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More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return

Transformers News: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return

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As director Michael Bay makes the rounds promoting his upcoming movie "Pain and Gain" more Transformers 4 details continue to emerge. In a recent interview with the Huffington Post Bay reveals why he decided to return to the franchise, and that Peter Cullen will be reprising his role as Optimus Prime! The Transformers 4 info can be found in the quotes below, the full interview can be found by clicking here.



Why do you want to do it? I was under the impression that you were done after "Transformers 3"?
I thought I was done. Then the ride came out [at Universal Studios Hollywood] and the two-and-a-half-hour lines. And then you're thinking, Oh my God, someone's going to take this over. And you start doing a lot of soul-searching. Like, OK, I'm about to do a little movie, "Pain & Gain" ... and the studio says they want to restart the franchise. And someone could come in here and screw it up, you know? So I'm thinking that if I do this last one, we set it on a new footing, we change a lot of things -- but we keep the history of the three in place. But we broaden it so it can be set up and be carried on -- it would have a better chance for survival, I guess. You know?

Right.
So it was just one of those things. It's like, when you look what's going on in the film business with the franchise frenzy right now, why is Cameron doing two more "Avatar" movies? Why is Peter Jackson doing three more "Hobbit" movies that are in the same world as "Lord of the Rings"? When you have a franchise, it's very hard to give it up.


Well, looking at how "Transformers: Dark of the Moon" did at the box office, it's obvious that people like these movies. So I can see your hesitation to give it up.
Well, no, you've got to do different things in life. But it doesn't matter. This is probably the last one.

So with the plot of "Transformers 4," it's not like the other three movies didn't happen? It's not a reboot?
No. We're basically taking from the history of where it was -- or where we left it in Chicago. And we're going to carry it on from there.

I spoke to Peter Cullen at Comic Con earlier this year. He said he doesn't know if he's going to be back as the voice of Optimus Prime or not. He'll be back, right?
Of course! Of course.

Before the first "Transformers," you got some heat for the whole "flames on Optimus" thing.
Yeah, I know.

But if you got rid of Peter Cullen, people would be extremely upset.
Listen, when I heard his voice, it gave me chills.
Credit(s): The Huffington Post
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Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422705)
Posted by PrymeStriker on September 21st, 2012 @ 5:52pm CDT
redoutlander wrote:Oh I didn't know about season 4. all i heard is that Hasbro wants to change to a new cast of characters and that Beast Hunters would be next. Ether way I'll watch it and will probalby get most of the main figs.


Yeah, Beast Hunters is going to be Prime Season 3 (or 3.5). We speculate the introduction of the Dinobots and Star Seekers.

Didn't hear anything about changing the Prime cast. But that's true with the 4th Live Action Movie.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422707)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on September 21st, 2012 @ 6:03pm CDT
Bubbah wrote:As for who to have the problem with, the general public doesn't realize what he's doing to the franchise, hell they think it's all based off a cartoon from the 80's. I would absolutely blame him for the mocking, not the people who go see it, because frankly they don't know better, which is sad.

Mr. Bay, I apologize, you're not an idiot ... You're a giant douche.

What exactly is he doing that's a problem? Making Transformers more popular than it's ever been? In what twisted universe is that a bad thing?
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422711)
Posted by optimuscarlos on September 21st, 2012 @ 6:12pm CDT
And someone could come in here and screw it up, you know?


Yeah!!, Because He did it all right.!!!
How much can someone else screw it up?
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422713)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on September 21st, 2012 @ 6:33pm CDT
Wait..so... this is supposed to be a reboot... but theres going to be Cullen, so prime will be there. Its using the last 3 movies as the history... does he even know what a reboot is? Sounds like ass already due to his attitude on the whole thing. He makes it very clear in the start that its about money (I don't buy this whole "someone else will screw it up" bs). More like, someone else will make all that money. Whata phoney.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422716)
Posted by BeastProwl on September 21st, 2012 @ 6:41pm CDT
What I gathered from that is, "My last 3 made alot of cash, and this next one will too, and I might stop after the fourth one. I might."

Wow. And he wants it to basically be a sequel too. What the hell. He killed off everyone that could be a threat, so how's this even going to work?
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422717)
Posted by TulioDude on September 21st, 2012 @ 6:48pm CDT
I'm so glad, i feared that Optimus would not return.But he is :DANCE:


And for the first time we know a little about the setting of the next film.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422728)
Posted by LiKwid on September 21st, 2012 @ 7:28pm CDT
optimuscarlos wrote:
And someone could come in here and screw it up, you know?


Yeah!!, Because He did it all right.!!!
How much can someone else screw it up?


All im gonna say is..At least Uwe Boll didn't direct the first 3...
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422754)
Posted by Chandler Prime 1 on September 21st, 2012 @ 8:26pm CDT
Heck Yea !!! The more Peter Cullen the better !!!!!!!!! As he is the ONE and ONLY Optimus Prime.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422755)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on September 21st, 2012 @ 8:26pm CDT
So...no reboot, but a new cast of (human and TF) characters, but Prime stays due to his iconic status, and because Peter Cullen rulz! 8)

So long as they keep the storytelling at least on par with or hopefully above DOTM, I've got no complaints. The action's been consistently good/decent in all three films.

Oh, and keep the military involvement down to DOTM levels, and no more almighty bombing raids.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422768)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on September 21st, 2012 @ 8:47pm CDT
what i took out of this is prime is going to continue to be a shelf warmer, bay is a greedy little kid, everything to do with these movies is made as they go with no planing at all about the future, & the franchise is still screwed.


Evil_the_Nub wrote:
Bubbah wrote:As for who to have the problem with, the general public doesn't realize what he's doing to the franchise, hell they think it's all based off a cartoon from the 80's. I would absolutely blame him for the mocking, not the people who go see it, because frankly they don't know better, which is sad.

Mr. Bay, I apologize, you're not an idiot ... You're a giant douche.

What exactly is he doing that's a problem? Making Transformers more popular than it's ever been? In what twisted universe is that a bad thing?


Apparently you havent realized yet that 9 times out of 10 going mainstream either kills or slowly kills franchises & genres. More people on board isnt always a good thing. Before the movies was there ever a time where people complained about overpricing, low quality, not being able to find something or having to deal with scalpers every time something comes out? No and why is that, because it wasnt mainstream and only fans and people who stumbled upon it knew about it. It wasnt until the movies that the franchise was thrown into disarray & hasbros greed was flamed to new heights. The franchise as a whole was way better off before bay got his grubby little hands on it and the mainstream morons were mad aware of our beloved franchise. Now if Transformes were to go through cycles like Star Wars & the various comic book properties do then it would be golden but forcing it to stay mainstream is slowly killing it. Like ive been saying Transformers needs a break and needs to take a year or two off and then be started up again from scratch. Thats the only way this franchise is going to be put back on track, either that or fire every one whos involved with it right now. Either way something needs to be done anew.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422774)
Posted by Trikeboy on September 21st, 2012 @ 8:58pm CDT
Ok, I'll say it. I quite like the first and third movies. The second one sucked but that is what happens when you start shooting a movie without a script then get someone to write one really quick. The final battle in Chicago was awesome. I really enjoyed it.

That being said, Fall of Cybertron was a much better movie than all three MB movies combined. It was also interactive. I would love to see the Ark battle from that game on the big screen. That was epic. Paramount should reach out to the writers of that game for the Transformers 4 script, then hire Joss Whedon to direct it.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422775)
Posted by DevastaTTor on September 21st, 2012 @ 9:00pm CDT
Super, more movie Primes and Bumblebees on the way. More money for third party offerings I suppose.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422778)
Posted by Mkall on September 21st, 2012 @ 9:12pm CDT
Meh.

Haters will hate. Fans will be fans. Cullen is Prime. I'm going to wait and see.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422779)
Posted by Ultra Markus on September 21st, 2012 @ 9:18pm CDT
And someone could come in here and screw it up, you know?

you mean besides yourself
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422787)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on September 21st, 2012 @ 9:39pm CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:what i took out of this is prime is going to continue to be a shelf warmer, bay is a greedy little kid, everything to do with these movies is made as they go with no planing at all about the future, & the franchise is still screwed.


Evil_the_Nub wrote:
Bubbah wrote:As for who to have the problem with, the general public doesn't realize what he's doing to the franchise, hell they think it's all based off a cartoon from the 80's. I would absolutely blame him for the mocking, not the people who go see it, because frankly they don't know better, which is sad.

Mr. Bay, I apologize, you're not an idiot ... You're a giant douche.

What exactly is he doing that's a problem? Making Transformers more popular than it's ever been? In what twisted universe is that a bad thing?


Apparently you havent realized yet that 9 times out of 10 going mainstream either kills or slowly kills franchises & genres. More people on board isnt always a good thing. Before the movies was there ever a time where people complained about overpricing, low quality, not being able to find something or having to deal with scalpers every time something comes out? No and why is that, because it wasnt mainstream and only fans and people who stumbled upon it knew about it. It wasnt until the movies that the franchise was thrown into disarray & hasbros greed was flamed to new heights. The franchise as a whole was way better off before bay got his grubby little hands on it and the mainstream morons were mad aware of our beloved franchise. Now if Transformes were to go through cycles like Star Wars & the various comic book properties do then it would be golden but forcing it to stay mainstream is slowly killing it. Like ive been saying Transformers needs a break and needs to take a year or two off and then be started up again from scratch. Thats the only way this franchise is going to be put back on track, either that or fire every one whos involved with it right now. Either way something needs to be done anew.

You're right. Batman, Spider-Man, X-men, Superman, TMNT, and Resident Evil all faded away into obscurity after they had movies released. Those franchises are dead and gone.

The only problems with the franchise now are due to the global economic situation and Hasbro's mind boggling incompetence. You can't find a Vehicon? Then ask Hasbro why they put an awesome figure that also happens to be an army builder 1 per case. The deluxe figures are getting smaller and more expensive? So is everything else.

I know what you're going to say next, so I'll go ahead respond to that. "Bay made Bumblebee popular and we're stuck with unnecessary Bumblebee figures everywhere." True, Bumblebee became popular because of the movies. However it's Hasbro's fault again for overestimating his popularity. 1 Bumblebee per series is fine, we don't need 2 or 3 different molds and several repaint every year.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422803)
Posted by OptiMagnus on September 21st, 2012 @ 10:40pm CDT
Paramount: So Peter, we're going to do a Transformers 4 and we still need Optimus Prime.

Peter Cullen: Sorry guys, but I don't think I'm going to do another movie. I've already done three.

Paramount: How about $10,000,000.00?

Cullen: Alright let's do it.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422809)
Posted by T-Macksimus on September 21st, 2012 @ 11:05pm CDT
Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422814)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on September 21st, 2012 @ 11:24pm CDT
T-Macksimus wrote:Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.


Yet, you're the first person to attack the fans (and fellow posters) rather than just state your own view on the subject at hand.... Now who's the prick?

Take your hurt feeling elsewhere.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422816)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on September 21st, 2012 @ 11:33pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:
T-Macksimus wrote:Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.


Yet, you're the first person to attack the fans (and fellow posters) rather than just state your own view on the subject at hand.... Now who's the prick?

Take your hurt feeling elsewhere.

He's got a point though. Some people in this fandom get their panties in a wad over the most trivial stuff and start running off at the keyboard without any thought or reason behind it.

Seriously, death threats because Optimus has flames says it all.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422820)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on September 21st, 2012 @ 11:39pm CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:
T-Macksimus wrote:Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.


Yet, you're the first person to attack the fans (and fellow posters) rather than just state your own view on the subject at hand.... Now who's the prick?

Take your hurt feeling elsewhere.

He's got a point though. Some people in this fandom get their panties in a wad over the most trivial stuff and start running off at the keyboard without any thought or reason behind it.

Seriously, death threats because Optimus has flames says it all.


Who gives a fuck, its not like anyone is going to even leave their basement to find a weapon and track down michael bay. Retaliating to an angry poster is beyond pointless. It just seems like a power trip and nothing else. (Don't bother pointing it out, my reply is different; A hope to slow the derailment of the thread)

As someone mentioned, they need a Transformers CGI movie that spawned from the story writers from HIGH MOON, and maybe the author of the books, as I've heard good things about them.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422831)
Posted by reluctantyouth on September 22nd, 2012 @ 12:28am CDT
:michaelbay: Bay will make a lot of dough regardless. Being compared to the likes of Jackson and Cameron in the interview is a complete joke...could you boost the guys ego anymore than it already has been? :michaelbay: When it comes to all fandoms there are pricks in every set...bashing each other solves nothing. I have as much respect for the Trekers and Star Wars fans as the TF fans. If Bay wants to do this movie right...then the inevitable has to happen...kill Bumblebee in the opening sequence! :CON: Bring in Hot Shot or add some beasts to the bunch and bring in Cheetor. We need a young new hothead in the group with a lot to learn that is not just comic relief. Optimus needs to age a bit...not falling apart like Jetfire but enough to show he has battle scars. Bring in the rest of the seekers and have a new leader emerge among them. Give the Autobots some damn air support...I want to see Sky Linx. There are so many things that can be done. As far as the :CON: leader goes...well I'd hate to see Galvatron...but Bay doesn't have much of an imagination.

Also would love to see the following:

Dinobots
Insecticons
Headmasters
Trypticon or Metroplex or Omega Supreme
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422836)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on September 22nd, 2012 @ 12:42am CDT
reluctantyouth wrote::michaelbay: Bay will make a lot of dough regardless. Being compared to the likes of Jackson and Cameron in the interview is a complete joke...could you boost the guys ego anymore than it already has been? :michaelbay: When it comes to all fandoms there are pricks in every set...bashing each other solves nothing. I have as much respect for the Trekers and Star Wars fans as the TF fans. If Bay wants to do this movie right...then the inevitable has to happen...kill Bumblebee in the opening sequence! :CON: Bring in Hot Shot or add some beasts to the bunch and bring in Cheetor. We need a young new hothead in the group with a lot to learn that is not just comic relief. Optimus needs to age a bit...not falling apart like Jetfire but enough to show he has battle scars. Bring in the rest of the seekers and have a new leader emerge among them. Give the Autobots some damn air support...I want to see Sky Linx. There are so many things that can be done. As far as the :CON: leader goes...well I'd hate to see Galvatron...but Bay doesn't have much of an imagination.

:APPLAUSE:
I'd like to see Galvatron, but only if he is done right.
Also would love to see the following:

Dinobots
Insecticons
Headmasters
Trypticon or Metroplex or Omega Supreme
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422837)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on September 22nd, 2012 @ 12:43am CDT
reluctantyouth wrote::michaelbay: Bay will make a lot of dough regardless. Being compared to the likes of Jackson and Cameron in the interview is a complete joke...could you boost the guys ego anymore than it already has been? :michaelbay: When it comes to all fandoms there are pricks in every set...bashing each other solves nothing. I have as much respect for the Trekers and Star Wars fans as the TF fans. If Bay wants to do this movie right...then the inevitable has to happen...kill Bumblebee in the opening sequence! :CON: Bring in Hot Shot or add some beasts to the bunch and bring in Cheetor. We need a young new hothead in the group with a lot to learn that is not just comic relief. Optimus needs to age a bit...not falling apart like Jetfire but enough to show he has battle scars. Bring in the rest of the seekers and have a new leader emerge among them. Give the Autobots some damn air support...I want to see Sky Linx. There are so many things that can be done. As far as the :CON: leader goes...well I'd hate to see Galvatron...but Bay doesn't have much of an imagination.


Also would love to see the following:

Dinobots
Insecticons
Headmasters
Trypticon or Metroplex or Omega Supreme

:APPLAUSE:
I'd like to see Galvatron, but only if he is done right.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422840)
Posted by BATTOUSAIXD on September 22nd, 2012 @ 12:55am CDT
I'm glad to see Peter Cullen is returning. I do hope they tone down Prime's eagerness for violence a little bit though. I'm fine with him being a warrior and all but I'd rather ripping heads and appendages off be a last resort and not hear him say "Give me your face," "We'll kill them all," and "You die!" So, basically how he was in the first movie.

I don't know why they haven't just said it is a sequel all along. It's obviously not a reboot and if it picks up from Chicago, then it doesn't seem to be a reinvention or whatever else has been suggested. Anyway I'm all for another movie(s), though I doubt any will be better than the first for me, it got me back interested in Transformers and into collecting in general. And I'm ready to hear some info on the premise and villians of TF 4!
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422841)
Posted by Burn on September 22nd, 2012 @ 1:01am CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:The only problems with the franchise now are due to the global economic situation and Hasbro's mind boggling incompetence. You can't find a Vehicon? Then ask Hasbro why they put an awesome figure that also happens to be an army builder 1 per case. The deluxe figures are getting smaller and more expensive? So is everything else.


The other thing you need to factor in too is change in buying habits.

A lot of people are moving their shopping online. Shopping for your kid? Do it from home, you don't have to go running from store to store to find a particular toy, or worse, have to drag the kids along and let them see what they're getting.

People seem to forget all this and just scream "BAY IS TEH EVIL!". Get over it people and look at the bigger picture.
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Posted by User897 on September 22nd, 2012 @ 1:32am CDT
So it's just going to be more of the same old shit with flashy "new" characters to try and distract us into liking it. Again.

I'm so glad I sold off all of my movie toys.

Aside from Masterpiece Optimus Prime, Masterpiece Soundwave, and maybe one or two others, it looks like I'm going to continue saving a lot of money. Between what HasBLO is doing to Star Wars and Transformers, and more Bay crap on the way, I can concentrate on getting good toys.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422849)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on September 22nd, 2012 @ 1:50am CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:
reluctantyouth wrote::michaelbay: Bay will make a lot of dough regardless. Being compared to the likes of Jackson and Cameron in the interview is a complete joke...could you boost the guys ego anymore than it already has been? :michaelbay: When it comes to all fandoms there are pricks in every set...bashing each other solves nothing. I have as much respect for the Trekers and Star Wars fans as the TF fans. If Bay wants to do this movie right...then the inevitable has to happen...kill Bumblebee in the opening sequence! :CON: Bring in Hot Shot or add some beasts to the bunch and bring in Cheetor. We need a young new hothead in the group with a lot to learn that is not just comic relief. Optimus needs to age a bit...not falling apart like Jetfire but enough to show he has battle scars. Bring in the rest of the seekers and have a new leader emerge among them. Give the Autobots some damn air support...I want to see Sky Linx. There are so many things that can be done. As far as the :CON: leader goes...well I'd hate to see Galvatron...but Bay doesn't have much of an imagination.

:APPLAUSE:
I'd like to see Galvatron, but only if he is done right.
Also would love to see the following:

Dinobots
Insecticons
Headmasters
Trypticon or Metroplex or Omega Supreme


I agree with the majority of what you guys say, but the "kill Bumblebee" thing might not be feasible.

Hasbro might be reluctant to kill off Bumblebee, who (they think, at least) is a massive cash cow and by now an iconic kid appeal character.

I've like to see and end to Bee, though. As much as I like his updated design in the movie, his radio voice thing is really starting to get old. Especially now that it's starting to influence the other mediums like the Prime series and video games.

MINDVVIPE wrote:As someone mentioned, they need a Transformers CGI movie that spawned from the story writers from HIGH MOON, and maybe the author of the books, as I've heard good things about them.


If only.

Bay loves to do his comedy thing, and the WFC/FOC and novels are pretty somber and serious. His brand of jokes might not blend in too well with the kind of story the games and novels tell.

Just my two cents' worth.
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Posted by redoutlander on September 22nd, 2012 @ 1:54am CDT
BATTOUSAI XD wrote:I'm glad to see Peter Cullen is returning. I do hope they tone down Prime's eagerness for violence a little bit though. I'm fine with him being a warrior and all but I'd rather ripping heads and appendages off be a last resort and not hear him say "Give me your face," "We'll kill them all," and "You die!" So, basically how he was in the first movie.

I don't know why they haven't just said it is a sequel all along. It's obviously not a reboot and if it picks up from Chicago, then it doesn't seem to be a reinvention or whatever else has been suggested. Anyway I'm all for another movie(s), though I doubt any will be better than the first for me, it got me back interested in Transformers and into collecting in general. And I'm ready to hear some info on the premise and villians of TF 4!


You hit it there! I think that that Prime loosing his boy scout hero to a fault personality hurt me the most. The Prime I know would bend down and give Megatron a hand up after a fight. But i learned that Bayformers isn't the Transformers I grew up with. It's another story that happens to be based on Transformers. It's the same thing Hollywood does with all material. it was the 2007 movie that got me back into Transformers (or at least the initial pre movie buzz) and I think more fans are good. I just feel that there could be wiser choices made if the responsible parties focused on something a little more honorable than the bottom line.
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Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on September 22nd, 2012 @ 2:00am CDT
BATTOUSAI XD wrote:I'm glad to see Peter Cullen is returning. I do hope they tone down Prime's eagerness for violence a little bit though. I'm fine with him being a warrior and all but I'd rather ripping heads and appendages off be a last resort and not hear him say "Give me your face," "We'll kill them all," and "You die!" So, basically how he was in the first movie.


QFT. That said, I'd rather not see him get thrown around like a bitch, like in the first movie. He should hold his own and fight fiercely, but with a visible reluctance. Like any hero, he should reflect on the death of his enemy and wish it didn't have to come to this, which the first movie got right, except it shouldn't have been fricking Sam who offed Megs.

In short, I'd like to see him emulate the Optimus in the video games, instead of collecting faces.

Another thing I'd like to add is that if Bay is going to include the military in the film as NEST forces, at least have them bond a little with their Cybertronian allies, like hanging out or something. Sam seems to be the only one who has any form of relationship with the TF's at all.

I don't like that Lennox keeps calling the TF's "things" in DOTM either.
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Posted by Evil_the_Nub on September 22nd, 2012 @ 5:41am CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'd rather not see him get thrown around like a bitch, like in the first movie. He should hold his own and fight fiercely, but with a visible reluctance. Like any hero, he should reflect on the death of his enemy and wish it didn't have to come to this, which the first movie got right, except it shouldn't have been fricking Sam who offed Megs.

The way the game ended was much better. First he beat Megatron and then...
Personally I prefer it when Optimus is kicking ass and taking faces. It makes the Decepticons seems so much more evil. Here's a guy who has shown immense compassion to the human race, treating them as equals and sacrificing himself to protect them. But when he reacts so violently toward the Decepticons it tells me he's seen the horrible things they're capable of and how dangerous they can be when left unchallenged. Kinda like what makes the Joker a great villain. He's able to bring out the worst in Batman.
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Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on September 22nd, 2012 @ 7:00am CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'd rather not see him get thrown around like a bitch, like in the first movie. He should hold his own and fight fiercely, but with a visible reluctance. Like any hero, he should reflect on the death of his enemy and wish it didn't have to come to this, which the first movie got right, except it shouldn't have been fricking Sam who offed Megs.

The way the game ended was much better. First he beat Megatron and then...
Personally I prefer it when Optimus is kicking ass and taking faces. It makes the Decepticons seems so much more evil. Here's a guy who has shown immense compassion to the human race, treating them as equals and sacrificing himself to protect them. But when he reacts so violently toward the Decepticons it tells me he's seen the horrible things they're capable of and how dangerous they can be when left unchallenged. Kinda like what makes the Joker a great villain. He's able to bring out the worst in Batman.


You present a very good point, there.

Personally, the only problem I have with DOTM is that OP should have seemed more reluctant in killing Sentinel. Regardless of the fact that Sentinel betrayed the Autobots and was willing to enslave the humans, this is Optimus's mentor and old friend. It's like your best friend going rogue and planning to blow up your school/workplace. You know you have to do it, but you don't want to, despite how far he's fallen.

OP didn't display that reluctance.

Worse, the solution to that was already built into the story: Ironhide's death. That would have snapped OP out of his reluctance. And a simple line in the end like, "This is for Ironhide," would have served to illustrate that for the audience.

And yeah, the first movie would have been perfect if it used the ending from the video game. But as is happens, Mr. Spielberg insisted it was Sam's story, and wanted him to finish Megs off.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422896)
Posted by dragons on September 22nd, 2012 @ 7:31am CDT
Burn wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:The only problems with the franchise now are due to the global economic situation and Hasbro's mind boggling incompetence. You can't find a Vehicon? Then ask Hasbro why they put an awesome figure that also happens to be an army builder 1 per case. The deluxe figures are getting smaller and more expensive? So is everything else.


The other thing you need to factor in too is change in buying habits.

A lot of people are moving their shopping online. Shopping for your kid? Do it from home, you don't have to go running from store to store to find a particular toy, or worse, have to drag the kids along and let them see what they're getting.

People seem to forget all this and just scream "BAY IS TEH EVIL!". Get over it people and look at the bigger picture.


poeple need realize half people who shop online is for gas prices to expensive drive to store to store but its cheaper when you add on shipping costs to shop online i can understand if that person has busy schedual works 8am to 11pm shopping online would be an option for half people,
but other half people who shop online are plain lazy thats where netflix, gamefly, buying online, dating online comes in people rather do more online that get out meet intersting people in ther area have common interst.

other memeber dont feel like serching i agrre with that memeber dont put bumblebee in every series repaint most wanted figures need to buy online or dont find with less quantity in selection i ave up loking for vehicon in stores had buy it online which i hate i like to hunt them down meet people help out other customers in store whic employees have no clue what there customer is looking for half time ( bumblebee, & prime are shelf warmers )
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422963)
Posted by noctorro on September 22nd, 2012 @ 1:04pm CDT
I can't wait for the next TF film.

I just hope the toys are screen accurate and have the right weapons.
The first movie line was very well done, same for the second accept they forgot to make 2 or 3 more constructicons (who have bot modes). DOTM was the best movie imho, but the movie line the worst. I really wanted a Leader Megatron/Shockwave.

I don't agree with the whole story about how the movies destroyed Transformers. It was pretty sad series wise with the Unicron Trilogy. I heard because it was made by japanese it was aimed at a younger audience.

Great to hear Mr. Cullen is onboard. I'd love to see Optimus Prime in a new rendition. Hopefully they pay attention to The Avengers, The Dark Knight and of course Fall Of Cybertron to make a better movie then DOTM. One should always try to improve.

And yess it could've been worse, if Mr. Uwe Boll got his hands on the franchise we'd all weep. My gawd, Bloodrayne could've been so cool. Kinda like Underworld but a bit more comic like and sexy and with more humor.

Now should I still get a deluxe Leadfoot? The thing is expensive as sin.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422967)
Posted by noctorro on September 22nd, 2012 @ 1:08pm CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'd rather not see him get thrown around like a bitch, like in the first movie. He should hold his own and fight fiercely, but with a visible reluctance. Like any hero, he should reflect on the death of his enemy and wish it didn't have to come to this, which the first movie got right, except it shouldn't have been fricking Sam who offed Megs.

The way the game ended was much better. First he beat Megatron and then...
Personally I prefer it when Optimus is kicking ass and taking faces. It makes the Decepticons seems so much more evil. Here's a guy who has shown immense compassion to the human race, treating them as equals and sacrificing himself to protect them. But when he reacts so violently toward the Decepticons it tells me he's seen the horrible things they're capable of and how dangerous they can be when left unchallenged. Kinda like what makes the Joker a great villain. He's able to bring out the worst in Batman.


Good stuff, good stuff.

I also like the ROTF ending, the game was great and the story in it as well.
At the end of the Decepticon campaign The Fallen turns on Megatron, when I first saw that I thought that The Fallen thought Megatron was also a Prime.
Since Optimus said something like "you left me no choice brother" in the first movie.
I also really like that it was pushed forward that Megatron was trying to save Cybertron and not be a mindless villain who just wanted to troll and kill others.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422976)
Posted by XDMan on September 22nd, 2012 @ 1:55pm CDT
As long as Prime is in his G1 colors and has a permanent mouthplate, we could deal with that.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1422995)
Posted by noctorro on September 22nd, 2012 @ 3:39pm CDT
piano mouth was a bit strange :)
I don't mind the design very much, but a more solid windshield chestplate and no "cool" flames would be nice.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1423046)
Posted by Bubbah on September 22nd, 2012 @ 7:22pm CDT
It's not that I hate the movies, they're decent movies ... But do we really need Wheelie humping someone's leg, Jetfire farting, closeups of a metallic tail coming from Alice's backside, etc? I have no problem with an increase in popularaity, unless it's popular for the same reason Jersey Shore is popular haha. We all know the movies aren't perfect, but they're entertaining. My problem is with Bay doing the same thing over and over claiming this is what the fandom wants. I'm sorry, but most fans would rather see a High Moon scripted movie than a Bay film any day of the week. But I do agree, things like death theats against Bay for flames on Prime, etc are over the top. All fandoms have extremes on both sides. Ours has Bay haters, Bay lovers and those in the middle. But we all have one thing in common, we love our franchise and want the best for it.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1423051)
Posted by Sodan-1 on September 22nd, 2012 @ 7:31pm CDT
Michael Bay wrote:And someone could come in here and screw it up, you know?

Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1423186)
Posted by Kiracon on September 23rd, 2012 @ 9:03am CDT
Here's how I see it. Came to me in a dream last night. Transformers 4: Rescue Bots' the movie. Justin Beiber as Cody Burns. All new cast, Optimus Prime returns, for the first 15 mins of the movie.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1423335)
Posted by redoutlander on September 23rd, 2012 @ 5:28pm CDT
Kiracon wrote:Here's how I see it. Came to me in a dream last night. Transformers 4: Rescue Bots' the movie. Justin Beiber as Cody Burns. All new cast, Optimus Prime returns, for the first 15 mins of the movie.


Don't forget random jailbait girl, and bubble bee get's his voice back with his new one liner "F*(& this $#%+".
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1423623)
Posted by Sodan-1 on September 24th, 2012 @ 12:16pm CDT
T-Macksimus wrote:...people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.

Lol. I'm pretty sure the rest of society wouldn't give a crap if we Transformers fans had our own civil war in which we caved each others skulls in with Fortress Maximus and RoTF Devastators.
Re: More Transformers 4 Update from Michael Bay - Peter Cullen Will Return (1423857)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on September 25th, 2012 @ 6:06am CDT
Well... if all else fails to you...

At least Transformers made it to the big scree in live action. :lol:
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