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X-Men First Class

Postby Blurrz » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:35 pm

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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Burn » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:20 pm

Wasn't overly impressed, in fact I left feeling disappointed.

The only high point for me was Hugh Jackman's brief appearance.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Starscream GaGa » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:35 am

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I actually loved it. The plot line was great, dialogue was comic-bookesque without being cheesy, character relationships were well-done and didn't feel tacked on and rushed and the casting was very good (except Moria McTaggart). It was really well-paced, too and was fun and interesting from beginning to end.
I feel that it was on par, maybe even a little better then X2.

And also it has the highlight of pretty much ruining X-Men 3's compatibility with the other movies; The first scene of X-Men 3 can now no longer have occurred. My mind has now happily retconned X-Men 3 out of existence :).
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Aluus » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:20 pm

More importantly, the scene with Xavier near the end of Wolverine origins could not have occurred following your logic, so THAT abomination of a movie is retconned out of existance as well
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:03 pm

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Burn wrote:The only high point for me was Hugh Jackman's brief appearance.


I love that scene!!

But as far as a "prequel" I don't know.. It kind of kills some of the things that have been established as well as screwing the "Wolverine origins" movie..

No one seems to know if this is a prequel, reboot or some kind of re-imagining using some of the elements from the other movies (ravens look, etc..)

It was James Bondish and fun though.

*edit*
It actually seems like a reboot to me..
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Starscream GaGa » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:12 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:
Burn wrote:The only high point for me was Hugh Jackman's brief appearance.


I love that scene!!

But as far as a "prequel" I don't know.. It kind of kills some of the things that have been established as well as screwing the "Wolverine origins" movie..

No one seems to know if this is a prequel, reboot or some kind of re-imagining using some of the elements from the other movies (ravens look, etc..)

It was James Bondish and fun though.

*edit*
It actually seems like a reboot to me..


I think, considering it had the exact same first scenes as the first movie, it can be considered a prequel to at least X-Men and X2.

I think its possible that the writers acknowledged the first two movies as the movies that are generally loved, while Wolverine and X-Men 3 are both generally disliked and (in X-Men 3s case) widely regarded as having suffered from dodgy writing and decided to roll with it. There are no inconsistencies between this and the first two movies.

Wolverine and X-Men 3 however just are 100% incompatible. Emma Frost is completely different in First Class, Xavier and Magneto's situation makes the starting of X-Men 3 impossible, Xavier's cameo in Wolverine could not have happened, Scott Summers was seen during the Cerebro search at an age that cannot work with his age in Wolverine Origins, etc.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby The Happy Locust » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:17 pm

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Starscream GaGa wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Burn wrote:The only high point for me was Hugh Jackman's brief appearance.


I love that scene!!

But as far as a "prequel" I don't know.. It kind of kills some of the things that have been established as well as screwing the "Wolverine origins" movie..

No one seems to know if this is a prequel, reboot or some kind of re-imagining using some of the elements from the other movies (ravens look, etc..)

It was James Bondish and fun though.

*edit*
It actually seems like a reboot to me..


I think, considering it had the exact same first scenes as the first movie, it can be considered a prequel to at least X-Men and X2.

I think its possible that the writers acknowledged the first two movies as the movies that are generally loved, while Wolverine and X-Men 3 are both generally disliked and (in X-Men 3s case) widely regarded as having suffered from dodgy writing and decided to roll with it. There are no inconsistencies between this and the first two movies.

Wolverine and X-Men 3 however just are 100% incompatible. Emma Frost is completely different in First Class, Xavier and Magneto's situation makes the starting of X-Men 3 impossible, Xavier's cameo in Wolverine could not have happened, Scott Summers was seen during the Cerebro search at an age that cannot work with his age in Wolverine Origins, etc.


At this point, Wolverine's movie really has to just be written off as far as continuity goes. Caught Scott's appearance, but wouldn't that make Havok in his late 40's or 50's by the present day?

Just got back from seeing First class. Wasn't even planning on it but I got to the theater too late for the showing of Pirates 4 (hold your comments, please) so picked the next movie playing. Surprisingly good, though I had to do research to figure out who Azazel and Riptide were. Definitely got Deja vu from a lot of scenes but generally it was suitably epic for a movie with this much happening. For as long as it was, thought it was well paced and presented.

Heard promos about it being as good as the Dark knight. Not even close! But still pretty damn good.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Just Negare » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:54 am

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Yip, defintely liked it better than X1, X3 and WO. I found it better than I expected it to be, and I felt the pacing was decent, although there were moments where it felt rushed, and I wished the end battles were longer.

As much as people might not like this, I think they could have hashed this plot out over two movies.

Magneto was cool, though - even if I did think the part in the camp was a bit far fetched and didn't seem so realistic that he could trash an entire room of metal and not find a way to kill Kevin Bacon - but at least we have another movie for the 6 degrees game
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby amcgrath929 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:18 pm

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It actually seems like a reboot to me..


This.

X-3 and the Wolverine: Origins movies were horrible. I'm guessing that's why the new Wolverine: Origines movie being filmed isnt even a continuation of the last.

I think First Class was exceptional. The characters stayed true to the originals for the most part, Magneto was excellent, and I thought the nods to Wolverine and Mystique were very cool. The action wasn't over the top and very believable and they managed to tell a decent story.

Only fail I can think of was Angel.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby The Happy Locust » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:07 pm

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amcgrath929 wrote:Only fail I can think of was Angel.

All things considered, would you have preferred her as a mom with a bird boyfriend and six feathered fly babies?
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