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Postby Riotflea » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:33 am

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Anyone saying downloading it is illegal and so on.....


I am sure everyone at some time had taken a casette tape and recorded music off the radio, same thing witl file sharing.

and the reason theater attendences are lower these days are:

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4: COUNTLESS NUMBERS OF SMEGGING PREVIEWS!!!!! :P

5: Ending up sitting next to some fat, sweaty she-hag. :shock:

6: People talking at the film.:roll:

7: Seats are covered in some bodily fluids I am not in a hurry to know what they are. :MAD:

8: DVD's come with the stuff laying on the cutting room floor. :wink:



You know...Every one of those is right.

I mean, people who like to act all condescending towards movie downloaders (Hi, Ironhidensh!) are missing the MAJOR fact that going to see a movie... you're not even seeing the whole movie anymore.

A DVD comes out, there's more footage, there's fun extras... and it's yours forever.

All seeing it in a stupid, smelly, stanky, sticky theatre is to watch a really long preview.
Problem is, you're paying a good few bucks to do so.

I used to watch movies ALOT. And now that I think about it, the experiences often sucked, for one or more reasons.
The projector would be screwed up, newborns would be crying through it, bratty kids running up and down the aisle while fatass parents sat there yelling, people licking and tossing jujube's at the screen to see if they stick, flows of sugary liquid spilling all over your shoes from further up, people talking, people who already saw it giving away everything to friends, ushers swinging flashlights around just because some goofy kids were making out... silently, your limbs falling asleep, bad audio, idiots not dimming the lights until everyone in the theater's yelling, smelly people, people squishing by you, people kicking your chair, tall people blocking your view, improper heating / cooling, can't pause the movie to pee... which leads to people "adding" to the spilled soda on the floor, the smell of excrement, "EXIT" sign distracting your vision, cellphones going off, creaky doors as people exit and enter, shitty picture quality to begin with, losing your EXPENSIVE concession stand goodies to folding seats because there was nowhere else to put them, and the lines, lines, LINES!

So really...
Illegaly downloading a movie before you waste time/money/whatever on it is "bad"?
Technically, but so is jaywalking. And like jaywalking, it's just UNREASONABLE to adhere to that law.

If one chooses to be so ANAL as to say people downloading movies should be "heavily fined or thrown in jail", then I applaud them for never having jaywalked, loitered out in a parking lot, downloaded or saved ANYTHING from online they didn't have permission to, etc etc.

We're BOUND in laws these days. Getting in your car and going out shopping almost certainly involves some unseen, outdated law being broken.

Ironhidensh, aside from me observing time and again that you're PROBABLY a plant for promotion of this movie, that you often have to jump in whenever the word "download" appears or someone says anything even remotely negative, I do want to know who you think is being hurt by seeing the movie before deciding to support it.

And have you EVER broken a law because it was outdated, unjustified, or too bothersome to adhere to?
You can PM me that answer, for this topic's already been pooped on once.

Anyway, one positive side effect to this movie could be studios realizing that accessing the mind of the fans better (but not completely) for help on large projects is PROBABLY a good idea.
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Postby Phategod1 » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:05 am

i know a very law abiding citizen that enjoys movies but he absolutely refuses to step foot in theater he waits for DVD because the theather experience has turned into crap plus with a home theater unit whats the point plus the marked up ticket and concession prices and movies that when compared to the golden age of cenima just plain suck these are real reason why theaters are declining not piracy.
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Postby Leonardo » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:17 am

Riotflea wrote:I mean, people who like to act all condescending towards movie downloaders (Hi, Ironhidensh!) are missing the MAJOR fact that going to see a movie... you're not even seeing the whole movie anymore.


While I see what you're saying, I just wanted to pick up on this one sentence. Audiences never saw an entire film; there's always been footage (nearly 80%, apparently) left on the cutting room floor! Audiences have consistently missed out on extra footage; the extra features on DVD's are just that: extra. They're bonuses.

I see what you're saying, though, as the majority of my cinema-going experiences have been less than enjoyable.
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Postby TheMuffin » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:08 am

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Man I'd really hate to see some of the theaters you people describe. The one I go to has inclined rows so even tall people don't block your view. Rows are spaced nicely so you don't have to stand up to let someone by. Competent employees and ushers who I've actually seen remove someone for talking on a phone. Clean floors and handrails. Excellent picture and sound quality. $6.50 for a matinee and the best of all...Reclining seats.

For people like me who only have an LCD screen and some crappy speakers, the theater is wonderful.
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Postby Leonardo » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:08 am

Cleanliness and space aren't issues for me. It's the disturbing noise of chatter that puts me off cinemas. Some people can be so rude.
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Postby ScorpoMax » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:53 pm

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Anyone saying downloading it is illegal and so on.....


I am sure everyone at some time had taken a casette tape and recorded music off the radio, same thing witl file sharing.

and the reason theater attendences are lower these days are:

1: Near 10 bucks a ticket, especially when no one has money to spend these days in the era of Bushinomics.:-(

2: Paying insane prices for overpriced junkfood and popcorn covered in glop resembling the stuff plastic surgeons suck out of fat people's asses. :?

3: Carpetting that has not been washed since 1982. :-P

4: COUNTLESS NUMBERS OF SMEGGING PREVIEWS!!!!! :P

5: Ending up sitting next to some fat, sweaty she-hag. :shock:

6: People talking at the film.:roll:

7: Seats are covered in some bodily fluids I am not in a hurry to know what they are. :MAD:

8: DVD's come with the stuff laying on the cutting room floor. :wink:

9: People only go to theaters nowadays to make out, anyhow. :-?

10: Having to duck your head when the fellow with the camcorder is behind you. :lol:



You forgot one: Crappy movie making.

Still a good list though.

I just want to step out and say IMHO it's pretty dumb to come out in the open and admit you intend to bootleg something. Right reasons for doing so or not, it's still illegal. If you want to do something like that, the safest thing to do is to just keep it to yourself.

You guys do what you want. Me, I'm probably going to boycott this movie on its opening weekend, see how it does, and maybe go see it in theaters the weekend after its release.
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Postby TheMuffin » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:38 pm

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Leonardo wrote:Cleanliness and space aren't issues for me. It's the disturbing noise of chatter that puts me off cinemas. Some people can be so rude.


Come live in Ohio. The corn growing is louder than the people in the theater. It's great!
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Postby Shadowman » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:27 pm

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Zuko wrote:Man I'd really hate to see some of the theaters you people describe. The one I go to has inclined rows so even tall people don't block your view. Rows are spaced nicely so you don't have to stand up to let someone by. Competent employees and ushers who I've actually seen remove someone for talking on a phone. Clean floors and handrails. Excellent picture and sound quality. $6.50 for a matinee and the best of all...Reclining seats.

For people like me who only have an LCD screen and some crappy speakers, the theater is wonderful.


Yeah, the theater where I live is really nice. Nice incline for the seats, it's always clean, previews aren't TOO bad, and people generally shut up. And prices are not half bad.

Also, downloading a movie is one thing (Although you have to wodner what happens when they catch you. I had my internet shut off once for it!), but downloading to prove a point (Such as to discourage a director) is all kinds of stupid.
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:30 am

Leonardo wrote:
Riotflea wrote:I mean, people who like to act all condescending towards movie downloaders (Hi, Ironhidensh!) are missing the MAJOR fact that going to see a movie... you're not even seeing the whole movie anymore.


While I see what you're saying, I just wanted to pick up on this one sentence. Audiences never saw an entire film; there's always been footage (nearly 80%, apparently) left on the cutting room floor! Audiences have consistently missed out on extra footage; the extra features on DVD's are just that: extra. They're bonuses.


There is also a reason that footage gets cut, most of it is rubbish. It either doesnt work visually, doesnt really fit the continuity of the story or slows down the pace of the movie too much. It only when directors are given strict guidelines on how long their movie can be that the good stuff gets cut. However it is nice to get that material as part of a DVD just so you can make you own mind about whether it should have been in the movie or not.

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Postby metalslugx1942 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:53 pm

I will watch this movie at home, then the big screen if its worth it. I like the toylines for the most part. A little on the box office demise for a minute whom seem to think movies at the theaters are loosing steam....

Da Vinci Code
Released in US May 19, 2006

Total US Gross $217,536,138
Production Budget $125,000,000
Worldwide Gross $756,236,138

Released in US December 22, 2006
Total US Gross $226,395,996
Worldwide Gross $438,395,996
MPAA Rating PG-13 for mild action, language and brief rude humor

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Released in US July 7, 2006

Total US Gross $423,416,000
Production Budget $150,000,000
Worldwide Gross $1,064,516,000
MPAA Rating PG-13 for intense sequences of adventure violence, including frightening images
TV Rights (USA, sold July, 2006): Undisclosed. Estimated at $20 million - $25 million
Running Time: 151 minutes

The Queen

Released in US September 30, 2006 (limited)
Total US Gross $46,524,527
Production Budget $15,000,000
Worldwide Gross $70,524,527
MPAA Rating PG-13 for brief strong language.
Budget Source: Screen International, 9/8/2006

MI 3
Released in US May 5, 2006
October 30, 2006 (DVD Sale)
October 30, 2006 (HD-DVD Sale)
October 30, 2006 (Blu-Ray Sale)
Total US Gross $133,501,348
Production Budget $150,000,000
Worldwide Gross $395,695,255
MPAA Rating PG-13 for intense sequences of frenetic violenc

And our movie...
Released in US July 4, 2007
Total US Gross $0
Production Budget $150,000,000
Highest Combined Star Gross 146 (see full chart)
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