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HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here!

Transformers News: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here!

Tuesday, February 10th, 2009 5:01AM CST

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We've known that this has been coming for years.

Since the Heavy Metal Warriors first faced off against each other back in 2003 we have seen HMW grow and develop into the wargame we all know and love to hate, but we also knew its time was running out and a new world would one day take its place.

Then, a month ago, this was released: The first teaser for HMW2.
The first peek into a whole new world and whet the appetite for what was to come.

Now, thanks to Omega Sentinel, we can get our next insight in to how some aspects of the future of Heavy Metal War will change.
Concentrating on the new dual-wield weapon systems and introducing the concept of 'Spark Points' to your transformations, the programmer who has taken Heavy Metal War and made it just that little bit more Heavy presents...


Alts and Ammo! The second trailer for Heavy Metal War II
Sorry the quality is kind of bad. Best I could do with a short amount of time.


There ya go folks, the words of a genius.

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Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881845)
Posted by Hoistimus on February 10th, 2009 @ 6:49am CST
I assume this will mean a reset (for everyone) once HMW2 is started?

Not that I mind, wouldn't be the first time I lost a top 10 position, I'll gain it back :)

Anyway, my original meaning to post was to ask the question: Any estimate on when we might actually get to see HMW2 implemented?

And if Burn and friends need any bots to help beta test HMW2, I'm always available..
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881877)
Posted by Omega Sentinel on February 10th, 2009 @ 8:03am CST
Hoistimus wrote:Anyway, my original meaning to post was to ask the question: Any estimate on when we might actually get to see HMW2 implemented?
The goal is May

Kickyourassacons wrote:Sounds pretty cool and I am very excited for the opening day. These new features wont take more time will they? I like this game because I can play while I am at work but I wouldn't have time for the game if HMW2 requires much more of it. I like how I can just throw guys in missions and forget about it.
If you want to dump players into missions and go to work you can continue to do so. The goal with the game is to offer depth while allowing the simpler game to be played for those that choose it. So far that seems to be coming together nicely.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881898)
Posted by Editor on February 10th, 2009 @ 9:05am CST
So those of us that play at work can continue to dump and run, Excelent planning, OS.

Thank you for thinking of these aspects, that shows again how much thought you've put into this. Kudos.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881904)
Posted by Dragonslayer on February 10th, 2009 @ 9:23am CST
I must say, this look pretty damn cool. I'm a little confused about how stuff works, but I'm always confused about stuff, especially when it comes to starting new games like this :P

But it looks as if I can figure stuff out quickly on the fly (experimentation/trial and error). I'm eager to see the new weapons system myself, and the altmode system looks interesting to me too.

Awesome work, OS! Can't wait for this to come out! 8)
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881905)
Posted by Me, Grimlock! on February 10th, 2009 @ 9:27am CST
When will this be released for the Xbox 360?



Huh? What? What? Stop laughing at me.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881925)
Posted by devast8or on February 10th, 2009 @ 10:05am CST
UltraPrimal wrote:My only question is when? I haven't played HMW in ages, but this is the sort of thing that could get me back into it.


Good grief! UP, you've got a lot of questions to answer in your "what advice would UP give" thread... :lol:

good to c ur still around these parts
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881980)
Posted by Scantron on February 10th, 2009 @ 11:38am CST
Looking great so far. With all the times V2 has been 'just around the corner', I was fairly cynical about this attempt going anywhere...but this trailer's convinced me that this is for real and the new game is going to be very impressive. May is a long way off, but I can't wait to give V2 a shot.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881986)
Posted by Booda on February 10th, 2009 @ 11:56am CST
Psychout wrote:So, opinions please people...

Are you sure...?

The whole thing gives me an overall "meh" feeling. It's like the original game, but with more numbers. I don't necessarily construe that as an improvement.

There's something about alt modes and spark points that just seem totally counter-intuitive to me. First, that transforming from a robot warrior into a slowly accelerating, difficult-to-maneuver Earth vehicle (aka a semi-truck) has any advantage at all doesn't make sense. This is a limitation on the gameplay itself I think, as it reserves itself almost entirely to combat, so aspects of alt modes that would be beneficial outside of combat are either not going to make sense or are going to be omitted.

Second, there's never been any inherent cost to a transformation other than the time to do it and perhaps some exertion comparable maybe to walking up a short flight of stairs. In the lore, transforming was actually a method of conserving energy; not expending it.

It sounds like Spark Points are going to be used like "Mana Points," or "Magic Points," or "Action Points," or whatever tub-o-resource the game uses. Can't say I'm excited about this. I was disappointed in HMW1 that alt modes did nothing aside from random special attacks. Spark Points say to me that alt modes are just going to be represented by "So-and-so transforms into a whats-it and does a special attack!" Except now there's an MP cost.

I always wanted to see my transformers transform and... well, stay that way. If you have a strategic advantage as a fighter jet strafing the battlefield (no, not that strafing), why would you bother with robot mode? I feel like there's a lot of design space missing.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (881990)
Posted by neliz on February 10th, 2009 @ 12:05pm CST
did you just kill the entire transformers franchise GI JOe?
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882017)
Posted by Kickyourassacons on February 10th, 2009 @ 1:03pm CST
Thanks for the reply OS. I am glad to hear that I can still work and play HMW2 at the same time. I would hate to have my job conflict with the game :P
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882031)
Posted by Symbiote Spiderman14 on February 10th, 2009 @ 1:24pm CST
The only thing that might concern me is if the allspark limits us on how much we can play to much like ap points in other games. I don't play this version much anymore but I am looking forward to getting back to my long nights at work at playing the new version.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882042)
Posted by Mogwai Prime on February 10th, 2009 @ 1:40pm CST
Omega Sentinel wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xbrKnASHAk


Sorry the quality is kind of bad. Best I could do with a short amount of time.


I can attest to the CPU scramble! I just kicked my own @$$!!! Psychout I owe you one :P
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882045)
Posted by Chaoslock on February 10th, 2009 @ 1:47pm CST
So, there will be a tactic that makes Kremzeek out of an enemy? I want a permanent stasus of those on one of my cons! :twisted:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882049)
Posted by Omega Sentinel on February 10th, 2009 @ 1:53pm CST
Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:The only thing that might concern me is if the allspark limits us on how much we can play to much like ap points in other games. I don't play this version much anymore but I am looking forward to getting back to my long nights at work at playing the new version.

Spark points do not inhibit play. You can ironbot in the new game, you will just have to do it without your alt modes if you decide not to let your spark rest.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882057)
Posted by devast8or on February 10th, 2009 @ 2:03pm CST
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:The only thing that might concern me is if the allspark limits us on how much we can play to much like ap points in other games. I don't play this version much anymore but I am looking forward to getting back to my long nights at work at playing the new version.

Spark points do not inhibit play. You can ironbot in the new game, you will just have to do it without your alt modes if you decide not to let your spark rest.

...and iron-botting is working just fine in the new universe :grin:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882058)
Posted by Judge Chuckachu on February 10th, 2009 @ 2:07pm CST
OS -> :APPLAUSE: Seriously. :APPLAUSE:

And now with the bottom kissing over...I assume the beast factions will be working the same just cosmetically different?
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882088)
Posted by Kickyourassacons on February 10th, 2009 @ 3:13pm CST
Will there be an area where you could check your indepth stats on your individual characters? Similar to what the "XP Games" are but have it done automatically. I really like to see how my guys are doing but it happens once a week and the VERY generous Fearless Echoes pulls the work. I feel guilty asking for the breakdowns. It would be cool if the game did all this work instead of a single individual. Maybe even count the hours the person is playing. To see if your team is performing really well or are you crunching in the time to make up for the poor performance.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882096)
Posted by Omega Sentinel on February 10th, 2009 @ 3:31pm CST
Kickyourassacons wrote:Will there be an area where you could check your indepth stats on your individual characters? Similar to what the "XP Games" are but have it done automatically. I really like to see how my guys are doing but it happens once a week and the VERY generous Fearless Echoes pulls the work. I feel guilty asking for the breakdowns. It would be cool if the game did all this work instead of a single individual. Maybe even count the hours the person is playing. To see if your team is performing really well or are you crunching in the time to make up for the poor performance.

Yes. May not be exactly what you are envisioning but the game will track many things that will be accessible in your "stats" tab.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882110)
Posted by neliz on February 10th, 2009 @ 3:50pm CST
Kickyourassacons wrote:To see if your team is performing really well or are you crunching in the time to make up for the poor performance.


Hey, don't get personal!
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882114)
Posted by Redimus GTS on February 10th, 2009 @ 4:00pm CST
Omega Sentinel wrote:May not be exactly what you are envisioning but the game will track many things that will be accessible in your "stats" tab.


This is good news, it means there might still be a place for my services! (I do it becuase I enjoy it, and whilst I would fully understand if my service was rendered suplus to requirments, I would miss having something like that to do.)
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882132)
Posted by King Slick on February 10th, 2009 @ 4:35pm CST
This really is getting interesting. Do I continue to run with seintient clankers, or join with the pointer ears against the oversized savages. I only have so much free time. So...I grab the quiver with my fore and middle finger and my thumb...aim at the target and...*arrow hits Wheelie in the right optic servo* Whoops. My vision is far from being as sharp as one of them pointy ears.

*Sees Grimlock ready to suffer from a serious case of rage* Gulp! Twilghter! I NEED YOU KNOW! *leaps onto a Helfeiger and rides off in a hurry from an angey robo-Rex*
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882156)
Posted by Kickyourassacons on February 10th, 2009 @ 5:33pm CST
Fearless Echoes wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:May not be exactly what you are envisioning but the game will track many things that will be accessible in your "stats" tab.


This is good news, it means there might still be a place for my services! (I do it becuase I enjoy it, and whilst I would fully understand if my service was rendered suplus to requirments, I would miss having something like that to do.)


I think I share the same feelings as the rest of the 51 other people that you help out :APPLAUSE: I am sure though that when HMW2 releases you will have another opportunity to create a stats tracker of some sort. I am still amazed that you can keep track of all of us and post our scores every week :APPLAUSE: I didn't want to replace you, I just thought this was turning out to be a burden. But my thoughts were wrong as you enjoy this task.

Also thanks OS for the answer
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882175)
Posted by Galvatron Supreme on February 10th, 2009 @ 6:00pm CST
Kickyourassacons wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:May not be exactly what you are envisioning but the game will track many things that will be accessible in your "stats" tab.


[color=red] I am still amazed that you can keep track of all of us and post our scores every week :APPLAUSE: I didn't want to replace you, I just thought this was turning out to be a burden. But my thoughts were wrong as you enjoy this task.

Also thanks OS for the answer


Red is apparently a glutton for punishment. :grin:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882177)
Posted by Redimus GTS on February 10th, 2009 @ 6:04pm CST
Yes. I am, lol.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882194)
Posted by Down_Shift on February 10th, 2009 @ 6:59pm CST
Lookin' good bitches, lookin' good.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882204)
Posted by Pariah on February 10th, 2009 @ 7:25pm CST
hmmmm... link not working for me. I must smell. Cant wait though :)
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882241)
Posted by Ouroboros on February 10th, 2009 @ 9:34pm CST
Is this worth breaking my recent bout of silence? I reckon so! Good work OS, can't wait to see the thing up and running!

This might be an inappropriate thing to ask, but what will happen in terms of balencing the factions, will it be a similar situation to what we have now, with the numbers allowed in missions?
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882312)
Posted by neliz on February 11th, 2009 @ 2:01am CST
Hollow One wrote:This might be an inappropriate thing to ask, but what will happen in terms of balencing the factions, will it be a similar situation to what we have now, with the numbers allowed in missions?


Mission structure is totally different so the number of players will have less of an effect.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882426)
Posted by Starlock on February 11th, 2009 @ 8:47am CST
neliz wrote:
Hollow One wrote:This might be an inappropriate thing to ask, but what will happen in terms of balencing the factions, will it be a similar situation to what we have now, with the numbers allowed in missions?


Mission structure is totally different so the number of players will have less of an effect.



I be quite looking forward to that and seeing how he got that whole issue fix with whatever idea it was.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882431)
Posted by Omega Sentinel on February 11th, 2009 @ 8:56am CST
Starlock wrote:
neliz wrote:
Hollow One wrote:This might be an inappropriate thing to ask, but what will happen in terms of balencing the factions, will it be a similar situation to what we have now, with the numbers allowed in missions?


Mission structure is totally different so the number of players will have less of an effect.



I be quite looking forward to that and seeing how he got that whole issue fix with whatever idea it was.
I've said this for a long time...Balance is the fault of a game, not the players.

The game will have built in functions to make each side playable and missions will be different. On top of that, missions will only be a part of what you can do.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882794)
Posted by Black Eyes on February 11th, 2009 @ 5:33pm CST
Look'n good OS....can't frig'n wait to actually play it!

I'm diggin pretty much everything your doing with V2.0, it looks like it will be much more open to customizing your Transformers which will be great :grin:

After seeing the teaser and now the trailer I've got a bazzillion questions running through my head...but I'm sure they will be answered in due time :mrgreen:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (882941)
Posted by Starlock on February 11th, 2009 @ 10:49pm CST
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Starlock wrote:
neliz wrote:
Hollow One wrote:This might be an inappropriate thing to ask, but what will happen in terms of balencing the factions, will it be a similar situation to what we have now, with the numbers allowed in missions?


Mission structure is totally different so the number of players will have less of an effect.



I be quite looking forward to that and seeing how he got that whole issue fix with whatever idea it was.
I've said this for a long time...Balance is the fault of a game, not the players.

The game will have built in functions to make each side playable and missions will be different. On top of that, missions will only be a part of what you can do.


I think people be naming their children after you :P
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883336)
Posted by Blackstreak on February 12th, 2009 @ 5:30pm CST
My question is in regards to weapon wielding. What benefit is there to wielding only one weapon? Obviously wielding 2 gives you more attacks, and wielding a 2-hander may potentially give more damage. This is typically how it should work anyways. So why would I NOT want to dual or 2-H wield?

BTW, I had pretty much quit playing HMW for the typical reasons of not really standing a chance w/ there being an overpowering of Decepticons versus Autobots. But this has got me excited.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883357)
Posted by Psychout on February 12th, 2009 @ 6:51pm CST
Blackstreak wrote:My question is in regards to weapon wielding. What benefit is there to wielding only one weapon? Obviously wielding 2 gives you more attacks, and wielding a 2-hander may potentially give more damage. This is typically how it should work anyways. So why would I NOT want to dual or 2-H wield?


Each indivdual shot will cost you energon, which will be scarce. You wouldn't want to blow it all on bullets if you'll need it to cover your CR costs.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883385)
Posted by Kickyourassacons on February 12th, 2009 @ 8:10pm CST
Will there be a repair tactic? and if so will there be a xp gain for the % you repair, like ram? Its hard to to get people to want to have a repair character because he doesn't produce much xp. This would create a "Team" battle and not individual performance.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883472)
Posted by neliz on February 13th, 2009 @ 3:11am CST
It would create "classes" much like any rpg, with ranged attackers, close combat, medics, maybe "stealthy/sneak" etc. but implementation of that should be beneficial on a level beyond what it is now. with experience being able to increase your proficiency with said tactic automatically instead of you dumping points in it..
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883478)
Posted by Psychout on February 13th, 2009 @ 4:17am CST
Judging from the tests so far, I think we can safely say that repair has been um... repaired.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883483)
Posted by CheshiredaCat on February 13th, 2009 @ 4:36am CST
As the top pred i only think it is fair that u let me in on the beta so i can test it for my fellow preds.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883485)
Posted by Psychout on February 13th, 2009 @ 4:43am CST
Nice try, felix. :lol:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883493)
Posted by Redimus GTS on February 13th, 2009 @ 5:10am CST
Kickyourassacons wrote:Its hard to to get people to want to have a repair character because he doesn't produce much xp.


You're clearly doing it wrong. My medic rocks, Ask Wingspan. Of course, you do need allies with some endurence.

CheshiredaCat wrote:As the top pred i only think it is fair that u let me in on the beta so i can test it for my fellow preds.


As by far the biggest loud mouth in the preds, I declare that I should be allowed on the testing team! :P
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883495)
Posted by Burn on February 13th, 2009 @ 5:15am CST
I was talking to OS earlier and he said he'll probably add a few more beta testers. IN JULY! bwahahahahaha ... suckers for reading this small near invisible text ... and those who didn't!
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883520)
Posted by neliz on February 13th, 2009 @ 7:13am CST
Burn wrote:I was talking to OS earlier and he said he'll probably add a few more beta testers. IN JULY! bwahahahahaha ... suckers for reading this small near invisible text ... and those who didn't!


Cool.. does it go by number? I remember asking publicly first in the first hmwv2 facts thread :grin:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883560)
Posted by Omega Sentinel on February 13th, 2009 @ 9:20am CST
Burn wrote:I was talking to OS earlier and he said he'll probably add a few more beta testers. IN JULY! bwahahahahaha ... suckers for reading this small near invisible text ... and those who didn't!

I did? :shock:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883564)
Posted by Jeep? on February 13th, 2009 @ 9:28am CST
You also said I can have your car.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883570)
Posted by Omega Sentinel on February 13th, 2009 @ 9:38am CST
Jeep? wrote:You also said I can have your car.

I did?? :shock:

My RX-8?? :shock: :shock:
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883576)
Posted by Jeep? on February 13th, 2009 @ 9:55am CST
Yep. If it helps, you're getting my old boots.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883582)
Posted by Judge Chuckachu on February 13th, 2009 @ 10:19am CST
And my AXE!
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883608)
Posted by Editor on February 13th, 2009 @ 11:42am CST
And you have my bow.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883619)
Posted by devast8or on February 13th, 2009 @ 12:09pm CST
Congratulations General Solo...it appears you have a team ready to deploy to the southern region of Endor.
Re: HMW: The first trailer for HMW2 is here! (883635)
Posted by Black Eyes on February 13th, 2009 @ 12:49pm CST
Psychout wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:My question is in regards to weapon wielding. What benefit is there to wielding only one weapon? Obviously wielding 2 gives you more attacks, and wielding a 2-hander may potentially give more damage. This is typically how it should work anyways. So why would I NOT want to dual or 2-H wield?


Each indivdual shot will cost you energon, which will be scarce. You wouldn't want to blow it all on bullets if you'll need it to cover your CR costs.


So does this mean how we earn energon/exp will be diffrent come V2..or will it be a similar to the current version?

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