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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:04 am

Sabrblade wrote:
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_Anshin_ wrote:That and Bumblebee. I can not stand how this character is everywhere and is in almost every universe.
And yet, there was a point where we had no Bumblebee whatsoever for about 10 years (1996-2006). :roll:

Hence the words Almost. Then again I still read the comics between 96-2006, so my despise is still there, but I guess I should have kept it to just the cartoons. Sorry... still you can not help but to despise him.
Except that each Bumblebee is different.

You got:
  • The typical bland young guy from G1.
  • The mute, irritating dude from the Movies
  • The cold-hearted drifter/Seeker Commander from Shattered Glass
  • The young, lively, energetic, full-of-life, ball of energy from Animated
  • And the "Johnny Young Bosch"-turned-"silent killer" from WFC/Exodus/Prime.


You forgot the Promoted to leader in IDW, and the whiny, trying to prove himself version in Marvel-UK.

However they all share the same (except for SG) basic Bumblebee persona, the same way Prime shares his personas with the other Primes (even primal).
Bumblebee = Humans in transformers.

Every human is different (Spike is not the same as Sam who is not the same as Carlos). Yet they are all equally annoying and droll as a character. With the exception of SG, they are all suppose to be inspiration markers and relational points so that the youths of today have a character they can relate to. Time changes all the characters but not their intended purpose and basic purpose for story development and demographic relational points.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:09 am

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_Anshin_ wrote:Every human is different (Spike is not the same as Sam who is not the same as Carlos). Yet they are all equally annoying and droll as a character.
And my Masterforce argument still holds up since every human in that series was epic. Almost god-like in power, even.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:13 am

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_Anshin_ wrote:Every human is different (Spike is not the same as Sam who is not the same as Carlos). Yet they are all equally annoying and droll as a character.
And my Masterforce argument still holds up since every human in that series was epic. Almost god-like in power, even.

I guess it still holds up similar to the way an vertical ejection seat works on a helicopter. Sure your out, but are you in any better shape? #-o

All joking aside, this is just my opinion versus yours. I respect it and can see why you would like some of the characters I despise.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:21 am

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_Anshin_ wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
_Anshin_ wrote:Every human is different (Spike is not the same as Sam who is not the same as Carlos). Yet they are all equally annoying and droll as a character.
And my Masterforce argument still holds up since every human in that series was epic. Almost god-like in power, even.

I guess it still holds up similar to the way an vertical ejection seat works on a helicopter. Sure your out, but are you in any better shape? #-o

All joking aside, this is just my opinion versus yours. I respect it and can see why you would like some of the characters I despise.
Unless you've actually seen Masterforce, you can't comment without having experienced it.

The humans were the Autobots and Deceptcions of that series (that's right, Decepticon humans!), and each one of them was made a better character than the entire G1 cartoon cast combined.

Why, that whole series was so good that I rank it almost as high as Beast Wars, Animated, and Beast Machines (higher than BM, actually) in terms of quality, effort, and sheer competence. 8)
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:23 am

Sabrblade wrote:
_Anshin_ wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
_Anshin_ wrote:Every human is different (Spike is not the same as Sam who is not the same as Carlos). Yet they are all equally annoying and droll as a character.
And my Masterforce argument still holds up since every human in that series was epic. Almost god-like in power, even.

I guess it still holds up similar to the way an vertical ejection seat works on a helicopter. Sure your out, but are you in any better shape? #-o

All joking aside, this is just my opinion versus yours. I respect it and can see why you would like some of the characters I despise.
Unless you've actually seen Masterforce, you can't comment without having experienced it.

The humans were the Autobots and Deceptcions of that series (that's right, Decepticon humans!), and each one of them was made a better character than the entire G1 cartoon cast combined.

Why, that whole series was so good that I rank it almost as high as Beast Wars, Animated, and Beast Machines (higher than BM, actually) in terms of quality, effort, and sheer competence. 8)


Then I am safe to comment as I still have them recorded on VHS straight from the Japanese Airways :P
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:46 am

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_Anshin_ wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
_Anshin_ wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
_Anshin_ wrote:Every human is different (Spike is not the same as Sam who is not the same as Carlos). Yet they are all equally annoying and droll as a character.
And my Masterforce argument still holds up since every human in that series was epic. Almost god-like in power, even.

I guess it still holds up similar to the way an vertical ejection seat works on a helicopter. Sure your out, but are you in any better shape? #-o

All joking aside, this is just my opinion versus yours. I respect it and can see why you would like some of the characters I despise.
Unless you've actually seen Masterforce, you can't comment without having experienced it.

The humans were the Autobots and Deceptcions of that series (that's right, Decepticon humans!), and each one of them was made a better character than the entire G1 cartoon cast combined.

Why, that whole series was so good that I rank it almost as high as Beast Wars, Animated, and Beast Machines (higher than BM, actually) in terms of quality, effort, and sheer competence. 8)


Then I am safe to comment as I still have them recorded on VHS straight from the Japanese Airways :P
Awful English dub or superior Japanese sub?
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:48 am

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_Anshin_ wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
_Anshin_ wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
_Anshin_ wrote:Every human is different (Spike is not the same as Sam who is not the same as Carlos). Yet they are all equally annoying and droll as a character.
And my Masterforce argument still holds up since every human in that series was epic. Almost god-like in power, even.

I guess it still holds up similar to the way an vertical ejection seat works on a helicopter. Sure your out, but are you in any better shape? #-o

All joking aside, this is just my opinion versus yours. I respect it and can see why you would like some of the characters I despise.
Unless you've actually seen Masterforce, you can't comment without having experienced it.

The humans were the Autobots and Deceptcions of that series (that's right, Decepticon humans!), and each one of them was made a better character than the entire G1 cartoon cast combined.

Why, that whole series was so good that I rank it almost as high as Beast Wars, Animated, and Beast Machines (higher than BM, actually) in terms of quality, effort, and sheer competence. 8)


Then I am safe to comment as I still have them recorded on VHS straight from the Japanese Airways :P
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:26 am

To be brutally honest I had to get the dubbed version because I don't understand the Japanese versions (Never learned Japanese). A close friend of mine was deployed out there and picked up both sets for me. I can understand some of it, but a majority of it I couldn't understand. There were no subtitles on the VHS and I have yet to find the Japanese versions on dvd/blu-ray that have subtitles or fan sub sites.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:36 am

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_Anshin_ wrote:To be brutally honest I had to get the dubbed version because I don't understand the Japanese versions (Never learned Japanese).
The English dub of Masterforce = :SICK: :SICK: :SICK:

It was an absolute FAIL! It's not even worth watching as it's just so PATHETIC! Fandubs are better than that atrocity!

_Anshin_ wrote:A close friend of mine was deployed out there and picked up both sets for me. I can understand some of it, but a majority of it I couldn't understand. There were no subtitles on the VHS and I have yet to find the Japanese versions on dvd/blu-ray that have subtitles or fan sub sites.
All the episodes in Japanese w/ English subtitles can be downloaded easily from TV-Nihon. They subtitled every episode and in about as good as (or better than) the quality of the official DVD subs. They also subbed The Headmasters, Victory, RobotMasters, Super Link, Galaxy Force, and the first few episodes of Car Robots. And the Japanese openings/endings/promos of Animated. They are the fansub group to go to when it comes to the Transformers anime. All you have to do is ask where to find them.

Also, aside from the Bay movies, Blu-Ray = nonexistent for any TF series.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:53 am

Yeah, I know getting any anime unless its like Ex Machina in blu-ray is pretty much not worth it, however I always look to try to get better quality than what the VHS offers.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby munkimus prime » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:50 pm

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I can't think of a more whiny little **** than Jun from Transformers Victory. He didn't accomplish anything, not even as a character. He didn't give anything for the story either. Why did Star Sabre save him anyway, Well he was a baby back then and even Star Sabre couldn't see what an obnoxious ass he was going to grow up into.

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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:12 pm

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Worst Transformer - BW Scorponok. Really, did the guy ever do anything useful? He was just the loyalist suck-up until Inferno came along.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:19 pm

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_Anshin_ wrote:A close friend of mine was deployed out there and picked up both sets for me. I can understand some of it, but a majority of it I couldn't understand. There were no subtitles on the VHS and I have yet to find the Japanese versions on dvd/blu-ray that have subtitles or fan sub sites.
All the episodes in Japanese w/ English subtitles can be downloaded easily from TV-Nihon. They subtitled every episode and in about as good as (or better than) the quality of the official DVD subs. They also subbed The Headmasters, Victory, RobotMasters, Super Link, Galaxy Force, and the first few episodes of Car Robots. And the Japanese openings/endings/promos of Animated. They are the fansub group to go to when it comes to the Transformers anime. All you have to do is ask where to find them.

Also, aside from the Bay movies, Blu-Ray = nonexistent for any TF series.

BTW, Thanks for the link. When I have some time and bandwith I will will start my digital collection correctly.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby SwerveGears » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:14 pm

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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Autobot-Hellstriker » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:19 pm

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now that i remember this series... im also nominating JetStorm, Nightscream, Botanica and Rhinox from the Beast Machines era(Rhinox for becoming evil)
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:41 pm

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Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:now that i remember this series... im also nominating JetStorm,
He had an upbeat personality, a twisted sense of humor, an ego that screamed "high ranked villain" and bit of a psychotic streak when he got serious.

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Nightscream,
Arguably the Maximal's most lethal ally, with his sonic projections fired from his back coupled with his energy-draining fangs launched from his mouth.

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Botanica
Who played the biggest role in the Maximal's victory over Megatron, being more vital to their task than almost enyone else (except maybe for Optimus). Not to mention... :WHISTLE:
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Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Rhinox from the Beast Machines era(Rhinox for becoming evil)
He wasn't in his right mind. Besides, he became VERY dangerous and a competent foe in the long run. And his post-BM life is greatly interesting considering how he gains redemption in different ways:
  • Universe comics - he's resurrected by Optimus Primal and atones for his sins by killing the alternate universe Tankor
  • IDW Sourcebook - he's resurrected by the Vok as a Transmetal and travels the Multiverse fighting off the Chaos of Unicron out of guilt for his action as Tankor (this implies that he may or may not now be the same guy as Armada Rhinox in this version of the story :roll: )
  • Legends anthology - inside the Allspark, he acts as a sort of spirit guide for Megatron's disembodied spark to help guide him into the afterlife, as means to grant Megatron his own redemption... but Megatron ultimately decides to ignore Rhinox and erases him from the Allspark, killing him. Poo. #-o
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby harokin » Sun May 01, 2011 5:24 pm

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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby MasterSoundBlaster » Tue May 03, 2011 11:43 pm

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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Autobot-Hellstriker » Wed May 04, 2011 9:08 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:now that i remember this series... im also nominating JetStorm,
He had an upbeat personality, a twisted sense of humor, an ego that screamed "high ranked villain" and bit of a psychotic streak when he got serious.

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Nightscream,
Arguably the Maximal's most lethal ally, with his sonic projections fired from his back coupled with his energy-draining fangs launched from his mouth.

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Botanica
Who played the biggest role in the Maximal's victory over Megatron, being more vital to their task than almost enyone else (except maybe for Optimus). Not to mention... :WHISTLE:
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Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Rhinox from the Beast Machines era(Rhinox for becoming evil)
He wasn't in his right mind. Besides, he became VERY dangerous and a competent foe in the long run. And his post-BM life is greatly interesting considering how he gains redemption in different ways:
  • Universe comics - he's resurrected by Optimus Primal and atones for his sins by killing the alternate universe Tankor
  • IDW Sourcebook - he's resurrected by the Vok as a Transmetal and travels the Multiverse fighting off the Chaos of Unicron out of guilt for his action as Tankor (this implies that he may or may not now be the same guy as Armada Rhinox in this version of the story :roll: )
  • Legends anthology - inside the Allspark, he acts as a sort of spirit guide for Megatron's disembodied spark to help guide him into the afterlife, as means to grant Megatron his own redemption... but Megatron ultimately decides to ignore Rhinox and erases him from the Allspark, killing him. Poo. #-o


Im complaining about the personalities and i just never liked rhinox for being evil even if he gains redemption later.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby SundayForever » Mon May 09, 2011 1:22 am

Energon Ironhide. I'd probably like his Japanese incarnation as unlike him at last three was actual characterization done...and appropriate lines. That stuff with Demolishor before he joined Megatron annoyed me as I knew h was reacting to him when they had him yell something akin to "Get inside the ship" as the others pulled him in by force...yeaaaah.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Stormwolf » Wed May 11, 2011 2:50 am

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I'd vote Grimlock, he could have been awesome like in the comic, instead we got the Transformer version of Corky.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Zombie Starscream » Sun May 15, 2011 7:47 am

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Worst cartoon character for me is currently Prime!Starscream. Not really in his characterization, but mainly how his face looks.

It just looks so ugly and not the way I think a Starscream should look. Animated!Starscream's face and features looked evil though he was still handsome, but this guy just doesn't look right.
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 15, 2011 10:02 am

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Zombie Starscream wrote:Worst cartoon character for me is currently Prime!Starscream. Not really in his characterization, but mainly how his face looks.

It just looks so ugly and not the way I think a Starscream should look. Animated!Starscream's face and features looked evil though he was still handsome, but this guy just doesn't look right.
So... you judge a character by their looks rather than who they are and what they're like personality-wise? :???:

No offense, but that's kind of a little... shallow. :-|
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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby Predaprince » Sun May 15, 2011 12:58 pm

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Re: worst transformers cartoon character ever.

Postby RhA » Sun May 15, 2011 12:59 pm

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #106 - McCarthyism
Twincast / Podcast #106:
"McCarthyism"
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Posted: Thursday, December 4th, 2014