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Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC

Transformers News: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC

Thursday, July 21st, 2016 11:10AM CDT

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Well Seibertronians, the time has come. Fresh from the San Diego Comic Con Breakfast Press Release, we bring to you our latest SDCC gallery: that of Combiner Wars Liokaiser! Liokaiser utilizes 5 combiner wars molds, which include Dezarus (yes that is correctly read) using Sky Lynx, Guyhawk from Air Raid, Fellbat (yeah...) from Sky Dive, Ironbison (no kill here) and Drillhorn from Brawl, and Ion Scythe from an old Arms Micron figure. All 4 deluxes utilize new heads while the combined Liokaiser form also has a brand new head. Check out a preview of the gallery below, and head HERE to view the whole thing!

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC

Transformers News: San Diego Comic Con Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Liokaiser Gallery #SDCC
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Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807475)
Posted by Kurona on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:11am CDT
Also, gotta love those new names made safe for the kiddies.

FELLBAT
IRONBISON

And best of all...

DEZARUS
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807479)
Posted by Randomhero on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:19am CDT
Kurona wrote:Also, gotta love those new names made safe for the kiddies.

FELLBAT
IRONBISON

And best of all...

DEZARUS



It's not like hellbat would have had that name if the original was released in the 80s in the US. Honestly Fellnat i think sounds cool. Reminds me of the Fellbeasts in lord of the rings
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807484)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:31am CDT
Dammit!! not a platinum!! I really had hoped this was retail!!!
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807485)
Posted by Tigertrack on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:32am CDT
I'm going to be 'that guy' now, but I need a Death Cobra, and Leozack two pack...

Actually gotta make it a three pack now, because we're missing Jagular or however you say it... so helicopter, a jet, and some kind of car... Plus an arms micron set to go with them to represent each of the animals (including the original sets' bots).

Still, it's nice to see this effort made.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807498)
Posted by autobot00 on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:45am CDT
the bottom of the box looks like it says platinum edition, its just in another language. look at the pic of the front on the bottom left.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807499)
Posted by Gearslide on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:47am CDT
Well, "Dezarus" is pretty much as uninteresting and disappointing as a lot of people were expecting.

On the plus side, all of the limb-bots look great, so a Third Party company could really just make a Deluxe-sized Leozack and Jallguar that combined into the torso like the original Liokaiser, and I'm sure they would do well.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807500)
Posted by Tigertrack on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:47am CDT
autobot00 wrote:the bottom of the box looks like it says platinum edition, its just in another language. look at the pic of the front on the bottom left.


I agree, I thought I saw that it said platinum too.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807501)
Posted by Kurona on July 21st, 2016 @ 11:49am CDT
Gearslide wrote:Well, "Dezarus" is pretty much as uninteresting and disappointing as a lot of people were expecting.

On the plus side, all of the limb-bots look great, so a Third Party company could really just make a Deluxe-sized Leozack and Jallguar that combined into the torso like the original Liokaiser, and I'm sure they would do well.

Only problem is how much that'd cost... especially on top of the fact to get those four limbs you don't just buy a full combiner set, you buy a full Platinum combiner set :SICK:
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807517)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:20pm CDT
Really hating on it for being platinum. I actually really wanted this thing
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807529)
Posted by Powermaster Swag on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:30pm CDT
I'm sure they could have retooled Sky Lynx better than that! I had high hopes for this figure. Not any more. :michaelbay:
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807530)
Posted by Kurona on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:32pm CDT
Powermaster Swag wrote:I'm sure they could have retooled Sky Lynx better than that! I had high hopes for this figure. Not any more. :michaelbay:

I just question why they went for a Sky Lynx retool period and not just make Silverbolt into Leozack. Beyond just shamelessly getting more uses out Sky Lynx there's absolutely no reason for it over ditching the most popular member of Liokaiser.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807535)
Posted by CommanderShadowmus on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:34pm CDT
Things that went wrong:
-Killbison renamed into Ironbison
-Hellbat renamed into Fellbat
-Killbison being toy-accurate gold instead of screen-accurate orange
-Killbison being a single-barreled tank and not a double-barreled tank
-Gaihawk being misspelled as Guyhawk
-Grey horns and batwings on the heads of Killbison and Hellbat
-Deszaras (just the whole figure)
-Black head on Liokaiser

Liokaiser is my favorite Combiner of them all and this actually kinda brings him to shame...
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807542)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:38pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Dammit!! not a platinum!! I really had hoped this was retail!!!

Platinums are still retail, just exclusive to a particular retailer. But its still retail. I am estimating 150$ for this set and then it will lower to 100$ from whichever retailer has it (either Target or Amazon) and that will make it about the same price people bought the other combiners at. I have no doubt people will be able to get this guy for 100$ in the end.

And I am surprized at how positive people are, even the more "negative" opinions.

As optimistic as I sometimes am, I think the combiner is a failure.

I wil say that I love the 2 jet arms, the headsculpts are awesome especially Fellbat. Thats wicked.

But I hate that brawl mold and is not like they changed anything to it aside from th headsculpts (unless I am wrong).

But to me the big slap on the face is the torso. Frankly, this doesnt look anything like Liokaiser. This is Liokaiser:

Image

Image

Image

What the fuck is this?

Image

That shit looks nothing like Liokaiser. They actually had a lionhead for the torso, and they paint it Black?! That unpainted plastic face looks bad too, it doesnt have that evil look Liokaiser usually has. It looks really off. Plus, the torso is all wrong. I have no clue why they couldnt just paint the chest all green to simulate the plane front. The black makes no sense there too. This looks like a third party toy doing a Neo G1 look to avoid copy right.

And Dezaurus looks like crap too. Skylynx at elast turned from a shuttle to a dinosaur bird but with these colours, that doesnt look like an alt mode in the least. It looks weird and goofy as all hell, making it totally useless. So all we end up with that is of any value with dezaurus is his "beast" mode (which looks nothing lik Deathsaurus) and a torso mode which looks nothing like Liokaiser's torso.

And he doesnt even come with the weapon on his box.

Image

Wipe that smile off your face!
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807543)
Posted by Gearslide on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:39pm CDT
CommanderShadowmus wrote:Things that went wrong:
-Killbison renamed into Ironbison
-Hellbat renamed into Fellbat
-Killbison being toy-accurate gold instead of screen-accurate orange
-Killbison being a single-barreled tank and not a double-barreled tank
-Gaihawk being misspelled as Guyhawk
-Grey horns and batwings on the heads of Killbison and Hellbat
-Deszaras (just the whole figure)
-Black head on Liokaiser

Liokaiser is my favorite Combiner of them all and this actually kinda brings him to shame...


Well, if Super Ginrai is any indication, there's always hope with Takara. Seems they'll go the extra mile if it means making the figure better.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807552)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:44pm CDT
I mean, I still like the looks of him. And I hope you're right about the dropping price. Makes me hope that I'll actually have money when he drops that low
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807553)
Posted by Kurona on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Wipe that smile off your face!

Woah... I've never seen you so angry at one particular toy :shock:

But yeah, generally I kinda agree with you. I do want that Hellbat and Guyhawk tho, individually those two are pretty rad
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807557)
Posted by Tigertrack on July 21st, 2016 @ 12:49pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Dammit!! not a platinum!! I really had hoped this was retail!!!

Platinums are still retail, just exclusive to a particular retailer. But its still retail. I am estimating 150$ for this set and then it will lower to 100$ from whichever retailer has it (either Target or Amazon) and that will make it about the same price people bought the other combiners at. I have no doubt people will be able to get this guy for 100$ in the end.

And I am surprized at how positive people are, even the more "negative" opinions.

As optimistic as I sometimes am, I think the combiner is a failure.

I wil say that I love the 2 jet arms, the headsculpts are awesome especially Fellbat. Thats wicked.

But I hate that brawl mold and is not like they changed anything to it aside from th headsculpts (unless I am wrong).

But to me the big slap on the face is the torso. Frankly, this doesnt look anything like Liokaiser. This is Liokaiser:

Image

Image

Image

What the **** is this?

Image

That **** looks nothing like Liokaiser. They actually had a lionhead for the torso, and they paint it Black?! That unpainted plastic face looks bad too, it doesnt have that evil look Liokaiser usually has. It looks really off. Plus, the torso is all wrong. I have no clue why they couldnt just paint the chest all green to simulate the plane front. The black makes no sense there too. This looks like a third party toy doing a Neo G1 look to avoid copy right.

And Dezaurus looks like crap too. Skylynx at elast turned from a shuttle to a dinosaur bird but with these colours, that doesnt look like an alt mode in the least. It looks weird and goofy as all hell, making it totally useless. So all we end up with that is of any value with dezaurus is his "beast" mode (which looks nothing lik Deathsaurus) and a torso mode which looks nothing like Liokaiser's torso.

And he doesnt even come with the weapon on his box.

Image

Wipe that smile off your face!


I wrote a post about how I disliked the tanks, the Brawl mode is terrible, and maybe they could get at least the TT Nosecone mold (Rook retool) for Drillhorn. But when I submitted it to the internet ate it.

And of course, I want the three missing members. I'm not a fan of the Dezaurus that they made, it's Shattered Glass Sky Lynx or something.

Lio's head and torso don't bother me much, it's not exactly G1, but it could be modern g1-update version sure.

I'm not like drop dead happy with this, but I'm okay with it being around for an option, and as a bridge to help introduce people to Japanese G1 that may not know anything about it.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807577)
Posted by Deadput on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:04pm CDT
CommanderShadowmus wrote:Things that went wrong:
-Killbison renamed into Ironbison
-Hellbat renamed into Fellbat
-Killbison being toy-accurate gold instead of screen-accurate orange
-Killbison being a single-barreled tank and not a double-barreled tank
-Gaihawk being misspelled as Guyhawk
-Grey horns and batwings on the heads of Killbison and Hellbat
-Deszaras (just the whole figure)
-Black head on Liokaiser

Liokaiser is my favorite Combiner of them all and this actually kinda brings him to shame...



1 and 2: Name changes is justified this is north America and these toys are for children they kinda can't have kill or hell in their toys names.

3: Oh no a character is only a slightly different color shade and looks like one version of him instead of another oh the horror!

4: Does it really matter how many cannons this guy has?

5: Two different spellings of the same name boo hoo.

6: and 8: Oh god color changes everything is terrible Hasblow has failed us again I couldn't just paint over the grey!

7: I agree bad mold choice but I think the paint is great on him.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807586)
Posted by Deadput on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
But to me the big slap on the face is the torso. Frankly, this doesnt look anything like Liokaiser. This is Liokaiser

Image

What the **** is this?

Image

That **** looks nothing like Liokaiser. They actually had a lionhead for the torso, and they paint it Black?! That unpainted plastic face looks bad too, it doesnt have that evil look Liokaiser usually has. It looks really off. Plus, the torso is all wrong. I have no clue why they couldnt just paint the chest all green to simulate the plane front. The black makes no sense there too. This looks like a third party toy doing a Neo G1 look to avoid copy right.





OH MY GOD THE COLOR IS BLACK INSTEAD OF GREEN END OF THE WORLD EH?!




william-james88 wrote:


Image

Wipe that smile off your face!




Someone is happy about toys at a toy convention how dare he!
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807590)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:12pm CDT
Tigertrack wrote:
I'm not like drop dead happy with this, but I'm okay with it being around for an option, and as a bridge to help introduce people to Japanese G1 that may not know anything about it.

Thats is a great way of looking at this and a very positive way to see it. Still doesnt make it better for those who know what is being referneced though :lol:
;)^
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807591)
Posted by RNSrobot on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:12pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:
CommanderShadowmus wrote:Things that went wrong:
-Killbison renamed into Ironbison
-Hellbat renamed into Fellbat
-Killbison being toy-accurate gold instead of screen-accurate orange
-Killbison being a single-barreled tank and not a double-barreled tank
-Gaihawk being misspelled as Guyhawk
-Grey horns and batwings on the heads of Killbison and Hellbat
-Deszaras (just the whole figure)
-Black head on Liokaiser

Liokaiser is my favorite Combiner of them all and this actually kinda brings him to shame...


Well, if Super Ginrai is any indication, there's always hope with Takara. Seems they'll go the extra mile if it means making the figure better.


... you actually thought there was a chance Hasbro was putting hell and kill on a retail item?

You don't have to like it but your list of "mistakes" is absurdly nitpicky and particular. He's the WRONG accurate? What's wrong with toy accurate vs show? And in theory the one tank has a double barreled gun - his hfg. I also disagree that his torso looks "nothing" like the original toy or toon. It's a solid representation imo. Good color placement, has wing things...

There's a long tradition of Japanese names featuring altered spellings for NA releases. Gaihawk/guyhawk, whatever. Same guy. We also got firefly, brake-neck, and quickslinger.

Please. Understand I'm not saying anybody needs to like or buy this. I criticize the level of specifity. I totally dig being meh on desaurus from sky lynx, or wishing they'd done a bit more retooling.

For me, I thought this was an easy pass but I really like it. New heads, great decos, finally some aerialbot retools, and I love the sky lynx mold. I have no connection to the original so for me I don't feel that understandable disappointment.

It's absurd Hasbro is doing something so obscure as it is. Hopefully Takara does a version that makes some of y'all happier.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807593)
Posted by Flashwave on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:13pm CDT
Tigertrack wrote:I'm going to be 'that guy' now, but I need a Death Cobra, and Leozack two pack...

Actually gotta make it a three pack now, because we're missing Jagular or however you say it... so helicopter, a jet, and some kind of car... Plus an arms micron set to go with them to represent each of the animals (including the original sets' bots).

Still, it's nice to see this effort made.

It's a shame TFCC wraps up this year. TFSS 6.0 would be exactly the right outlet for those three
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807595)
Posted by RNSrobot on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:14pm CDT
Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
But to me the big slap on the face is the torso. Frankly, this doesnt look anything like Liokaiser. This is Liokaiser

Image

What the **** is this?

Image

That **** looks nothing like Liokaiser. They actually had a lionhead for the torso, and they paint it Black?! That unpainted plastic face looks bad too, it doesnt have that evil look Liokaiser usually has. It looks really off. Plus, the torso is all wrong. I have no clue why they couldnt just paint the chest all green to simulate the plane front. The black makes no sense there too. This looks like a third party toy doing a Neo G1 look to avoid copy right.





OH MY GOD THE COLOR IS BLACK INSTEAD OF GREEN END OF THE WORLD EH?!




william-james88 wrote:


Image

Wipe that smile off your face!




Someone is happy about toys at a toy convention how dare he!


:APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807596)
Posted by Tigertrack on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:15pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:
Tigertrack wrote:I'm going to be 'that guy' now, but I need a Death Cobra, and Leozack two pack...

Actually gotta make it a three pack now, because we're missing Jagular or however you say it... so helicopter, a jet, and some kind of car... Plus an arms micron set to go with them to represent each of the animals (including the original sets' bots).

Still, it's nice to see this effort made.

It's a shame TFCC wraps up this year. TFSS 6.0 would be exactly the right outlet for those three


I was thinking that too. Maybe the next iteration of the club can do it?
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807602)
Posted by Flashwave on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:22pm CDT
Tigertrack wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
Tigertrack wrote:I'm going to be 'that guy' now, but I need a Death Cobra, and Leozack two pack...

Actually gotta make it a three pack now, because we're missing Jagular or however you say it... so helicopter, a jet, and some kind of car... Plus an arms micron set to go with them to represent each of the animals (including the original sets' bots).

Still, it's nice to see this effort made.

It's a shame TFCC wraps up this year. TFSS 6.0 would be exactly the right outlet for those three


I was thinking that too. Maybe the next iteration of the club can do it?

Hascon Exclusives? (or whatever that Trademark was) I hate that idea because of availability, unless they pipe that through HasbroToyShop afterwards... Maybe Hasbro will pick up the slack and start doing HTS exclusives... I can dream right?

So let's see, that means another Alpha Bravo/Vortex Repaint, an Air Raid, and Jallguar. You know, I actually have my Combiner Wars Mirage running around with his feet folded up in vehicle mode with he HandFootGun pegged in as a poisitionable howitzer gun, he might make a good Jallguar.

Now, about those Arms Microns...
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807606)
Posted by Tigertrack on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:24pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:
Tigertrack wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
Tigertrack wrote:I'm going to be 'that guy' now, but I need a Death Cobra, and Leozack two pack...

Actually gotta make it a three pack now, because we're missing Jagular or however you say it... so helicopter, a jet, and some kind of car... Plus an arms micron set to go with them to represent each of the animals (including the original sets' bots).

Still, it's nice to see this effort made.

It's a shame TFCC wraps up this year. TFSS 6.0 would be exactly the right outlet for those three


I was thinking that too. Maybe the next iteration of the club can do it?

Hascon Exclusives? (or whatever that Trademark was) I hate that idea because of availability, unless they pipe that through HasbroToyShop afterwards... Maybe Hasbro will pick up the slack and start doing HTS exclusives... I can dream right?

So let's see, that means another Alpha Bravo/Vortex Repaint, an Air Raid, and Jallguar. You know, I actually have my Combiner Wars Mirage running around with his feet folded up in vehicle mode with he HandFootGun pegged in as a poisitionable howitzer gun, he might make a good Jallguar.

Now, about those Arms Microns...


Yup, please HASBRO and thanks.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807612)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
Deadput wrote:
OH MY GOD THE COLOR IS BLACK INSTEAD OF GREEN END OF THE WORLD EH?!


Someone is happy about toys at a toy convention how dare he!

This site is made for us to discuss toys. Stop bullying people who do not share your opinions. I didnt direct my points to anyone, I was simply sharing. But you direct your comments directly against people, I dont need replies like this from you.

And the guy in the pic is the designer of the toy, not a fan at a convention, hence my comment.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807617)
Posted by RNSrobot on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Deadput wrote:
OH MY GOD THE COLOR IS BLACK INSTEAD OF GREEN END OF THE WORLD EH?!


Someone is happy about toys at a toy convention how dare he!

This site is made for us to discuss toys. Stop bullying people who do not share your opinions. I didnt direct my points to anyone, I was simply sharing. But you direct your comments directly against people, I dont need replies like this from you.

And the guy in the pic is the designer of the toy, not a fan at a convention, hence my comment.


You are not being bullied. Don't trivialize actually bullying with somebody taking a jab at you for your profanity laced whining about a toy.

And even if the guy is the designer, your comment was still shitty. You don't get to be a furious asshole about children's toys and then cry foul when somebody takes the piss out of you for it.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807618)
Posted by Deadput on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:This site is made for us to discuss toys. Stop bullying people who do not share your opinions. I didnt direct my points to anyone, I was simply sharing. But you direct your comments directly against people, I dont need replies like this from you.

And the guy in the pic is the designer of the toy, not a fan at a convention, hence my comment.



Yeah it's a discussion site of people with different opinions yes I'm not talking about my opinion I'm talking about the complaints which I find ridiculous


Seriously today is nothing positive on every Transformers website I've been on today people are complaining and complaining because something is not 100% what they imagined


Unless it's from Japan cause Takara is Jesus Christ reincarnated


I'm bummed and stressed out from trying to get excited for the news from the convention and for the new show but it's hard to get excited when everyone else is a negative nancy.




I hate the god damn fandom's attitude ruining my mood for the whole day.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807621)
Posted by Cobotron on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:39pm CDT
Deep breaths everyone. Deep breaths.
In through the nose.... slowly ..... out through the mouth.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807624)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:42pm CDT
Any word on when this guy is actually supposed to go up for availability? He needs to be my 10th and final combiner for combiner wars/unite warriors and I need to plan accordingly for when he may get discounted. Computron next month and Fort Max most likely in November, so maybe by January he will be reduced? Could mean a nice Birthday present for me!

Still kinda wish he had come with a legends Shockwave or something that could be some other character.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807628)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:43pm CDT
Deadput wrote:I'm bummed and stressed out from trying to get excited for the news from the convention and for the new show but it's hard to get excited when everyone else is a negative nancy.

I hate the god damn fandom's attitude ruining my mood for the whole day.

Then spread your joy. Comment on what you like. Because what you are doing instead is adding animosity. Your just being negative about negative people, that makes you as big a complainer. Be the example instead, step out of the crowd and give me an example of why I should be happy about these toys.

Bitching about people complaining about toys is the same as bitching about the toys. It's still just bitching. Its just the pot calling the kettle black. And all we get is more negativity.

Give your opinion and show me what I am not seeing. What do you like about this Liokaiser, tell me :)
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807642)
Posted by Deadput on July 21st, 2016 @ 1:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Then spread your joy. Comment on what you like. Because what you are doing instead is adding animosity. Your just being negative about negative people, that makes you as big a complainer. Be the example instead, step out of the crowd and give me an example of why I should be happy about these toys.

Bitching about people complaining about toys is the same as bitching about the toys. It's still just bitching. Its just the pot calling the kettle black. And all we get is more negativity.

Give your opinion and show me what I am not seeing. What do you like about this Liokaiser, tell me :)



I'm a human being everything I talk about is based on emotional response not any sense of logic or reasoning I'm 18 and done school so I'm still getting used to the transition of childhood and adult life (which all sucks so far) so I'm more easily frustrated these days so I apologize for coming off as a bully.


I'm not necessarily saying your wrong about your views on Liokaiser I just want to read positive comments and not make them I'm not a talker I can't communicate well with minor autism and anger issues so I like reading positive comments so I feel better.



But I really like how the combiner looks in combined form and I like the new heads and I like the colors and paint even if not entirely accurate it still looks good.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807655)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:05pm CDT
Deadput wrote:I really like how the combiner looks in combined form and I like the new heads and I like the colors and paint even if not entirely accurate it still looks good.

See? Your a natural at this :)

It is much easier to criticize, of course, so you will see more of it. Though if you go to the Titans Return threads you will see more positivity (except from me :twisted: (just kidding)). This toy was bound to get criticised since its a pretty big detour and a big case of reusing molds for the hell of it. Although I do give credit where credit is due, those heads look great!
Sadly though my favourite head was always Jagular (did I spel that right?) because he kinda looked like a shaman/werewolf. He would have been fun to be included.

An easy thing to do if ever you dont like what you are seeing is just appropriating what you are saying as your own feelings. So if someone complains about the colours you could say "I think those colours look great, thats an awesome schemefor a modernized version fo the toy". It still says what you meant to say but without being as agressive. And that would add positivity :)

Also, dont worry, I was that age once too, and I will tell you that the best period of my life (before the birth of my child) were those years from 18-21. You dont have to be an adult right away, its just the start, ease into it.


And girls your age are legal, oh yeah!
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807663)
Posted by Deadput on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:14pm CDT
Thanks for the words James reading those kind of comments is what I come here for.


Maybe I'll pop by in the other thread if I have time.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807664)
Posted by Flashwave on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:16pm CDT
Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Then spread your joy. Comment on what you like. Because what you are doing instead is adding animosity. Your just being negative about negative people, that makes you as big a complainer. Be the example instead, step out of the crowd and give me an example of why I should be happy about these toys.

Bitching about people complaining about toys is the same as bitching about the toys. It's still just bitching. Its just the pot calling the kettle black. And all we get is more negativity.

Give your opinion and show me what I am not seeing. What do you like about this Liokaiser, tell me :)



I'm a human being everything I talk about is based on emotional response not any sense of logic or reasoning I'm 18 and done school so I'm still getting used to the transition of childhood and adult life (which all sucks so far) so I'm more easily frustrated these days so I apologize for coming off as a bully.


I'm not necessarily saying your wrong about your views on Liokaiser I just want to read positive comments and not make them I'm not a talker I can't communicate well with minor autism and anger issues so I like reading positive comments so I feel better.



But I really like how the combiner looks in combined form and I like the new heads and I like the colors and paint even if not entirely accurate it still looks good.


Then let me jump in, because while I disagreed with the tone of Deadput's Post, I agree with what he was saying. Your post came across as somewhat accusatory, and then with Shadowmus' above it, kinda tipped the scales on "If you like this you're an idiot". Going back, and having had several conversations with ya, I can understand where "Wipe that smile off your face" was meant more sarcastic than attacking, but it didn't read that way to me, either. Water under the Bridge. (Spanner?)

I can certainly understand why people who are wanting a faithful Liokaiser (And full disclosure, I am still surprised Liokaiser has this much of a following!) will see so many things wrong with that torso, particularly on its own. For me though, it checks all the right silouhettes. Hasbro used the same standrds of picking a mold that FUnPub used, to get the key elements right. It has the Lionhead, even if they painted it the wrong color (and admittedly, I don't think Black was the right color for thwe head or the chest. Green for the helmet, but givent he colors makes me think those parts are gang molded, so the thruster housing would be green as well) and it has the wings on the chest. They are not as big as Leozack's, nor are they as prevalent. Leozack's chestplate form used not just the tailwings but also the main wings as well. Dezaras has to do it with just his stubby ailerons. But they are there. The only other gestalt that coulda given us a wing chest is Bruticus, but who could he have been that would make some sense? Jallguar? It could work, but I guarentee he would get as much backlash because he's not a missile buggy. At least Sky Lynx gave us a Monster Form like Dezaras has, and to me, as someone who is looking at pictures of toys, and not the cartoon or something I owned, the two biggest attributes of Liokaiser: Lion Helmet+Wing Chest.

Full disclosure: I don't care if this combiner was named barney Fife. It's another Decepticon COmbiner and I want that. More Cons.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807668)
Posted by Deadput on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:21pm CDT
I think they painted his helmet black for contrast so he did not look too green or something.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807671)
Posted by Cobotron on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:26pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Full disclosure: I don't care if this combiner was named Barney Fife. It's another Decepticon COmbiner and I want that. More Cons.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I agree with the more cons sentiment.
Luckily I have no emotional/nostalgic attachment to LionCaesar so I'm ok with most of this update/homage.
Although at this point I think I'm done with CW. We'll see.

Is the little falcon dude a new mold, or is it a re-purposed Micron?
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807672)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:26pm CDT
If I do manage to get this guy, I actually want to try turning the tanks 90 degrees so the turret is on the outside like the original toy, see how that looks. and, so long as it doesn't look weird, keep both tanks fully extended instead of flipping the feet up like Brawl's directions call for
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807673)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:27pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:
Flashwave wrote:Full disclosure: I don't care if this combiner was named Barney Fife. It's another Decepticon COmbiner and I want that. More Cons.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I agree with the more cons sentiment.
Luckily I have no emotional/nostalgic attachment to LionCaesar so I'm ok with most of this update/homage.
Although at this point I think I'm done with CW. We'll see.

Is the little falcon dude a new mold, or is it a re-purposed Micron?

Repurposed micron.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807674)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:27pm CDT
You saw the images of Liokaiser on the show floor and now we have the Official Images from Hasbro!

Below you will find the images for the bot mode and alt mode of Dezarus, Guyhawk, Fellbat, Ironbison, Drillhorn, and Ion Scythe. We still do not know when they will be released. The box seems to be a platinum release so this may be exclusive to one specific retailer (still unnanounced).

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Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807675)
Posted by Deadput on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:27pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Is the little falcon dude a new mold, or is it a re-purposed Micron?




It's a micron from Japan's arms micron voyager Starscream.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807676)
Posted by Kurona on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:27pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If I do manage to get this guy, I actually want to try turning the tanks 90 degrees so the turret is on the outside like the original toy, see how that looks. and, so long as it doesn't look weird, keep both tanks fully extended instead of flipping the feet up like Brawl's directions call for

Maybe try it out now with Brawl on a random torso to see how that works out.
I think you'd need the feet flipped for balance tbh.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807678)
Posted by Mindmaster on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:28pm CDT
Was not expecting new heads, even Sky Lynx/Leogarzaras! If TT doesn't step to the plate and make new molds for Leozack and Jallguar, then I'll be okay with these and just pray and wait out for a 3P set.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807684)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:32pm CDT
Ok, Those look really awesome now in the official images. I'm on board. He does look really nice, and i like the strange Dezarus. I do like him
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807685)
Posted by Cobotron on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:33pm CDT
WOW! Those heads sculpts ARE amazing. I could see why some are perturbed by the black paint on the LK combiner head. The teal would have worked fine, but it's not bad. Plus, I'll take a lion head cowl any day.

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Friends wrote:re-purposed Arms Micron
Thanks! ;)^
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807686)
Posted by Flashwave on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:34pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If I do manage to get this guy, I actually want to try turning the tanks 90 degrees so the turret is on the outside like the original toy, see how that looks. and, so long as it doesn't look weird, keep both tanks fully extended instead of flipping the feet up like Brawl's directions call for

Keeping both tanks fully extended is how one of the Hasbro Mockup pictures has him. It makes hiom look very long legged.

As to turning the tanks, remember the Combiner Knee joint is dependent on the big peg bending backwards. Turnign the leg sideways will turn the Knee. You might be able to use one of the Sky Lynx/Dezaras leg joints, but that will significantly decrease the length of the thigh.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807688)
Posted by Kurona on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:35pm CDT
What is the Arms Microns' revelance here, anyway? I'm not complaining, simply... very confused. It doesn't really resemble any of the Breastmasters; if it was a Breastmasters they would probably do the leader's Breastmaster first - and Deathsaurus had two so that's out the window. And as far as I can see it's not identified as a partner character anyway.
A little perplexed who """Ion Scythe""" is.

Also yeah, those heads are so great. I kind of just want to get the limbs on their own; if I could get my hands on just Hellbat and Guyhawk I'd be happy. They look so cool and Guyhawk's vehicle mode deco in particular is a beauty.
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807689)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:36pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If I do manage to get this guy, I actually want to try turning the tanks 90 degrees so the turret is on the outside like the original toy, see how that looks. and, so long as it doesn't look weird, keep both tanks fully extended instead of flipping the feet up like Brawl's directions call for

Keeping both tanks fully extended is how one of the Hasbro Mockup pictures has him. It makes hiom look very long legged.

As to turning the tanks, remember the Combiner Knee joint is dependent on the big peg bending backwards. Turnign the leg sideways will turn the Knee. You might be able to use one of the Sky Lynx/Dezaras leg joints, but that will significantly decrease the length of the thigh.

I have been standing my combiners Straight legged for the shelf, so that really isn't too big an issue withe me
Re: Hasbro Press Event: Transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Revealed!!! #HasbroSDCC (1807690)
Posted by Flashwave on July 21st, 2016 @ 2:37pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If I do manage to get this guy, I actually want to try turning the tanks 90 degrees so the turret is on the outside like the original toy, see how that looks. and, so long as it doesn't look weird, keep both tanks fully extended instead of flipping the feet up like Brawl's directions call for

Keeping both tanks fully extended is how one of the Hasbro Mockup pictures has him. It makes hiom look very long legged.

As to turning the tanks, remember the Combiner Knee joint is dependent on the big peg bending backwards. Turnign the leg sideways will turn the Knee. You might be able to use one of the Sky Lynx/Dezaras leg joints, but that will significantly decrease the length of the thigh.

I have been standing my combiners Straight legged for the shelf, so that really isn't too big an issue withe me

Then in that case, it shoudl work beautifuly for ya. ;)^

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