Botcon 2009: Confirmation that Transformers Animated is ending

Provided of course it leads to a series with a better style of animation, and hell, a more serious attitude.

It is a shame but I will be interested to see what follows. I hope it does grow up a bit.

I enjoyed Animated for what it was and the healthy number of nods to fave g1 characters was appreciated.

I hope what follows has a better style, isnt a mix of cartoon and CGI and has some people who love the characters behind it.

I'm sad
That series had all it take to go on for a lot of time.
It was the best series since Beast Wars. Sure they were a little childish some times and I wasn't too keen at the all TOON look they had but I always saw them has a good show for the new generation of transformers fans

I bet somebody out there is saying "Always Predictable". I mean we saw this coming. It happened to G1 it could happen to any American made Transformers series. (Either that or recession really hit them hard)

It's sad but for a show to last as long as it did is alot nowdays. I haven't watch them all yet but did it have a definate end or was it left open for future stuff?

i get the feeling now they know there is a big enough fanbase from kids to adults they can make a calculated risk on something more grown up......at the end of the day Animated was to get kids hooked on tf's. Now they are well maybe they can evolve the basic idea of animated....ie good storylines but combine it with decent animation.....as much as i love animated i hate the look of the dam thing lol

Elita One wrote:It's sad but for a show to last as long as it did is alot nowdays. I haven't watch them all yet but did it have a definate end or was it left open for future stuff?

Sounds like there will be a conclusion, as First Gen said "Some spoilers of the seasons ending were revealed but you'll have to watch the final episodes to find those out Seibertronians."

What I'd like to know is what's going to happen with the toy line? It will obviously end as well, but how? Will things mentioned here still happen?

and still no constructicon toys! WTF!?

it will be a shame to see animated finish

but i think the next cartoon will go down the lines of "clone wars" and give us a bigger longer story arc between movies 2 and 3.

That really sucks! At first, I couldn't get past the animation style or the continuity issues. Optimus, a low level mining bot? Starscream getting killed like Kenny every episode. WTF??)
But, the show was developing and had potential.

Mostly, I'm pissed that I won't have a chance to buy Rodimus! It was a disappointment not seeing him in the season as promised.

Seems to me Animated has a huge fan base. I guess that doesn't really matter much to Hasbro. I'll take the cartoony look of Animated over the backward, chicken legged, stocky, long armed, indestinguishable faced, bland color schemes that 90 percent of the movie line has any day. Way to go guys!

Galvatron Supreme wrote:Mostly, I'm pissed that I won't have a chance to buy Rodimus! It was a disappointment not seeing him in the season as promised.

he was in episode 1 of season 3 dude...albeit only briefly


an yeah as much as i love the movie the bots/cons look awful on a general basis

I am a sad monkey.

one of the best series ever...

great plots and characters

had major potential

AND THIS IS HOW THEY END IT??? you've got to be kidding me.

guys... they ended it cuz the ratings were low. that means... well

we really need to actually watch the next series on tv. not youtube.

YOUTUBE KILLS TV!!!

Elita One wrote:It's sad but for a show to last as long as it did is alot nowdays. I haven't watch them all yet but did it have a definate end or was it left open for future stuff?

There are enough open ends to spawn a good few fanfics and mosiacs, IMHO.

Zordon wrote:but i think the next cartoon will go down the lines of "clone wars" and give us a bigger longer story arc between movies 2 and 3.

Do we need that though?

Wouldn't it be just a hell of a lot like Transformers : Energon only with an Armada style Prime and Jetfire combo, and the movie style aesthetic.

Actually that doesn't sound that bad.

Still wish we had a fourth season of animated though.

Noooooooo!!!! I still have so many questions!!! Whatever happened to Blackarachnia and Waspinator? Will Magnus get better??

Autobot13 wrote:guys... they ended it cuz the ratings were low. that means... well

we really need to actually watch the next series on tv. not youtube.

YOUTUBE KILLS TV!!!

yes well, i had to watch it on youtube on account of the fact those jackasses at nicktoons or hasbro or whoever deal with the broadcast haven't even aired season 3 yet! how in the hell do they expect UK fans to watch it on tv... WHEN IT WAS NEVER ON???

when will these final episode(s) air?

Primus1101 wrote:

Autobot13 wrote:guys... they ended it cuz the ratings were low. that means... well

we really need to actually watch the next series on tv. not youtube.

YOUTUBE KILLS TV!!!

yes well, i had to watch it on youtube on account of the fact those jackasses at nicktoons or hasbro or whoever deal with the broadcast haven't even aired season 3 yet! how in the hell do they expect UK fans to watch it on tv... WHEN IT WAS NEVER ON???

SPOT ON POST.......and when ever it was on 99% of people are at work ffs!!!!!!!

Yup, as someone wrote earlier in this thread, predictable.
The show was too well done for its own good, and when a tv show in the U.S. gives off the hint of quality, it must therefore die.
Thats ok, we'll get to still see season after season without end of idiocy like Pokemon, though. Garbage sells.
I had an unlikely but nice fantasy that Cartoon Network would pick up the tab for another season like they did with Big O a few years back. I mean, why not? Most of what they show on Adult Swim is the equivalent of someone spitting a hocker on an animation cell, then video taping it running down the cell to the accompaniment of inane, non-sensical dialogue. That or a bunch of live action mental cases jumping around after raiding the clothing department at a San Fransisco Salvation Army. Isn't it about time CN did something worthwhile again?
And what's more, I coulda lived with this a lot better if we had gotten the sheer volume of toys that say, Cybertron or Energon had gotten prior to cancellation so we coulda at least said that it was a good run while it lasted. But instead we're left with a tiny collection of TFA figures and big pile of what coulda been.

Burn wrote:
Provided of course it leads to a series with a better style of animation, and hell, a more serious attitude.

Did you actually watch the show, or were you on of the many who decided to hate it based on it's look? The vast majority of TF: Animated's content was incredibly serious. Sure, the few episodes that dealt with human villains were a bit goofy, but they were few and far between. The story telling is very much on par with Beast Wars/Machines. Both Ratchet and Prowl's troubled pasts were quit often highlighted through the series. And with Ratchet, we got to see him severely beat down Lockdown for revenge because of what he did to him and Arcee during the war. I know I haven't seen anything along those lines since Beast Wars. Give it a chance, you'll be surprised.


What a bummer it's over for good, this show was light years beyond the schlock that was the Unicron Trilogy. Hopefully the next series when it happens doesn't suck.

Life no longer has meaning.

I know im going to get banned for this.

To all you troll who think it sucked, SHUT UP! Go back to your corner WHINING on how it was NOT like G1 because thats all you can do! Yes Animated looked really weird and childish, but I guess it was the point. It was strange but I got over it and enjoyed the show.

Let us remember each Transformers cartoon for their quality and what they brought to the franchise. I could even go on about RID and the Unicron Trilogy, shows I despise and think they are horrible. Yet im sure they left their mark on the franchise.

Animated was designed to be childish, but was it really? I ask you people. To me, a show is childish if it treat its viewers likr morons, if it has no plot, no storyline.

G1 was nothing but repetitive storyline. The character had no depth (sorry to say this, but G1 Optimus Prime was rather dull). They added character when they feeled like it, or rather when hasbro needed to advertise a new line like the Dinobots. Generally, they just came out of nowhere or something. Im not saying this was always the case, but most of the time the addition of new character was poorly done.

The plot repeated itself all the freakin time! Megatron ALWAYS retreated, Starscream ALWAYS attempted to overthrow him and so on. I don't think that doing the same thing each episode make a good villain. On a final verdict, G1 Megatron was boring.

I know this is a somewhat incoherent rant, and I apologise. All this is something that need to come out. I know some will scream "ANIMATED FANBOI" but I disagree. Fan, yes! Fanboy, no! A fanboy can't see the flaws of the thing he like. I see the flaws in Animated.

I think Animated was a rather dark show at times. Pick ANY episode with Ratchet and his war flashbacks. It wasn't childish. It was a well written show HIDING behind a childish appearance. It had a plot that made sense even if it was about giant transforming alien robots. The character had personnality, something that was rare (but NOT unheard of) in G1. We can see a really goo deal character development.

All im saying was: Animated was TV Show, not JUST a 30-minute toy commercial.

I ask you all, and answer me honestly: G1 and Animated, which one was the most chidlish?

So was last weeks episode the last one? It seemed like it. Im upset only because we never got that Arcee figure that was shown or the new Rodimus i heard a rumor about. Id rather have Animated then have to deal with bayformers again. Lets hope the next show is more like Beast Wars and us older fans wont feel stupid watching it. I know the target demo are the kids but come on you dont have to make it look like they drew it. Still say get the GIJOE Resolute guys to do it and make it CGI.

Megatron_Wolf wrote:So was last weeks episode the last one? It seemed like it. Im upset only because we never got that Arcee figure that was shown or the new Rodimus i heard a rumor about. Id rather have Animated then have to deal with bayformers again. Lets hope the next show is more like Beast Wars and us older fans wont feel stupid watching it. I know the target demo are the kids but come on you dont have to make it look like they drew it. Still say get the GIJOE Resolute guys to do it and make it CGI.

the only problem i found was the animation....makes me wonder how awsome it wouldve been with a more classics look??? actually i dont wanna think about it because ill end up miserable that it never happened lol

Doesnt make sense.isnt Hasbro gonna need a series after the movie?

Good. I hope the next one is a whole lot better and nothing like animated.

Nico wrote:I know im going to get banned for this.

To all you troll who think it sucked, SHUT UP! Go back to your corner WHINING on how it was NOT like G1 because thats all you can do! Yes Animated looked really weird and childish, but I guess it was the point. It was strange but I got over it and enjoyed the show.

Let us remember each Transformers cartoon for their quality and what they brought to the franchise. I could even go on about RID and the Unicron Trilogy, shows I despise and think they are horrible. Yet im sure they left their mark on the franchise.

Animated was designed to be childish, but was it really? I ask you people. To me, a show is childish if it treat its viewers likr morons, if it has no plot, no storyline.

G1 was nothing but repetitive storyline. The character had no depth (sorry to say this, but G1 Optimus Prime was rather dull). They added character when they feeled like it, or rather when hasbro needed to advertise a new line like the Dinobots. Generally, they just came out of nowhere or something. Im not saying this was always the case, but most of the time the addition of new character was poorly done.

The plot repeated itself all the freakin time! Megatron ALWAYS retreated, Starscream ALWAYS attempted to overthrow him and so on. I don't think that doing the same thing each episode make a good villain. On a final verdict, G1 Megatron was boring.

I know this is a somewhat incoherent rant, and I apologise. All this is something that need to come out. I know some will scream "ANIMATED FANBOI" but I disagree. Fan, yes! Fanboy, no! A fanboy can't see the flaws of the thing he like. I see the flaws in Animated.

I think Animated was a rather dark show at times. Pick ANY episode with Ratchet and his war flashbacks. It wasn't childish. It was a well written show HIDING behind a childish appearance. It had a plot that made sense even if it was about giant transforming alien robots. The character had personnality, something that was rare (but NOT unheard of) in G1. We can see a really goo deal character development.

All im saying was: Animated was TV Show, not JUST a 30-minute toy commercial.

I ask you all, and answer me honestly: G1 and Animated, which one was the most chidlish?

I salute you for telling the truth.

well, at lest most of the main characters are still alive.

Hard Hacker wrote:

Nico wrote:I know im going to get banned for this.

To all you troll who think it sucked, SHUT UP! Go back to your corner WHINING on how it was NOT like G1 because thats all you can do! Yes Animated looked really weird and childish, but I guess it was the point. It was strange but I got over it and enjoyed the show.

Let us remember each Transformers cartoon for their quality and what they brought to the franchise. I could even go on about RID and the Unicron Trilogy, shows I despise and think they are horrible. Yet im sure they left their mark on the franchise.

Animated was designed to be childish, but was it really? I ask you people. To me, a show is childish if it treat its viewers likr morons, if it has no plot, no storyline.

G1 was nothing but repetitive storyline. The character had no depth (sorry to say this, but G1 Optimus Prime was rather dull). They added character when they feeled like it, or rather when hasbro needed to advertise a new line like the Dinobots. Generally, they just came out of nowhere or something. Im not saying this was always the case, but most of the time the addition of new character was poorly done.

The plot repeated itself all the freakin time! Megatron ALWAYS retreated, Starscream ALWAYS attempted to overthrow him and so on. I don't think that doing the same thing each episode make a good villain. On a final verdict, G1 Megatron was boring.

I know this is a somewhat incoherent rant, and I apologise. All this is something that need to come out. I know some will scream "ANIMATED FANBOI" but I disagree. Fan, yes! Fanboy, no! A fanboy can't see the flaws of the thing he like. I see the flaws in Animated.

I think Animated was a rather dark show at times. Pick ANY episode with Ratchet and his war flashbacks. It wasn't childish. It was a well written show HIDING behind a childish appearance. It had a plot that made sense even if it was about giant transforming alien robots. The character had personnality, something that was rare (but NOT unheard of) in G1. We can see a really goo deal character development.

All im saying was: Animated was TV Show, not JUST a 30-minute toy commercial.

I ask you all, and answer me honestly: G1 and Animated, which one was the most chidlish?

I salute you for telling the truth.

True,no seires is perfect and thats includes G1.

mitchsantona wrote:Seems to me Animated has a huge fan base. I guess that doesn't really matter much to Hasbro. I'll take the cartoony look of Animated over the backward, chicken legged, stocky, long armed, indestinguishable faced, bland color schemes that 90 percent of the movie line has any day. Way to go guys!

Exactly! I don't own a single movie toy, and with the exception of possibily the new Soundwave, I never will. I will only buy him because, let's face, Soundwave rocks, even with Chicken legs, lol.

D-340 wrote:

Burn wrote:
Provided of course it leads to a series with a better style of animation, and hell, a more serious attitude.

Did you actually watch the show, or were you on of the many who decided to hate it based on it's look? The vast majority of TF: Animated's content was incredibly serious. Sure, the few episodes that dealt with human villains were a bit goofy, but they were few and far between. The story telling is very much on par with Beast Wars/Machines. Both Ratchet and Prowl's troubled pasts were quit often highlighted through the series. And with Ratchet, we got to see him severely beat down Lockdown for revenge because of what he did to him and Arcee during the war. I know I haven't seen anything along those lines since Beast Wars. Give it a chance, you'll be surprised.


What a bummer it's over for good, this show was light years beyond the schlock that was the Unicron Trilogy. Hopefully the next series when it happens doesn't suck.

Excellent points. I was one of the ones who couldn't possibly watch that show with it's goofy, "Buzz Lightyear" chins, and "goofy" animation. Then I watched a couple episodes. Far better than any of the other series, imho. Although I am pretty much solely a G1 guy, the original G1 cartoons are pretty repetitive with less rewatch value. Beast Wars' Cgi was just plain creepy.

All in all, for those that haven't actually watched all 3 seasons, do yourself a favor and watch them.

To those that asked, I believe that "Endgame part 1 and 2" were the final episodes.

I still have yet to see anything that points a finger at who made the call.

If its Hasbro, then again they have shown the level of misunderstanding of their consumer base.
If its Cartoon Network, then this isn't the first time they have dropped the ball so it's no surprise.
If it was a joint decision than that is a lot of faith that will need repairing.

I honestly hope that this was the move of CN, and that Hasbro has retained enough control with the series that if they want to relook at the series on their new channel they can.

Now can we please get the 3 seasons on DVD in widevision as they were produced? It's the only reason I haven't picked them up so far.

TulioDude wrote:Doesnt make sense.isnt Hasbro gonna need a series after the movie?

Hasbro will need something after the movie right?

Animated was the best TF cartoon series ever written, in my humble opinion. I actually just watched all of Beast Wars' 52 episodes during the past 3 weeks with my kids, and although it was pretty well written, I still feel it does not hold wait to Animated (minus some of the episodes from Season 1 of Animated).

And for those who felt Animated was childish... did you forget how Beast Wars would have the predacons bouncing from rock to rock sometimes when they were shot at and hit. If that wasn't child humor, then I don't know what was. Not saying it's bad to have the mixed in with everything else... but saying Beast Wars had it's kid-oriented stuff too and yet many people here will respect that and yet not Animated? I just don't get that.

Anyway, it's a shame Animated is ending after only 3 seasons. I'm guessing some potential viewers never gave it a chance due to its animation style (like I had for some time) and due to it being on at 8am. I have no idea how well or poor the toys sold compared to previous TF cartoon toys, so I can't speak about that.

RIP Animated. You will be missed by many.

And for those of you who keep wishing for a "mature" TF show... keep dreaming. I don't see it happening. Sorry to be blunt.

After reading all this, I believe that we should have a poll count between those who are for Animated and those who are against Animated, just to see which side is larger.

But each person wouldn't just be able to say that they like/dislike Animated. They would have to give at least one reason for their view on the series.

Examples:
* I am for Animated because...
* I am against Animated because...
* I like Animated because...
* I don't like/dislike/hate Animated because...

I just want to point to a certain fact: I said I got over Animated arstyle, not that I LIKED it. It wasn't bad, it was...interresting.

Some character looked good, other dint. (This is especially true for cameo characters) I think the main cast looked rather good (despite the overall weirdness) and their huge chin

Where the fuck is my Supreme Class TF Animated Omega Supreme!?!

Covenant wrote::-x Where the **** is my Supreme Class TF Animated Omega Supreme!?!

Good point, even if im not a collector.

Hi guys!!! Long time lurker here, but I had to chime in on this!!!

I started out like most of us fanboys, grumbling and groaning at the cheesy cartoony style when I saw the first sketches released. I proceeded to give the show a chance, taking it with a grain of salt. Anyways after I started watching the series I actually found myself ENJOYING it. As the show progressed the g-1ness that was splashed here and there at 1st in grew to full on cameo sequences of big time battles and victory parade proportions. So yea, long story short I became a fan, and my Tivo got quite the workout taping every episode each morning. It's sad to see it come to an end, but I am ready and eager to move on to the next. I'm hoping they take a leap forwards and not backwards, and do some sweet CGI full stuff like Beastmachines was (without all the Organic-formers). Although recently Hasbro has kinda shown a devolution with thier technology. (I mean Devastator can have 6 robot, 6 vehichle, & 1 combiner mode in the 80's... Can't do it now??? C'MON!!)http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/posting.php?mode=reply&f=23&t=53568#

The bottom line is, first and foremost, it's for the kids!!! Face it all this stuff is. It was made for kids, back when we were kids and fell in love with it. But on the other hand, most of us are not kids anymore. Would we like to see a more mature Transformers series??? I for one say HECK Yes!!! I really enjoyed the new G.I. Joe Resolute series. How great would it be to live in a world where I could get up on Saturday morning and watch a cutesy cartoony Transformers show with my nephew, then later that night, indulge in some dirty, gritty, bot battling action!!!

alas poor animated, i watched it everyweek. tho i didn't start watching it till about half way threw season 2, i've caught the older episodes and it is a really good show. it balanced its dark and brooding with lightharted stuff, alot like teen titans.

I liked the toys , but lets face it kids werent watchin it only us fans.
I thought it was too childish for me.

Covenant wrote::-x Where the **** is my Supreme Class TF Animated Omega Supreme!?!

Not happening! As it was stated a long time ago.

Same goes for the Constructicons.

i think people are looking at this the wrong way. I was under the impression (according to cartoon network anyway) that the shows rateings were very good.

I think the reason the show was canned is kinda obvious. Hasbro did just sign a deal to make thier own childrens network with discovery channel, and if they wanted to air thier own tf show on that channel, they couldnt do so while it was being created and controlled by cartoon network studios, which is a turner network. I think thats why animated was suddenly canned.

That being said, I hated the character designs at first, just as much as I hate the movie robot designs, but the shows story was incredible, while it did have some goofy kiddieness here and there, it also had some very dark serious adult content as well. definatly the best since beastwars

hell blurrs death had to be the most graphic and greusom death since the the g1 animated movie.

and the toys were fun toys (yes i play with my toys, leave me alone.) barring a few QA issues here and there, they were constantly fun to pick up and play with.

and the shows kiddieness was no worse that waspinator getting blown to scrap 5 times an episode, or dinobot running into a tree and flattening out like a pancake, then falling slowly like a leaf, of bw megatron turning into the tazmanian devil... or optimus prime saying boobies..... yes... i went there.

in closeing, I have to agree with the sentiment, heres hopeing that what comes next is better.

Immortal Starscream wrote:blurrs death had to be the most graphic and greusom death since the the g1 animated movie.

Blurr might not be dead, as his spark was still intact.

Good riddance. The animation was terrible. I tried to get past that, but the storyline portrays perhaps the most stoic character of all time, as a hapless leader not in charge of anything but a ragtag group. Optimus Prime was no politician, he was a (George) patton.

Could it be possible we may see a follow up after the movie. The way armada ended and energon began. Heck maybe then we will see all the toys it looks like we are going to miss out on(Im looking at you arcee).