PrymeStriker wrote:RAcast wrote:Like the guy said, it doesn't really
work as a deluxe.

At least not as well as it could.
Well, what makes a Triple Changer
work for you guys?
A voyager has a bigger budget, therefore it can have more plastic, more hinges, etc. in order to make the transformation, articulation, and overall final product better.
Specifically about Classics Astrotrain and Ocatane; let me preface it with this. They are by NO means bad. Far from it, they did a great job of updating the characters. However, being deluxe scale meant technical limitations. Octane has a bit of a funky robot mode, especially with the arms, and his plane mode has awkward proportions (tiiiiny wings for such a big plane!). I really like the rest of his robot mode and his truck mode though. Astrotrain's shuttle mode is solid, but the train is really gappy. The robot mode looks good for the most part, but he ends up with a nasty case of forearm kibble.
Yeah, these are fairly minor gripes, but my point is this: If they had been voyagers instead of deluxes, those issues probably wouldn't be there. Octane's arms would be better and he'd probably have a wider wingspan somehow. Astrotrain would likely have some hinging dedicated to better integrating that kibble and folding it away and there could be some small hinged or sliding panels to fill the gaps in the train, just as an example.