Devastator In-Hand Images With Size Comparisons
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...including size comparisons! Considering he's 18 inches tall and most of the other Combiner Wars combiners are roughly a foot tall at or around 12 inches tall, he dwarfs them by quite a bit. He's a massive beast and looks to be well worth the $150.00 asking price.
Without further ado, the images in question, comparisons and all:
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Posted by phantom1592 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 3:42am CDT
They still look outnumbered to me!
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:00am CDT
Posted by Ravage XK on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:02am CDT
Posted by RhA on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:19am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:19am CDT
I'd be interested in a CW Predaking though. Probably not this size as I don't go for the large figures (or have the shelf space) but I'd like a proper affordable update of the Predacons cos I always thought they looked the coolest in general appearance, colour scheme and alt-modes.
Posted by Killraven on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:22am CDT
Posted by Ironzeus on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:24am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:24am CDT
phantom1592 wrote:Really?!?
Why would that be desirable??
Smoe people might find it more affordable to buy each member seperately rather than all at once cos at least you have a toy while you're waiting to buy the next one. Certainly it was that way for me when I was a kid and someone bought me Brawl for my birthday and so steadily I saved up for each of the other Combaticons and it was a nice sense of 'achievement' once I got them all.
Others may only want a particular member of the team cos the character itself is a favourite of theirs and they don't want to pay the extra money for more toys they don't really want and have no intention of combining. I feel that way about certain teams both combiner and non-combiner. I'm not that much of a collector that I feel the need to buy things just for the sake of collecting.
Posted by phantom1592 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:35am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:phantom1592 wrote:Really?!?
Why would that be desirable??
I'm not that much of a collector that I feel the need to buy things just for the sake of collecting.
Ohhh I understand that concept. I get my favorites, but have never been a completest before. So far the only CW I have is superion and that started as a whim. Ultra prime and Stunticons I'm passing on. Along with anything Legends size.
However, with Combiners I really never see them as 'individual' figures. They were the team. Even if I only had one (like Motormaster) I would have to get THAT whole team just to use the part to it's fullest potential.
If there was only one I wanted... I'd probably hit Ebay or something.. I just don't see individuals selling really well...
Posted by fenrir72 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:42am CDT
Posted by Ironzeus on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:46am CDT
noctorro wrote:I'm going for the retail, I love the visor.
I'm banking on getting the SDCC Devastator and hoping a 3rd party makes a clip on visor, possibly a glowy one like they did for MP20 Wheeljack's ears.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:49am CDT
phantom1592 wrote:However, with Combiners I really never see them as 'individual' figures. They were the team. Even if I only had one (like Motormaster) I would have to get THAT whole team just to use the part to it's fullest potential.
If there was only one I wanted... I'd probably hit Ebay or something.. I just don't see individuals selling really well...
Yeah I can see eBay being useful where people may buy Combiner sets for the idea of selling each member individually and making a bit of a profit those fans who just want a particular member or need to replace a broken one.
Some characters in the teams stand out for me more than others. I think this may be because I grew up with the Marvel UK comics and from time to time you'd get a bit of extra characterisation on a member who isn't there with his whole team and maybe you end up liking the character more for that (for example when Blades took on Megatron (or what we thought was Megatron at the time) in London with the assistance of Action Force. Or people like Swindle's personality from cartoon and comics where he's a con-artist and salesman and that gives him a bit more uniqueness amongst combiner members. Friend of mine had Swoop and Divebomb purely because of their battle in the Marvel UK story about Divebomb having been originally Swoop's name in it. Even though the other Dinobots and Predacons were in that story it was mainly about those two characters and my friend didn't own any of the others in those teams.
This is similar to reasons why I get a bit annoyed with simple repaints and minor retools where totally unrelated characters or even arch-nemesis' of a sort end up with the same mold. The characters feel like they lose their individuality. The toys are obviously the main focus of the brand but often it's the characterization in the fiction that helps sell them. Even a crappy TF figure can be helped by that.
Ok I pretty much babbled there you get what I mean. Some of us TF fans like to have the whole set of something, other TF fans just want their fave characters. =)
Posted by Ironzeus on May 22nd, 2015 @ 4:55am CDT
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FSDCC-2015-Exclu%20...%2020fc61efa7%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
...i need to goto sleep
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 22nd, 2015 @ 5:10am CDT
Posted by Arctorro on May 22nd, 2015 @ 5:21am CDT
I was wondering though, Takara has done 2 repaints and 1 new mould for the other teams, so does anyone think there is a chance they'd do a proper Mixmaster? That might be worth the extra cost to me
Posted by MrBlack on May 22nd, 2015 @ 5:59am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:While the size is impressive, the pant apps are still a let down. Especially after seeing the SDCC version. I really don't understand why so much detail is put into deluxe class, but the larger figures all feel cheaper.
"Devastator needs a decent pair of pants!"
Posted by Rated X on May 22nd, 2015 @ 6:29am CDT
Posted by Burn on May 22nd, 2015 @ 6:30am CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 22nd, 2015 @ 6:36am CDT
Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Ha! The size is the one thing still keeping me interested.
I want this Devy, I just want him to look a little better. I guess it may be fair to say I've been spoiled by MPs and 3rd party....
Posted by It Is Him on May 22nd, 2015 @ 6:38am CDT
Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
Posted by Burn on May 22nd, 2015 @ 6:39am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Ha! The size is the one thing still keeping me interested.
That's NOT what she said!
Posted by It Is Him on May 22nd, 2015 @ 6:39am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Ha! The size is the one thing still keeping me interested.
I want this Devy, I just want him to look a little better. I guess it may be fair to say I've been spoiled by MPs and 3rd party....
I only wish that the eyes would be yellow like the original toy version, and not red like the cartoon.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2015 @ 6:58am CDT
This Devastator is meant to murder the other combiners.
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 22nd, 2015 @ 7:16am CDT
Burn wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Ha! The size is the one thing still keeping me interested.
That's NOT what she said!
That was very rude of her.
I hope you got your money back.
Posted by Rated X on May 22nd, 2015 @ 7:28am CDT
It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Posted by dragons on May 22nd, 2015 @ 7:35am CDT
Ironzeus wrote:I'm hoping there some articulation in the knees and hips on Devastator, my shelf only has 17 inches of height... i don't want to have to do construction on a new shelf for the constructicons.
There is movement in knees and hips movement hard to tell compare this picture with sdcc picture
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2015 @ 7:42am CDT
A LOT of people really don't care for the G1 cartoon, you know. There are better media outlets out there than a 30-year-old show with inconsistent animation and pedestrian plots and characters.Rated X wrote:Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision.
Like you just said, just because somebody (this case being that old cartoon) did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Posted by Alpha Dominus on May 22nd, 2015 @ 7:48am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:I'd be interested in a CW Predaking though. Probably not this size as I don't go for the large figures (or have the shelf space) but I'd like a proper affordable update of the Predacons cos I always thought they looked the coolest in general appearance, colour scheme and alt-modes.
Samesies. Always thought the Predacons had the coolest designs of all the combiner teams.Never thought they'd go all out on this Combiners thing so it's possible.
Posted by Shuttershock on May 22nd, 2015 @ 7:58am CDT
MrBlack wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:While the size is impressive, the pant apps are still a let down. Especially after seeing the SDCC version. I really don't understand why so much detail is put into deluxe class, but the larger figures all feel cheaper.
"Devastator needs a decent pair of pants!"
Posted by MrBlack on May 22nd, 2015 @ 8:03am CDT
Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 22nd, 2015 @ 8:21am CDT
Posted by Optimizzy on May 22nd, 2015 @ 8:22am CDT
Posted by Rated X on May 22nd, 2015 @ 8:43am CDT
MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
And what makes "this particular toy" worthy of not caring about scale ? If someone likes the character enough to exempt scale from their requirements, they can just flat out say they are buying it because they are a super-duper devy fan. Theres no need to make up fan fiction to try to justify shoehorning it into your collection. Creating proposed cybertronian science theories on why devy is bigger than the other combiners just shows insecurity about the figures size. And that IS sugarcoating.
Posted by william-james88 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 8:57am CDT
Posted by Shockwave7 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 9:10am CDT
Posted by Alpha Dominus on May 22nd, 2015 @ 9:14am CDT
Posted by cor2879 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 9:14am CDT
That Bot wrote:Silly wrote:Do you think SDCC Devastator will be more expensive that retail Devy?
Limited run, more paint apps and chrome detailing? You bet it's going to be more expensive.
Looks like early Ebay presale listings are going for $300 - $600, all of which seem overpriced to me. Even SDCC Metroplex can be found on Ebay minty fresh for < $300. I want SDCC Devastator badly but last year I bought the SDCC Kreon set at the inflated Ebay prices, and then they were available at the Hasbro toy shop for much less and plenty of them to meet demand. Given that experience, I'm probably going to wait and get him from the Hasbro toy shop after SDCC. Worst case, I'll probably still be able to find him on Ebay for inflated Ebay prices if the Hasbro Toy Shop thing doesn't work out.
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 22nd, 2015 @ 10:03am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:I REALLY hope Takara makes a smaller version with better paint apps. That thing is far too big to fit in with CHUG, and too simple to fit in with masterpiece (a bit like Combiner Wars Megs and the seekers). Plus, it's too big for Japanese homes and thus, kids.
If not, then I might actually buy my first 3rd party combiner, Green Giant, as I think (please, someone, post some comparrison pics!) it's in "scale" with the regular Combiner Wars gestaults, right?
Could this be the only combiner that people will buy SMALLER knock-offs of?
It just seems that the team behind this designed it in isolation from the combiner wars teams (possibly straight after Metroplex) and then, at the meeting, they came in just after the big combiner wars demo and were like "uh oh..."
I think Hasbro have really dropped the ball here. I don't think kids will buy (all) of the toys (as they all look "the same") individually, and the price of such a huge toy will put parents off. I also think most collectors are either on the fence, or will just get a third party for this combiner instead.
Hasbro showed that they couldn't even get Metroplex right (just look at the awful, stunted ramp, which the G1 team managed to get right), so I feel that after this, we won't be getting any more giant robots from Hasbro, which is a shame, but only Hasbro's fault if it is true.
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 10:21am CDT
And I've spent $400 bucks 3 times on a few combiners so I'm not hating at all
Posted by King Kuuga on May 22nd, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
Rated X wrote:Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it.
It's enormous and I like it. No sugarcoating necessary.
Posted by Spanbauer on May 22nd, 2015 @ 10:58am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:If not, then I might actually buy my first 3rd party combiner, Green Giant, as I think (please, someone, post some comparrison pics!) it's in "scale" with the regular Combiner Wars gestaults, right?
That's entirely dependent upon what you want to have be "in scale", because the Hasbro set actually makes an attempt to have the vehicles themselves properly scaled to other vehicles. If you want the combined mode to be the same size as other combiners, then you've got yourself tiny baby construction vehicles. Quite frankly, scale and Transformers is a no-win situation.
primalxconvoy wrote:I think Hasbro have really dropped the ball here. I don't think kids will buy (all) of the toys (as they all look "the same") individually, and the price of such a huge toy will put parents off. I also think most collectors are either on the fence, or will just get a third party for this combiner instead.
Are you kidding - if I were a kid this would be a freakin' amazing giftset! If I had my own kids, getting them this giftset that's an awesome update to one I had as a kid would be so damn fun. But since I'm buying for myself, I can say that having a killer, faithful-to-a-fault G1 Devastator this size is going to be amazing. It's an adult-sized version of Devastator, where-in the Constructicons in hand will feel as big to me now as they did when I was 5 years old. And that's pretty cool.
Posted by YoungPrime on May 22nd, 2015 @ 11:10am CDT
Hopefully they make an Omega Supreme who's par with Devy here.
Posted by MrBlack on May 22nd, 2015 @ 12:21pm CDT
Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
And what makes "this particular toy" worthy of not caring about scale ? If someone likes the character enough to exempt scale from their requirements, they can just flat out say they are buying it because they are a super-duper devy fan. Theres no need to make up fan fiction to try to justify shoehorning it into your collection. Creating proposed cybertronian science theories on why devy is bigger than the other combiners just shows insecurity about the figures size. And that IS sugarcoating.
It's also a strawman seeing as so few people in this thread have been making any such arguments.
I don't care about scale for the most part when it comes to toys. I might try to put figures together that scale to each other for display, but proper scale is just not a big deal to me. I like the idea of a BIG Devastator, which is why I am buying this. In any event, I'll likely display him on his own anyway since he won't fit on my shelf.
Posted by Rated X on May 22nd, 2015 @ 12:55pm CDT
MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
And what makes "this particular toy" worthy of not caring about scale ? If someone likes the character enough to exempt scale from their requirements, they can just flat out say they are buying it because they are a super-duper devy fan. Theres no need to make up fan fiction to try to justify shoehorning it into your collection. Creating proposed cybertronian science theories on why devy is bigger than the other combiners just shows insecurity about the figures size. And that IS sugarcoating.
It's also a strawman seeing as so few people in this thread have been making any such arguments.
I don't care about scale for the most part when it comes to toys. I might try to put figures together that scale to each other for display, but proper scale is just not a big deal to me. I like the idea of a BIG Devastator, which is why I am buying this. In any event, I'll likely display him on his own anyway since he won't fit on my shelf.
Well whenever somebody hits you with the ol strawman accusation its safe to say we agree to disagree.
But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
Posted by Va'al on May 22nd, 2015 @ 12:56pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 22nd, 2015 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by no-one on May 22nd, 2015 @ 1:10pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
I like robits, but I also like robutts...
Posted by MrBlack on May 22nd, 2015 @ 1:10pm CDT
Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
And what makes "this particular toy" worthy of not caring about scale ? If someone likes the character enough to exempt scale from their requirements, they can just flat out say they are buying it because they are a super-duper devy fan. Theres no need to make up fan fiction to try to justify shoehorning it into your collection. Creating proposed cybertronian science theories on why devy is bigger than the other combiners just shows insecurity about the figures size. And that IS sugarcoating.
It's also a strawman seeing as so few people in this thread have been making any such arguments.
I don't care about scale for the most part when it comes to toys. I might try to put figures together that scale to each other for display, but proper scale is just not a big deal to me. I like the idea of a BIG Devastator, which is why I am buying this. In any event, I'll likely display him on his own anyway since he won't fit on my shelf.
Well whenever somebody hits you with the ol strawman accusation its safe to say we agree to disagree.
But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
Like you said, agree to disagree.
I think you're right that Devy's unique position in the fiction (first combiner, six components, no defined rival) led to him being the choice for a stand-out figure in the line.
It would be nice to have a Devy that scales with the other toys in this line, I'll admit that. However, I like having some big display figures as well. I don't personally mind that he doesn't scale with the other figures because of his sheer size, but I can see how that might not fly with others who are more concerned about scale.
Posted by MrBlack on May 22nd, 2015 @ 1:13pm CDT
carytheone wrote:shajaki wrote:
I like robits, but I also like robutts...
Imma have my Devastator fightin' this guy.