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NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:3) it looks better than a lot of other movies did at this stage (FF *cough*, ghost rider *cough*)

Yeah, the special effects for Ghostrider look pretty bad.

Something positive about the Transforming robots movie …… It has Cullen as Prime again, erm that’s all I can think of

You may jest, but presently Cullen's tones are the only reason I really want to see this movie.

Even though I cannot stand most of what I've seen...

...I do think Shia will make a decent Spike.
...I like the objectformers.

Alex Kingdom wrote:Positive things about this movie looking like crap?

- If it's slightly better than crap I'll be pleasently suprised.
- I'll save money by not buying the toys/Mechendise
- I'll spend less time on this site and the internet in general and do something more worthwhile with my life.

I second those, too.

Meh. I'm not going to be downloading it but only because at this point I really don't care enough to see it to bother with finding it and tying-up my connection. As of now I'm only interested in seeing whether it'll make enough to be considered 'critic-proof' and whether it'll move merchandise. I'll just catch it on HBO or borrow it from a friend who buys the dvd.

Positive things:

1) Some of the toys do look semi-appealing to me (granted, one of my all-time favorite tfs is Beast Machines Hammerstrike, simply because it's so damn goofy).

2) Takara/Tomy is still free to do their own thing.

3) It saves me the cost of a ticket/ $7 soda/ frustration from cell phones ringing and people talking/ hearing loss/ from being compelled to see it in theaters.

4) If by some chance it doesn't do well in theaters it'll be one more thing to mock Don Murphy over.

5) It might make the upcoming Evangelion film look slightly less disappointing by comparison.

Senor Hugo wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I sincerely hope that anyone who illegally downloads this movie is caught, and heavily fined or thrown in jail. I suppose in the vast list of criminal offenses, this isn't that severe, but I cannot stand thieves. If you aren't willing to pay for something others have worked hard on, they you don't get to see it. Period. By the way, I hope your parents are all happy with being failures at raising children.

Hey, if it was worth seeing it in theatres. We'd see it in theatres.

When I watch it on my computer and believe that it's worth seeing in the theatre. I'll go and see it.

I'm a pirate, and proud of it. The whole 'boo hoo you're stealing stuff that people worked hard on' schpeel is old. Obviously they didn't work hard enough on it for us to not pay to see it. Not to mention the only people getting hurt would be the crew, but then the studio already paid them.

So Bay won't be able to own his second helicopter like he wanted. It'll teach him to make better movies.

ARGH MATEY, I have a question If I borrow a Bootleg Copy or a real DVD and I didn't pay for it do I still deserve to watch it. My one Positive is the 360 Video Game coming out in June, based on the Movie Most Licensed game suck but I guarantee it will be better then the movie Unless it's like that catwoman game.

Phategod1 wrote:

Senor Hugo wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I sincerely hope that anyone who illegally downloads this movie is caught, and heavily fined or thrown in jail. I suppose in the vast list of criminal offenses, this isn't that severe, but I cannot stand thieves. If you aren't willing to pay for something others have worked hard on, they you don't get to see it. Period. By the way, I hope your parents are all happy with being failures at raising children.

Hey, if it was worth seeing it in theatres. We'd see it in theatres.

When I watch it on my computer and believe that it's worth seeing in the theatre. I'll go and see it.

I'm a pirate, and proud of it. The whole 'boo hoo you're stealing stuff that people worked hard on' schpeel is old. Obviously they didn't work hard enough on it for us to not pay to see it. Not to mention the only people getting hurt would be the crew, but then the studio already paid them.

So Bay won't be able to own his second helicopter like he wanted. It'll teach him to make better movies.

ARGH MATEY, I have a question If I borrow a Bootleg Copy or a real DVD and I didn't pay for it do I still deserve to watch it.

The current per-ticket take of a summer flick during the first few weeks is currently over 95%, around 20% more than it was a decade ago. Meaning the theater makes less than 5% of the ticket sale. The only reason theaters can still afford to operate (and there are far fewer of them than there used to be) is because they charge a markup of around 500%-700% on their concessions. Less than 1/10th of attendees actually purchase concessions because they (necessarily) cost far more than they would outside. Because the theaters can't afford to pay competitive wages they're primarily (under)staffed by desperate teenagers without job experience who don't really know how to operate a projector and are afraid to tell people talking on cell-phones or with screaming babies to quit it.

The reason theater attendance has declined so dramatically according to the MPAA? Digital piracy.

Anyone saying downloading it is illegal and so on.....


I am sure everyone at some time had taken a casette tape and recorded music off the radio, same thing witl file sharing.

and the reason theater attendences are lower these days are:

1: Near 10 bucks a ticket, especially when no one has money to spend these days in the era of Bushinomics.

2: Paying insane prices for overpriced junkfood and popcorn covered in glop resembling the stuff plastic surgeons suck out of fat people's asses.

3: Carpetting that has not been washed since 1982.

4: COUNTLESS NUMBERS OF SMEGGING PREVIEWS!!!!!

5: Ending up sitting next to some fat, sweaty she-hag.

6: People talking at the film.

7: Seats are covered in some bodily fluids I am not in a hurry to know what they are.

8: DVD's come with the stuff laying on the cutting room floor.

9: People only go to theaters nowadays to make out, anyhow.

10: Having to duck your head when the fellow with the camcorder is behind you.

Zuko wrote:Considering downloading it in the first place is a negative, anyone who answers has already failed at answering this thread correctly.

you misunderstand. the point of the the thread is 'you already have plenty of negative stuff about it, is there anything positive at all'

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although having said that personally i have no problem with downloading, and know that soon it will be perfectly legal and acceptable.. even the current model of pay-per-download i-tunes style is outdated. it's the quivalent of every channel on tv being pay-per-view for every single program, or even pay-per-listen radio, its ridiculous.

already (in england at least) most tv channels now broadacst everything for free over the internet, and allow you to download the programs too. i work for the bbc so i know all of the ins and outs and rights issues with this.

for expensive things like new release movies and music, ISPs will simply buy distribution rights, and this cost will be included in your monthly fee. exactly the same as cable/satellite tv currently works - you want access to all the latest sports coverage and movies, then you get a more expensive package. soon there will be no distinction between TV and internet, there wil just be content provision and viewing.

the only reason downloading does any harm at the moment is because companies are too slow to catch on, simple fact is that people WANT to download stuff, and ISPs are idiots for not cottoning on to the most simple business model in the book, supply and demand.

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:anyone saying downloading it is illegal and so on.....


I am sure everyone at some time had taken a casette tape and recorded music off the radio, same thing witl file sharing.

and the reason theater attendences are lower these days are:

1: Near 10 bucks a ticket, especially when no one has money to spend these days in the era of Bushinomics.

2: Paying insane prices for overpriced junkfood and popcorn covered in glop resembling the stuff plastic surgeons suck out of fat people's asses.

3: Carpetting that has not been washed since 1982.

4: COUNTLESS NUMBERS OF SMEGGING PREVIEWS!!!!!

5: Ending up sitting next to some fat, sweaty she-hag.

6: People talking at the film.

7: Seats are covered in some bodily fluids I am not in a hurry to know what they are.

8: DVD's come with the stuff laying on the cutting room floor.

9: People only go to theaters nowadays to make out, anyhow.

10: Having to duck your head when the fellow with the camcorder is behind you.

you missed off what i think is the key point in the death of cinema -

HOME CINEMA

why go pay megabucks to see a film on what is a lesser experience than getting some mates around to watch a film on your 7.1 dolby HD projector setup. but personally i cant afford a home cinema setup so i'll be going to see it at the cinema on launch day to see the effects in all their glory, and also downloading it the same day so i dont waste hundreds on repeat viewings. in 10 years time when every singlemovie is released direct-to-download in full HD, it'll be a different story.

BACK ON TOPIC......

i coulnt possibly say one positive thing about the movie, because there are two damn many. to quickly sum up what i think though...

when i saw that dancing transformer citroen advert, i thought.. man. this would make an amazing movie. shortly afterwards, my prayers were answered. my primary concern is seeing a movie of real-life giant transforming robots stomping around the place. if the story is any good, thats a bonus, and if it has some of my old favourite transformers characters in, then, well, thats an even bigger bonus.