Comparison images of Transformers Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime's Prowl, Mirage and Sunstreaker

Cobotron wrote:I don't know, I kinda like Hasbro Mirage and SunStreaker better. I like that they painted Prowl's "head lights" in robot mode, but I'm fine with the Hasby deco. I'm not feeling the grey face either. the only reason their faces were grey in the show is because they were approximating the silver with the paint they had. TF's heads/faces are silver and should stay that way. At least on these classic characters.
I'm fine with the Domestic decos. Just MLP. (my little 'pinion)

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

mooncake623 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

It's brighter to attract the kid's eyes.

Sabrblade wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

It's brighter to attract the kid's eyes.

Takara's looks more vibrant and vivid, whereas Hasbro's looks more faded and washed out.

Starsaber468 wrote:So many people are going to think this is optimus maximus when its really ultra prime and hasn't their been a teaser for UW optimus maximus?

Sabrblade wrote:
All of the Unite Warriors boxes write the English names in English (meaning that Unite Warriors Guardian has his name written as "Defensor" in English), so this isn't a case of "Convoy Grand Prime" being just the Japanese name of either Ultra Prime or Optimus Maximus. This is a third combiner form for Optimus.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:
All of the Unite Warriors boxes write the English names in English (meaning that Unite Warriors Guardian has his name written as "Defensor" in English), so this isn't a case of "Convoy Grand Prime" being just the Japanese name of either Ultra Prime or Optimus Maximus. This is a third combiner form for Optimus.

yeah, I think people have a tough time understanding because it is indeed a tad bit confusing but in truth the CW and UW lines together have given us a total of 3 different Combiners where Optimus is the torso:

Ultra Prime (the red torso with any limbs)
Optimus Maximus (white torso with the first phase of 84 bot limbs)
Convoy Grand Prime (red torso with the first phase of 84 bot limbs)

This does make me ask adumb question Sabr. Is it only Convoy Grand Prime if I buy the takara UW set? Or can I make my own Convoy Grand Prime using the hasbro versions of those molds/decos? If I put the red hasbro optimus torso with the hasbro autobot limbs is he still Ultra prime (since he is all hasbro) or does he become the hasbro deco version of Convoy Grand Prime?

Optimum Supreme wrote:"It is "Convoy Grand Prime", written in plan English on the box."

A rose by any other name... It's clearly the red/blue Optimus torso bot for Japan, making it the equivalent of what Hasbro called Ultra Prime. What Takara writes on boxes in English doesn't change that, Japanese products use all sorts of English in all sorts of ways, not always particularly consistently.

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Wow lol, I think you should repost that image William-James...

I will do so when I get home since I can only view it from the google preview of the image rather than the image itself. I will then delete this post too.

william-james88 wrote:This does make me ask a dumb question Sabr. Is it only Convoy Grand Prime if I buy the takara UW set? Or can I make my own Convoy Grand Prime using the hasbro versions of those molds/decos? If I put the red hasbro optimus torso with the hasbro autobot limbs is he still Ultra prime (since he is all hasbro) or does he become the hasbro deco version of Convoy Grand Prime?

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

It's bright yellow, but it's kinda thin, so the black bleeds through underneath, altering the color of the plastic. I was talking about this with fenrir earlier in the thread.

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

It's bright yellow, but it's kinda thin, so the black bleeds through underneath, altering the color of the plastic. I was talking about this with fenrir earlier in the thread.

I actually think Sunstreaker looks better with the greener yellow; it makes him less Bumblebee-like.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Still can't beleive no one has bothered to pain those stupid elbow parts on dead-end/prowl, it looks so obviously terrible, like, what actually happened where they said that it couldn't be fit in? Was the budget blown on metallic pain for o/p's combiner abs

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Still can't beleive no one has bothered to pain those stupid elbow parts on dead-end/prowl, it looks so obviously terrible, like, what actually happened where they said that it couldn't be fit in? Was the budget blown on metallic pain for o/p's combiner abs

I believe unpaintable plastic is to blame here. As in, none of the usual paint at HasTak's disposal can adhere properly to the type of plastic used for the joint.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Still can't beleive no one has bothered to pain those stupid elbow parts on dead-end/prowl, it looks so obviously terrible, like, what actually happened where they said that it couldn't be fit in? Was the budget blown on metallic pain for o/p's combiner abs

I believe unpaintable plastic is to blame here. As in, none of the usual paint at HasTak's disposal can adhere properly to the type of plastic used for the joint.

Really? That's a shame, as it is just garish.

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

Wolfman Jake wrote:You know, I wonder if Takara elected for a darker blue color for Mirage just to match the blue on Optimus himself. Maybe the designers felt the color scheme overall for Convoy Grand Prime looks better with a closer match in shades among all the components. Makes me wonder if Ironhide and Optimus share the same shade of red. I can see that Prowl and Optimus (and maybe Sunstreaker and Ironhide) share the same metallic light blue shade for their window details. The yellow striping on Ironhide matches Takara's choice of yellow for Sunstreaker's car body. There's a certain amount of sense to this on Takara's part.

megatronus wrote:So... the Ironhides are identical I guess?

ZeroWolf wrote:If takara are going all in for this, isn't it possible they may make new characters for a sky lynx team?

Also, a long shot, but wouldn't it be nice that for the other set of autobot cars they redecoed hot spot into Inferno for the torso to make another new combiner?

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:If takara are going all in for this, isn't it possible they may make new characters for a sky lynx team?

Also, a long shot, but wouldn't it be nice that for the other set of autobot cars they redecoed hot spot into Inferno for the torso to make another new combiner?

We'll probably have to wait and see what they do for "Galvatronus" in order to better gauge how they'll handle Sky Reign. For Optimus's combiner form , they went with a non-1980's G1 homage to Grand Convoy Super Mode, so once we see what they do for "Galvatronus" (another non-1980's G1 combiner), we might be able to better tell what they could do for Sky Reign.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:If takara are going all in for this, isn't it possible they may make new characters for a sky lynx team?

Also, a long shot, but wouldn't it be nice that for the other set of autobot cars they redecoed hot spot into Inferno for the torso to make another new combiner?

We'll probably have to wait and see what they do for "Galvatronus" in order to better gauge how they'll handle Sky Reign. For Optimus's combiner form , they went with a non-1980's G1 homage to Grand Convoy Super Mode, so once we see what they do for "Galvatronus" (another non-1980's G1 combiner), we might be able to better tell what they could do for Sky Reign.

Well, we know that they are sticking to using available molds where possible - even if they aren't sticking to hasbro's teams (swapping bcop for o/p) - so unless the release skyreigns limbs with bcop - so the japanese fanbase can get the mold - and release sky lynx seperately under tav or something, I would expect that skyreign would come with his appropriate limbs.

william-james88 wrote:I see Skylynx being issued seperately in their Legends line.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I see Skylynx being issued seperately in their Legends line.

Funnily enough, I could too. Then again, it's a real 50/50 with Sky Lynx combining. The real pinch would be seeing unrevealed pretooled heads for Galvatronus' limbs (as I suspect Firefly, Air Raid and Rook to have).

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I see Skylynx being issued seperately in their Legends line.

Funnily enough, I could too. Then again, it's a real 50/50 with Sky Lynx combining. The real pinch would be seeing unrevealed pretooled heads for Galvatronus' limbs (as I suspect Firefly, Air Raid and Rook to have).

I hope not, the fandom would go nuts, and not in the good way.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I see Skylynx being issued seperately in their Legends line.

Funnily enough, I could too. Then again, it's a real 50/50 with Sky Lynx combining. The real pinch would be seeing unrevealed pretooled heads for Galvatronus' limbs (as I suspect Firefly, Air Raid and Rook to have).

I hope not, the fandom would go nuts, and not in the good way.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I see Skylynx being issued seperately in their Legends line.

Funnily enough, I could too. Then again, it's a real 50/50 with Sky Lynx combining. The real pinch would be seeing unrevealed pretooled heads for Galvatronus' limbs (as I suspect Firefly, Air Raid and Rook to have).

I hope not, the fandom would go nuts, and not in the good way.

While I wouldn't doubt that TT would go the extra mile where hasbor would cheap out on us; aren't the pre-tooled heads already unveiled?

Firefly = Quickslinger

Airraid = skydive

Rook = Swindle = Hound

Or am I missing out on what pre-tooled means?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I see Skylynx being issued seperately in their Legends line.

Funnily enough, I could too. Then again, it's a real 50/50 with Sky Lynx combining. The real pinch would be seeing unrevealed pretooled heads for Galvatronus' limbs (as I suspect Firefly, Air Raid and Rook to have).

I hope not, the fandom would go nuts, and not in the good way.

While I wouldn't doubt that TT would go the extra mile where hasbor would cheap out on us; aren't the pre-tooled heads already unveiled?

Firefly = Quickslinger

Airraid = skydive

Rook = Swindle = Hound

Or am I missing out on what pre-tooled means?

You got the general gist. But in the past pretooled heads have gone unused (and still are) for years. Plus, the Offroad model has a whopping 4 to 5, spread over 2 vehicle shells:

#1: Offroad = Ironhide = Trailbreaker
#2: First Aid = Ratchet (sketch)

That lead to my limit of 2 shells with 3 heads per shell, and Air Raid, Skydive (who are reshells) and Rook have yet to unveil their alternate heads, if any.

Hellscream9999 wrote:But aren't rooks altenate heads swindle and hound, I mean, they are reshells, but they require the same dimensional space, so, perhaps a better way to look at things is simply heads per base mold - with no quibbling over 'who came first'

Plus, we're at the end of cw reveals (outside of sky lynx's wavemate - I've heard rumblings that demolisher isn't official) so, I'm not sure if hasbro included many more uses with them...