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BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed

Transformers News: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed

Friday, May 9th, 2014 10:04AM CDT

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The official Transformers Facebook page has posted a BotCon related update! Take a look below if you will at the lovely 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art, courtesy of the excellent Robby Musso, and featuring Cannonball, Ferak, Devcon, Fire Guts Ginrai and Scorponok with the Headmaster Olin Zarak!

BotCon 2014 arrives in Pasadena on June 19th, but we have a look at the AMAZING box art for this year's convention box set for you today! Registration for BotCon is about to begin so be sure to visit http://www.botcon.com for all the details!


Transformers News: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed
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Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572546)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2014 @ 10:07am CDT
Box art fit for an anniversary, right there. =P~
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572548)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 10:10am CDT
Diggin' it.

Also, RIP to the UT era Transformers logo, looks like even on Botcon sets we're movin' on to the new one.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572550)
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2014 @ 10:16am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Diggin' it.

Also, RIP to the UT era Transformers logo, looks like even on Botcon sets we're movin' on to the new one.


Is it not all to align with official Hasbro products..? For convenience, I mean.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572556)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 10:25am CDT
Va'al wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Diggin' it.

Also, RIP to the UT era Transformers logo, looks like even on Botcon sets we're movin' on to the new one.


Is it not all to align with official Hasbro products..? For convenience, I mean.


Yep, it makes sense. I just dug that old-ish one.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572558)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 9th, 2014 @ 10:28am CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Va'al wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Diggin' it.

Also, RIP to the UT era Transformers logo, looks like even on Botcon sets we're movin' on to the new one.


Is it not all to align with official Hasbro products..? For convenience, I mean.


Yep, it makes sense. I just dug that old-ish one.


Same. I really liked the old design. It was a good'un.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572567)
Posted by triKlops on May 9th, 2014 @ 10:49am CDT
Looks great; hopefully registration goes up soon and I can get my package purchase completed.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572571)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 9th, 2014 @ 10:59am CDT
Looks really cool. I'd like a peek inside to see how the figures are arranged. I'm guessing the 4 smaller 1s in vehicle mode while Scorponok is in 'bot mode. (And Fox, better be on your game! :twisted: )
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572579)
Posted by Rated X on May 9th, 2014 @ 11:15am CDT
They should have put a bottle of rum....
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572592)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2014 @ 12:22pm CDT
https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/464806287633838082
We are gonna show you a close up here to really drive home how detailed this art is... All courtesy of Robby Musso! pic.twitter.com/Dmh8vco9j9

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https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/464807633678266368
The time he put in to this? Just wow. Can't WAIT for fans to get this item! #BotCon2014 #PVK http://www.botcon.com pic.twitter.com/h322FTpIee

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Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572602)
Posted by necr0blivion on May 9th, 2014 @ 12:50pm CDT
Beautiful, now put up that order! = )
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572615)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on May 9th, 2014 @ 1:47pm CDT
I like it.

I'd like it even more if they would have just marketed this set as a classics set. Get rid of the silly theme and made up faction symbols. I'm very thankful Scorponok & Devcon were made that way.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572616)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2014 @ 1:49pm CDT
Doctor McGrath wrote:I'd like it even more if they would have just marketed this set as a classics set.
They can't do that. They destroyed the Classicsverse. These are Wings Universe toys.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572618)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 1:49pm CDT
Doctor McGrath wrote:I like it.

I'd like it even more if they would have just marketed this set as a classics set. Get rid of the silly theme and made up faction symbols. I'm very thankful Scorponok & Devcon were made that way.


You do know that the Star Seeker symbol is already on the Thundertron RID Prime figure, right?

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Only the Knights emblem is new.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572619)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 1:51pm CDT
Doctor McGrath wrote:I like it.

I'd like it even more if they would have just marketed this set as a classics set. Get rid of the silly theme and made up faction symbols. I'm very thankful Scorponok & Devcon were made that way.


I'm cool with Cannonball's symbol. I can get over Ginrai's, it's whatever, but yeah I'd have rather it just have been an Autobot symbol.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572624)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on May 9th, 2014 @ 2:05pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:I'd like it even more if they would have just marketed this set as a classics set.
They can't do that. They destroyed the Classicsverse. These are Wings Universe toys.


I'm not interested in their fiction either. I've tried, just can't get into it.
Midnight_Fox wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:I like it.

I'd like it even more if they would have just marketed this set as a classics set. Get rid of the silly theme and made up faction symbols. I'm very thankful Scorponok & Devcon were made that way.


You do know that the Star Seeker symbol is already on the Thundertron RID Prime figure, right?

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Only the Knights emblem is new.


Yes, I do.


ScottyP wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:I like it.

I'd like it even more if they would have just marketed this set as a classics set. Get rid of the silly theme and made up faction symbols. I'm very thankful Scorponok & Devcon were made that way.


I'm cool with Cannonball's symbol. I can get over Ginrai's, it's whatever, but yeah I'd have rather it just have been an Autobot symbol.


Yeah, i see your point. Cannonball works for sure. I'd be more ok with Ginrai if the symbol on the wind-vane wasn't so big. I get they were going for the shield look but man is it huge. I'd been more accepting of the knight symbols on his shoulder & a regular bot logo on the "shield." Then it could be more of like a cop's badge or a Rodimus star instead of him screaming, "hey!!! I'm a knight, see!" Haha.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572634)
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2014 @ 2:59pm CDT
Now that is a great looking box! I'm still not a fan of Ferak and Ginrai and I'm on the fence about Cannonball, but my buddy Robby's artwork here looks absolutely amazing. He is truly one of the all-time great Transformers artists. This box is a HUGE improvement over the 2009, 2011 and 2013 sets.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572636)
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2014 @ 3:08pm CDT
More BotCon 2014 news comes in, and we're still on the artistic streak. After the exclusive set box art reveal earlier, the Botcon Twitter account has shown a picture of the official 2014 convention t-shirt, featuring Scorponok! Check it out below.

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Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572637)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 3:14pm CDT
Who else is just chillin out waiting for registration right now? Gotta be soon, right? Hell if they wait too many more hours we'll be registering live on the Twincast :HEADHURTS:
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572639)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 3:21pm CDT
I've been F5'ing as hard as my fingers and keyboard will allow and I have tabs open for Botcon's Facebook and twitter to check any updates.

Today has been less than productive.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572640)
Posted by shockblast2 on May 9th, 2014 @ 3:23pm CDT
Fire Guts Ginrai


What a great name. I mean, forget Optimus Prime. Why would you want a subpar name like that when you could have Fire Guts. I wonder if its a nickname, like Tommy "Fingers" Magee or Johnny "Shades" Waters?
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572644)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on May 9th, 2014 @ 3:30pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Fire Guts Ginrai


What a great name. I mean, forget Optimus Prime. Why would you want a subpar name like that when you could have Fire Guts. I wonder if its a nickname, like Tommy "Fingers" Magee or Johnny "Shades" Waters?


Nah, Ginrai just has a bad case of heart burn :lol:
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572648)
Posted by shockblast2 on May 9th, 2014 @ 3:44pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Fire Guts Ginrai


What a great name. I mean, forget Optimus Prime. Why would you want a subpar name like that when you could have Fire Guts. I wonder if its a nickname, like Tommy "Fingers" Magee or Johnny "Shades" Waters?


Nah, Ginrai just has a bad case of heart burn :lol:



Wow. I would hate to see what they would have called him if it were Slider night on the Ark....... :SICK:

:D
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572649)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on May 9th, 2014 @ 3:52pm CDT
Ginrai makes me wonder though, is he:

1) a Transtector (originally meant for Optimus Prime) given life by a human
2) a born Transformer, but a sufferer of Primus apotheosis
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572652)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 4:24pm CDT
Twitter states "Stay near a computer"
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572653)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 4:30pm CDT
It's live, but NOT for Non-Attendees like the Facebook stated it would be.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572655)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 4:35pm CDT
Sweet, got in for me and Razorclaw0000's sets, custom figs, LA tour, even a shirt. Glad that's over with, no more sitting at the computer for a few hours now!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572659)
Posted by El Duque on May 9th, 2014 @ 4:42pm CDT
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Registration is now live for those planning to attend BotCon 2014 in Pasadena, California! You can take a look at this year's brochure and package matrix by clicking here. Click here to get started.

For those who plan to purchase non-attendee packages registration will open sometime next week.

As always, the staff of Seibertron.com looks forward to seeing all of you there!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572660)
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2014 @ 4:58pm CDT
Golden Ticket registered, plane ticket booked ... see you guys in 40 days! Can't wait!!!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572661)
Posted by ILL-Star on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:01pm CDT
Typical. Making non-attendees wait till the next week again. It's probably for understandable reasons, but I'm getting real tired of it none the less. :BANG_HEAD:
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572664)
Posted by MGrotusque on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:06pm CDT
There's a little too much "transformer" going on with that t-shirt. Nerd city.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572665)
Posted by Mkall on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:09pm CDT
I'm all registered. I'll see you all there!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572667)
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:12pm CDT
ILL-Star wrote:Typical. Making non-attendees wait till the next week again. It's probably for understandable reasons, but I'm getting real tired of it none the less. :BANG_HEAD:


Attendees should get first dibs so that all of those people who already have plane tickets and hotel reservations are able to get the convention exclusives and opportunities they want. I'm surprised they even have a non-attendee package ... to the best of my knowledge, most conventions of this nature don't offer anything like that.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572668)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:15pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
ILL-Star wrote:Typical. Making non-attendees wait till the next week again. It's probably for understandable reasons, but I'm getting real tired of it none the less. :BANG_HEAD:


Attendees should get first dibs so that all of those people who already have plane tickets and hotel reservations are able to get the convention exclusives and opportunities they want. I'm surprised they even have a non-attendee package ... to the best of my knowledge, most conventions of this nature don't offer anything like that.


The delay is due to a problem with their connection to FedEx.

That said, I see it all the time for gaming conventions, though most exclusives in that case aren't done through the convention itself but at the booths for the specific producer and a number are held for webstore sales.

For example, for Gencon last year, Privateer Press produced 1000 10th Anniversary sets. 250 or so were set aside for the webstore(it was a hassle to get those, too) with 750 brought to the event for sale there.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572671)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:31pm CDT
That Devcon is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure SWEET!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572672)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:49pm CDT
What kind of registration invoice numbers y'all got? I'm 6877, haven't seen a lower one yet but with my hamfisting Candace's password three times I'm sure I wasn't dead on first.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572677)
Posted by jprime69 on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:01pm CDT
I'm in! See you all there!!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572683)
Posted by Henry921 on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:38pm CDT
Not until next week for non-attendee sets?! :BANG_HEAD:

Well I guess only the people going will get bagged sets to go with...
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572684)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:45pm CDT
Yeah, bagged sets are sold out apparently. Crazy quick!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572686)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
IIRC, they stated there would be fewer bagged sets than previous years. Not surprising they're gone already.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572705)
Posted by Air Commander Starscream on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:36pm CDT
Registered see you all there!
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572707)
Posted by Flashwave on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:46pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:IIRC, they stated there would be fewer bagged sets than previous years. Not surprising they're gone already.


Shame, with Scorpy they could print money, pay for next year's convention. But then he wouldnt be exclusive. God ai wish I had money...
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572711)
Posted by Diem on May 9th, 2014 @ 9:18pm CDT
Woo, excited to be registered! Who all is coming to Cali-forn-I-ay?

That box is beautiful but that shirt, though pretty, is too nerdy to wear outside of BotCon. They should have stuck with the 2011 design philosophy of shirts you can wear anyday.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572720)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2014 @ 11:22pm CDT
Registered! Primus Package + assemble custom class figure.


shockblast2 wrote:Fire Guts Ginrai


What a great name. I mean, forget Optimus Prime. Why would you want a subpar name like that when you could have Fire Guts. I wonder if its a nickname, like Tommy "Fingers" Magee or Johnny "Shades" Waters?
I really really wish people would stop calling him that.

This toy is just "Ginrai". The old "Fire Guts" toy deco is being used as his standard form deco this time. While he can likely still power up for his attacks, he'll be an orange & red bot on fire this time instead of a red & blue one on fire. There is no need to refer to his non-powered form by his attack powered form name this time.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572725)
Posted by Rated X on May 9th, 2014 @ 11:54pm CDT
Im skipping this year. I didnt like the pasadena vibe back in 2011. Ill attempt to buy a non attendee set but im not gonna kill myself staying glued to a computer screen. If I cant get one, ill just get it on ebay and help some poor scalper pay his monthly electric bill. And I dont see nothing nerdy about the shirt. Its black and has a nice throwback G1 style drawing. Just rock some black sweatpants and a fresh pair of Nikes and that shirt can go anywhere. A shirt doesnt make someone look nerd. Not having swag is what makes someone look nerd.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572726)
Posted by Diem on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:10am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Registered! Primus Package + assemble custom class figure.


This toy is just "Ginrai". The old "Fire Guts" toy deco is being used as his standard form deco this time. While he can likely still power up for his attacks, he'll be an orange & red bot on fire this time instead of a red & blue one on fire. There is no need to refer to his non-powered form by his attack powered form name this time.


Sorry Sabr but I'm calling foul on this. All we know so far is that canon-wise the toy is just called Ginrai, which isn't especially meaningful (unless we're all calling Tracks "Turbo Tracks" nowadays). Until the comic comes out I don't think we can call it; but I see it going one of three ways:

A) This character's origin is unrelated to Masterforce and he has always been orange - sure, he's plain Ginrai

B) This character is Masterforce Ginrai or has an analogous origin, and is now permanently or temporarily orange - then he's bloody Fire Guts Ginrai.

C) This character's origin is unrelated to Masterforce but the orange represents a powered up form - then unless they name him something different he's still bloody Fire Guts Ginrai.

While I appreciate that the letter of the law here is that his name is just Ginrai the spirit of law shows that he is deliberately designed to be intentionally evocative of a specific incarnation of the character Ginrai.

This all said I look forward to arguing with you in person! See you there man.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572727)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:24am CDT
It's the Wings Universe, so the Japanese cartoons don't exist in this continuity. He's even given an original character bio in the BotCon brochure:
AUTOBOT KNIGHT GINRAI – He is the gruff, pragmatic and downright paranoid military leader of the Autobots/Maximals. An old-school warrior “Bot of Action”, Ginrai has earned the rank of Knight Commander. A veteran of the old conflicts, he’s not entirely comfortable with the peace, constantly waiting for the “other shoe to drop”.
So Option B is out.

I'm leaning towards Option A since we see him seemingly casually orange here:

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No glowing aura effect or anything to signify a powered up form.

Not like he's seen here, which is him powered up:

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So we have two pics in which he is orange, one of him not glowing/fired up, and the other of him glowing/fired up. Suggesting that he's orange no matter what.


Though, let's not kid ourselves here, since he obviously wasn't orange when using his attack in Masterforce, either. He was just engulfed in orange flames without an actual color change to his body. :P

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Diem wrote:This all said I look forward to arguing with you in person! See you there man.
LOL, I'm looking forward to seeing everyone, too. This is gonna be an awesome BotCon. :DANCE:
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572734)
Posted by mooncake623 on May 10th, 2014 @ 1:10am CDT
Rated X wrote:Im skipping this year. I didnt like the pasadena vibe back in 2011. Ill attempt to buy a non attendee set but im not gonna kill myself staying glued to a computer screen. If I cant get one, ill just get it on ebay and help some poor scalper pay his monthly electric bill. And I dont see nothing nerdy about the shirt. Its black and has a nice throwback G1 style drawing. Just rock some black sweatpants and a fresh pair of Nikes and that shirt can go anywhere. A shirt doesnt make someone look nerd. Not having swag is what makes someone look nerd.


Haha. yea I'm going to do the same. Ebay if i cant get it on the site.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572765)
Posted by Windsweeper on May 10th, 2014 @ 7:40am CDT
What I like about this set is that how much Ferak looks like my KO oversized white Cyclonus. Always nice when a repaint is an actual new character.

Love the new head on Scorponok. I'd love to see it on my old G1 Scorpy.
Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572768)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 7:51am CDT
Windsweeper wrote:What I like about this set is that how much Ferak looks like my KO oversized white Cyclonus. Always nice when a repaint is an actual new character.
Technically, he's no more new a character than Devcon. He was in the Marvel G1 comics issue "The Smelting Pool!" and reappeared in the IDW comic mini-series "Last Stand of the Wreckers".

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Re: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Box Art by Robby Musso Revealed (1572770)
Posted by shajaki on May 10th, 2014 @ 8:21am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Yeah, bagged sets are sold out apparently. Crazy quick!
wait what? the loose sets are sold out? arent those for the non attendees, which can register for another week?

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