Combining Weapon Gimmick in Legacy Core Class Confirmed
Wednesday, January 19th, 2022 8:32AM CST
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Also, another fun tidbit that fans noticed with yesterday's news was the placement of the wheels in Iguanus' robot mode. It pays homage to how the inner robot looked like, as you will see below.
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Posted by MaximalNui on January 19th, 2022 @ 9:08am CST
Given were the wheels are in bot mode, do you think he might be remolded into Laser Cycle Road Rocket/RiD2001 Sideways/G2 Jazz? It would certainly fit the Energon weapon gimmick (then again, the Core class weapons seem to be normal weapons, so...)
Tuned Agent wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Core Class Sari would be an instant purchase, take my money.Sentinel_Primal wrote:I just had a possibly weird idea, but what if we got Sari from Animated reimagined as a Pretender like this Iguanus? So she'd look like her upgraded form in bot mode and maybe give her a scooter alt mode to reference her jetpack. She'd be a bit too big for proper Animated scale, but if they made her a full Cybertronian like they have with Minerva, I don't see any issue with it.
Grahf_ wrote:I was just thinking of this the other day. I was also thinking similar things for armored Kicker, armored Verity and Apex Armor Miko as well. So you could have Daniel, Spike (assuming he gets his own figure), Sari, Kicker, Verity and Miko all armored up. If it's easy to open up the armors and swap the pilots then you can purchase multiples and change them out for anyone provided someone makes them. Marissa? Carly? Sparkplug? Raul? Chip? Alexis? Fowler? Jack? Raph? Maybe even figures for T-AI, Artemis and even Alice that could also transform into vehicles/animals. Although I don't exactly know how Alice would work if she looked like her human mode.
We're probably just lucky we're getting an exosuit though. It's just a way to keep the core class going longer. Just sprinkle in a few here and there while they do core sized figures for popular characters and the few characters that they'll do that need to be that size.
Sentinel_Primal wrote:That, or make her a Brainmaster with the brain figure taking cues from her design and the faceplate being her armored face, and then she plugs into the robot body. Plus, you could repaint this version into an "Apex Armor" figure and use the brainmaster as Miko for Selects. The major advantage I think to making Sari a Brainmaster-styled figure would be that we'd get a smaller section that'd be good for referencing how small she was and make the armor seem a lot more important. That and it'd add to playability of the future Brainmasters (that I seriously hope are coming to compliment Victory Saber and the rumored Deathsaurus)
Pretty much my thoughts too. I could also add Coby and the Cobybot/Scrapmetal, Animated Headmaster, the Battlesuits from Marvel UK comics, the IDW crash suits and Cybernoughts, Jan and the Illumina II (or the other Victories, for that matter), Cylas and Circuit Breaker with or without her Frankensteined battle suit (oh, right, rights issue ... Marvel hasn't done anything with her for years, shouldn't it have expired by now?). And if they planned another crossover or intra-company Collaborative, the G.I. Joe mechs from the Devil's Due Press crossover.
noctorro wrote:Ontopic, Iguanus looks awesome! I would love to see more TF's that have a humanoid beast mode as robot mode. I like the idea!
I'd like that too, but probably a bit more evened out, like having some beast-looking bots on the Autobot's side as well. Most of the time the non-human designs end up entirely on the Decepticon side (take movies 2007 to TLK and RiD2015, for example), which makes them look more like different species than two factions.
william-james88 wrote:--snip--
Huh, good eye.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 19th, 2022 @ 9:14am CST
At least, not yet, for the sword from Hot Rod/Skywarp/Iguanus, it just doesn't do much for me. What would really suck (and isn't out of the question) is if they just keep using the same 3 parts over and over again across all the core bots.
Posted by Kyleor on January 19th, 2022 @ 11:03am CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 19th, 2022 @ 11:07am CST
(S)Wooop
I'm kinda wanting a road runner collab with skywarps magnet.
Posted by DeathReviews on January 19th, 2022 @ 11:19am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 19th, 2022 @ 11:38am CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on January 19th, 2022 @ 11:44am CST
I think Skywarp should come with the null rays as well. I can't imagine it would have cost hasbro much extra since you'd think they were already in the tooling for Starscream.
Whomever mentioned the Core Class Sari, is brilliant. We're getting Spike, probably get a Daniel, but why not get a Sari too. Sure we're going for G1 characters lately, but out of all the other animated series, Sari was one of the best characters they created, plus she's part cybertronian. It should be a no brainer.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 19th, 2022 @ 12:39pm CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm not a fan of the combining weapons idea like this especially with a sword. I think it'll just look ridiculous overall.
I think Skywarp should come with the null rays as well. I can't imagine it would have cost hasbro much extra since you'd think they were already in the tooling for Starscream.
Whomever mentioned the Core Class Sari, is brilliant. We're getting Spike, probably get a Daniel, but why not get a Sari too. Sure we're going for G1 characters lately, but out of all the other animated series, Sari was one of the best characters they created, plus she's part cybertronian. It should be a no brainer.
Does she have an alt-mode though?
Posted by Sabrblade on January 19th, 2022 @ 12:47pm CST
Yes: Human.AcademyofDrX wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm not a fan of the combining weapons idea like this especially with a sword. I think it'll just look ridiculous overall.
I think Skywarp should come with the null rays as well. I can't imagine it would have cost hasbro much extra since you'd think they were already in the tooling for Starscream.
Whomever mentioned the Core Class Sari, is brilliant. We're getting Spike, probably get a Daniel, but why not get a Sari too. Sure we're going for G1 characters lately, but out of all the other animated series, Sari was one of the best characters they created, plus she's part cybertronian. It should be a no brainer.
Does she have an alt-mode though?
Posted by william-james88 on January 19th, 2022 @ 12:53pm CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Whomever mentioned the Core Class Sari, is brilliant. We're getting Spike, probably get a Daniel, but why not get a Sari too. Sure we're going for G1 characters lately, but out of all the other animated series, Sari was one of the best characters they created, plus she's part cybertronian. It should be a no brainer.
Does she have an alt-mode though?
Just as with Iguanus, her alt mode can be more of an homage to past toys/concepts.
For instance, there was an unproduced Sari toy that was based off of Windblade, so you could have a core class Sari that turns into a jet as an homage to that.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 19th, 2022 @ 3:16pm CST
william-james88 wrote:For instance, there was an unproduced Sari toy that was based off of Windblade, so you could have a core class Sari that turns into a jet as an homage to that.
Was this a lost FunPub/TFCC idea?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 19th, 2022 @ 4:00pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:For instance, there was an unproduced Sari toy that was based off of Windblade, so you could have a core class Sari that turns into a jet as an homage to that.
Was this a lost FunPub/TFCC idea?
That image is from a Japanese publication, so it could also be a TakaraTomy idea, presumably for Legends before being replaced with Slipstream.
Posted by cruizerdave on January 19th, 2022 @ 5:44pm CST
What is the combing weapon gimmick for Legacy, Alex?
Posted by william-james88 on January 19th, 2022 @ 5:51pm CST
cruizerdave wrote:The answer is: Lame.
What is the combing weapon gimmick for Legacy, Alex?
Hahahaha
I feel it's the least intrusive gimmick so far though
Posted by Sabrblade on January 19th, 2022 @ 5:58pm CST
The image was contributed to the Japanese book by former Fun Pub members. It was part of a discarded Fun Pub set idea called "Transformers Unanimated". The concept was to take Animated characters/designs and apply them to molds that lacked the Animated aesthetic. Needless to say, the idea was dropped since it was essentially "taking the Animated out of Animated".Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:For instance, there was an unproduced Sari toy that was based off of Windblade, so you could have a core class Sari that turns into a jet as an homage to that.
Was this a lost FunPub/TFCC idea?
That image is from a Japanese publication, so it could also be a TakaraTomy idea, presumably for Legends before being replaced with Slipstream.
Other concepts in this idea were Universe Inferno as Optimus, Thrilling 30 Brainstorm as Headmaster-controlled Starscream, and Thrilling 30 Trailcutter as Sentinel Prime.
Other pics in the same section of the book show concepts from another discarded Fun Pub idea: "Beast Wars Animated". Animated Sentinel Prime as pre-beast Primal Major, Animated Snarl as Rhinox, Animated Grimlock as Predacon Megatron, etc.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 19th, 2022 @ 8:21pm CST
But what's up with the "Scorponok" weapons on both Skywarp and Iguanus?
Posted by Autobot N on January 19th, 2022 @ 8:27pm CST
They combine with Hot Rod's sword-Kanrabat- wrote:Core Iguanus is brilliant like ROTF Bludgeon. A nice interpretation that takes all the good points of the pretender.
But what's up with the "Scorponok" weapons on both Skywarp and Iguanus?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 19th, 2022 @ 8:29pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Other concepts in this idea were Universe Inferno as Optimus, Thrilling 30 Brainstorm as Headmaster-controlled Starscream, and Thrilling 30 Trailcutter as Sentinel Prime.
Other pics in the same section of the book show concepts from another discarded Fun Pub idea: "Beast Wars Animated". Animated Sentinel Prime as pre-beast Primal Major, Animated Snarl as Rhinox, Animated Grimlock as Predacon Megatron, etc.
These all woulda been amazing to see! Is Sari the only one that made it to digibash phase?
Posted by Sabrblade on January 19th, 2022 @ 8:34pm CST
Nope. All of the ones I mentioned were digibashed. Some (if not all, I'm going off memory here) are found in the book.Sentinel_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Other concepts in this idea were Universe Inferno as Optimus, Thrilling 30 Brainstorm as Headmaster-controlled Starscream, and Thrilling 30 Trailcutter as Sentinel Prime.
Other pics in the same section of the book show concepts from another discarded Fun Pub idea: "Beast Wars Animated". Animated Sentinel Prime as pre-beast Primal Major, Animated Snarl as Rhinox, Animated Grimlock as Predacon Megatron, etc.
These all woulda been amazing to see! Is Sari the only one that made it to digibash phase?
Posted by Emerje on January 19th, 2022 @ 8:38pm CST
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on January 19th, 2022 @ 9:47pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
But what's up with the "Scorponok" weapons on both Skywarp and Iguanus?
I wrote a whole article about it
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... med/46617/
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 19th, 2022 @ 11:16pm CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
But what's up with the "Scorponok" weapons on both Skywarp and Iguanus?
I wrote a whole article about it
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... med/46617/
I know about the "combining gimmick" even if the end result will surely look daff. What I meant is those bits clearly looks like Scorponok's shield part.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on January 20th, 2022 @ 2:56am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Yes: Human.AcademyofDrX wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm not a fan of the combining weapons idea like this especially with a sword. I think it'll just look ridiculous overall.
I think Skywarp should come with the null rays as well. I can't imagine it would have cost hasbro much extra since you'd think they were already in the tooling for Starscream.
Whomever mentioned the Core Class Sari, is brilliant. We're getting Spike, probably get a Daniel, but why not get a Sari too. Sure we're going for G1 characters lately, but out of all the other animated series, Sari was one of the best characters they created, plus she's part cybertronian. It should be a no brainer.
Does she have an alt-mode though?
She did have a scooter as I recall that transformed to give her a jet pack, so a bike mode could be used, or as others mentioned a jet mode. Maybe they could even get creative with it.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 20th, 2022 @ 4:22am CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yes: Human.AcademyofDrX wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm not a fan of the combining weapons idea like this especially with a sword. I think it'll just look ridiculous overall.
I think Skywarp should come with the null rays as well. I can't imagine it would have cost hasbro much extra since you'd think they were already in the tooling for Starscream.
Whomever mentioned the Core Class Sari, is brilliant. We're getting Spike, probably get a Daniel, but why not get a Sari too. Sure we're going for G1 characters lately, but out of all the other animated series, Sari was one of the best characters they created, plus she's part cybertronian. It should be a no brainer.
Does she have an alt-mode though?
She did have a scooter as I recall that transformed to give her a jet pack, so a bike mode could be used, or as others mentioned a jet mode. Maybe they could even get creative with it.
My ideal is now a horrifying monstrosity, aka a triple changing core class Sari with jet AND scooter modes!
I'm joking obviously, my ideal is just that we get her, don't even care about alt mode
Posted by Emerje on January 20th, 2022 @ 7:13am CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:My ideal is now a horrifying monstrosity, aka a triple changing core class Sari with jet AND scooter modes!
I'm joking obviously, my ideal is just that we get her, don't even care about alt mode
Actually, what they could do is have a figure with a scooter that doubles as a jet pack and then the two combine into the jet mode. It would be very Micronauts.
Emerje
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 20th, 2022 @ 11:47am CST
Emerje wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:My ideal is now a horrifying monstrosity, aka a triple changing core class Sari with jet AND scooter modes!
I'm joking obviously, my ideal is just that we get her, don't even care about alt mode
Actually, what they could do is have a figure with a scooter that doubles as a jet pack and then the two combine into the jet mode. It would be very Micronauts.
Emerje
Great, now I want a Sari figure too, thanks for nothing everyone
Posted by SpaceEagle on January 20th, 2022 @ 1:27pm CST
Posted by bluecalamity on January 20th, 2022 @ 11:06pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 22nd, 2022 @ 5:02pm CST
I also want a core class Sari. She is long overdue a toy
Posted by sol magnus on January 25th, 2022 @ 1:28pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on January 25th, 2022 @ 1:39pm CST
sol magnus wrote:PvP is back at it with Legacy Laser Optimus Prime -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-k3hGGXqo
The hands are a bit disappointing, but otherwise he looks fantastic. Can't wait to get mine.
Posted by sol magnus on January 25th, 2022 @ 1:45pm CST
Overcracker wrote:sol magnus wrote:PvP is back at it with Legacy Laser Optimus Prime -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-k3hGGXqo
The hands are a bit disappointing, but otherwise he looks fantastic. Can't wait to get mine.
I'll be holding out for Black Convoy, but I admit he's impressive enough that I'm tempted.
Posted by Overcracker on January 25th, 2022 @ 1:59pm CST
sol magnus wrote:Overcracker wrote:sol magnus wrote:PvP is back at it with Legacy Laser Optimus Prime -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-k3hGGXqo
The hands are a bit disappointing, but otherwise he looks fantastic. Can't wait to get mine.
I'll be holding out for Black Convoy, but I admit he's impressive enough that I'm tempted.
As much as I'd like Black Convoy, I fear he'll be hard to get being a U.S Walmart Exclusive. Unless Amazon.mx manages to get some over here (like they did with the Headmasters and OG BW figures), he'll probably be impossibly expensive to get on the secondary market.
Posted by sol magnus on January 25th, 2022 @ 2:02pm CST
Overcracker wrote:sol magnus wrote:Overcracker wrote:sol magnus wrote:PvP is back at it with Legacy Laser Optimus Prime -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-k3hGGXqo
The hands are a bit disappointing, but otherwise he looks fantastic. Can't wait to get mine.
I'll be holding out for Black Convoy, but I admit he's impressive enough that I'm tempted.
As much as I'd like Black Convoy, I fear he'll be hard to get being a U.S Walmart Exclusive. Unless Amazon.mx manages to get some over here (like they did with the Headmasters and OG BW figures), he'll probably be impossibly expensive to get on the secondary market.
Hit me up if they release him on Pulse, I'll get you one. No one has free will in your reality and I WILL get a Black Convoy. Or two.
Posted by Overcracker on January 25th, 2022 @ 2:10pm CST
sol magnus wrote:Overcracker wrote:sol magnus wrote:Overcracker wrote:sol magnus wrote:PvP is back at it with Legacy Laser Optimus Prime -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-k3hGGXqo
The hands are a bit disappointing, but otherwise he looks fantastic. Can't wait to get mine.
I'll be holding out for Black Convoy, but I admit he's impressive enough that I'm tempted.
As much as I'd like Black Convoy, I fear he'll be hard to get being a U.S Walmart Exclusive. Unless Amazon.mx manages to get some over here (like they did with the Headmasters and OG BW figures), he'll probably be impossibly expensive to get on the secondary market.
Hit me up if they release him on Pulse, I'll get you one. No one has free will in your reality and I WILL get a Black Convoy. Or two.
Thanks. Will keep an eye out on Pulse.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2022 @ 7:03pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2022 @ 9:45pm CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 26th, 2022 @ 2:32am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 26th, 2022 @ 4:40am CST
Posted by Cheetron on January 26th, 2022 @ 5:55am CST
And I was hoping I was wrong. I wanted to want him bad.
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2022 @ 6:55am CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Wait, is Laser Prime's Matrix a different mold too? It looks a bit taller than ER Prime's
Yes, it's a different mold
Posted by cruizerdave on January 26th, 2022 @ 10:50am CST
In other words, it was a toy that went above and beyond.
This just seems to be treading water. Instead of working missiles, we get panels on the shoulders that move up to reveal some clear plastic bits. No rifle, but a dumb looking shield thing. Kind of limited articulation in the shoulders and an overly complicated transformation.
I don't know, I was looking forward to this, especially after they hit it out of the park with stuff like Rodimus last year. Now I'm just a little disappointed.
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 26th, 2022 @ 11:20am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 26th, 2022 @ 1:50pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 26th, 2022 @ 2:07pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, is the shoulder pylon fixed in place, or the whole shoulder? I see rotational joints, plus a panel that flips up.
I think the shoulder pylon is fixed. The shoulder itself looks like it is made up of 2 rotating joints, with the part connected to the torso allowing the arm to swing forward and back, and the second joint allowing the arm to move outward away from the body. If that is correct, the fixed should pylon will limit the range of motion somewhat, and I suspect that is the reason for the flaps, to at least allow the arm to be positioned straight forward.
Posted by Bounti76 on January 26th, 2022 @ 2:35pm CST
Check out the photo below, and let us know if you see Legacy figures in whatever corner of the world you're in!
Posted by Munkky on January 26th, 2022 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on January 26th, 2022 @ 3:05pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, is the shoulder pylon fixed in place, or the whole shoulder? I see rotational joints, plus a panel that flips up.
Apparently just the pylon with the missiles is fixed.
The shoulder itself under there appears to be a universal joint, that moves forward and back and out to the side. However both movements are limited by the pylon, which means you can't get it to hold his sword aloft and say "for the power of..." sorry got off track. Nor do the "pull sword out of his back" pose. Though the wrist would prevent the aloft pose anyway.
Outside of that, it looks like it has regular shoulder articulation.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 26th, 2022 @ 6:34pm CST