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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby ZenPrime » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:40 pm

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fordprefect294 wrote:$39 over MSRP


Actually MSRP is $99.99
TRU is selling it for the discounted price of $69.99
says so right on the website.

even still better then $79.99 over MSRP on eBay.


When the item was first listed on TRU.com it was 69.99 on sale for $55.00. When I purchased the item at TRU Time Square the price tag on the shelves stated $69.99.


MSRP is on the TRU website.


Technically on the TRU.com's webpage it's "List Price" and not MSRP and below is a photo of the price tag in the stores, so go figure...

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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby vectorA3 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:13 pm

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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby ZenPrime » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:23 pm

vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?
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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby xyl360 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:31 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?

It's different because BBTS' supply of the figures will be factored in to what TRU requests/orders from Hasbro. Scalper supplies are not.
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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby ZenPrime » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:47 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?

It's different because BBTS' supply of the figures will be factored in to what TRU requests/orders from Hasbro. Scalper supplies are not.


so even if that is true, it's ok for BBTS to take a $70 item and mark it up to $100+ but it's not ok for others to do so? I see the double standard there...
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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby RodimalToyota » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:50 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?

It's different because BBTS' supply of the figures will be factored in to what TRU requests/orders from Hasbro. Scalper supplies are not.


so even if that is true, it's ok for BBTS to take a $70 item and mark it up to $100+ but it's not ok for others to do so? I see the double standard there...



They have to factor in re-shipping from TRU to BBTS, overhead for employees to unload and reload, Website costs, Box and packaging costs.
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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby xyl360 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:57 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?

It's different because BBTS' supply of the figures will be factored in to what TRU requests/orders from Hasbro. Scalper supplies are not.


so even if that is true, it's ok for BBTS to take a $70 item and mark it up to $100+ but it's not ok for others to do so? I see the double standard there...

My issue with scalpers was never the price. It's that they generate a false demand by reducing the retail availability of a product, thus preventing other actual consumers from purchasing the product from a valid retail source.

BBTS, regardless of price, is a valid retail source. It's just like the shared exclusive BBTS has with Amazon and the G2 Bruticus set. If BBTS had it marked up 200% of Amazon's price, that's their business, and they have every right to do so, but them getting those figures does not impact the retail availability of the product to the consumer. Scalpers do affect the retail availability of a product to the consumer and are acting as retailers by purchasing products at retail and then turning around and selling it for a profit. This turns TRU's stores in this case, into a supplier/wholesaler, which they are not and allows the scalpers to act like licensed retailers with exclusive stock of a product, again, which they are not (or at least they aren't supposed to be).
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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby ZenPrime » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:04 pm

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ZenPrime wrote:
vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?

It's different because BBTS' supply of the figures will be factored in to what TRU requests/orders from Hasbro. Scalper supplies are not.


so even if that is true, it's ok for BBTS to take a $70 item and mark it up to $100+ but it's not ok for others to do so? I see the double standard there...



They have to factor in re-shipping from TRU to BBTS, overhead for employees to unload and reload, Website costs, Box and packaging costs.


I imagine there are costs that these "scalpers" would have to cover as well, like the 10%+ ebay/paypal fees. Look I'm not defending the "scalpers" but in the end both are out to turn a profit which ever way they can so I see no difference in that. So as a consumer I will purchase from who ever offers the best price.
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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby RodimalToyota » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:11 pm

ZenPrime wrote:
RodimalToyota wrote:
ZenPrime wrote:
xyl360 wrote:
ZenPrime wrote:
vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?

It's different because BBTS' supply of the figures will be factored in to what TRU requests/orders from Hasbro. Scalper supplies are not.


so even if that is true, it's ok for BBTS to take a $70 item and mark it up to $100+ but it's not ok for others to do so? I see the double standard there...



They have to factor in re-shipping from TRU to BBTS, overhead for employees to unload and reload, Website costs, Box and packaging costs.


I imagine there are costs that these "scalpers" would have to cover as well, like the 10%+ ebay/paypal fees. Look I'm not defending the "scalpers" but in the end both are out to turn a profit which ever way they can so I see no difference in that. So as a consumer I will purchase from who ever offers the best price.



BBTS doesn't raise the price based upon checking "completed listings" on ebay. BBTS is not taking away current retail merchandise and artificially raising prices.

Your telling me, trucking cost + Employee cost, + boxes + Materials + website design + Advertising + sales tax + Needing to make a profit...

Is the same as paying a 7% Paypal fee, a 5% Ebay fee, and the gas in the car? then Artificially raising a 69$ toy to 140$ that's currently at retail outlets, just scarcer because too many damn scalpers are taking them?






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Re: You Missed Out - Masterpiece Thundercracker Out Of Stock at ToysRUs.com

Postby ZenPrime » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:20 pm

RodimalToyota wrote:
ZenPrime wrote:
RodimalToyota wrote:
ZenPrime wrote:
xyl360 wrote:
ZenPrime wrote:
vectorA3 wrote:I would say BBTS gets their supply from TRU directly. (Once a Hasbro item is a store exclusive, you can only get it from that store -I've asked H about this b4). Although BBTS costs more, I recommended them because they double box and ship with care. (At least the last MP I received was double boxed). Don't feed the scalpers!!!!!!!


If that's the case, it makes it even worse. BBTS probably got their stock at wholesale price point lots lower than the MSRP of $69.99 and yet they mark it up to $100+ and in doing so also take stock away from TRU and TRU.com to be able to offer them to customer at the lower MSRP price. So how is that different than scalping?

It's different because BBTS' supply of the figures will be factored in to what TRU requests/orders from Hasbro. Scalper supplies are not.


so even if that is true, it's ok for BBTS to take a $70 item and mark it up to $100+ but it's not ok for others to do so? I see the double standard there...



They have to factor in re-shipping from TRU to BBTS, overhead for employees to unload and reload, Website costs, Box and packaging costs.


I imagine there are costs that these "scalpers" would have to cover as well, like the 10%+ ebay/paypal fees. Look I'm not defending the "scalpers" but in the end both are out to turn a profit which ever way they can so I see no difference in that. So as a consumer I will purchase from who ever offers the best price.



BBTS doesn't raise the price based upon checking "completed listings" on ebay. BBTS is not taking away current retail merchandise and artificially raising prices.

Your telling me, trucking cost + Employee cost, + boxes + Materials + website design + Advertising + sales tax + Needing to make a profit...

Is the same as paying a 7% Paypal fee, a 5% Ebay fee, and the gas in the car? then Artificially raising a 69$ toy to 140$ that's currently at retail outlets, just scarcer because too many damn scalpers are taking them?






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Most consumers do not understand business and even if they do, prices is a deciding factor in their purchase and can you really prove that BBTS obtain stock directly from TRU? Neither can I, but I really don't have to. All I have to know is they're selling an item that I purchased from TRU for $69.99 at $109.99.
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