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Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Superwheeljack » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:04 am

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Okay, I have a question. Why do people hate him so much. I love the figure, but the wfc version......
I just want to see peoples opinions on why they like one over another.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:18 am

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He's small and hollow.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Superwheeljack » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:27 am

Motto: "The problem with loyalty to a cause is, that the cause will always betray you"
Weapon: Accelerator Rifle
My complaint with foc: yes he is small. Arms, especially on mine, are loose
My complaint with WFC: these pieces left on his back. Way too bulky. Face sculpt is weird.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Burn » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:37 am

I have nothing against him.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby RAcast » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:06 am

Motto: "Can't stop, so what! That's how I like it!"
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He's small and hollow and they're charging SO MUCH more for something of such obviously lower quality. The sculpt itself is good, but I would NEVER pay full retail for it.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:47 am

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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Valandar » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:12 am

Motto: "It doesn't matter if the glass is half full or half empty, only that you work to make it full."
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FOC Prime is NOT hated. Some hate him, yes, but I actually like him BETTER than WFC or War Within Titanium Prime.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby RAcast » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:36 am

Motto: "Can't stop, so what! That's how I like it!"
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Valandar wrote:FOC Prime is NOT hated. Some hate him, yes, but I actually like him BETTER than WFC or War Within Titanium Prime.

Agreed, I'd say overall opinion hovers somewhere in the middle on the whole. Like I said, great -looking- mold, but the quality is horrendous. The good offsets the bad such that it's just kinda...meh. >:oP
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:41 am

He's small and hollow, but even if it were larger and more solid, I think it would still be ugly. I just don't like the design.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby njb902 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:19 am

I don't hate him, I do not however like his shoulder articulation or his fiddly waist.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Flux Convoy » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:23 am

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I was under the impression that it was because Prime underwent a body change between games for no apparent reason. It was unnecessary and IMO a turn for the worse. I liked the body he had in WFC and the figure. I don't have FOC Optimus yet, I'm gonna pick up a bunch of the recent Takara deluxes at Botcon. I am looking forward to getting the figure and satisfying my own curiosity though.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:48 am

Motto: "Brilliant"
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I expected the cliché "small and hollow" complaint before I even opened this thread. :roll:

I like FoC Optimus. He's incredibly articulated (aside from some points in the shoulder) and I love his paint job. His transformation is fun and I can find all kinds of cool poses for him without even trying. Why some others have trouble bringing point to anything else aside the "cheap quality" is beyond me.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby RhA » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:00 am

Motto: "BRING ME DANGER!"
He's a good figure. Nice and simple and yes, fun to transform.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:54 am

PrymeStriker wrote: Why some others have trouble bringing point to anything else aside the "cheap quality" is beyond me.


Isn't cheap quality reason enough to hate it? I think it is. Aside from the fiction and marketing that support the line, it's product quality that separates Hasbro Transformers from all the crappy knock-off transforming toys. If all TFs were of the same quality as FOC Optimus and Jazz, I would not be a TF collector.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:40 am

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GuyIncognito wrote:Isn't cheap quality reason enough to hate it?


:lol:

In that case, let's just get a big ball of plastic and see if we can poke holes through it.

The way I see it, if you can find diamonds in the rough (i.e PRiD Vehicon), then you've clearly ignored plastic quality and found other aspects intriguing. Below, you mention Optimus and Jazz alone. Do you hate all FoC Deluxes? They're nearly all made of cheap plastic.

If all TFs were of the same quality as FOC Optimus and Jazz, I would not be a TF collector.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby mooncake623 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:15 am

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He's small but I like it. I have 3 versions of this mold that I brought at full retail. Hasbro OP (15.99), Hasbro UM (15.99), Takara UM (37). I don't feel like it's money wasted.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby ScottyP » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:55 am

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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Rodimus the Prime » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:48 am

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I don't hate the figure at all, I love it. It's really fun to transform and pose. And it looks fantastic with a bit of a paint wash on it and some new stickers.

But...yes, it's too small. As much as I enjoy the figure, I feel it would have been better to use the tooling dollars on a character we've not had, like FoC Perceptor, Warpath, or Ironhide. Optimus should be a Voyager. He should only ever be Voyager sized. That should be the rule with the big-cheese characters, like Op, Megs and Shock...Voyager only!
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Prime Riblet » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:06 pm

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I liked the WFC figure a LOT, and I think the FOC figure is a bit of a downgrade from the WFC design. I would think more highly of the FOC figure if I hadn't already thought so highly of the WFC design.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Superwheeljack » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:06 pm

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I think if someone fixed the head, and gave him new arms and legs, we could have a good Orion Pax
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby RAcast » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:20 pm

Motto: "Can't stop, so what! That's how I like it!"
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Superwheeljack wrote:I think if someone fixed the head, and gave him new arms and legs, we could have a good Orion Pax

But we have a GREAT Orion Pax coming up! :grin:
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Superwheeljack » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:00 pm

Motto: "The problem with loyalty to a cause is, that the cause will always betray you"
Weapon: Accelerator Rifle
The upcoming Orion pax doesn't look good. Megatron and bee too. Trail breaker looks cool
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:06 pm

Superwheeljack wrote:The upcoming Orion pax doesn't look good.


You crazy? It looks great. A lot better than a repaint of FOC OP would look.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby Blurrz » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:20 pm

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The figure could use some beef to it, but w/e, I'll just be content that Hasbro at least 'tried' with FoC toys.
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Re: Why does everyone hate foc Optimus prime?

Postby craggy » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:12 pm

I never like the redesign from the awesome WFC look in the first place. That the new one is about half the size was another reason to dislike it. It looks damn good as Ultra Magnus, but since he's so titchy my personal fanon has this as "mini" Magnum before he gets the "Apex Armour" that makes him Ultra.
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