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Cute. Completely twisting my words there.

So tell me cotss2012, why do you think Megatron became a truck?

cotss never said that the movies were hated by a "majority".

5150 - if all of the first movie actors have left, save for Tatum, and there's a new director who is just known for "Never say never" justin bieber --then I don't have high hopes. Couple this with the fact that a crew member already died on set when a lift collapsed - not lookin good. I love G.I. Joe too, so what a shame.

Star trek will be good if Abrams is steering the ship. Have higher hopes for it.

If contracts were in place for TF -then why weren't the movies made as a trilogy, stories linked?? Seems to me that the studio only greenlit TF2 after they saw the opening box office for TF1 - didn't have a trilogy in mind per se. It is what it is. Imho, the first film was the best overall, then DOTM, then ROTF. With that being said, just because a movie grosses obscene amounts of money doesn't mean its a great high quality movie. Star wars EP1 and 2 for example, are the worst of the 6 films, yet are #18 and #52 all time worldwide box office gross. Indiana Jones 4 - which was not up to par with the originals & some considered downright terrible is #35. Heck, last year's Alice in Wonderland wasn't very good and that's #9.

vectorA3 wrote: cotss never said that the movies were hated by a "majority". .

Actually he did. IN another thread, then tried to post up link from roten tomatoes, only prove that the majority of the general audience did in fact aprove of all three TF movies.

vectorA3 wrote:5150 - if all of the first movie actors have left, save for Tatum, and there's a new director who is just known for "Never say never" justin bieber --then I don't have high hopes. Couple this with the fact that a crew member already died on set when a lift collapsed - not lookin good. I love G.I. Joe too, so what a shame..

Ya, while i'll hold off final judgment intill i see something, this doesn't look good. Thing is i had such hi hpes for the first movie. And while it wasn't a bad movie, it just didn't feel like a G.I. Joe movie to me.

vectorA3 wrote:Star trek will be good if Abrams is steering the ship. Have higher hopes for it. ..

As do I. I think he did a great job with the first movie. NO matter what the Trekkies say.

vectorA3 wrote:If contracts were in place for TF -then why weren't the movies made as a trilogy, stories linked?? Seems to me that the studio only greenlit TF2 after they saw the opening box office for TF1 - didn't have a trilogy in mind per se. It is what it is. Imho, the first film was the best overall, then DOTM, then ROTF.

Well contracts are for less for the actors and those invloved in the movie to keep them obligated in the event the studio decides to green light a sequel of any kind. Your right. TF2 was only green lite as a result of TF1's succsess. BUt one of the reasons they were able to get things moving as quickly as they were was because many were already on board. BUt if the movie doesn't do well, then the actors and production teams part ways. Perfect example was the movie "Doom".
All the actors signed on to do a second, if the first did well enough to warrant a second movie. The movie was a completel and utter disaster, there fore a second movie was never even concidered.

vectorA3 wrote:With that being said, just because a movie grosses obscene amounts of money doesn't mean its a great high quality movie.
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Thing is were not aurgueing that point.
1.- The aurgument is that a movie doesn't make large profits like the TF movie have, and people not enjoy what they saw. People went to see the movies (multiple times) , passed the word on to there friends, they saw it and so forth.

2.- What is "good" is going to be completely subjective. While you may not like Alice in Wonderland, (I'm not much of a fan of it either) someone else might think its the greatest thing since sliced bread. BUt based on the box office results
it saeems that most approved of what they saw.

So... I hear Megatron turns into a truck in DotM?

I know. Off topic. guilty. (Quints chime in.)

Also guilty of watching all 3 movies multiple times --being the TF diehard I am. Even if you don't like the films that much, there's so much to see -u have to see it multiple times. I shouldn't have seen RoTF multiple times in retrospect. Once I buy DOTM, then I'll have all 3 on bluray. Even, if the movies were 50x worse, being the diehard that I am i'd still buy the dvd for the films really cheap < $5. I'm just too nice to you darn Cybertronians!

Burn wrote:Cute. Completely twisting my words there.

So tell me cotss2012, why do you think Megatron became a truck?

Because Bay had stopped caring at that point.

5150 Cruiser wrote:IN another thread, then tried to post up link from roten tomatoes, only prove that the majority of the general audience did in fact aprove of all three TF movies.

People who create accounts at RT are NOT, in any way, a cross-section of general moviegoing audiences. They are instead the hardest of the hardcore fans/haters. That's why I referred to the numbers for the CRITICS.

Rushie wrote:So... I hear Megatron turns into a truck in DotM?

Wait... Megatron was actually IN that movie? I thought they only made the toy...

cotss2012 wrote:

Burn wrote:So tell me cotss2012, why do you think Megatron became a truck?

Because Bay had stopped caring at that point.

If you're going to say something like "Because Bay had stopped caring at that point", then be prepared to cite your sources.

Or is this just your opinion again that we're meant to take as fact?

We all know the real reason -- so Hasbro could make and sell more toys. Shame Megatron's presence was so minimal in ROTF. They "b&^%$#d" him in movies 2 and 3. Terrible.

One thing that would make me and others happy would be a LC DOTM Megatron

Burn wrote:If you're going to say something like "Because Bay had stopped caring at that point", then be prepared to cite your sources.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaOWce9srEk

cotss2012 wrote:

Burn wrote:The movies made a lot of money at the box office; ergo, everyone who paid to see them (prior to actually seeing them) thought they were good (after actually seeing them); ergo, the movies have perfectly logical and well-thought-out storylines, have female characters who serve a purpose other than being the male star's love interest, don't suffer from extreme close-ups that make the robot characters difficult to distinguish from each other...

Please, for the love of Primus, can you make ANY kind of argument that these movies were good, other than "Michael Bay has a swimming pool full of hundred dollar bills"?

No other argument needs to be made. That money means a lot of people saw it and some saw it multiple times. I saw the first one and second one 3 times and DotM twice, and I HATE going to the theater. People don't do that for movies they don't like.