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Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One

Transformers News: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One

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Courtesy of comics and entertainment site Newsarama, we have another first look at the upcoming IDW Transformers: Till All Are One series (coming in June), in an interview with writer Mairghread Scott and featuring unlettered preview pages by Sara Pitre Durocher (whatever the article might claim to the contrary). Check out some snippets, images below, and head here for the full piece!

Set on Cybertron and the political in-fighting between Starscream and Windblade to craft a new era for Transformers on Cybertron and beyond, the series has a broader scope than any Transformers series before. Picking up thematically from her last series, Transformers: Windblade, Scott and artist Alex Milne (nope --Va'al) are looking to delve deeper into the heart of being a Transformer.

Newsarama: "Till All Are One" is a very hallowed phrase in the Transformers mythos. What does it mean here for this new series?

Mairghread Scott: “Till All Are One” is a double-edged sword in our series. Our characters' main challenge right now is integration: Autobots and Decepticons, colonists and Cybertronians, various religious and political factions. These people know they need help to survive, but getting that help from former enemies is a hard pill to swallow. On the other hand, the threat of empire is always there. If Cybertron falls back under a totalitarian government and 'all' are forced to become 'one' it can be just as damaging. So everyone is working toward this single phrase, but in very different ways.

[...]

Nrama: How did this series come about? Is it something you pitched to do, or something IDW asked you to work on specifically?

Scott: We weren't sure when Windblade ended if we'd be able to do any more so we crammed as much plot in as we could. So when John Barber asked what I'd do with an ongoing, it took me a minute to figure out which of the many toys I'd grabbed I'd like to play with first. I'm glad I took the time to find it.

Till All Are One is going to explore and spotlight a variety of characters from across the spectrum of Transformers works, but in a single cohesive story. My goal isn't to hit everyone at once, but to bounce back and forth, to touch on the people that are rebuilding this world so that we're less of a classic 'team' book and more the story of a people and their struggles. Of course, some characters will always be at the heart of things, Windblade and Starscream in particular. But I've always been a character-focused writer and I want it to feel like Cybertron as a planet is changing and growing, not just a single character or a handful of them.


Transformers News: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One

Transformers News: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One

Transformers News: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One
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Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788004)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 8:00am CDT
Heh, glad they're not trying to play up Swindle's survival as a shock - I was a bit surprised when I saw people consider the character to actually be dead.

Curious about the shot of Chromia removing her "helmet" - if there is a Chromia focus, we might see a resolution to Chromia's vol. 1 crimes, which could put rest to one of my vol. 2 gripes - if there's a line about "yada yada things were too unstable at the time to address it," I could kinda buy it. (My fanfic-y approach would've been for her to be tried in secret on Caminus and returned to duty on "probation" in vol. 2 with her Combiner Hunter deco marking her as criminal - Caminus is a resource poor world, not enough resources to easily replace a skilled worker or hold people in prison, so perhaps after a serious crime you get one probationary chance, then execution).

Seems like Ironhide's getting a bit of focus - always been interested in his recent IDW characterization.

While I do want King Starscream to last, it seems like his Badgeless shenanigans are catching up with him - perhaps with Swindle running around we'll see mention of him orchestrating Menasor's attack on Caminus. That would certainly shake things up, although it wouldn't necessarily unseat him - he's a good villain-politician, and that allows for a bit more nuance than the shoot-shoot-bang-bang a wartime Megatronalike villain provides.

We're seeing Knock Out and Prime Breakdown get pagetime together (outside of one vehicle mode panel in the Christmas special)!

Like the art, a good mixture of colourful/juicy and mechanical.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788007)
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2016 @ 8:10am CDT
RevTibe wrote:Curious about the shot of Chromia removing her "helmet" - if there is a Chromia focus, we might see a resolution to Chromia's vol. 1 crimes, which could put rest to one of my vol. 2 gripes - if there's a line about "yada yada things were too unstable at the time to address it," I could kinda buy it. (My fanfic-y approach would've been for her to be tried in secret on Caminus and returned to duty on "probation" in vol. 2 with her Combiner Hunter deco marking her as criminal - Caminus is a resource poor world, not enough resources to easily replace a skilled worker or hold people in prison, so perhaps after a serious crime you get one probationary chance, then execution).


Yes, that is what I am also expecting/Hoping to see. I still have the feeling that the Chromia arc is nowhere near over, and only having six issues to deal with it, really, is not giving it the chance it deserves. If it's not addressed at all, then yeah.. it'll stand out a little sore.

(However, parallels with Civil War narrative of Bucky/Cap, now that I think about it... :-? )

Seems like Ironhide's getting a bit of focus - always been interested in his recent IDW characterization


Now that is an interesting character to look at, after the whole 'Pax Cybertronia is no longer a thing' thing. Or is it? What is his role, now? He obviously has a lot to contribute, but everything has changed for him since AHM and his mini series. Where will he go from here?
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788019)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2016 @ 8:35am CDT
I look forward to more Ironhide. He's my sis's favorite, so I can't help but keep an eye on him :MAXIMAL:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788028)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 9:01am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:Yes, that is what I am also expecting/Hoping to see. I still have the feeling that the Chromia arc is nowhere near over, and only having six issues to deal with it, really, is not giving it the chance it deserves. If it's not addressed at all, then yeah.. it'll stand out a little sore.
True, a Chromia subplot would be too much for the already overstuffed vol. 2! I suppose the most I could've asked for would have been a "this isn't over!"-type line from Windblade somewhere.

I'd love to see Chromia's crime leveraged to talk about how Cybertronians value life - I'd imagine millions of years of warfare would leave many Cybes with a blasé reaction to three casualties from a bombing, while the more peaceful colonists would be horrified.

Dr Va'al wrote:Now that is an interesting character to look at, after the whole 'Pax Cybertronia is no longer a thing' thing. Or is it? What is his role, now? He obviously has a lot to contribute, but everything has changed for him since AHM and his mini series. Where will he go from here?
Yeah, there's a lot of vague stuff surrounding the Pax and Gorlam Prime - a lot can be read into Jhiaxus's ramblings about Gorlam Prime and the Pax when LV-117 was being bashed about in time, but part of me hopes that those were purely in reference to Shockwave's Dark Cybertron plan - let's leave time travel in the past (heh). Then there was Combiner Wars' suggestion that the vision was instead sharing headspace with someone/thing else instead of a premonition. My guess is that TAAO will largely deal with Ironhide's character arc; the plotlines tied to his vision sound like a better fit for a post-All Hail Optimus ex-RID arc.

I am surprised/glad that he's been an interesting character despite being killed/revived/mindwiped previously - that's basically the same treatment Energon Demolishor got, which isn't a flattering similarity.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788046)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 10:06am CDT
Really have hopes its good. I'm in no mood for every issue to have Windblade with an inner monologue of "I have to stop starscream"

Art is nice.

Hey Livio! This is what cybertron looks like! It has colors and light and depth and backgrounds! Take notes!
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788048)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 10:16am CDT
RevTibe wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:Yes, that is what I am also expecting/Hoping to see. I still have the feeling that the Chromia arc is nowhere near over, and only having six issues to deal with it, really, is not giving it the chance it deserves. If it's not addressed at all, then yeah.. it'll stand out a little sore.
True, a Chromia subplot would be too much for the already overstuffed vol. 2! I suppose the most I could've asked for would have been a "this isn't over!"-type line from Windblade somewhere.

I'd love to see Chromia's crime leveraged to talk about how Cybertronians value life - I'd imagine millions of years of warfare would leave many Cybes with a blasé reaction to three casualties from a bombing, while the more peaceful colonists would be horrified.

Dr Va'al wrote:Now that is an interesting character to look at, after the whole 'Pax Cybertronia is no longer a thing' thing. Or is it? What is his role, now? He obviously has a lot to contribute, but everything has changed for him since AHM and his mini series. Where will he go from here?
Yeah, there's a lot of vague stuff surrounding the Pax and Gorlam Prime - a lot can be read into Jhiaxus's ramblings about Gorlam Prime and the Pax when LV-117 was being bashed about in time, but part of me hopes that those were purely in reference to Shockwave's Dark Cybertron plan - let's leave time travel in the past (heh). Then there was Combiner Wars' suggestion that the vision was instead sharing headspace with someone/thing else instead of a premonition. My guess is that TAAO will largely deal with Ironhide's character arc; the plotlines tied to his vision sound like a better fit for a post-All Hail Optimus ex-RID arc.

I am surprised/glad that he's been an interesting character despite being killed/revived/mindwiped previously - that's basically the same treatment Energon Demolishor got, which isn't a flattering similarity.


Here's my two cents about Jhiaxus Gorlam prime and Orion pax and LV-117:

That was all done before Dark Cybtron was planned. I think John had a very different plan in mind when he was doing the syndromica story and when he James and IDW decided to team up with hasbro for dark cybertron he had to change his plans for what he was doing. If you go back and re-read those issues it's very apparent had set of plans in mind then. In that time travel issue with Jhiaxus and Orion on LV-117 we see the planet being destroyed and the ground being sucked into the air. Jhiaxus tells Orion he does not know true chaos but will. Optimus also steals the time travel remote from Jhiaxus. I had hopes that remote would come back into play by the end of dark cybertron. A lot of what was said and done in issues 6 and 9 of RID were ignored and not brought back up by the end of dark cybertron.

We know dark cybertron was planned around August and September of 2012 from interviews by John and James and the syndromica story was written and drawn a good 6 months before that.

I think John had a very different story planned and had to change it and as much as I don't want unicorn I think he was originally coming.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788049)
Posted by Optimizzy on May 9th, 2016 @ 10:19am CDT
I do hope this wont feel as rushed as the last one.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788054)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 10:47am CDT
Optimizzy wrote:I do hope this wont feel as rushed as the last one.



I second that. It was a mess
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788073)
Posted by 1984forever on May 9th, 2016 @ 11:50am CDT
Scott says the last thing she wants people to remember is that Windblade turns into a jet. So what I got from this is that it will be a political talking heads book as shown in the preview. There will also be few Transformations because there will be very little action. Characters from many KOntinuities will show up for nostalgia purposes, but nothing will be done with them because the book will focus relentlessly on the same cast from Windblade. The average Transformers fan can't just jump into TAAO without reading years worth of IDW history, so they're going to try to attract the Archie comic and romance novel crowd.

Okay, got it.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788075)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 12:26pm CDT
1984forever wrote:Scott says the last thing she wants people to remember is that Windblade turns into a jet. So what I got from this is that it will be a political talking heads book as shown in the preview. There will also be few Transformations because there will be very little action. Characters from many KOntinuities will show up for nostalgia purposes, but nothing will be done with them because the book will focus relentlessly on the same cast from Windblade. The average Transformers fan can't just jump into TAAO without reading years worth of IDW history, so they're going to try to attract the Archie comic and romance novel crowd.

Okay, got it.



Well that should be fine with you since you hate everything IDW and "don't read" the comics they put out.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788080)
Posted by Prowl4 on May 9th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT
I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788084)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 12:56pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788091)
Posted by Prowl4 on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:09pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788096)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:16pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788099)
Posted by Prowl4 on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:21pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.



When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788101)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:23pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.



When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788102)
Posted by Prowl4 on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:26pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.



When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.
Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.[/quote]

Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788105)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
For me I just care about the story. I don't care who the writer is as long the story is good to me. That being said, how many comic sites and social media outlets were promoting and making a big deal about having a woman write for transformers and having female transformers. It honestly put me off because I grew up with Arcee black arachnia airrazer and botanica. They've always been around so when Windblade was announced I didn't blink. It was "alright, cool"

When you push and push and push that's when I start getting irked and that's how I have felt for two years now.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788106)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:29pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.


When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.


Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?


Dang, you're right. Sorry man, I forgot that I'm not allowed to defend an author whose work I enjoy if they happen to be a woman or write a female protagonist. Thanks for reminding me.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788112)
Posted by 1984forever on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:38pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
it's not just her, it's Roberts and Barber coming heavy with the agendas and social engineering as well. It's what an adult would do with their Transformers collection. Pose them on a shelf and have them debate and crack jokes. No real TF action because they're too sophisticated for it. It's time for all 3 of them to write something else.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788114)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:42pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.


When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.


Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?


Dang, you're right. Sorry man, I forgot that I'm not allowed to defend an author whose work I enjoy if they happen to be a woman or write a female protagonist. Thanks for reminding me.


Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788115)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.

Yeah, no hint of greater consequences for Chromia's crime is a flaw - you quoted me talking about that flaw on the previous page of this thread. I'm not sure what your point is? Are you trying to say that since there is at least one flaw in something I like, I cannot defend its overall quality?
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788123)
Posted by Randomhero on May 9th, 2016 @ 2:16pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.

Yeah, no hint of greater consequences for Chromia's crime is a flaw - you quoted me talking about that flaw on the previous page of this thread. I'm not sure what your point is? Are you trying to say that since there is at least one flaw in something I like, I cannot defend its overall quality?



My point is that I can't say Scott is a good writer when the entire plot of that comic is trying to find proof that starscream is behind a terrorist attack only for the protagonist's best friend to be the culprit and do nothing about it but tell her to not do it again. That's not good writing.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788125)
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2016 @ 2:29pm CDT
Psst. I also have an agenda. It's why I infiltrated Seibertron in the first place.

Once I am ruler of everything, there will be no new comics. Only comics adaptations of Das Kapital. With robots.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788127)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 2:43pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.

Yeah, no hint of greater consequences for Chromia's crime is a flaw - you quoted me talking about that flaw on the previous page of this thread. I'm not sure what your point is? Are you trying to say that since there is at least one flaw in something I like, I cannot defend its overall quality?

My point is that I can't say Scott is a good writer when the entire plot of that comic is trying to find proof that starscream is behind a terrorist attack only for the protagonist's best friend to be the culprit and do nothing about it but tell her to not do it again. That's not good writing.

...that's not the plot of Vol.1. Hell, there's a comment in issue 2; "Starscream's goons would've made sure [the evidence] got swept away with all the other rubble." The bombing is very secondary to the business surrounding the damage to Metroplex.

Issue 1: Metroplex is glitching out, Starscream acts threateningly towards Windblade. Windblade concludes Starscream's untrustworthy. Bomb!
Issue 2: Starscream continues to act threateningly, Windblade concludes the person threatening her is the one who tried to kill her, possibly to stop her investigation. Finds lead pointing to Starscream mining Metroplex, damaging him in the process. Starscream's goons attack Windblade's group.
Issue 3: Starscream captures Windblade and co. The interrogation reveals that Starscream didn't conduct the bombing and hasn't caused the primary damage to Metroplex. Windblade and co. escape.
Issue 4: Conclusion + revelations. Chromia dunnit, damage addressed, Starscream isn't to blame. Windblade concludes that a) Cybertron will be a better place if she generally acts in support of Starscream b) revealing the events of this plot to the general public will ruin the peace she wishes to achieve. Neither of these points balance on Chromia getting a hanging or whatever - in fact, it might damage the peace by bringing her crimes to light (that's why I mentioned hoping for a secret trial on Caminus).

You speak as though the story hinged on Chromia being punished, but no, it didn't. It stood out, it's a flaw, but Starscream was still the antagonist, the character whose conflict with the protagonist needed a satisfying conclusion, which I believe issue 4 provided.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788128)
Posted by Prowl4 on May 9th, 2016 @ 2:54pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.



I don't think that'needs to be called for. Perstonally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.


She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.
From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.


When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.


Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?


Dang, you're right. Sorry man, I forgot that I'm not allowed to defend an author whose work I enjoy if they happen to be a woman or write a female protagonist. Thanks for reminding me.



Her work is dreadful it's primarily about how the rules do not apply to fembots she showcased this in idw and rid. The idw and rid stuff she writes is extremely fembot heavy.

Idw has inserted fembots that face no real consequences such as death. In fairness to Michael bay he killed the fembots in rotf but comics and tv series won't.

Roberts stuff was good but it's completely disturbing with the homosexual material.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788130)
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2016 @ 2:58pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:Her work is dreadful it's primarily about how the rules do not apply to fembots she showcased this in idw and rid. The idw and rid stuff she writes is extremely fembot heavy.

Idw has inserted fembots that face no real consequences such as death. In fairness to Michael bay he killed the fembots in rotf but comics and tv series won't.

Roberts stuff was good but it's completely disturbing with the homosexual material.


You're starting to border into behaviour I am not a fan of.
Disagreement, even visceral - if you really must - is fine. Labelling homosexuality, gender issues, social commentary as 'disturbing' or 'making you sick' is not.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788132)
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2016 @ 3:26pm CDT
Randomhero, in response to your stuff about 'reasons' to hire Scott, she's worked and is working on a number of franchises, too: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3309878/
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788172)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2016 @ 5:29pm CDT
I am of the party of "as long as the story works and the writing is good, I'll enjoy it and go with it." What we have here in the current ongoings is a great example of world building and actually attempting to create a transformers universe that is more than war. Transformers doesn't always need to be about war. And transformers are very different from us, so some arguments really shouldn't be valid complaints. Now, I am not saying Scott's work was as good as Barber's and Roberts, but she was finding her feet. Remember when Barber took over RiD? Many didn't like it and found it boring, but it picked up speed and to many on this site is now the favorite comic. Scott had her 4 issue series, which was good and I loved, but then the 2nd volume was not ideal for her. 3 issues were combiner wars stuff and the remaining 4 had to cram in 4 or 5 different colonies, so really this couldn't possibly be ideal. We really need to see how she does with an ongoing, giving it the better part of a year before true judgement be called. :MAXIMAL:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788176)
Posted by Prowl4 on May 9th, 2016 @ 5:33pm CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:Her work is dreadful it's primarily about how the rules do not apply to fembots she showcased this in idw and rid. The idw and rid stuff she writes is extremely fembot heavy.

Idw has inserted fembots that face no real consequences such as death. In fairness to Michael bay he killted the fembots in rotf but comics and tv series won't.

Roberts stuff was good but it's completely disturbing with the homosexual material.


You're starting to border into behaviour I am not a fan of.
Disagreement, even visceral - if you really must - is fine. Labelling homosexuality, gender issues, social commentary as 'disturbing' or 'making you sick' is not.


Grow up, I can have an opinion.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788190)
Posted by Burn on May 9th, 2016 @ 5:53pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:Grow up, I can have an opinion.

You can have an opinion, but you need to be respectful. Not everyone will agree with you, telling people to "grow up" is blatantly disrespectful.

Have a warning.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788211)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 7:20pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I am of the party of "as long as the story works and the writing is good, I'll enjoy it and go with it." What we have here in the current ongoings is a great example of world building and actually attempting to create a transformers universe that is more than war. Transformers doesn't always need to be about war.
Agreed - for me, one of the biggest draws of the Transformers franchise is having a big bag of colourful characters (figuratively and literally!) interacting in entertaining ways, so for me, a post-war setting strengthens my favorite part of Transformers. Silly little things like Blurr giving Swindle a friendly noogie, or Ravage and Bluestreak having a good chinwag. Post-war setting strengthens my favorite part of Transformers.

Prowl4 wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:Roberts stuff was good but it's completely disturbing with the homosexual material.


You're starting to border into behaviour I am not a fan of.
Disagreement, even visceral - if you really must - is fine. Labelling homosexuality, gender issues, social commentary as 'disturbing' or 'making you sick' is not.


Grow up, I can have an opinion.

And labeling "homosexual material" as "disturbing" is the opinion of a mature adult?
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788212)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2016 @ 7:23pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I am of the party of "as long as the story works and the writing is good, I'll enjoy it and go with it." What we have here in the current ongoings is a great example of world building and actually attempting to create a transformers universe that is more than war. Transformers doesn't always need to be about war.
Agreed - for me, one of the biggest draws of the Transformers franchise is having a big bag of colourful characters (figuratively and literally!) interacting in entertaining ways, so for me, a post-war setting strengthens my favorite part of Transformers. Silly little things like Blurr giving Swindle a friendly noogie, or Ravage and Bluestreak having a good chinwag. Post-war setting strengthens my favorite part of Transformers.

The post war stuff has given plenty of opportunity to really show who these bots and cons are. at times, the lines really blurr. Blurr's and Swerve's are great settings for that, and the fact that this book is mainly centered on Cybertron and it's colonies excites me, since we get to see all that post war stuff, and people who have never known war, and so many different continuities being brought in. I look forward to more beast wars stuff. :MAXIMAL:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788243)
Posted by RevTibe on May 9th, 2016 @ 8:36pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:The post war stuff has given plenty of opportunity to really show who these bots and cons are. at times, the lines really blurr. Blurr's and Swerve's are great settings for that, and the fact that this book is mainly centered on Cybertron and it's colonies excites me, since we get to see all that post war stuff, and people who have never known war, and so many different continuities being brought in. I look forward to more beast wars stuff. :MAXIMAL:
Yeah, it's pretty great what the authors can do when half the cast isn't obligated to kill the other half! The different approaches they've taken to antagonism have been interesting - while the "Two or three developed violent villains, maybe some mooks" approach is serviceable with Tarn and Galvatron, the political semi-antagonist angle Starscream's taken is pretty great (come to think of it, the Windblade books are probably the most positive presentation the character's ever gotten). Of course, with 2-3 ongoings, we don't need to choose. Looking forward to more Eukaris/Beast Planet, although I expect the Carcer/Tempo question may be the primary colony plotline.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788264)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2016 @ 9:58pm CDT
I'm also looking forward to seeing what comes of Ghost Bee and Ebenscreamer Scrooge :MAXIMAL:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788285)
Posted by Optimizzy on May 9th, 2016 @ 10:48pm CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:Psst. I also have an agenda. It's why I infiltrated Seibertron in the first place.

Once I am ruler of everything, there will be no new comics. Only comics adaptations of Das Kapital. With robots.


Lol. Vaal you crazy man. You crazy.

Personally I like Scott. She's bringing in a LOT of stuff. I think Roberts is a better world builder but she's ok. My ONLY problem is how rushed the last story was. Each world should have had its own miniseries. I hope that's what we will get here. And I'm fine with a talking head comic. Action is in the main series. This is about politics. I mean it's more house of cards than White House falling down or whatever that movie was called.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788316)
Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2016 @ 1:46am CDT
Optimizzy wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:Psst. I also have an agenda. It's why I infiltrated Seibertron in the first place.

Once I am ruler of everything, there will be no new comics. Only comics adaptations of Das Kapital. With robots.


Lol. Vaal you crazy man. You crazy.


Am I..? We already had Orion Pax quoting Tony Benn...

Image
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788355)
Posted by Prowl4 on May 10th, 2016 @ 8:19am CDT
Burn wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:Grow up, I can have an opinion.

You can have an opinion, but you need to be respectful. Not everyone will agree with you, telling people to "grow up" is blatantly disrespectful.

Have a warning.



Oh yeah but when my opinion is disrespected it's cool.

Thank you for the warning I appreciate that.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788360)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 10th, 2016 @ 8:28am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:Am I..? We already had Orion Pax quoting Tony Benn...
Image

One of my favorite scenes from that period. Loved the whole chaos theory storyline. :MAXIMAL:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788661)
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 11th, 2016 @ 1:02pm CDT
*Sniffs* Ahh smell that air! Angry fanboys, burning prejudice, latent sexism, and just a hint of "get over yourselves, they are comics, enjoy them if you want, hate them if you want, just don't pull real life issues you have into it" :BOT:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788665)
Posted by Va'al on May 11th, 2016 @ 1:21pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:*Sniffs* Ahh smell that air! Angry fanboys, burning prejudice, latent sexism, and just a hint of "get over yourselves, they are comics, enjoy them if you want, hate them if you want, just don't pull real life issues you have into it" :BOT:


Unnecessary, please don't.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788674)
Posted by Va'al on May 11th, 2016 @ 2:25pm CDT
This is a good example of how to disagree with or criticise a writer.

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/144 ... ive-seen-a
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788682)
Posted by 1984forever on May 11th, 2016 @ 2:58pm CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:This is a good example of how to disagree with or criticise a writer.

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/144 ... ive-seen-a
I think the article was horrible. Mcfeely beat around the bush.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788692)
Posted by RevTibe on May 11th, 2016 @ 3:29pm CDT
1984forever wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:This is a good example of how to disagree with or criticise a writer.

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/144 ... ive-seen-a
I think the article was horrible. Mcfeely beat around the bush.

How so? The first paragraph was a list of the positives and negatives he finds in her writing, the second paragraph gave a brief overview of his thoughts on two major camps of critique of her writing. Cutting anything from it would have denied the reader useful information.
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788706)
Posted by 1984forever on May 11th, 2016 @ 4:28pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
1984forever wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:This is a good example of how to disagree with or criticise a writer.

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/144 ... ive-seen-a
I think the article was horrible. Mcfeely beat around the bush.

How so? The first paragraph was a list of the positives and negatives he finds in her writing, the second paragraph gave a brief overview of his thoughts on two major camps of critique of her writing. Cutting anything from it would have denied the reader useful information.
His criticism didn't go deep enough.

The problem at IDW is their attempts to make Transformers more human. We have stuff like Chromia and Prowl being terrorists because IDW wants to get rid of labels like heroic and evil and show the shades in between so people can relate to them more. Well, I can't relate to terrorists.

Nearly everyone is evil in IDW. The whole reason they have for starting the war is stupid. Ending it only led to more foolishness. The war ended so Autobot Blurr can give Combaticon Swindle a noogie and Starscream could rule Cybertron with a fist made of tin foil.

Wow. Great stuff :roll:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788710)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 11th, 2016 @ 4:35pm CDT
If you hate it so much, why are you still discussing it? Several of us really like the way things are going and it makes for great storylines. I've seen that issues 50-present (because that's when people started posting them on twitter) are actually selling around numbers 2-8 on the list of comic sales. Issue 52 made #3 for a while. It is good stuff, and the sales numbers are showing it :MAXIMAL:
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788711)
Posted by RevTibe on May 11th, 2016 @ 4:47pm CDT
1984forever wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
1984forever wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:This is a good example of how to disagree with or criticise a writer.

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/144 ... ive-seen-a
I think the article was horrible. Mcfeely beat around the bush.

How so? The first paragraph was a list of the positives and negatives he finds in her writing, the second paragraph gave a brief overview of his thoughts on two major camps of critique of her writing. Cutting anything from it would have denied the reader useful information.
His criticism didn't go deep enough.

The problem at IDW is their attempts to make Transformers more human. We have stuff like Chromia and Prowl being terrorists because IDW wants to get rid of labels like heroic and evil and show the shades in between so people can relate to them more. Well, I can't relate to terrorists.

Nearly everyone is evil in IDW. The whole reason they have for starting the war is stupid. Ending it only led to more foolishness. The war ended so Autobot Blurr can give Combaticon Swindle a noogie and Starscream could rule Cybertron with a fist made of tin foil.

Wow. Great stuff :roll:
Transformers have been super-humanized from day 1. Jazz, Blaster's radio-DJ voice shtick, Autobots all having a big snowball fight etc, all that kitschy 80s stuff.

Not sure how Nautica's a terrorist? Maybe you meant Chromia, but a mix up like that isn't exactly inspiring faith in your evaluation of the characters. Most of the Autobots are still fairly positive characters, and many Decepticons now have a nicer side to them too!

Prowl's definitely a darker character than previous depictions, what with his Machiavellian approach. It's fine if you can't find certain villain archetypes engaging, but that may be your own limitation, rather than the work's (and hey, the G1 'cons were pretty terrorist-esque, bombing Earth and Cybertron buildings, taking hostages etc).

I'm not sure how IDW's start of the war is stupid - the revolt of an oppressed caste taking a more destructive turn as its leader becomes increasingly tyrannical is much more interesting than "Autobots are born nice, Decepticons are born mean, they have a war!"
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788731)
Posted by 1984forever on May 11th, 2016 @ 5:40pm CDT
RevTibe wrote:
1984forever wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
1984forever wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:This is a good example of how to disagree with or criticise a writer.

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/144 ... ive-seen-a
I think the article was horrible. Mcfeely beat around the bush.

How so? The first paragraph was a list of the positives and negatives he finds in her writing, the second paragraph gave a brief overview of his thoughts on two major camps of critique of her writing. Cutting anything from it would have denied the reader useful information.
His criticism didn't go deep enough.

The problem at IDW is their attempts to make Transformers more human. We have stuff like Chromia and Prowl being terrorists because IDW wants to get rid of labels like heroic and evil and show the shades in between so people can relate to them more. Well, I can't relate to terrorists.

Nearly everyone is evil in IDW. The whole reason they have for starting the war is stupid. Ending it only led to more foolishness. The war ended so Autobot Blurr can give Combaticon Swindle a noogie and Starscream could rule Cybertron with a fist made of tin foil.

Wow. Great stuff :roll:
Transformers have been super-humanized from day 1. Jazz, Blaster's radio-DJ voice shtick, Autobots all having a big snowball fight etc, all that kitschy 80s stuff.

Not sure how Nautica's a terrorist? Maybe you meant Chromia, but a mix up like that isn't exactly inspiring faith in your evaluation of the characters. Most of the Autobots are still fairly positive characters, and many Decepticons now have a nicer side to them too!

Prowl's definitely a darker character than previous depictions, what with his Machiavellian approach. It's fine if you can't find certain villain archetypes engaging, but that may be your own limitation, rather than the work's (and hey, the G1 'cons were pretty terrorist-esque, bombing Earth and Cybertron buildings, taking hostages etc).

I'm not sure how IDW's start of the war is stupid - the revolt of an oppressed caste taking a more destructive turn as its leader becomes increasingly tyrannical is much more interesting than "Autobots are born nice, Decepticons are born mean, they have a war!"
1) I never said Nautica.

2)Real Transformers are built.

3) Fighting over Energon and the territories that can provide it is a good reason to start a war. Trashing the planet because you want to do aerial photography but you're not qualified because you have a drill on your alt mode is stupid!
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788734)
Posted by RevTibe on May 11th, 2016 @ 5:54pm CDT
1984forever wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
1984forever wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
1984forever wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:This is a good example of how to disagree with or criticise a writer.

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/144 ... ive-seen-a
I think the article was horrible. Mcfeely beat around the bush.

How so? The first paragraph was a list of the positives and negatives he finds in her writing, the second paragraph gave a brief overview of his thoughts on two major camps of critique of her writing. Cutting anything from it would have denied the reader useful information.
His criticism didn't go deep enough.

The problem at IDW is their attempts to make Transformers more human. We have stuff like Chromia and Prowl being terrorists because IDW wants to get rid of labels like heroic and evil and show the shades in between so people can relate to them more. Well, I can't relate to terrorists.

Nearly everyone is evil in IDW. The whole reason they have for starting the war is stupid. Ending it only led to more foolishness. The war ended so Autobot Blurr can give Combaticon Swindle a noogie and Starscream could rule Cybertron with a fist made of tin foil.

Wow. Great stuff :roll:
Transformers have been super-humanized from day 1. Jazz, Blaster's radio-DJ voice shtick, Autobots all having a big snowball fight etc, all that kitschy 80s stuff.

Not sure how Nautica's a terrorist? Maybe you meant Chromia, but a mix up like that isn't exactly inspiring faith in your evaluation of the characters. Most of the Autobots are still fairly positive characters, and many Decepticons now have a nicer side to them too!

Prowl's definitely a darker character than previous depictions, what with his Machiavellian approach. It's fine if you can't find certain villain archetypes engaging, but that may be your own limitation, rather than the work's (and hey, the G1 'cons were pretty terrorist-esque, bombing Earth and Cybertron buildings, taking hostages etc).

I'm not sure how IDW's start of the war is stupid - the revolt of an oppressed caste taking a more destructive turn as its leader becomes increasingly tyrannical is much more interesting than "Autobots are born nice, Decepticons are born mean, they have a war!"
1) I never said Nautica.

2)Real Transformers are built.

3) Fighting over Energon and the territories that can provide it is a good reason to start a war. Trashing the planet because you want to do aerial photography but you're not qualified because you have a drill on your alt mode is stupid!
What are your thoughts on the humanization/terrorist points? Both things were quite present in G1, which seems to be your yardstick for ideal TF fiction.

On point 3 - the alt mode thing essentially pushed TFs into borderline slave labor - that's worth getting angry about!

Resource wars can be interesting (IDW includes several resource/territory-based battles!), but G1's stance of "Decepticons are born bad, Autobots are born good." doesn't make for interesting characters. Some of the most interesting G1 Decepticons were those that ignored that!

(My apologies on the Nautica mix-up - certainly backfired on me!)
Re: Interview with Mairghread Scott on IDW Transformers: Till All Are One (1788738)
Posted by 1984forever on May 11th, 2016 @ 6:02pm CDT
The Autobots were just imitating humans when they got to earth. Jazz saying that "the dark side of Cybertron is blacker than the inside of a drive shaft" is something that can be said on Cybertron.

The Decepticons can be terrorists because they're EVIL Decepticons. Any Autobot that blows up other Autobots really wants to be a 'con.

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