Dawn of The Predacus Video Featuring David Kaye with Reveal
Tuesday, February 2nd, 2016 12:09PM CST
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TF_JW wrote:BotCon have released a new view promoting the 2016 convention. The video is a voice over provided by David Kaye, in the voice of Beast Wars Megatron... And also features a bit of a surprise at the end...
So what do you make of this reveal? Let us know in the comments below.
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:12pm CST
This is the greatest thing evar :BOOM:
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:13pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:17pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:21pm CST
But that chest isnt gold though. And isn't RID Megatron a different character than Beast Wars Megatron?
He's a different guy in the current comics too
I just dont understand the fiction they are trying to pull here and the criss crossing homages.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:25pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
But that chest isnt gold though. And isn't RID Megatron a different character than Beast Wars Megatron?
He's a different guy in the current comics too
I just dont understand the fiction they are trying to pull here and the criss crossing homages.
You seriously haven't seen Sabr parading this image around?
It's the unreleased 3H megs
Posted by Samsonator on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:42pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:44pm CST
Posted by Trikeboy on February 2nd, 2016 @ 12:44pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 1:06pm CST
Posted by ScottyP on February 2nd, 2016 @ 1:51pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on February 2nd, 2016 @ 2:05pm CST
Also, rubber duck or bust.
Posted by Munkky on February 2nd, 2016 @ 2:57pm CST
But with that being said, I'm surprised they're using the Robots in Disguise Megatron mould and not something more recent. The Transformers Prime Voyager Predaking mould would have been my first choice, you could even use Fall of Cybertron Grimlock in Transmetal 1 colours, with that old Beast Wars Megatron head which never saw the light of day.
Nevertheless, this new Megatron could actually be the first BotCon exclusive figure I buy, even if it does cost more than a hundred quid second-hand!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 2nd, 2016 @ 3:02pm CST
Posted by Va'al on February 2nd, 2016 @ 3:28pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:[Edited by Va'al]
5 CW molds in the boxed set, four Deluxes (Ravage, Cicadacon, Ramhorn, Tarantulas) and the 1 Voyager (Seaclamp)
1 CW Deluxe attendee figure with a new headsculpt (potentially Terrorsaur, as seen on box set packaging)
1 CW Deluxe custom class figure with an "alternative" headsculpt, and who is a 1984-1985 G1 character rather than a BW character
1 CW Legends as the troop builder set, and as the GT figure who is a non-BW character related to a familiar G1 character
1 CW Deluxe souvenir figure
1 non-CW mold "centerpiece" souvenir figure (Megatron, as just revealed?)
1 non-CW mold other souvenir figure
And one of the souvenirs (not the centerpiece?) has a non-U.S. headsculpt.
Also, as Emerje jas pointed out in previous speculations, it is possible we have seen the new Megatron headsculpt already, here:
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 3:29pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 2nd, 2016 @ 3:40pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Can someone at botcon buy more than one souvenir figure?
Or maybe multiple someones or multiple souvenirs?
Posted by Railbomb on February 2nd, 2016 @ 4:02pm CST
Posted by King Kuuga on February 2nd, 2016 @ 4:15pm CST
william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.
Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.
Posted by dragons on February 2nd, 2016 @ 5:26pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on February 2nd, 2016 @ 5:53pm CST
...if it is based on Robots in Disguise (2001) Megatron or Fall of Cybertron Grimlock, that is.
On a side note, I'm liking how FunPub is looking back on legendary 3H concepts that never made it and are recreating them, like Alpha Trizer and Devcon from 2014.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 2nd, 2016 @ 6:14pm CST
METAL
THREE
MEGATRON!!!!!!!!!
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 6:20pm CST
That Bot wrote:william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.
Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.
Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.
Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.
Posted by Robogeek1973 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 6:37pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:02pm CST
william-james88 wrote:That Bot wrote:william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.
Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.
Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.
Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.
Here's another possibility, I'm surprised nobody thought of this yet:
Full News Story here
The best thing about this is that this head is built into the mold, saving FunPub resources should they go that route.
Posted by Mindmaster on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:03pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:That Bot wrote:william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.
Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.
Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.
Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.
Here's another possibility, I'm surprised nobody thought of this yet:
Full News Story here
The best thing about this is that this head is built into the mold, saving FunPub resources should they go that route.
I... I made a small mention of it...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:11pm CST
At any rate, careful speculation is in order here.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:17pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:At any rate, careful speculation is in order here.
Naw, I'm pretty sure this calls for rampant, careless, hyping
Posted by Doctor McGrath on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:24pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:28pm CST
Doctor McGrath wrote:The FoC Grimlock mold would be a major downer..
Plus, wouldn't it be gutted of electronics, since funpub doesn't do electronic gimmicks?
Posted by King Kuuga on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:49pm CST
Posted by Robogeek1973 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 7:50pm CST
Now I just wonder which version the club will use, the 6 mode version or the 10 mode one? I would hope it would be the 10 mode one since that's the one the U.S used for RID Megatron.
Posted by Zeedust on February 2nd, 2016 @ 8:16pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on February 2nd, 2016 @ 8:16pm CST
Robogeek1973 wrote:Considering the chest is the RID/CR Megatron/Gigatron chest, I feel comfortable expecting this guy to be the TM3 Megatron that uses that mold.
Now I just wonder which version the club will use, the 6 mode version or the 10 mode one? I would hope it would be the 10 mode one since that's the one the U.S used for RID Megatron.
Which one was used for BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus / Deszaras?
Posted by Mindmaster on February 2nd, 2016 @ 8:18pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Anyone wanna help me rob a bank so I can afford all of this?
If it's within driving distance of the southeast coast of North Carolina, I'm in.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 2nd, 2016 @ 8:43pm CST
The 10 mode one. Though, the snout required for the mold's Bat Mode was removed to make room for the new head, but while the toy can still assume that configuration, it looks less convincing with the snout piece missing.Seibertron wrote:Robogeek1973 wrote:Considering the chest is the RID/CR Megatron/Gigatron chest, I feel comfortable expecting this guy to be the TM3 Megatron that uses that mold.
Now I just wonder which version the club will use, the 6 mode version or the 10 mode one? I would hope it would be the 10 mode one since that's the one the U.S used for RID Megatron.
Which one was used for BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus / Deszaras?
Only the original Car Robots Gigatron version of the mold used the 6 mode version, as Hasbro's RID Megatron used the retooled back piece of the 10 mode Devil Gigatron version.
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2016 @ 8:52pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Doctor McGrath wrote:The FoC Grimlock mold would be a major downer..
Plus, wouldn't it be gutted of electronics, since funpub doesn't do electronic gimmicks?
Doesnt matter, those elctronics arent that great and they've just been removed for the recent RID Grimlock release which redoes that entire section which is what I would hope happens here if they use that mode. They would have to remake that tyranosaurus head into a dragon.
That Bot wrote:They used what appears to be new artwork in this video for Megatron, based on this hypothetical toy. They didn't just show his head, they didn't reuse old art, they used NEW ART that they had to commission. I admit to not paying a whole lot of attention to club and botcon affairs since I'm not a member and have never gone, but that seems a bit of an unnecessary expenditure if they aren't planning to follow through.
Oh man, I can tell you dont follow the Botcon stuff because you clearly werent duped before. The club comissioned this whole new animation for the following character cryotech which clearly used the energon Shockblast body:
And yet that figure never came out. Dont see me as too negative, I just want to temper expectations. Every argument presented has precedent against it.
Seibertron wrote:
Which one was used for BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus / Deszaras?
They used the 10 mode version but because of the different headsculpt, the toy couldnt do the Bat mode.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 2nd, 2016 @ 10:25pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on February 2nd, 2016 @ 10:32pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Up until now, the exclusives for this year suggested that this year's story would be set in a pre-Beast Wars setting like 2006's story was. But now, with this video seemingly implying the presence of a post-Beast Wars-set figure, I'm beginning to wonder if the story might actually be set sometime after Beast Machines. Maybe even after the Universe War, during the DoFP epilogue that we got a glimpse of on the final page of the 2006 comic. This would suggest that the boxed set toys might be upgraded body forms of the Council, Tarantulas and Ravage. While both Ravage and Tarantulas died in the BW cartoon, they were both resurrected in 3H's "Primeval Dawn" comics and, while Ravage's fate was left unknown due to 3H going under before "Primeval Dawn" could be concluded, Tarantulas was alive during the Universe War and could have survived its events. And since Ravage's fate wasn't made known, this new story could possibly confirm his survival as well, leading to both him and Tarantulas being upgraded into their combiner bodies. And if this were to be a post-Universe War story, that could explain some of the non-boxed set exclusives being G1/G1-related characters instead of Beast Era characters since the Universe War had some G1 guys take part in it.
More theories about this year's BotCon story/toys, pls. I thrive on theories!
Posted by megatronus on February 2nd, 2016 @ 10:54pm CST
Posted by Va'al on February 3rd, 2016 @ 3:44am CST
Mindmaster wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:That Bot wrote:william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.
Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.
Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.
Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.
Here's another possibility, I'm surprised nobody thought of this yet:
Full News Story here
The best thing about this is that this head is built into the mold, saving FunPub resources should they go that route.
I... I made a small mention of it...
Yeah, mine was really tiny too: botcon-2016-promotional-video-feat-megatron-t106310.php#p1762149
Posted by Evil Eye on February 3rd, 2016 @ 11:24am CST
Sabrblade wrote:TRANS
METAL
THREE
MEGATRON!!!!!!!!!
Amusing fact: This song was originally written with the apocalypse in mind- in fact, shortly after composing it, its creator broke down in floods of tears blubbering that "He had seen the face of god".
And then of course, there was its use in Neon Genesis Evangelion...
Posted by Sabrblade on February 3rd, 2016 @ 11:49am CST
The 2016 Souvenir "centerpiece" item & the non-Combiner Wars Maximal were NOT made in large quantities. These WILL sell out at the show.
We fully expect both items to be sold out by, at the latest, Friday afternoon - maybe earlier.
Yes, there will be some Combiner Wars Maximals available for sale at BotCon!
Also, this list of rumored at-show exclusives has been circulating the Internet:
TM3 Megatron (from RID Megatron)
CW Tigatron (from boxset Ravage)
CW Bluestreak (from Prowl/Smokescreen, presumably the custom class figure)
Spider Arcee (from Legends Blackarachnia)
CW Terrorsaur (from ???)
CW Alpha Trion (from ???)
Reflector (troop builder, from CW Shockwave)
Perceptor (GT exclusive, Reflector redeco)
Comparing this list with what we know so far of the exclusives:
5 CW molds in the boxed set, four Deluxes and the 1 Voyager
1 CW Deluxe attendee figure with a new headsculpt
1 CW Deluxe custom class figure with an "alternative" headsculpt, and who is a 1984-1985 G1 character rather than a BW character
1 CW Legends as the troop builder set, and as the GT figure who is a non-BW character related to a familiar G1 character
1 CW Deluxe souvenir figure
1 non-CW mold "centerpiece" souvenir figure
1 non-CW mold other souvenir figure
And one of the souvenirs (not the centerpiece?) has a non-U.S. headsculpt.
Tigatron could be the attendee figure, as the Ravage head would still be considered a "new" head.
Bluestreak at first glance would seem like the custom class figure, but that can't be right since the custom class figure has an "alternative" headsculpt and Bluestreak's head wouldn't be any different from that of Prowl and Smokescreen. If it were Ratchet out of First Aid or Hoist out of Trailbreaker that would make more sense.
Reflector would be the troop builder and Perceptor the Golden Ticket figure.
Terrorsaur or Alpha Trion would be the CW Deluxe souvenir, but Alpha Trion doesn't make sense since they just did Alpha Trizer in 2014 and there's the upcoming Titans Return Alpha Trion figure coming. So it might just be Terrorsaur, maybe from CW Air Raid.
TM3 Megatron has got to be the centerpiece
Which leaves Legends Blackarachnia Arcee as the non-CW souvenir Maximal with the non-U.S. headsculpt.
But then the Tweets said that there would be CW MaximalS (plural), so something on this list can't be right since Tigatron is the only CW Maximal listed, unless Bluestreak or whoever the custom class G1 character figure is gets labeled as a Maximal, but that might seem like a copout.
So aside from TM3 Megatron and maybe spider Arcee (since she was rumored previously), I'd be wary of this list as it seems mostly like guesswork.
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:05pm CST
Also that Spider Arcee sounds a lot like backwards thinking.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:10pm CST
In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.
While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.
Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:15pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.
Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
I dunno, we're still 2 moths out, and they're packaged in bags, I guess if they notice people are being scalping douches/buying for friends, they could theoretically crank out some more
Posted by megatronus on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:17pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.
Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
I dunno, we're still 2 moths out, and they're packaged in bags, I guess if they notice people are being scalping douches/buying for friends, they could theoretically crank out some more
That seems implausible. Shipping costs alone would make that a fools errand.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:18pm CST
megatronus wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.
Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
I dunno, we're still 2 moths out, and they're packaged in bags, I guess if they notice people are being scalping douches/buying for friends, they could theoretically crank out some more
That seems implausible. Shipping costs alone would make that a fools errand.
Unless they were packed in a box and brought to botcon with one of the staff... I'm just saying it's possible, plus, how will bbts and the like factor into that number? Or do they get shipments separately, directly from funpub/their factories?
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:20pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.
Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
Firstly, come one Pete, dont you know the official Botcon forums are on Seibertron ?
Secondly, there are only 100 Golden Tickets, so that still leaves at least 700 of that Megatron toy. Also, this being a leder class toy, the Botcon price will be between 70-100$ for it, which will deter some people.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:22pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.
Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
Firstly, come one Pete, dont you know the official Botcon forums are on Seibertron ?
Secondly, there are only 100 Golden Tickets, so that still leaves at least 700 of that Megatron toy. Also, this being a leder class toy, the Botcon price will be between 70-100$ for it, which will deter some people.
That mold is a voyager class at best, a parts-intensive one, yes, but a voyager through and through
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2016 @ 12:23pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Unless they were packed in a box and brought to botcon with one of the staff... I'm just saying it's possible, plus, how will bbts and the like factor into that number? Or do they get shipments separately, directly from funpub/their factories?
BBTS and the like do not get their shipment directly from funpub's factories. As fa as we know they go through the same channel as fans, hence their high mark up.