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Posted by Robogeek1973 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 11:46am CDT
mooncake623 wrote:TFYUKI just tweeted out an in-package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor! This image shows that Unite Warriors Menasor's packaging will be in the same style of their Superion! Check out the image mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!
Awesome, I can't wait for Menasor as well.
Posted by william-james88 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 11:59am CDT
Robogeek1973 wrote:mooncake623 wrote:TFYUKI just tweeted out an in-package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor! This image shows that Unite Warriors Menasor's packaging will be in the same style of their Superion! Check out the image mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!
Awesome, I can't wait for Menasor as well.
I wonder what his litograph will be like.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:02pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
Scale issues in a mytho that uses mass shifting as an all around excuse/explanation?
I thought Transformers or the Transformers lifeform is always "improving" or changing /transforming? Mixmaster, though no longer toy accurate is also based on an actual vehicle so no biggy an issue.
That's all well and good. But X wanted to pose this devy along with the other CW combiners into a show accurate scale and replace his 3rd party toy. But since it turns out Hasbro went for a much bigger scale for devastator, he cant. This has nothing to do with what makes sense and doesnt make sense, its just about him wanting his toys to look good together on the shelf and since this Devastator is not in scale with the other CW combiners (and their 3rd party counterparts), he wont buy it. Simple as that. I dont get why we have to constantly debate this. everyone is free to have their own reasons as to why they will or wont buy something.
And he keeps repeating this for the upteenth time. He already made his intentions as such or haven't you noticed?
Posted by Gearslide on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:11pm CDT
Do they not realize that he seems to have been engineered to look like either type of cement truck, depending on the direction you face him?
This is especially evident when you look at the Takara version and its paint apps. No front loader Cement Truck has that main windows on their back. And from what I understand, that back piece of a Front Loader is normally an engine block, with no windows at all. Normally there's a big vent on the face of it. There's no way it's an accident that they made Mixmaster work in both directions.
You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:13pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
Posted by Emerje on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:O hai, RobotKingdom with your $179.90 preorder price - http://www.robotkingdom.com/tuwuw04.html
So here's the price prediction I made in the CW Devastator thread:
With that we might be able to predict the Japanese MSRP on Devastator at US$179.99 or around ¥22,300
I was off by 9 cents.
Don't trust the prices from BBTS and TFSource as they're marked up to include importing costs and additional profits. Robotkingdom's MSRP of 25,000JPY most certainly includes sales tax for them to sell at that price so it's more like 23,000JPY. Factor in AmiAmi's typical discount and they'll probably have it possibly as low as 17,250JPY or US$140, effectively making it cheaper than either Hasbro version. Shipping will no doubt bring it up to a little over SDCC Devi's price, but that's hardly a complaint.
If everyone is putting pre-orders up then we should expect Japanese sites to put theirs up soon. Maybe tonight or next week.
Emerje
Posted by Va'al on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:17pm CDT
Takara Tomy's Unite Warrior devastator includes all 6 Constructicons: Mixmaster, Scrapper, Long Haul, Scavenger, Bonecrusher & Hook which unite to form the mighty Devastator! This set is rumored to include elbow joints, individual weapons, more paint apps, purple devastator hands and more!
Transformers Unite Warriors - UW-04 - Devastator
Posted by Emerje on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:26pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
Posted by Robogeek1973 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 1:49pm CDT
Posted by Desslok2201 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 3:34pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 2nd, 2015 @ 3:39pm CDT
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 2nd, 2015 @ 3:54pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
And with that, Takara officially CRUSHES it with Unite Warriors Devastator. Seriously, I don't think there is anything you can say about the Hasbro version at this point that's a clear advantage over the Takara version (besides price, obviously).
Posted by Gearslide on July 2nd, 2015 @ 4:09pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
It's not so much a new cab as it is paint on pre-existing detail. Takara put Silver on the "Engine" to bring attention to the pseudo-grill already on the mold.
I was saying it since we first saw Combiner Wars Mixmaster in detail: The detailing is there to make him work in either direction in vehicle mode. It's just that Takara is the only one putting paint on the detail to make it apparent.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 2nd, 2015 @ 4:40pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
It's not so much a new cab as it is paint on pre-existing detail. Takara put Silver on the "Engine" to bring attention to the pseudo-grill already on the mold.
I was saying it since we first saw Combiner Wars Mixmaster in detail: The detailing is there to make him work in either direction in vehicle mode. It's just that Takara is the only one putting paint on the detail to make it apparent.
Ah... so it keeps the vent detailing in the back. Cheaters.
Posted by Agamemnon on July 2nd, 2015 @ 4:52pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on July 2nd, 2015 @ 6:20pm CDT
Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.
In your face, X!
Posted by Gearslide on July 2nd, 2015 @ 6:34pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.
In your face, X!
Using vehicles as your scale example is not the way to go, especially on this series. You have fighter jets the size of sportscars, Firetrucks the size of Commercial Passenger Planes, and Tanks the size of Ambulances.
The thing is, the characters go off of robot scale more. Especially compared to the G1 cartoon/comics. While Scramble City teams always had a big guy and 4 normal sized guys (Normal sized being the standard for most Autobots; Decepticons tended to be hefty fellas at the beginning of the series), the Constructicons have always been the same height evenly throughout the team. And they weren't small dudes in the cartoon. When the animation was right, they stood the same height as Seekers and just under the height of Megs, Soundwave, Shockwave, etc.
Unfortunately, making the Constructicons scale in robot mode with other character's robot modes, makes Devastator a very large fellow.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 6:50pm CDT
But if we do compare the actual scale of a Caterpillar vehichle like Longhaul over a military or civilian vehicle, the Constructicons do tower over all others. That and perhaps agains the never been released Raiden team.
Back to my old argument, though it can be really crazy with all sorts of sizes for TF figures like a Goldilocks porridge, I too would want some sanity imposed but for Devastator? He just fit right.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on July 2nd, 2015 @ 7:02pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.
In your face, X!
Using vehicles as your scale example is not the way to go, especially on this series. You have fighter jets the size of sportscars, Firetrucks the size of Commercial Passenger Planes, and Tanks the size of Ambulances.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 2nd, 2015 @ 7:09pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 2nd, 2015 @ 7:24pm CDT
Posted by Gearslide on July 2nd, 2015 @ 7:35pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 2nd, 2015 @ 7:47pm CDT
I don't see that happening since both Giant and Hercules both fulfilled the need for a Supreme Class-sized Devastator made of six Deluxe-sized figures (as opposed to a Titan class-sized one made of us six Voyager-sized figures) quite a while ago, and I can't see yet a third 3rd-party Devastator being any cheaper than either of those two.Gearslide wrote:Hmmm... All this demand for a smaller Devastator makes me wonder if we'll see a company down the road make a knock-off of the Constructicons that are smaller scaled to be the same height as the other teams in combined mode.
Posted by Emerje on July 2nd, 2015 @ 7:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The real problem in all of this scale talk isn't that Devastator's too big. It's that Superion, Menasor, Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, Optimus Maximus, Bruticus, Sky Reign, and Victorion are all too SMALL.
Yep, this. 20 years from now I fully expect Leader class torsos and Voyager limbs for all.
Actually the way Takara Tomy improved these I'm really not against sticking the Constructicons with MPs. Articulated hands be damned, most Voyagers look pretty good with MPs. They'll be just a little taller than an MP car which is a good size I think.
Emerje
Posted by fenrir72 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 8:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The real problem in all of this scale talk isn't that Devastator's too big. It's that Superion, Menasor, Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, Optimus Maximus, Bruticus, Sky Reign, and Victorion are all too SMALL.
Scale talk issues from not more than five posters not less than one. So it ain't a big issue really except for space or funding availability. Let's all be honest, it's money out of our wallets again and hopefully our pockets can still sustain it by Christmas or early January.
Posted by shajaki on July 2nd, 2015 @ 8:49pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 9:07pm CDT
shajaki wrote:My speculation of price:
So what would that roughly translate to, and what would shipping from amiami cost to have it sent to Illinois? (never imported anything, so I don't know how the process woks)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 2nd, 2015 @ 9:22pm CDT
18400 yen = ~$149.59 USDHellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:My speculation of price:
So what would that roughly translate to,
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 9:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:18400 yen = ~$149.59 USDHellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:My speculation of price:
So what would that roughly translate to,
So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 2nd, 2015 @ 9:46pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 9:54pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?
Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 2nd, 2015 @ 10:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?
Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.
So essentially, shipping is going to be so outrageous, I could go with tfscource and score some points and get free shipping, and not have to deal with extraneous complications? Sounds like a solid deal to me. Who're you using to get him? amiami?
Posted by william-james88 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 1:09am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?
Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.
So essentially, shipping is going to be so outrageous, I could go with tfscource and score some points and get free shipping, and not have to deal with extraneous complications? Sounds like a solid deal to me. Who're you using to get him? amiami?
Yup, I will be using amiami, or HLJ, whoever. You being in the states, you have a ton of options. In the end, everyone will get him for anywhere between 220-250$ US shipped, not below. You will get that by using TF source with their free shipping. Me in Canada (and a ton of other international places) will have to rely on a cheaper japan website so that we pay to import it ourselves. What sucks about BBTS or TFsource for non americans is that you are paying shipping twice. Once in terms of the premium those sites give you to cover their importing costs and the second time is the actual shipping. While you might find the shipping outrageous, that is exactly how much it costs to ship something from BBTS to Canada.
Amiami does give me points too though, so thats fun.
Anyways all I meant to say is that the talk of cheaper retailers is not to beat the BBTS price, it is to end up getting that same price shipped when out of the states.
Posted by MemphisR56 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 5:39am CDT
Unite Warriors Devastator Preorders are open on Kapow Toys, £1.50 deposit.
Projected full price is £150 - £180.
Preordered mine last night.
http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformers-unite-warriors-uw-04-devastator-deposit.html
Posted by noctorro on July 3rd, 2015 @ 5:43am CDT
Now more then ever.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:29am CDT
The colors so vibrant.......I'm gonna get the Ocean decals to even make him more awesome.
Quite surprising though that TFYUki added Powerglide in his twitter pics yet PG isn't mentioned at all in the instruction manual.
2 months more then Menasor commeth!
Posted by Cobotron on July 3rd, 2015 @ 8:57am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:UW-01 just arrived.I'm speechless. First time I got a new combiner and he looks good.
HooooRAY!
Congrats Fen. I'm glad your happy with him. The wait must have been a killer. Especially with us waving our combiners in your face for the last several months.
Have fun wit dem robits buddy!
Posted by fenrir72 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 9:01am CDT
Cobotron wrote:fenrir72 wrote:UW-01 just arrived.I'm speechless. First time I got a new combiner and he looks good.
HooooRAY!
Congrats Fen. I'm glad your happy with him. The wait must have been a killer. Especially with us waving our combiners in your face for the last several months.
Have fun wit dem robits buddy!
You are very much welcomed kimosabe! Even more painful is the Devy wait I hope this version of Superion won't have that cracking parts like the one reported by one of our members.
Posted by shajaki on July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:07am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:23am CDT
shajaki wrote:Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?
Him and I both and I havent even recieved by Ta superion yet I really hope he isnt held at customs, that would suck HARD.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:26am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?
Taxes differ by country and if customs choses your pack or not. Shipping would be about 50$ US or less I suppose.
So essentially, shipping is going to be so outrageous, I could go with tfscource and score some points and get free shipping, and not have to deal with extraneous complications? Sounds like a solid deal to me. Who're you using to get him? amiami?
Yup, I will be using amiami, or HLJ, whoever. You being in the states, you have a ton of options. In the end, everyone will get him for anywhere between 220-250$ US shipped, not below. You will get that by using TF source with their free shipping. Me in Canada (and a ton of other international places) will have to rely on a cheaper japan website so that we pay to import it ourselves. What sucks about BBTS or TFsource for non americans is that you are paying shipping twice. Once in terms of the premium those sites give you to cover their importing costs and the second time is the actual shipping. While you might find the shipping outrageous, that is exactly how much it costs to ship something from BBTS to Canada.
Amiami does give me points too though, so thats fun.
Anyways all I meant to say is that the talk of cheaper retailers is not to beat the BBTS price, it is to end up getting that same price shipped when out of the states.
The only reason I would use bbts over tfscource now, is that bbts breaks up wave cases, and since they're based in the state next door, it takes about 4 days to ship stuff to me
Posted by fenrir72 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 11:36am CDT
shajaki wrote:Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?
And you wonder why at certain times I go ballistic? Seeing all of you play with your figures while I broil and fester waiting for the last 6 months when I could have easily purchased the TRU versions with the exception of going through heck just to find Quickslinger
Yup, that's me.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 3rd, 2015 @ 12:04pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:shajaki wrote:Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?
And you wonder why at certain times I go ballistic? Seeing all of you play with your figures while I broil and fester waiting for the last 6 months when I could have easily purchased the TRU versions with the exception of going through heck just to find Quickslinger
Yup, that's me.
You do realise Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are online-only, right? There was one single store sighting, but consider that one a fluke.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 12:09pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:fenrir72 wrote:shajaki wrote:Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?
And you wonder why at certain times I go ballistic? Seeing all of you play with your figures while I broil and fester waiting for the last 6 months when I could have easily purchased the TRU versions with the exception of going through heck just to find Quickslinger
Yup, that's me.
You do realise Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are online-only, right? There was one single store sighting, but consider that one a fluke.
To be fair, he could have picked up a/b, rook and offroad and cyclonus; if he is going all in on the uw line and wanted a combiner
Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2015 @ 2:05pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:50pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:18400 yen = ~$149.59 USDHellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:My speculation of price:
So what would that roughly translate to,
So possibly way better than any price so far, as per usual from amiami, so what other costs would then be applied? Tax, import, shipping? I've never imported anything, what would something like devs cost, and how does international tax/shipping work?
Being in my "Jerk mode".......should these discussion on the exchange rate be relegated to the Pm section? If I wanted to know about the FX rates I'd have looked elsewhere "Jerk mode off"
He'll be mostly (the price of Devastor) around the price shajster postulated. Around the price of Metroflex. Given that, I hope we don't hear that the "D" man is overpriced. The intricacies of 6 individual vehicles merging into one figure (when each vehicle also transforms individually) should also be considered.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 7:53pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:fenrir72 wrote:shajaki wrote:Fen... you've been waiting THIS LONG to experience what was released in the FIRST WAVE of Combiner Wars?
And you wonder why at certain times I go ballistic? Seeing all of you play with your figures while I broil and fester waiting for the last 6 months when I could have easily purchased the TRU versions with the exception of going through heck just to find Quickslinger
Yup, that's me.
You do realise Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are online-only, right? There was one single store sighting, but consider that one a fluke.
To be fair, he could have picked up a/b, rook and offroad and cyclonus; if he is going all in on the uw line and wanted a combiner
@ JZGR
In Asia, the distribution is different.
@ screamer
Each of us have our own crosses to bare maybe I'm a closet S and M?
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