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Re: Why I HATE iGear

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:28 pm

iGear is a real mixed bag.

A lot of their early stuff was less than great and others were just decent. Their Seekers were alright, but they can't get too much credit for that. The MP Seeker mold is pretty good in and of itself. The second run of Faith Leader seems good, but that first run was flawed as Hell. And what was with the cape they made for MP Prime? And those new heads that stopped him from transforming?

I liked the Autoscout, but their MP Grimlock crown was shit (and came with useless accessories). Their hammer was alright, but the head was crummy, the flag unnessasary, and the gun was too tight and didn't really even go into the fist well since they didn't account for the angled forearms.

The Kup heads are golden and I understand their Ratchet and Ironhide psudo-MPs are their first 100% flaw-free success story.

The Minibots line is itself a mixed bag when it would have been so easy to make it phenomenal and a smash hit for all fans. Inconsistant sizes, lazy upsizing, and an ever-increasing price point have killed my enthusiasm.

The customer service is terrible. It's bad that you need to order from another just to feel safe. And the wait time ... it wouldn't be so bad if:
A) They didn't secure pre-orders when they ARE NOT close to production and
B) If they didn't tease their prototypes when it's clear they haven't really clamped down on whether they'll make them or not (or "pulling a Headrobots" - Trailbraker and Dark Scorpinok I am lookin' at you).

And yet, for all of that ... they are STILL making things I want. Despite reservations they are STILL making a Beacomber and Gears that I'm willing to buy (granted, from BBTS). Maybe that Sharkicon set will finally see the light of day too.

So, hate? I don't think they deserve hate. But I also don't think they'll ever be in the upper echelon of third party companies. I don't think anyone will ever expect more than a C+ Transformer from these guys.
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Re: Why I HATE iGear

Postby Banjo-Tron » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:16 am

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:(Awesome Explaination)


Nail on the head. Maybe 'hate' is a strong word but my mind is hardly the most rational at the best of times. And I have also thought of another reason I don't like them.

Every figure they 'homage' makes it less likely that someone awesome will do so themselves.
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Re: Why I HATE iGear

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:54 am

I'm not so sure about that. It seems like it makes it even more likely, if you look at the overall pattern for 3rd party products. I don't think I have to go through a list of duplicated characters. Another new 3rd party company posted their take on Gears (as a 3d render), so you never know.
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Re: Why I HATE iGear

Postby leakin' lubricant » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:07 am

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Banjo-Tron wrote:I thought I would write this down because I seem to have a pathalogical dislike of this company that I can't quite put my finger on. I am an avid collector of 3Rd party TFs - some companies output doesn't really do it for me (like TFC toys for some reason) but I can acknowledge what they are decent anyway. But I HATE iGear. Feel free to berate me/ignore this or anything else but this is why I dislike them quite so much.

It starts with the name. iGear. A terrible, derivative name which grabs onto Apple's coat tails and somehow seeks to be associated with the qualitative, innovative output of that company. It's fitting that a company with a penchant for ripping things off would go down this road. Contrast this with FansProject, which at least evokes that we're all in this together, even if it isn't true.

Then there is their penchant for KOing and downsizing HasTak moulds. Why be original when you can let someone else do the hard work for you, then simply modify certain parts as per the original design spec like the seekers? It looks like their Impactor (if it ever sees the light of day) is heavily knocked off (or should I say 'inspired' (to use the parlance of iGear apologists) from Generations Warpath. And the daft names they give these chimeras like 'Faith Leader'. Do me a favour. Can they be any more pretentious about creating their knockoffs? Some KOs have a certain charm, like the ones with mad colour schemes and generic names like 'flying attack robot drone atom smasher', perhaps with some mis-spelling somewhere. I have more respect for these guys than the hacks at iGear. And their end product is probably higher quality.

Everything they release seems to come out a year later than planned, if at all.

They made the incredibly cheap move of upscaling all of their decentish scout sized Minibot modes to rake an a bit more cash for their tat. Actually, not all of them, they neglected to do the same for Huffer and Seaspray meaning that everyone who has already purchased these will have to purchase them again when iGear inevitably upsacle and re-release these 2 as 'limited edition' for $100

Their Packaging and all other print materials are the absolute worst of any of the 'main players'. It is crap and 'basic' is probably too kind a description.

The quality of plastic used on them is also terrible when compared with FansProject, TFC, Maketoys, Perfect Effect etc. Yet they still charge the same premium as the other guys who deserve it so much more.

They did NOT make Delicate warrior. Everyone pretty much likes this figure, and most call it 'iGear Arcee'. It has nothing to do with iGear. They were one of many distributors who carried the toy. If iGear had designed this figure, the quality of the plastic would be even worse and the box would have been an old shoebox with a hastily-scribbled iGear logo adorned to it. Credit where it is due, and in this case it is M&G Toys (although they pretty much ripped it off of Impossible Toys :))


Hmmm find it interesting that a lot of the complaints you raise are easily transferable to Hasbro/Takara.

For example Hasbro/Takara ripped off Microman and Diaclone designs for there original line, not to mention they continually churn out repeat moulds with minor differences, how many seeker or bumblebee moulds have we had now? Also Hasbro have recently up scaled FoC Soundwave and slapped a higher pricetag on him. Some of Hasbro/Takaras plastics are somewhat questionable, recent FoC lines have come into question recently.

So really if you hate I Gear then surely you must hold some dislike fo Hasbro/Takara?
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Re: Why I HATE iGear

Postby Banjo-Tron » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:29 am

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leakin' lubricant wrote:For example Hasbro/Takara ripped off Microman and Diaclone designs for there original line

No they did not, they licensed existing toylines, so how does that constitute a ripoff?
leakin' lubricant wrote:not to mention they continually churn out repeat moulds with minor differences, how many seeker or bumblebee moulds have we had now?

That's completely irrelevant, they are their moulds in the first place. Thay're not stealing or 'reverse engineering' a mould which is not theirs.
leakin' lubricant wrote:Also Hasbro have recently up scaled FoC Soundwave and slapped a higher pricetag on him.

There may be glaring similarities but it is not a simple upscaled mould. It is based on the same character model and has a 'cassette' compartment as the main difference, along with different detailing and I'd imagine proportions etc
leakin' lubricant wrote:Some of Hasbro/Takaras plastics are somewhat questionable, recent FoC lines have come into question recently.

Indeed, some of the FOC stuff is almost as bad as iGear's mini warriors line, but not quite.
leakin' lubricant wrote:So really if you hate I Gear then surely you must hold some dislike fo Hasbro/Takara?

I'm ambivalent towards them actually, since there is nothing they are currently producing that interests me. When they produce figures like United Tracks, I absolutely love them. When they concentrate on Prime/FOC, I'm not interested.
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Re: Why I HATE iGear

Postby leakin' lubricant » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:13 pm

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Thought I would revive this thread after receiving my first I Gear figure, UFO arrived in his nice shiny box this morning, I must say after reading some of the negative comments on here I was a little apprehensive. I knew from the packaging I was in for a pleasant surprise, nice box with an inventive bio on the back, opening the box I was greeted with more awesomeness, all the plastics and joints appeared to be of good quality (easily in line with any Hasbro products and in some cases better than some of my Takara products) even the stand which some reviews stated was of poor quality and broke easily stood up to several poses. The figure has a simple intuitive transformation and scales well with the rest of my Classics line. My only complaint (and it's a minor one) is that the green is a little too light, but as I have argued before, Hasbro have been guilty of some dodgy colour schemes in the past (Classics Megatron, Universe Cyclonus, etc) Overall I give him a solid 9 out of 10, loosing a mark for the colour scheme. :BOT:
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Re: Why I HATE iGear

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:29 am

UFO ain't bad. He just has some oddly large ball joints, but his main flaw for me is that he isn't sized to match Rager or Spray. A problem with their whole line.

Their Brawn was disappointing, though. He does the job and I don't think I'll need another Brawn, but there's so many ways he could be better.
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