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Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order

Transformers News: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order

Friday, November 29th, 2013 11:48AM CST

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Site sponsor BigBadToyStore has listed their pre-order for the officially licensed Gigantic Action: Scorponok. According to BBTS this figure stands even taller than the recently reissued Fortress Maximus, comes with a removable visor, shield, and cannon. However, the figure does not transform. He will also set you back a cool $549.99.

Note: Image with Fortress Maximus is to show size comparison.

This is a non-transforming action figure, it is not a fully transforming Transformer.

Please Note: Due to unusually small wholesale discounts on this item, we are paying close to Japanese retail pricing, and the resulting retail price is higher than we would prefer. If we are able to locate a less expensive alternate supplier, we will reduce the retail pricing accordingly.
Product Number: TAK11790
Shipping Weight: 16.80 pounds


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Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532402)
Posted by Rated X on November 29th, 2013 @ 11:56am CST
This is so lazy. Why didnt they take an extra year and make a transformable one ? I guess the people who buy busts and statues can have him.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532404)
Posted by Noideaforaname on November 29th, 2013 @ 12:03pm CST
For something that doesn't transform, he's got really weird proportions.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532409)
Posted by Shadowstream on November 29th, 2013 @ 12:14pm CST
So they make it the size of Fortress Maximus, yet it doesn't transform AND they expect people to pay ludicrous prices for it?

NEXT!
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532412)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on November 29th, 2013 @ 12:20pm CST
Absolutely huge, doesn't transform and is ludicrously priced. Bullcrap! Pass, too.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532414)
Posted by MagnetarPrime on November 29th, 2013 @ 12:26pm CST
There is no way I would pay $549.99 for this... LOL....
much rather use this money for a bunch of real third partytransformers :APPLAUSE:
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532418)
Posted by rpetras on November 29th, 2013 @ 12:44pm CST
For that price why doesn't this guy transform???
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532423)
Posted by Megazarak on November 29th, 2013 @ 12:54pm CST
Well, he's kinda cool. But between not transforming and that ludicrous price, nope.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532428)
Posted by 2scraplets1kup on November 29th, 2013 @ 1:55pm CST
OH WOW, A FUGE SCORPONOK ACTION MASTER!!! JUST WHAT EVERYONE WANTED EXACTLY!!!

Give me a break, this is getting ridiculous.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532435)
Posted by Burn on November 29th, 2013 @ 2:26pm CST
Non-transforming junk ...
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532436)
Posted by El Duque on November 29th, 2013 @ 2:31pm CST
Burn wrote:Non-transforming junk ...


Agreed, and I gotta say that's one damned handsome avatar you got there.........
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532437)
Posted by Burn on November 29th, 2013 @ 2:34pm CST
El Duque wrote:
Burn wrote:Non-transforming junk ...


Agreed, and I gotta say that's one damned handsome avatar you got there.........


Why thank you good sir. Image
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532482)
Posted by megatronus on November 29th, 2013 @ 7:18pm CST
So much completely substantiated hate...
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532485)
Posted by EagleTron on November 29th, 2013 @ 8:12pm CST
550 for a non Transformer :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD: >:oP
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532490)
Posted by Mkall on November 29th, 2013 @ 8:26pm CST
Interesting, but all together pointless.

I would've paid that much for a 2 foot tall transforming Scorponok, but not this half-hearted attempt.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532491)
Posted by fenrir72 on November 29th, 2013 @ 8:28pm CST
Oversized Actionmaster? :lol: Correction, over sized and super expensive Actionmaster. Btw, Scorponok's name for years sound wonky.........Megazarak is, well, kind of acceptable but why not a new amalgamation of the original..........call him Scorporak?
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532506)
Posted by MGrotusque on November 29th, 2013 @ 10:39pm CST
G1 Scorp had such a ridiculously simple transformation that there is no excuse for this not to do the same. All you need do is have a double jointed knee and some buggy kibbly type legs and a tail on the back and VOILA...you have a transforming Scorponok.
This thing looks pretty sharp though. Not 500 dollar sharp mind you. pass.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532514)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 29th, 2013 @ 11:47pm CST
The most interesting thing about this figure (aside from its size) is the fact that it uses the more toy-accurate Japanese cartoon model design for MegaZarak:
Image

As opposed the American character model design used for Scorponok:
Image
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532522)
Posted by leakin' lubricant on November 30th, 2013 @ 1:22am CST
Never understood the need for Non Transforming transformers, such a contradiction in terms and at this price, I would be surprised if this guy didn't flop.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532523)
Posted by megatronus on November 30th, 2013 @ 1:24am CST
I'd be interested to hear from anyone who is buying Ultimetal Prime and not this Scorponok, or vice versa.

I imagine this Scorponok would appeal to the Ultimetal folks, but you never know.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532548)
Posted by Mykltron on November 30th, 2013 @ 5:48am CST
I wouldn't pay that much even if it DID transform and had way better articulation than it seems to have. =;
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532566)
Posted by SJ21 on November 30th, 2013 @ 8:31am CST
Very expensive. And not a Transformer. No thanks, I will wait for Hasbro.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532568)
Posted by Rated X on November 30th, 2013 @ 8:47am CST
Mykltron wrote:I wouldn't pay that much even if it DID transform and had way better articulation than it seems to have. =;



I would. But my wallet is happy it doesn't transform. It really took a beating this month.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532569)
Posted by Autobot032 on November 30th, 2013 @ 9:23am CST
This was a complete waste of resources. There's literally NO need for this thing to exist. If it transformed, possibly. If it was...oh screw it. There's no justifiable reason for this thing to exist.

I hope they cancel this before it's too late and they go in debt over stupidity.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532648)
Posted by fenrir72 on November 30th, 2013 @ 6:02pm CST
In Japan, probably for a lot of fans with too much disposable income. :lol: I mean, is that company ever going to recoup its investment ( the manufacturers I mean)?
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532650)
Posted by Tronus_Rex on November 30th, 2013 @ 6:15pm CST
Autobot032 wrote:This was a complete waste of resources. There's literally NO need for this thing to exist. If it transformed, possibly. If it was...oh screw it. There's no justifiable reason for this thing to exist.

I hope they cancel this before it's too late and they go in debt over stupidity.


I expect it will not sell and than the prce will hopefully correct and drop to an equivalent action figure. When I can go to Waly-World and buy a Darth Vader or Superman figure, that is just as tall, and interesting, for 1/22 the price, I have to stop and ask; what is this company thinking?

It doesn't transform.

There are 3rd party combiner sets that cost only 499.99, that are almost as big, and FAR more complicated.

Also Metroplex is only a C-note, (depending on store, tax, shipping, ETC).

If this figure was only 24.99 to 29.99, I could consider him to be a good buy, (I had G1 Scorponok as a Christmas present as a child), like Vader and the Blue Boy Scout. That is all it is worth, given cost and demand.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532681)
Posted by megatronus on November 30th, 2013 @ 10:41pm CST
Tronus_Rex wrote:If this figure was only 24.99 to 29.99, I could consider him to be a good buy, (I had G1 Scorponok as a Christmas present as a child), like Vader and the Blue Boy Scout. That is all it is worth, given cost and demand.

I think you're being completely unrealistic with that price range... multiply that by 10, and we're being more reasonable about a 2 foot tall, attractively articulated Japanese import.

Not to say I would buy it at that price... it doesn't transform, after all ;)
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532685)
Posted by Tronus_Rex on November 30th, 2013 @ 11:22pm CST
megatronus wrote:
Tronus_Rex wrote:If this figure was only 24.99 to 29.99, I could consider him to be a good buy, (I had G1 Scorponok as a Christmas present as a child), like Vader and the Blue Boy Scout. That is all it is worth, given cost and demand.

I think you're being completely unrealistic with that price range... multiply that by 10, and we're being more reasonable about a 2 foot tall, attractively articulated Japanese import.

Not to say I would buy it at that price... it doesn't transform, after all ;)


To be 10 times more expensive, 249.99 & 299.99, they would need to not just be imports but out of production collectibles, that are also in HIGH DEMAND. Being that this is just a giant "Action Master" with alright articulation, it's not desirable in the price rage it is being offered in. Transformer fans want the toys to transform.

Also it is entering a market that has FAR more complicated, intricate, and articulated Transformer and 3rd party toys that cost less. And my first example of Vader and Supe's are 32" figures. They're articulation is just, okay, but it wouldn't cost that much more to improve that.

This Action Figure is wrong for it's target market, doesn't cost that much to make, and isn't going to be in that much demand.

If it Transformed though, I would pay 699-899, if it was also given enough crazy features I would pay a grand. But this action figure is no transformer.

I do like it, but not 549.99 (plus shipping), like him.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532689)
Posted by megatronus on December 1st, 2013 @ 12:14am CST
Tronus_Rex wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Tronus_Rex wrote:If this figure was only 24.99 to 29.99, I could consider him to be a good buy, (I had G1 Scorponok as a Christmas present as a child), like Vader and the Blue Boy Scout. That is all it is worth, given cost and demand.

I think you're being completely unrealistic with that price range... multiply that by 10, and we're being more reasonable about a 2 foot tall, attractively articulated Japanese import.

Not to say I would buy it at that price... it doesn't transform, after all ;)


To be 10 times more expensive, 249.99 & 299.99, they would need to not just be imports but out of production collectibles, that are also in HIGH DEMAND. Being that this is just a giant "Action Master" with alright articulation, it's not desirable in the price rage it is being offered in. Transformer fans want the toys to transform.

Also it is entering a market that has FAR more complicated, intricate, and articulated Transformer and 3rd party toys that cost less. And my first example of Vader and Supe's are 32" figures. They're articulation is just, okay, but it wouldn't cost that much more to improve that.

This Action Figure is wrong for it's target market, doesn't cost that much to make, and isn't going to be in that much demand.

If it Transformed though, I would pay 699-899, if it was also given enough crazy features I would pay a grand. But this action figure is no transformer.

I do like it, but not 549.99 (plus shipping), like him.

So you would be willing to pay $700-$900 if this thing transformed, but since it doesn't, it's worth $25-$30? Excuse me if I think you're a bit all over the place. And the 32" Vader comparison makes little sense to me, since those are hollow, simplistic play-things for kids that basically just have cut-joints at the shoulders (if you're talking about what I think you are).

I'd really love to see evidence that this thing "is wrong for its target market, doesn't cost that much to make, and isn't going to be in that much demand." Like I said, I'm not getting this figure, and it looks like many people on this board aren't either, but I tend to bristle at generalized and unsubstantiated assumptions such as the ones you're making.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532692)
Posted by Burn on December 1st, 2013 @ 12:26am CST
What people seem to be forgetting is that one reason the price is so high is because it's being produced in limited numbers to begin with, because they know it will only appeal to a small market, and that small market will pretty much pay for anything that resembles a Transformer, regardless of if they can play with it and if it can transform or not.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532701)
Posted by Tronus_Rex on December 1st, 2013 @ 2:20am CST
megatronus wrote: I'd really love to see evidence that this thing "is wrong for its target market, doesn't cost that much to make, and isn't going to be in that much demand." Like I said, I'm not getting this figure, and it looks like many people on this board aren't either, but I tend to bristle at generalized and unsubstantiated assumptions such as the ones you're making.


Well Burn just answered my question as to why the insane price :HEADHURTS: . M', you missed my point, this figure does not transform, it's a just a big robot that looks like Scorponok, not a transformer.

http://www.tekyu.com/2012/03/05/action- ... nsformers/

"...The good news was that like the Classic Pretenders sub-line, this one took notice that kids still liked the original Transformers characters and wanted to see more of them, or ANY of them in this case leading to the reintroduction of folks like Wheeljack, Shockwave, Megatron, Inferno, and Devastator back into the toy line.

It wasn’t well received by fans regardless of how well the gesture was appreciated to include iconic characters. Taking away Transformation was a serious party foul and this basically snuffed out Transformers so badly around the world that the line went in hiatus for awhile. Seriously, the only other thing keeping the franchise afloat were Micromasters and Pretenders."


I'm a high end collector. I also have studied marketing and demographics. High end collecting can get the prices, I myself stated, and even higher, depending on the hobby. Now, imagine a Model Train Hobbyist being offered a reissue of a prewar Lionel Train for 5 times the price of an equivalent, even being far more detailed than the original, but, it doesn't move on the tracks, & is basically a statue. It's the same as offering an RC Airplane hobbyist an RC version of an Airbus A380, with a 10' wingspan, extreme level of detail & accuracy, costing 20K...that couldn't fly and never would. The RC Airplane hobbyyist would say, "No thank you, I want planes that fly, not a museum model.

Also looking at Scorponok, he isn't any better in detail and articulation than other high end transforming Transformers. He is better than some, but they at least Transform.

Anyway, we were both missing the point that Burn mentioned, this item is a limited release.

I still feel it may not sell and be a shelf warmer in a warehouse or two. :CON:
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532702)
Posted by Tronus_Rex on December 1st, 2013 @ 2:25am CST
megatronus wrote: Not to say I would buy it at that price... it doesn't transform, after all ;)


This is one source of my confusion as you did already say what I was saying, LOL!

Still, its a Limited Release. I do not think it will sell at the 549.99 price anyway. If it does, well, $%i+, that might mean they will make more...not a good trend... :lol:
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532704)
Posted by Burn on December 1st, 2013 @ 2:50am CST
These "statues" are really just a step up from the busts that were all the rage a few years back. They were made in limited numbers, cost around the $100 mark and sold fairly well.

The market is there, but it's a tiny market and one that isn't very vocal.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532711)
Posted by Dead Metal on December 1st, 2013 @ 5:12am CST
I want this, and Unimetal Prime.

However, I believe there is far more to this than what we can see here.

All we have right now are tiny crappy pics, there seems to be a whole lot of detail along with accessories we haven't seen yet, just look at that render. I believe once we see actual and large pics this thing will look amazing.
But where would it fit in? Too small for MPs, and too good looking and articulated for G1 or WSTs.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532751)
Posted by megatronus on December 1st, 2013 @ 10:08am CST
Tronus_Rex wrote:
megatronus wrote: Not to say I would buy it at that price... it doesn't transform, after all ;)


This is one source of my confusion as you did already say what I was saying, LOL!

Still, its a Limited Release. I do not think it will sell at the 549.99 price anyway. If it does, well, $%i+, that might mean they will make more...not a good trend... :lol:

Like I said - you're making generalized assumptions. Even if I'm not buying the thing due to lack of transformation and price, doesn't mean I agree that a market doesn't exist. I've also studied marketing and demographics, and it appeared to me that you were using yourself as a proxy for the target market, as well as making unfounded assumptions on the actual cost.

Per Burn, this thing is a limited release. And per Dead Metal, it's hard to argue that a market isn't there. The preliminary renders and prototype show a heck of a lot more detail than you might think. Until we see color photos, it's tough to speculate how well this thing might do.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532763)
Posted by Tronus_Rex on December 1st, 2013 @ 11:27am CST
Well M', you have to understand that I come at this as both a collector and a hobbyist, or, someone who wants the "toy" to actually function.

There are high end model collectors that build giant ships, planes, and the like, but these things can demand prices as high as 20k and more. When given what I just stated is actually not unusual at all, I suppose a mere 549.99, being only 1/5 of what I just described, it's not unusual. Still, it just seems odd that there would be fans who didn't care if the figure transformed or not.

I do look forward to seeing the features on this as well. Hopefully, for the model collector, it will meet that standard too.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532777)
Posted by Burn on December 1st, 2013 @ 1:39pm CST
Tronus_Rex wrote:it just seems odd that there would be fans who didn't care if the figure transformed or not.


I've encountered fans who didn't care about TF toys but were fans because of the comics.

There's also a rather large group of people out there that are TF fans because of the Bay movies.

We are a rather diverse bunch really.
Re: Gigantic Action: Scorponok Non Transforming Action Figure Pre-Order (1532784)
Posted by Dead Metal on December 1st, 2013 @ 2:00pm CST
Tronus_Rex wrote:Well M', you have to understand that I come at this as both a collector and a hobbyist, or, someone who wants the "toy" to actually function.

There are high end model collectors that build giant ships, planes, and the like, but these things can demand prices as high as 20k and more. When given what I just stated is actually not unusual at all, I suppose a mere 549.99, being only 1/5 of what I just described, it's not unusual. Still, it just seems odd that there would be fans who didn't care if the figure transformed or not.

I do look forward to seeing the features on this as well. Hopefully, for the model collector, it will meet that standard too.

I don't care if it transforms as long as it meets this criteria:
  • Fantastic robot-mode
  • fantastic detailing
  • Show/ Movie accurate
  • Good paint job
  • Good articulation

Oftentimes the toys have to sacrifice things in order to transform, quite often these sacrifices come at the cost of the robot mode's accuracy.
The concept of this franchise is "robots in disguise", the alt-mode is just that: an alternate-mode. Not the main-mode, the main-mode and standard form for that matter is the robot-mode.
We constantly have people complaining about a toy's alt-mode not being perfect enough, like ROTF Leader Starscream, Masterpiece Optimus Prime (both molds), THS G1 Optimus Prime.

If I care for a character and like the way his robot-mode looks, I want that robot-mode to be as close and good as possible, sometimes the normal toys are great or good enough for that, but often times, like Movies or Prime, they aren't.

And since these are robots, and I like robots, they are displayed in robot-mode, not alt-mode. IF I wanted to display a bunch of cars, trucks, planes etc I would go get models of those things, but since I like Transformers for the robots and characters I collect them for the robots. I guess I'm just weird like that.

For those fans who are absolutely infuriated that their almost perfectly show accurate Optimus Prime sacrifices alt-mode accuracy in favor of a good main mode to the point that they claim it's not worthy of the title Masterpice, well they can still just go and buy themselves a model truck and display that instead.

But official TF toys are the only source for this minority of people like me who like TFs for the characters and their robot-modes, so stuff like this is appreciated.

Granted, this thing is an odd example and choice, since his alt-mode isn't something from the real world and can easily be pulled off without sacrificing any of the robot-mode, its articulation, or detailing, but it's a step in the right direction.

An expensive step, but then again, it's huge, has diecast, probably isn't as hollow as your typical TF, has a decent amount of articulation, is pretty accurate, seems to have a crap ton of detail, and it's produced in extremely limited numbers. It is also priced pretty much the same as other figures of its class:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail
And that's not even an import.

And back on the topic of Unimetal Prime, that thing is not only huge, but made almost entirely of die-cast
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