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New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat

Transformers News: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat

Wednesday, January 16th, 2013 10:19PM CST

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Thanks to e-Hobby we have some new clear images of Takara Tomy's recently announced Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat. Grimlock gets the shiny metallic makeover, which includes a more accurate red abdomen. Ratbat gets a brand new shiny metallic deco with the IDW Comics inspired Senator Ratbat head first saw on Generations Scourge's instruction sheet. Images mirrored below.

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Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455693)
Posted by Manterax Prime on January 16th, 2013 @ 10:26pm CST
The only difference I see on that Grimlock is the game-accurate red abdomen section and grey feet.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455694)
Posted by Rhinox23 on January 16th, 2013 @ 10:30pm CST
Manterax Prime wrote:The only difference I see on that Grimlock is the game-accurate red abdomen section and grey feet.


Yeah, I'm right there with you. I was really hoping for an overall super shiny metallic silver and gold paint as well, but especially the silver! I have him preordered from BBTS right now but I might be cancelling it. I just don't think it's different enough to justify getting him for the $63. The metallic black looks nice but the overall look may not be enough. Oh well, I've got some time to make up my mind.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455697)
Posted by President-prime on January 16th, 2013 @ 10:37pm CST
That head on eat at is supercool. A coat of purple males a big difference. Wow!
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455698)
Posted by xyl360 on January 16th, 2013 @ 10:38pm CST
I've got both preordered (and staying that way, I'm not getting the Hasbro version of Grimmy at all). I would like to see a side by side comparison of the two Grimlocks though so I can really see what differences there are in the same lighting with the same camera.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455699)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2013 @ 10:39pm CST
Manterax Prime wrote:The only difference I see on that Grimlock is the game-accurate red abdomen section and grey feet.
That red abdomen is enough to make me want it. :D
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455700)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on January 16th, 2013 @ 10:40pm CST
So many times I held that Scourge fig in my hands, tempted to buy. Glad I never did, though. Ratbat looks awesome! Yay for IDW head! :APPLAUSE:
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455703)
Posted by Noideaforaname on January 16th, 2013 @ 10:56pm CST
I'm not usually one for bots with "anime-faces" (much less on bots that are *supposed* to be animals), but Ratbat looks so nice. I hope Hasbro carries him over, I really don't want to have to pay ~$40.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455705)
Posted by wolverinetodd on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:00pm CST
President-prime wrote:That head on eat at is supercool. A coat of purple males a big difference. Wow!


What?
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455706)
Posted by datguy86 on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:05pm CST
wolverinetodd wrote:
President-prime wrote:That head on eat at is supercool. A coat of purple males a big difference. Wow!


What?


"eat at" is what happens when a person's fingers slip on a QWERTY keyboard. 'e' is next to 'r', and the space key is below 'b'. It's supposed to be 'ratbat' but the poster missed.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455709)
Posted by President-prime on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:10pm CST
Sorry I meant that head on ratbat is supercool. Purple makes that mode looks good. iPhone auto seller sucks
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455710)
Posted by President-prime on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:11pm CST
Datngu: you're funny
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455711)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:21pm CST
These new pictures make me want Ratbat even more! =P~
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455715)
Posted by Rated X on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:36pm CST
Uggghhh...That tail !!!

It looks like when a lizzards tail breaks off and he has a stump. Will he grow a new one. Ratbat pre-ordered. Not so much that I like the IDW character, but I like the mold.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455717)
Posted by STngAR on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:41pm CST
Would have liked Ratbat with a little less shine. :MAXIMAL:
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455719)
Posted by megatronus on January 16th, 2013 @ 11:56pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:So many times I held that Scourge fig in my hands, tempted to buy. Glad I never did, though. Ratbat looks awesome! Yay for IDW head! :APPLAUSE:


Your loss. Scourge is a great mold. Especially when you have enough of them to have a fleet of Sweeps. :twisted:
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455721)
Posted by Seibertron on January 17th, 2013 @ 12:00am CST
Ratbat looks awesome. Nice work HasTak. :D
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455725)
Posted by Andrius on January 17th, 2013 @ 12:08am CST
Am I correct in assuming that everything on Ratbat is a paint application and not a sticker? Takara's recent sticker-craziness has left me a bit paranoid...
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455726)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2013 @ 12:09am CST
Andrius wrote:Am I correct in assuming that everything on Ratbat is a paint application and not a sticker? Takara's recent sticker-craziness has left me a bit paranoid...
This is Generations, not Prime.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455728)
Posted by Andrius on January 17th, 2013 @ 12:12am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Andrius wrote:Am I correct in assuming that everything on Ratbat is a paint application and not a sticker? Takara's recent sticker-craziness has left me a bit paranoid...
This is Generations, not Prime.


That's what I was thinking. But it's been so long since I'd purchased from Takara, I couldn't remember where the line was drawn for sure. And that chest looks a bit sticker-y. Anyway, preordered :D
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455734)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on January 17th, 2013 @ 1:10am CST
i am in love with that ratbat. damn.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455764)
Posted by SkyWarpsGhost on January 17th, 2013 @ 5:00am CST
I think this Ratbat would make a good Leozack custom. The head just screams LZ to me.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455776)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on January 17th, 2013 @ 7:13am CST
Andrius wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Andrius wrote:Am I correct in assuming that everything on Ratbat is a paint application and not a sticker? Takara's recent sticker-craziness has left me a bit paranoid...
This is Generations, not Prime.


That's what I was thinking. But it's been so long since I'd purchased from Takara, I couldn't remember where the line was drawn for sure. And that chest looks a bit sticker-y. Anyway, preordered :D


Only the Arms Micron line of Prime has stickers, it's all part of the DIY/customising approach that's all the rage among younger kids in Japan.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455782)
Posted by Dorkimus on January 17th, 2013 @ 8:14am CST
Grimlock is still rather meh and IMO not worth buying, but that Ratbat looks really nice.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455785)
Posted by Cybertronus on January 17th, 2013 @ 8:21am CST
what is with the face on the rear of Ratbat in jet mode? :-?
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455792)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on January 17th, 2013 @ 8:45am CST
Cybertronus wrote:what is with the face on the rear of Ratbat in jet mode? :-?


He's a retool of Generations Scourge. In the G1 cartoon, Scourge had two animation models for both vehicle and robot modes. Occasionally, the older one would be used by accident, and it's the older one that had the head sticking out in the back. The feature is an intentional callback to that.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455802)
Posted by Va'al on January 17th, 2013 @ 9:35am CST
As a big fan of what IDW has done and is doing with the franchise's history and lore, that Ratbat deserves a place of my desk, out of any displays (as it doesn't really fit it in anywhere else).

Yes, I might preorder him, in his shiny shiny purpleness. Luvly.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455814)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 17th, 2013 @ 10:03am CST
*On Senator Ratbat:

Gimme. NAO.

*On Grimlock:

Eh, I notice nothing completely significant enough to import. I'll wait.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455833)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 17th, 2013 @ 11:17am CST
Mindmaster wrote:*On Senator Ratbat:
Gimme. NAO.


Gimme nao is a bit of an understatement, Image
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455857)
Posted by Heckfire on January 17th, 2013 @ 12:59pm CST
He looks way less like Ratbat and more like Hellbat.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455859)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2013 @ 1:09pm CST
Heckfire wrote:He looks way less like Ratbat and more like Hellbat.
Mindmaster wrote:Image

I dunno, looks pretty Ratbat-ish if you ask me.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455873)
Posted by RAcast on January 17th, 2013 @ 1:58pm CST
SkyWarpsGhost wrote:I think this Ratbat would make a good Leozack custom. The head just screams LZ to me.

Yes, YES! That's what it was making me think of! That he'd just screams breastmaster!
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455879)
Posted by Va'al on January 17th, 2013 @ 2:22pm CST
Ok, I'm going to ask this here, out of curiosity:

When you see a new release, do you try appreciating it for what it is, which character it represents, and its pros and cons, or do you only see the potential for something else?

I'm not trying to attack anyone, just asking after those last comments!

(Also because I really just see Ratbat in that figure, and I like seeing Ratbat. :-( )
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455897)
Posted by SkyWarpsGhost on January 17th, 2013 @ 3:05pm CST
I've pre-ordered him because I like him as he is. I do mod tfs, but only to cheap ones I find on sale. I'd never spend £30 on a deluxe, just to repaint etc.
Maybe I see potential for repaints etc because of my modding/repainting eg Runabout & Runamuck from movie Sideswipe (the silver/red with 2 guns ver) that I got for £5 each. I see a bargain and just start getting ideas of who else that mold would work well with.

I'd maybe take a mold of Ratbats head, and try and find a cheap scourge.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455904)
Posted by Va'al on January 17th, 2013 @ 3:23pm CST
That was also in my thoughts.
Why spend money on a relatively expensive figure if you're then going to take it apart?
I understand cheap, discounted ones for parts or troop building or repurposing, through modding or not; but I would never look at, say, a MP figure, and go, Oooh, that'd look ace as something completely different.

I guess it's a factor of both resources and skills, too.

In any case, I was going to pre-order this, but noticed that it's not expected until May/June. So I'll wait a bit, seeing as how there doesn't seem to be a rush for him.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455909)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 17th, 2013 @ 3:28pm CST
Va'al wrote:So I'll wait a bit, seeing as how there doesn't seem to be a rush for him.


Like I said about both Senator Ratbat and MP Soundwave:

Mindmaster wrote:I'm giving Hasbro six months to announce stateside releases before biting the bullet and importing.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455911)
Posted by rpetras on January 17th, 2013 @ 3:31pm CST
Preorderd both, but I'm not sure I'm going to keep them.

We'll see.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455912)
Posted by Va'al on January 17th, 2013 @ 3:31pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:
Va'al wrote:So I'll wait a bit, seeing as how there doesn't seem to be a rush for him.


Like I said about both Senator Ratbat and MP Soundwave:

Mindmaster wrote:I'm giving Hasbro six months to announce stateside releases before biting the bullet and importing.


Indeedy.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455913)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 17th, 2013 @ 3:32pm CST
rpetras wrote:Preorderd both, but I'm not sure I'm going to keep them.

We'll see.


I'll take your Ratbat for free then! :grin:

:lol:
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455926)
Posted by bruticus1978 on January 17th, 2013 @ 4:12pm CST
Just preordered Grimy. Any FOC/WFC I have to buy! :grin:
Here's hoping for a TG Thundercracker!
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455948)
Posted by RAcast on January 17th, 2013 @ 5:16pm CST
Va'al wrote:Ok, I'm going to ask this here, out of curiosity:

When you see a new release, do you try appreciating it for what it is, which character it represents, and its pros and cons, or do you only see the potential for something else?

I'm not trying to attack anyone, just asking after those last comments!

(Also because I really just see Ratbat in that figure, and I like seeing Ratbat. :-( )

Oh no, if I got it I'd want it as Ratbat! It'd look great next to GDO Laserbeak and FoC Soundwave. :D I just made the comment about the head sculpt because it was bugging me that it looked kinda familiar, with the robot-face-within-a-beast-face aesthetic, when whoever it was mentioned Leozack, I realized what I was trying to remember.

If you're referring to my comment in the Commander Trailbreaker thread...eh, it just doesn't scream "Trailbreaker" to me. He looks too much like he wants to KILL you. G1 Trailbreaker doesn't give off that vibe on sight. :lol: However, a bit after I made that post, I poked around tfu wondering who it could be repurposed as, I realized that it's homaging the red-visored G1 toy, which is kinda cool in and of itself. :) Also, Trailbreaker just isn't Trailbreaker without his hologram projector.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1455971)
Posted by Stormrider on January 17th, 2013 @ 6:42pm CST
Didn't Ratbat have 4 talon fingered hands? I would have loved that on the mold.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456064)
Posted by Va'al on January 18th, 2013 @ 2:10am CST
Stormrider wrote:Didn't Ratbat have 4 talon fingered hands? I would have loved that on the mold.


Do you mean this one?

Image

This is from Dreamwave's War Within series.

The look they're going for, as others have pointed out, is the IDW Megatron: Origin one.

Image
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456159)
Posted by Mkall on January 18th, 2013 @ 12:04pm CST
I am disappointed that the Autobot Senate's logo was replaced with the Decepticon logo on Ratbat's chest. Grimlock got to keep his faction's logo after all.

I'm sure there'll be a Reprolabels that will rectify that.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456165)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2013 @ 12:19pm CST
Mkall wrote:I am disappointed that the Autobot Senate's logo was replaced with the Decepticon logo on Ratbat's chest. Grimlock got to keep his faction's logo after all.
I think it might be due to Grimlock's symbol being molded in.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456183)
Posted by Unicronobot on January 18th, 2013 @ 1:26pm CST
The only real difference between this Grimlock and the hasbro is the red abs..anyone with patience and a buck to spar can easily paint that..totally not worth the 63 bucks. I'm keeping my preorder for the hasbro and I'll just paint the red abs.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456209)
Posted by Spleenzorio on January 18th, 2013 @ 2:18pm CST
Ratbat looks awesome, but dat pricetag. I'm hoping to see a Hasbro version before June when the Japanese version is released.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456228)
Posted by xyl360 on January 18th, 2013 @ 3:04pm CST
Unicronobot wrote:The only real difference between this Grimlock and the hasbro is the red abs..anyone with patience and a buck to spar can easily paint that..totally not worth the 63 bucks. I'm keeping my preorder for the hasbro and I'll just paint the red abs.

I'm not so sure. I suspect the shades of plastics used may be different as well (which is typical with most Takara releases when compared to Hasbro ones). Whether such differences are worth the higher pricetag is certainly up for speculation and up to the individual to decide, however I'd still like to see some side by side pics of the two to make up my own mind.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456270)
Posted by Stormrider on January 18th, 2013 @ 6:14pm CST
Va'al wrote:
Stormrider wrote:Didn't Ratbat have 4 talon fingered hands? I would have loved that on the mold.


Do you mean this one?

Image

This is from Dreamwave's War Within series.

The look they're going for, as others have pointed out, is the IDW Megatron: Origin one.

Image


Thanks for the explanation. :)
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456439)
Posted by Sodan-1 on January 19th, 2013 @ 2:12pm CST
OK, so Ratbat does look good, and thanks to those who posted the images from the IDW comics I now see how this is Ratbat. But I can't look at it without seeing Scourge, and having troop built the Generations figure I think I'm done spending money on this mold.

As for Grimlock, I do prefer Takara's version over Hasbro's, but I'm still not sold on the mold as a whole. I'll grab him if he goes on clearance.
Re: New Clear Images: Takara Tomy Transformers Generations TG-19 Grimlock and TG-20 Ratbat (1456490)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on January 19th, 2013 @ 7:45pm CST
I like the Ratbat repaint a lot, which is ironic, since I actually passed on the original Scourge toy. He looks perfectly at home with my G1/WFC/FOC collection. Love the head sculpt.

As for Grimlock, I think I'll get the Hasbro version and "pimp him out" with metallic red, silver and gold paint from a rattle can--that way, I can save some cash instead of getting the Takara version.
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