New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Saturday, September 7th, 2013 10:39PM CDT

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We're proud to present new Seibertron.com galleries of Takara Tomy's Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker. Starscream is a slight redeco of Hasbro's Transformers Prime Robots In Disguise Voyager Class Starscream and he comes with his Micron Gul. Thundercracker, following Transformers tradition, is a redeco and retool of First Edition Starscream and includes his Micron Silver Metal Balo. Check out these new galleries by clicking on any of the pictures below.

Arms Micron Thundercracker

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker


Arms Micron Silver Metal Balo

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker


Arms Micron Starscream

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker

Transformers News: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker


Arms Micron Gul

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Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516554)
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:04pm CDT
I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516556)
Posted by RAcast on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:15pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.

For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516562)
Posted by Seibertron on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:31pm CDT
RAcast wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.

For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.


I've seen Noideaforaname's comments stated elsewhere by other members. I'm assuming it's because Skywarp and Thundercracker have no fictional portrayal in the Transformers Prime cartoons or comics so they seem very much like repaints of Starscream. Had Skywarp and Thundercracker been portrayed in the cartoon from the beginning, people would be more accepting of them. I'm really surprised they were neglected in Prime and in the live action movies. It seems like including those two characters would make a lot of fans happy and provide a way for them to save some costs with CGI. I'm glad they didn't cheap out by replacing Dreadwing and/or Skyquake with Skywarp and Thundercracker, but I've always thought those two would've been great secondary characters to have in the live action films such as Jolt, Sideswipe (who didn't really shine until DOTM), etc.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516566)
Posted by RAcast on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:39pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
RAcast wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.

For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.


I've seen Noideaforaname's comments stated elsewhere by other members. I'm assuming it's because Skywarp and Thundercracker have no fictional portrayal in the Transformers Prime cartoons or comics so they seem very much like repaints of Starscream. Had Skywarp and Thundercracker been portrayed in the cartoon from the beginning, people would be more accepting of them. I'm really surprised they were neglected in Prime and in the live action movies. It seems like including those two characters would make a lot of fans happy and provide a way for them to save some costs with CGI. I'm glad they didn't cheap out by replacing Dreadwing and/or Skyquake with Skywarp and Thundercracker, but I've always thought those two would've been great secondary characters to have in the live action films such as Jolt, Sideswipe (who didn't really shine until DOTM), etc.

That's pretty much what I was expecting, and I agree to a point, but the design behind Prime Starscream just feels right to me, if that makes sense. It's a shame they didn't have Skywarp and Thundercracker show up in any real way, but oh well, missed opportunities and such.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516567)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:42pm CDT
I agree: would've been a pretty neat shout-out to fans if they had included Skywarp and Thundercracker in Prime.

Call me insane, but I kinda want to see them tackle Acid Storm from this mold. I happen to like camo patterns very much. :lol:
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516569)
Posted by xyl360 on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:50pm CDT
I have all the repaints, but for the most part, I agree with Noideaforaname. The reason I do has more to do with the characteristics of the bot mode. Normal seeker toys (G1, Classics/Generations, MP etc.) use a very generic robot form. TF:Prime uses an extremely characterized form, including various elements of posture, facial design, facial expression etc. that can only really be 1 character: TF: Prime Starscream (or Starscream in general, really). The humanization of the characters in Prime makes repaints into other characters (without SERIOUS repainting and remolding at least) virtually impossible in my opinion, especially for Starscream, who even transforms in such a way that everything from his hands and elbows and the posture of his shoulders and torso all give him a sort of "body language" that is unmistakably him, and ONLY him.

I just can't really see that mold as anyone else unless TC and SW had been recolored clones or something (as in the episode where he created clones of himself using protoforms). But as just generic seeker Decepticons who happen to share the same form as him (a-la G1), it just doesn't work. At least not for me.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516570)
Posted by Agamemnon on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:56pm CDT
Or, y'know, it would be nice to have a face that isn't just another Starscream smirk...

Personally, I'd just like to see domestic releases of all three characters rather than having to spring for expensive imports. I'd even be happy with straight-up repaints at that point. (Prime makeovers of the coneheads might've been cool too from both the show and toys. Instead we get drones that are winged cars, and a silver general winged car drone...)
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516571)
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 8th, 2013 @ 12:02am CDT
The original Starscream design is a rather generic jet-robot, so you could apply "treacherous schemer", "idiot prankster", "doubtful of the Decepticon cause", or any other personality and none would look out of place.
Prime Starscream, however, was definitely designed to be a scheming, aloof, not-really-a-direct-fighter; in other words, Starscream specifically. I have a hard time seeing Skywarp or Thundercracker, instead I'm just seeing "the schemer" in different colors.

'Course, if the Seeker Trio were introduced all at once this way in the cartoon I suppose I'd have a different opinion, but that didn't happen and Starscream went on to become on of the best Starscreams ever (the "definitive" one, I'd say, at least in Season 1) so simply recoloring his toy (or creating a new head that doesn't really look all that different save for the lack of crest and added lipstick) doesn't work for me.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516616)
Posted by megatronus on September 8th, 2013 @ 9:43am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Or, y'know, it would be nice to have a face that isn't just another Starscream smirk...

Personally, I'd just like to see domestic releases of all three characters rather than having to spring for expensive imports. I'd even be happy with straight-up repaints at that point. (Prime makeovers of the coneheads might've been cool too from both the show and toys. Instead we get drones that are winged cars, and a silver general winged car drone...)

The Dark Energon Starscream is an easy replacement option for imported Skywarp. He looks great, and the clear parts arguably make him even more Skywarp-y (a la Machine Wars).
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516621)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 8th, 2013 @ 11:23am CDT
I agree with xyl360 that it's hard to see these repaints as anything other than his clones, and they lacked the divergent personality traits and color schemes of Animated Starscream's clones. So even if it's easy to fanwank them in as such, I still find it pretty hard to see these repaints as other Seekers rather than other Starscreams.

Or maybe it's still just too hard to accept those stiletto-heels as standard issue for a body template.

Except for Slipstream, of course. She's the only redeco I've got so far, and while the others would be nice, I'm in no rush.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516645)
Posted by Joetx on September 8th, 2013 @ 1:35pm CDT
In the second pic, who is the one on the far right?

And, in the same pic, I guess the one on the top left is the Japanese version of Starscream?
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516646)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on September 8th, 2013 @ 1:39pm CDT
Joetx wrote:In the second pic, who is the one on the far right?

And, in the same pic, I guess the one on the top left is the Japanese version of Starscream?


The one on the far right is Entertainment Pack Starscream. He was seemingly released only in Europe.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516662)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on September 8th, 2013 @ 2:48pm CDT
The mould doesn't work for Thundercracker or Skywarp, but only for Starscream. I would say it's because the robot mode emobodies too much of the snivelling, sneaky, backstabbing, and non-upright standards of conduct that Starscream possesses and lives by. Thundercracker has too much of a backbone, and Skywarp is too brave, or atleast confident to look so egor-like.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1516664)
Posted by megatronus on September 8th, 2013 @ 2:53pm CDT
I largely agree with what has been said:

(1) Only Starscream is represented in the show
(2) Starscream's character model is an embodiment of his personality

Thus, the mold will forever scream (pun intended) Starscream, regardless of what character he is nominally repainted to be.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1517867)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 14th, 2013 @ 11:27pm CDT
Seibertron.com is pleased to present to the public a trio of new toy galleries! Today, we show off the Japanese versions of Transformers Prime: First Edition Megatron, Arcee, and the Hasbro release of Cliffjumper. Unlike the Japanese version of the Prime line, the First Edition toys do not feature Microns. There are also very minor deco differences between these releases and those released elsewhere.

First Edition Megatron








Transformers Prime: First Edition Cliffjumper










First Edition Arcee





Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1517910)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on September 15th, 2013 @ 6:41am CDT
FE Arcee might not be very screen accurate, but she's definitely got better looking back kibble than the PRID version, particularly when you rotate the wheel 90 degrees and fit part of it into the slot in her back.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1517930)
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 15th, 2013 @ 10:36am CDT
Is it me, or do the toys never quite capture Megatron's head right? Like, the shape is all off, or maybe it's painted the wrong colors. Silver definitely does NOT capture that distinct rottenness of Meg's face.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1517969)
Posted by hinomars19 on September 15th, 2013 @ 3:03pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Is it me, or do the toys never quite capture Megatron's head right? Like, the shape is all off, or maybe it's painted the wrong colors. Silver definitely does NOT capture that distinct rottenness of Meg's face.


Lack of a darker colour on the face is doing that, me thinks.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1517973)
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 15th, 2013 @ 3:55pm CDT
Looking at some screencaps, I think it's the face being much lighter, the eyes being "dead", the teeth being the same color as the rest of his face, how the mouth is actually open like he's saying something and not just clenching his teeth, the back of his mouth also being silver, and the weird impression of a nose-ring at a distance that's throwing me off. The Cyberverse doesn't look anywhere near as weird as the larger toys, and it doesn't have any of those things above.
Re: New Galleries: Arms Micron Starscream and Thundercracker (1517982)
Posted by megatronus on September 15th, 2013 @ 4:22pm CDT
Despite the flaws, I still think the FE Deluxe is light years ahead of PRID Voyager Megatron.

Honestly, they should have just upsized this mold, with his proper arm cannon, and I would have been ecstatic.

Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm - allegedly the best deco of the Voyager Megatron mold - is somewhat of a let down.

Sigh.

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