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Re: Would You Be Willing To Pay More For a 3rd Party Quality Figure From Hasbro?

Postby xyl360 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:29 pm

The MP line is essentially the best of the best (even better than the third party figures) in my opinion, and I'm talking Takara's MP line, NOT Hasbro's.

What Takara have been doing since MP-10 is just amazing. They're making these figures perfect down to the slightest details in both modes with fully accurate colors, generous paint apps and transformations as simple or as complex as required to get perfect results in both modes. I've yet to see a single third party do that with any figure, and I own several.

Third parties are doing a decent job of filling holes, but if Takara ever decides to take on doing MP combiners, I expect the days of third party success will be numbered because right now, Takara is making better transforming toys that do a heck of a lot more than just homage G1 characters, they ARE the G1 characters. When I look up at my shelf and see MP-10 standing there I don't think to myself "There's one of my Optimus Primes", I think "There IS Optimus Prime!" None of the other lines, be they from Hasbro, Takara or toys from third parties make me feel that way (though Hegemon is pretty close, I'll admit ;)).
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Re: Would You Be Willing To Pay More For a 3rd Party Quality Figure From Hasbro?

Postby paul053 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:21 am

Of course YES if Hasbro can make one like that, AND if we can ever find it in retail stores and even in our respect country region. Talking about Transformers, Hasbro is still the go to guy and I'm still loyal to them (I don't even give that much loyalty to Takara). But! But, wasn't Hasbro plan on giving us Generations Frenzy and Rumble? Seeing one of them in packaging and I want them badly and where are they now? I don't want to get 3rd party stuffs for these two guys and I was actually extremely lucky to get the only-if-I-have-no-choice-from-Hasbro-then-I-choose-Takara United Frenzy/Rumble in a reasonable price. Then ignoring all the recent Prime line chaos that we all know what happened. Springer is the same thing. I've been waiting the rightful one for long (meaning rightful, I mean not just the head). Hasbro did have toys for him but none of them are right. I don't even like the Tomahawk mold. I've been waiting long enough and really had to choose FP Defender. And I'm very happy with this FP Defender with an Autobot sticker on his chest.
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Re: Would You Be Willing To Pay More For a 3rd Party Quality Figure From Hasbro?

Postby NTESHFT » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:12 am

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xyl360 wrote:The MP line is essentially the best of the best (even better than the third party figures) in my opinion, and I'm talking Takara's MP line, NOT Hasbro's.

What Takara have been doing since MP-10 is just amazing. They're making these figures perfect down to the slightest details in both modes with fully accurate colors, generous paint apps and transformations as simple or as complex as required to get perfect results in both modes. I've yet to see a single third party do that with any figure, and I own several.

Third parties are doing a decent job of filling holes, but if Takara ever decides to take on doing MP combiners, I expect the days of third party success will be numbered because right now, Takara is making better transforming toys that do a heck of a lot more than just homage G1 characters, they ARE the G1 characters. When I look up at my shelf and see MP-10 standing there I don't think to myself "There's one of my Optimus Primes", I think "There IS Optimus Prime!" None of the other lines, be they from Hasbro, Takara or toys from third parties make me feel that way (though Hegemon is pretty close, I'll admit ;)).



I gotta agree with this. And it's weird for me considering right before the outbreak of Takara's new MP line-up they have going on, I was becoming more of a "third-party" fan. But then Takara busted out with this MP awesomeness and put faith back in me. Looks to me as thought they decided to fight fire with fire. And if they do indeed take on the more complicated combiners and triple changers (or even, high hopes here, a Six Shot), then the game changes dastrically.Hasbro, in my opinion, will just be Hasbro, catering to the rising number of kids growing up in the good ol' U.S. of A. and every once in the while throwing a bone to us adult collectors. As far as the "other guys"- I'm still leaning on them to produce what Hasbro doesn't. I'm sure they will deliver before Hasbro does.
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Re: Would You Be Willing To Pay More For a 3rd Party Quality Figure From Hasbro?

Postby xyl360 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:02 pm

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xyl360 wrote:The MP line is essentially the best of the best (even better than the third party figures) in my opinion, and I'm talking Takara's MP line, NOT Hasbro's.

What Takara have been doing since MP-10 is just amazing. They're making these figures perfect down to the slightest details in both modes with fully accurate colors, generous paint apps and transformations as simple or as complex as required to get perfect results in both modes. I've yet to see a single third party do that with any figure, and I own several.

Third parties are doing a decent job of filling holes, but if Takara ever decides to take on doing MP combiners, I expect the days of third party success will be numbered because right now, Takara is making better transforming toys that do a heck of a lot more than just homage G1 characters, they ARE the G1 characters. When I look up at my shelf and see MP-10 standing there I don't think to myself "There's one of my Optimus Primes", I think "There IS Optimus Prime!" None of the other lines, be they from Hasbro, Takara or toys from third parties make me feel that way (though Hegemon is pretty close, I'll admit ;)).



I gotta agree with this. And it's weird for me considering right before the outbreak of Takara's new MP line-up they have going on, I was becoming more of a "third-party" fan. But then Takara busted out with this MP awesomeness and put faith back in me. Looks to me as thought they decided to fight fire with fire. And if they do indeed take on the more complicated combiners and triple changers (or even, high hopes here, a Six Shot), then the game changes dastrically.Hasbro, in my opinion, will just be Hasbro, catering to the rising number of kids growing up in the good ol' U.S. of A. and every once in the while throwing a bone to us adult collectors. As far as the "other guys"- I'm still leaning on them to produce what Hasbro doesn't. I'm sure they will deliver before Hasbro does.

Yep, same here. I had been buying more and more third party stuff, then the new MP's started coming out (starting with MP-10) and I saw what Takara were up to. Soundwave, his cassettes, Sideswipe and Red Alert all look perfect. Takara is definitely killing it right now with regards to giving us what we G1 fans really want: truly accurate representations of the characters we fell in love with on the screen as kids.

It's not like Classics etc. which gives us (sometimes) more accurate looks, adding in modern alt modes and improved articulation. It's a line dedicated to "getting it right", and by right, I mean frickin' perfect. I honestly never thought I'd see the day when we'd get Transformers this good, especially not from Hasbro or Takara. Heck, I didn't even think that what they did with MP-10 was possible at all. I always thought there was some room for improvement on the MP-01 mold, but the drastic improvements they made on the design for an MP Prime were staggering.

I hope you're right and we do see some MP triple changers (and yes, even Sixshot), but I guess only time will tell. I won't say it's impossible after what I've seen them do lately. Even the cassettes look perfect, and that's tought to do on that scale.
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Re: Would You Be Willing To Pay More For a 3rd Party Quality Figure From Hasbro?

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Re: Would You Be Willing To Pay More For a 3rd Party Quality Figure From Hasbro?

Postby craggy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:07 am

I'm never all that concerned about the copyrighted logo on the box. I want good plastic representations of the characters I grew up reading about and watching on TV*. If they're from Hasbro, I'm fine with that. Better if a larger company makes things and they're more widely available and at a lower cost. Have passed on 3rd Party stuff before that's just been out of the price range for what I'd pay, just as I've passed on cheap official Transformers because they've not been what I've wanted.

Of course, this doesn't mean I'm against new characters. I like variety and shows like Beast Wars and Prime have given us some quite enjoyable new bots, as well as good takes on older ones. Prime Soundwave isn't really "my Soundwave" but he's nice and creepy as a bad guy.
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