Incorrect claim #1
Atary77 wrote:To me the films were proof that hasbro as well didn't care enough about the TF fan base either.
Incorrect claim #2 with clever response
Treetop Maximus wrote:Atary77 wrote:So let's see if they can learn anything from how we feel about these movies... not that they care.
Yeah, I hope they learn how much I loved this series.
Unfortunately for you, Atary, the claims I highlighted here invalidate your argument, especially the parts I put in bold and most especially the words I put in red. Treetop put it correctly.
The issue with these statements: You put every single Transformers "fan" in the same boat, which is the boat that dislikes the movies. You are assuming every "fan" who has seen these films is unsatisfied, basically pulling me onto a boat I don't want to be on, as I loved every (well, almost every) second of all three films, and bought tons of toys and love (nearly) all of them. Do you believe everyone dislikes these movies? Where's the boat I'm supposed to be on? Did it sink? Did I imagine it?
One of the biggest problems the TF fanbase has is that it's so common for someone to say "we", "us", or "the fans" to invalidate the opinions of those who don't share their opinion on a certain subject, and assume everyone thinks the same way as they do. I just hate it when someone says "Hasbro/Michael Bay doesn't care about the fans because they/he gave us movies we don't like". Also, one of these days you're going to realize that Hasbro doesn't serve "us": They do what they think is going to sell toys and keep Transformers alive. Yes, people, like yourself, dislike the films. Not everyone. Not everyone that calls themselves a Transformers fan. So, realistically, Hasbro can't serve "us". If they could, they'd have to have so many interpretations of everything so they could satisfy every individual. The world just doesn't work that way.
Unfortunately for you, the movies happened to accomplish more than Hasbro intended in the stae they were presented, and since there is a high demand for their toys and a majority satisfaction of the films, they aren't going to drop what they're doing, try to change what already happened, and listen to the rather unfortunate minority. Money talks, so who are they going to listen to? To avoid taking your quotes out of context, yes you did mention Hasbro is out to make money. But you never mentioned that they're out to please the majority. If the majority's happy, Hasbro's happy, and they claim success.
So, if Hasbro can learn anything from how
I (not "we") feel about these movies, I want them to learn how much I love them and how much I want to see another movie like the other three in two years.
At the same time,
I want them to learn from what
you disliked about them, and how they can improve upon that, which may even make them richer.