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New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide

Friday, February 5th, 2016 1:47AM CST

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We are proud to present, you young nut-bolters, a new addition to the Seibertron.com gallery database, venturing back into the Transformers Masterpiece toy line from Takara Tomy with MP-27 Ironhide! From its first odd toy incarnation, through some less than excellent toys in the years, Ironhide seems to have always received the odd end of the axle - does this latest product of engineering and design make up for it though?

Find out by clicking on any of the images below, as the toy is shown in both its Cherry Vanette vehicle and glossy red robot mode, along with all its accessories (which can be stored in the battle sled) such as his Laser pistol, Static Laser Gun, missile launcher, and wrist sonodar. If those still don't convince you, change his demeanour with two extra alternate hands, four nozzles, chest screen, and two additional facial expressions!

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Transformers News: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide

Transformers News: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide

Transformers News: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide

Transformers News: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide

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Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763231)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 5th, 2016 @ 9:11am CST
Wait a sec, his weapons platform doesn't have any treads or anything to prop it up off the ground? It seriously just sits there like a legless table?

:BANG_HEAD:
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763257)
Posted by Seibertron on February 5th, 2016 @ 10:45am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec, his weapons platform doesn't have any treads or anything to prop it up off the ground? It seriously just sits there like a legless table?

:BANG_HEAD:


Yep, you can add that to the small list of other major issues with the hip panels, rear butt wheels, and the severe lack of a side torso that screws up his silhouette. Had they figured out those 3 things, Ironhide would be right up there with Prowl and Wheeljack.

Also, there's a design flaw with his guns, at least the laser pistols. You can't get them in or out of his hand without causing some minor damage to the handle of those guns. Basically mine have a dented groove where his thumb or fingers were now from taking them in and out of his hands. It's a minor issue because you'd never see it in robot mode while he's holding that weapon. He unfortunately has the opposite issue of some of the Masterpiece figures who have trouble keeping their weapons in their hands, his are difficult to get out.

There are a lot of things that I really like about this figure. The transformation is amazing (and you can transform those two panels with the clips that are a little too big without damaging the plastic, you just have to finesse them). The amount of accessories is incredible for an official toy. The posability is fantastic. The head sculpt is much better in person than it appeared in pictures. He looks great from the side. He looks great from the back, butt wheels aside. He looks pretty good from the front. I would argue that his blocky panels need some more detail, cartoon accurate or not ... I made the same argument about Ultra Magnus. Overall, he's a good figure but there are some major issues keeping him from truly being a "masterpiece" to me. Prowl and Wheeljack continue to be the best Masterpiece figures to date in my book.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763291)
Posted by Microraptor on February 5th, 2016 @ 12:54pm CST
The pics with Streak just make me feel worse about the fact that mine had his door snap off at the hinge. :-(
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763451)
Posted by Seibertron on February 5th, 2016 @ 6:12pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec, his weapons platform doesn't have any treads or anything to prop it up off the ground? It seriously just sits there like a legless table?

:BANG_HEAD:


Out of curiosity, did anyone catch that he can have a cartoon accurate chest as well?

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Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763460)
Posted by LegendaryAntiHero on February 5th, 2016 @ 6:55pm CST
Those Ironhide pictures look excellent
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763509)
Posted by f-primus-unicron on February 5th, 2016 @ 9:25pm CST
fix for the sideskirts, wheelcheeks and lack of torso sides, cut the sideskirts where they connect to the waist(leave the wheels attached to them) and glue to the chest(the fron of the vehicle where they should be in vehicle mode) because of the way it transforms, they will end up on the sides, so no need to partsform them or make any complicated joint, the wheels will still be connected to the panels so they at least could be angles downwards(just over where the side skirts originally were, and the best thing, is, still will retain the waist articulation, although a bit hindered, but not much more than it was
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763510)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 5th, 2016 @ 9:28pm CST
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec, his weapons platform doesn't have any treads or anything to prop it up off the ground? It seriously just sits there like a legless table?

:BANG_HEAD:


Out of curiosity, did anyone catch that he can have a cartoon accurate chest as well?
Tis not shaped cartoon-accurate, though, which was one of the things that gets me about this figure since the trapezoidal windshield helps make him look fat.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763546)
Posted by Prowl4 on February 5th, 2016 @ 10:55pm CST
I've had this guy now a few days and from seeing pictures I wasn't that excited about getting one of my most beloved characters in mp form. The face in pictures looked flat, the window forearms looked really bad and the hips were a pure eyesore. I wasn't a huge fan of his chest either because his cartoon model had a very tight rectangular chest. I do believe with the lack of van and indeed Ironhide figures produced by hasbro and takara that this had a knock on effect no practice before making this figure made it far from perfect.

But....I got him in my hands and I forgot about these details I just fell in love. The head sculpt and face were infinitely better in person than I had expected, no picture has done his head and face justice believe me, and the shade of red used was beautiful. I'm in love with the figure and certain poses make him look incredible. He can look like he's convincingly shaking his fist ready to bust some deceptichops. The range of movement for the head is astounding and makes him so expressive. Is he perfect? No. Am I glad that I picked up one of my all time favourite characters? Yes.

I like him that much I'm most likely going to buy ratchet.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763584)
Posted by LegendaryAntiHero on February 6th, 2016 @ 12:26am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec, his weapons platform doesn't have any treads or anything to prop it up off the ground? It seriously just sits there like a legless table?

:BANG_HEAD:


Out of curiosity, did anyone catch that he can have a cartoon accurate chest as well?
Tis not shaped cartoon-accurate, though, which was one of the things that gets me about this figure since the trapezoidal windshield helps make him look fat.

I agree it's not show accurate but Ironhide looks fine for the most part
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1763722)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on February 6th, 2016 @ 2:37pm CST
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec, his weapons platform doesn't have any treads or anything to prop it up off the ground? It seriously just sits there like a legless table?

:BANG_HEAD:


Out of curiosity, did anyone catch that he can have a cartoon accurate chest as well?

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How :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771078)
Posted by william-james88 on March 3rd, 2016 @ 9:11am CST
Another month rolls in, another Takara Masterpiece figure comes out and you can be sure Seibertron will give you a gallery. This time it is for Takara's Masterpiece MP-28 Hot Rodimus, or as well call him in the west, Hot Rod.

This is a hotly anticipated figure since it is Takara's second take on this character in the Masterpiece line, and a chance to make up for the previous figure which a majority of fans found underwhelming. While this is similar to how Takara did an MP redux on Optimus Prime and Starscream, this figure differs in the fact that it is clearly an interpretation of the Hot Rod character from the 1986 Transformers film and not the Rodimus character he becomes later. The previous Masterpiece toy tried to represent both and thus a lot was sacrificed, leaving a gap in everyone's Masterpiece collection for an actual Hot Rod toy which could scale better with the newer Masterpiece figures post MP 10 (Optimus Prime).

You can be the judge of how well this toy answers your needs with the pictures in the gallery, which contain an extensive amount fo comparison pictures with the toys mentionned above and Ultra Magnus, among others. About Ultra Magnus, early pictures showed the capability for Hot Rod's car mode to fit on Ultra Magnus' trailer. While he can, Hot Rod's car mode is too wide to enter the trailer via the ramps. Let us know if you spot anything else in the gallery that you were unaware of before and if anything you see helps you make up your mind on whether or not this toy is for you.

Enjoy!

Transformers Masterpiece Hot Rodimus

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Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771093)
Posted by Randomhero on March 3rd, 2016 @ 10:03am CST
He looks really great. Glad to see the comparisons with the original MP Rodimus. People just keep showing comparison that 3rd party garbage figure. He's really tempting but I'm saving my Master Piece purchasing for Shockwave
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771098)
Posted by cloudballoon on March 3rd, 2016 @ 10:31am CST
This new Hotrod is definitely more fun to play with, and scale better, but it got its own issues. The ground clearance in alt mode, the comparative lack of details (vs. Hasbro's toy accurate red lower legs with paint apps), the flat chest, the overall body proportion, etc. are a turn off to me. As a shelf display piece, IMO the old MP is still better.

Guess I'm the lucky few since my old MP Rodimus doesn't have any major QC issues as so many others have, so I never hated the toy.

I'd surely trade the old for the new though if I get the opportunity just for that new toy smell. :-D
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771104)
Posted by william-james88 on March 3rd, 2016 @ 10:45am CST
cloudballoon wrote: The ground clearance in alt mode


Yours has ground clearance issues? It was debunked when people started to get him that any gound clearance issue was due to mistransformation.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771118)
Posted by Seibertron on March 3rd, 2016 @ 11:43am CST
william-james88 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote: The ground clearance in alt mode


Yours has ground clearance issues? It was debunked when people started to get him that any gound clearance issue was due to mistransformation.


There are two things that cause the ground clearance issue ... when his lower legs are not properly pegged into the two tabs on the underside of where the spoiler is located and when the orange collar is not properly positioned. Once those two areas are properly adjusted, he just barely has ground clearance, but isn't that kind of typical of fancy looking sports cars in the real world? :D
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771126)
Posted by cloudballoon on March 3rd, 2016 @ 12:32pm CST
I bet even real world super cars got better clearance than this Hotrod .... besides, no car owner really care the underside of their car other than the mechanics :lol:

I'm getting evermore selective in my purchases. As shelf space is more "premium" even than the cost of the purchase sometimes. Hard for me to justify buying another figure with basically the same look. What's why I don't mind trading the old one for the new... if someone bites :-D
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771129)
Posted by Seibertron on March 3rd, 2016 @ 12:44pm CST
Some other thoughts on this figure ...

I like him a lot better in hand, but I still have issues with him. Legs and groin area are not wide enough, legs are a little too long, but those things can be chalked up to style choice. My biggest gripe, even more so than the flat chest, is the very obnxious red pieces that stick up behind his head and interfere with his silhouette with regards to the yellow spoiler behind his head. For a Masterpiece figure, that should have been resolved by rotating those pieces 180 degrees or by having a couple of extra panels that fold down, which would also help fill in the gap behind his head. I even figured out an alternate chest transformation that bulks him up a little more and gives some additional dimension to his awkward chest. The backpack isn't quite as obnoxious as it appears in pictures online either.

Hot Rodimus is better than Tracks (though both suffer from being too thin) but not as good as Wheeljack (who is currently my personal "this one is perfect" Masterpiece figure, with Prowl being an extremely close second). I have issues with Ultra Magnus as well, though he has some clever transformations. The unique transformation on Hot Rod is his upper arms which you'll see when you get him.

Transformation is enjoyable and good and most everything has a place to peg into. Face sculpt is great, head shape is great, visor implementation is great. Hands are great for holding weapons, but his middle finger is sculpted weird and the joints that are seen on many Transformers fingers are too large so they look like he's wearing multiple rings on each finger.

One other thing that irks me on him ... his upper legs connect to his pelvis via ball joints which I'm not a fan of on a Masterpiece figure. It kind of makes him seem like he could have been a really nicely done Generations figure had he been downsized a bit to fit in scale with those figures.

It's a good figure, it just needed a few more things done to make him a true Masterpiece.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771174)
Posted by Emerje on March 3rd, 2016 @ 4:05pm CST
I'm just glad to see the windows are a proper blue and not just barely tinted like a lot of the earlier in-hand pictures showed. I still need to get myself an Ultra Magnus, but unfortunately the next few months are very expensive looking thanks to MP Shockwave and Grand Galvatron among other things.

Emerje
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771326)
Posted by Transformers fan on March 4th, 2016 @ 11:06am CST
I believe that Takara Tomys second take on Hot Rodimus:-? was that the original who was also Rodimus Convoy suffered from numerous quality control issues
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771339)
Posted by galvatron00 on March 4th, 2016 @ 12:31pm CST
Seibertron wrote:...but not as good as Wheeljack (who is currently my personal "this one is perfect" Masterpiece figure, with Prowl being an extremely close second).
Wooooo Wheeljack!! I adore that dang figure.
Seibertron wrote:...I have issues with Ultra Magnus as well, though he has some clever transformations.
I'm scared now. Ultra Magnus and Hot Rod will be arriving together Saturday or Monday. I really hope I'm not disappointed with UM considering how expensive he ended up being.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771340)
Posted by Cobotron on March 4th, 2016 @ 12:42pm CST
itscramtastic wrote:
Seibertron wrote:...but not as good as Wheeljack (who is currently my personal "this one is perfect" Masterpiece figure, with Prowl being an extremely close second).
Wooooo Wheeljack!! I adore that dang figure.
Seibertron wrote:...I have issues with Ultra Magnus as well, though he has some clever transformations.
I'm scared now. Ultra Magnus and Hot Rod will be arriving together Saturday or Monday. I really hope I'm not disappointed with UM considering how expensive he ended up being.
Quit yer frettin' Cram. It's gonna be alright. :D


Seibs, if you're still out there. You have said a lot lately that you wish Takara would ease back on taking the cartoon models so literally when designing these more recent MPs, what's your take on Hot Rod in that regard?
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771345)
Posted by galvatron00 on March 4th, 2016 @ 12:51pm CST
Cobotron wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:
Seibertron wrote:...but not as good as Wheeljack (who is currently my personal "this one is perfect" Masterpiece figure, with Prowl being an extremely close second).
Wooooo Wheeljack!! I adore that dang figure.
Seibertron wrote:...I have issues with Ultra Magnus as well, though he has some clever transformations.
I'm scared now. Ultra Magnus and Hot Rod will be arriving together Saturday or Monday. I really hope I'm not disappointed with UM considering how expensive he ended up being.
Quit yer frettin' Cram. It's gonna be alright. :D
:DANCE: :DANCE:
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771362)
Posted by william-james88 on March 4th, 2016 @ 2:00pm CST
itscramtastic wrote:
Seibertron wrote:...but not as good as Wheeljack (who is currently my personal "this one is perfect" Masterpiece figure, with Prowl being an extremely close second).
Wooooo Wheeljack!! I adore that dang figure.


He is phenominal and also my favourite MP. He will be on a few lists to come :DANCE:
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771463)
Posted by Seibertron on March 5th, 2016 @ 1:06am CST
Cobotron wrote:Seibs, if you're still out there. You have said a lot lately that you wish Takara would ease back on taking the cartoon models so literally when designing these more recent MPs, what's your take on Hot Rod in that regard?


Yes, I still think they're taking the cartoon models too seriously. Convoy Grand Prime is another recent example where they try to go after the cartoon look with some extra paint apps (particularly on the hands of Mirage and Optimus Prime) but it ends up looking kind of goofy because the hands are painted but the inside of the fist (where the weapon's peg attaches) is unpainted.

Do it right or don't do it.

Same goes with the ultra simplicity of the look of Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus. There needs to be some extra detail on their parts. I always liked that the cartoon models were simplified versions of the toys. There needs to be a healthy mixture of what's on the screen and the complexity of a robotic humanoid figure. I'm not talking complexity like Bayformers, just some extra detailing in panels and such that wouldn't translate to the cartoon. Regardless of what was on the cartoon, oftentimes the actual G1 toys got it right with its style and look and that look might be better remembered than what the cartoon had.

One exception to my rule ... can we please have an accurate G1 Skyfire toy? Please! Classics Jetfire doesn't count. Generations Jetfire was close if he had the look of the cartoon jet instead of the Macross jet.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1771818)
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2016 @ 8:57am CST
Seibertron wrote:There needs to be a healthy mixture of what's on the screen and the complexity of a robotic humanoid figure. I'm not talking complexity like Bayformers, just some extra detailing in panels and such that wouldn't translate to the cartoon. Regardless of what was on the cartoon, oftentimes the actual G1 toys got it right with its style and look and that look might be better remembered than what the cartoon had.


I'm reading this and all I can think about is how MP Wheeljack answers all this perfectly!

The problem with Hot Rod and Magnus is that they are fictional vehicles and thus were not based on real and more detailed vehicles that the toys could pick up on. So we are left with the simpler animation models (which at least were introduced to the west through the film which had more detailed animation).
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1772043)
Posted by Optimizzy on March 8th, 2016 @ 8:14am CST
Mine is just now on its way. Is anyone else using it in a CHUG display?


Also: first post in like 3 months. How's it going? Lol
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1772058)
Posted by Cobotron on March 8th, 2016 @ 10:21am CST
Optimizzy wrote:Mine is just now on its way. Is anyone else using it in a CHUG display?


Also: first post in like 3 months. How's it going? Lol


Hey Mizzy! :D

Just got mine yesterday. Still absorbing.
Never thought about putting him in with the CHUGs. He's pretty big, ya know, he might make a nice Rodimus Prime with the CHUGers. That's an interesting way of looking at him.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1772085)
Posted by Optimizzy on March 8th, 2016 @ 12:17pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Just got mine yesterday. Still absorbing.
Never thought about putting him in with the CHUGs. He's pretty big, ya know, he might make a nice Rodimus Prime with the CHUGers. That's an interesting way of looking at him.


Yeah I knew he was on the big side, so Rodimus Prime is my aim. I think he's supposed to be about as tall as Generations Springer? iF so, then it's about right for me.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783553)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 22nd, 2016 @ 2:09pm CDT
We are proud to bring to you today the latest gallery from Seibertron.com: Masterpiece MP-29 Destron Laserwave (Shockwave)! This toy has been highly anticipated by many fans and the color can be highly divisive amongst other fans. Share your thoughts about this high ranking one-eyed "Spock-like" Decepticon villain who has been known as both Megatron's staunchest supporter and as Megatron's greatest rival for Decepticon leadership. Logic dictates that you check out the full gallery which can be found by clicking any of the images below. Check them out and let us know what you think in the comments section. And as always stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your latest Transformers News and Galleries!

Transformers Masterpiece Laserwave

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Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783562)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 2:31pm CDT
Nice photos! What an outstanding figure.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783563)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 22nd, 2016 @ 2:31pm CDT
Man, that figure looks so nice.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783565)
Posted by Deadput on April 22nd, 2016 @ 2:40pm CDT
I wish the purple was darker and his optic more yellow instead of green otherwise he looks great!
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783571)
Posted by galvatron00 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 2:48pm CDT
Nice shots!!

I think I need some of those clear stands..
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783573)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 3:02pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Man, that figure looks so nice.


It is very much underrated. The toy itself is perfect in my opinion. The only thing I didnt like was the price tag. I found it a bit pricey for the parts count, size and simplicity of engineering.

Deadput wrote:I wish the purple was darker and his optic more yellow instead of green otherwise he looks great!


Do you have the figure? I ask because in hand I found his eye to be as yellow as can be.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783575)
Posted by galvatron00 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 3:07pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Man, that figure looks so nice.
It is very much underrated. The toy itself is perfect in my opinion. The only thing I didnt like was the price tag. I found it a bit pricey for the parts count, size and simplicity of engineering.
AND the lack of "licensing"! Why is it the non-licensed characters are more expensive from Japan?!
william-james88 wrote:
Deadput wrote:I wish the purple was darker and his optic more yellow instead of green otherwise he looks great!
Do you have the figure? I ask because in hand I found his eye to be as yellow as can be.
I agree WJ, all kinds of yellow.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783578)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 3:15pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Man, that figure looks so nice.
It is very much underrated. The toy itself is perfect in my opinion. The only thing I didnt like was the price tag. I found it a bit pricey for the parts count, size and simplicity of engineering.
AND the lack of "licensing"! Why is it the non-licensed characters are more expensive from Japan?!


I dont know, that was weird, and good point. The whole licensing thing is odd though, I dont think money is an issue. Because if it was then they wouldnt be able to sell hotwheel cars for so cheap.
The only reason I bought this toy now rather than waiting for Hasbro's is because I feared that Hasbro wouldnt release him due to him being a gun, nomatter how unlike a real gun he is. And I had to pay an extra 40$ on top of it since Canadian customs "caught" him. He turned out to be far more expensive than anticipated (then again, pretty much the same price as an American buying straight from BBTS). But I still cant take points off the toy itself which I find is amazing and has everything I would want in an MP Shockwave.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783581)
Posted by galvatron00 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 3:24pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Man, that figure looks so nice.
It is very much underrated. The toy itself is perfect in my opinion. The only thing I didnt like was the price tag. I found it a bit pricey for the parts count, size and simplicity of engineering.
AND the lack of "licensing"! Why is it the non-licensed characters are more expensive from Japan?!
I dont know, that was weird, and good point. The whole licensing thing is odd though, I dont think money is an issue. Because if it was then they wouldnt be able to sell hotwheel cars for so cheap.
The only reason I bought this toy now rather than waiting for Hasbro's is because I feared that Hasbro wouldnt release him due to him being a gun, nomatter how unlike a real gun he is. And I had to pay an extra 40$ on top of it since Canadian customs "caught" him. He turned out to be far more expensive than anticipated (then again, pretty much the same price as an American buying straight from BBTS). But I still cant take points off the toy itself which I find is amazing and has everything I would want in an MP Shockwave.
Maybe Hot Wheels/Matchbox signed the license fees decades ago and they stuck? :lol:

Maybe it comes down to the electronic gimmick? Then again, if it was that, why are the jets so expensive from Japan but not when Hasbro releases them (no gimmicks)? I just find the cost side of things really confusing, especially when they've made so many variants of the MP03/MP11 mold that is about the same size as Shockwave.

Back on topic, galleries are cool. :APPLAUSE:
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783611)
Posted by Cobotron on April 22nd, 2016 @ 5:21pm CDT
I'm going with, the price is higher due to the electronics.

The gallery does look nice. Seib said the color was hard to photograph, but I think the shots came out nice and crisp. ;)^
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783619)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 5:33pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:I'm going with, the price is higher due to the electronics.


Its a good theory, but then you look at these which also have electronics and were priced at less than half that:

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Transformers (2007) Optimus Prime (Convoy) Gallery

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Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Optimus Prime Gallery

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Transformers Dark of the Moon Ironhide Gallery

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Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Optimus Prime Gallery

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My point is I dont think electronics cost all that much due to its prevalence in kids toy. Sam with die cast.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783622)
Posted by galvatron00 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 5:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm going with, the price is higher due to the electronics.
Its a good theory, but then you look at these which also have electronics and were priced at less than half that:
ALL OF THE THINGS!!
My point is I dont think electronics cost all that much due to its prevalence in kids toy. Sam with die cast.
Word up WJ, we agree again. And the stuff I said about $200 seekers goes with that. :lol:
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783626)
Posted by huryochagi on April 22nd, 2016 @ 6:32pm CDT
Nice gallery and a great-looking figure. I received mine last week. For $150 they should've made him fully die cast metal but at least he looks tv show accurate.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783628)
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 22nd, 2016 @ 6:49pm CDT
You know, the talk about licensing has me wondering. Takara doesn't have the license to the original mold that was used for G1 Shockwave. So how can they make new figures based so closely to that design? Isn't that the same kind of infringement that 3rd party toys commit when they make figures?
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783631)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2016 @ 7:52pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:You know, the talk about licensing has me wondering. Takara doesn't have the license to the original mold that was used for G1 Shockwave. So how can they make new figures based so closely to that design? Isn't that the same kind of infringement that 3rd party toys commit when they make figures?


Great question Riddler. Its been debated before and while the rights are complex the latest theory is that Hasbro and Takara do have the majority of the rights. Its not that they didnt have them but that they were shared, which made it complicated. But the other companies that may have had the rights are no longer around to sue (example, Radioshack).

Also itscram, the seekers are 200$ because we can only get them as the asian exclusive version. If they werent exclusive, BBTS would sell them around the same price as Shockwave (and they could be obtainable for about 110$ in Japan). But of course all these numbers I am throwing out are all a far cry from the 60$ we now know they can be sold at. And you know whats crazy, TRU didnt even boost the price up when they got a restock.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783637)
Posted by AutobotAlvaron on April 22nd, 2016 @ 8:15pm CDT
I'm so glad that a TransFormers Authority like you Seibertron, agrees with me about how much I dislike Takara's blatant overuse of LILAC and LAVENDAR for some of it's most ICONIC Decepticon villains. There are instances where slavish cartoon-acuraccy simply doesn't work in a real-world 3-D representation. Our beloved G1 cartoon-series is infamously inconsistent in it's animation as far as character colors, body-proportions, and scale are concerned. The limited color-palette of 1980's cell-shaded animation should not always be the final deciding factor when designing Masterpiece TransFormers figures. I, for one, have always wanted more homages to the G1 toys and to the real-world vehicles & objects that originally inspired the vintage figures and characters. That is why I would have preferred having more (high-quality) chrome on car-bots and their weapons, more mold details in general, and a deeper, truer PURPLE for MP Shockwave, Re-issue Galvatron, and Henkei Cyclonus.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783662)
Posted by Seibertron on April 22nd, 2016 @ 10:42pm CDT
AutobotAlvaron wrote:I'm so glad that a TransFormers Authority like you Seibertron, agrees with me about how much I dislike Takara's blatant overuse of LILAC and LAVENDAR for some of it's most ICONIC Decepticon villains. There are instances where slavish cartoon-acuraccy simply doesn't work in a real-world 3-D representation. Our beloved G1 cartoon-series is infamously inconsistent in it's animation as far as character colors, body-proportions, and scale are concerned. The limited color-palette of 1980's cell-shaded animation should not always be the final deciding factor when designing Masterpiece TransFormers figures. I, for one, have always wanted more homages to the G1 toys and to the real-world vehicles & objects that originally inspired the vintage figures and characters. That is why I would have preferred having more (high-quality) chrome on car-bots and their weapons, more mold details in general, and a deeper, truer PURPLE for MP Shockwave, Re-issue Galvatron, and Henkei Cyclonus.


Thanks AutobotAlvaron. Just doing my part to help get the word out there. I couldn't have said it better about the purple (though I am anti-chrome as well ... the chrome on Masterpiece Hot Rod is already coming off 6 weeks after owning him and transforming him a few times).

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Apparently, I'm with the minorities on this figure. I was extremely excited about Shockwave when he was first announced last year, after wanting a Masterpiece Shockwave ever since Masterpiece debuted back in late 2003.

Unfortunately, my liking of this figure has done nothing but decrease the more it was revealed all the way up to actually owning it. Here's my rundown of dislikes for "Masterpiece" Shockwave. Normally I try to refrain from posting my opinions when I strongly dislike something, but in this case I've got to level with all of you because I find all of the "wow this toy is amazing" comments from so many of you kind of odd when I find the toy frustrating overall.

  • This is the WRONG color purple. It doesn't match the cartoon and to be honest I'm not sure I'd want any Shockwave toy to "match" the color of his cartoon counterpart. Dark purplish blue, bluish purple. Not lavender or light purple or whatever! This toy's color was the hardest color to photograph that I've ever dealt with in 12.5 years of photographing Transformers toys (well aside from some of the crazy neon orange and pink colors like G2 Starscream). I couldn't match it no matter what camera settings I used, no matter how much I tinkered with the RAW files (adjusting hue, saturation, color temperature, contrast, etc). The toy doesn't match the cartoon, and like AutobotAlvaron said above, cartoon accuracy should be used as a guide but common sense should take over at some point.
  • What the heck is up with his backup? I'm in disbelief that this was the best solution they could come up with. All we did was trade one partsforming piece for another, hardly an improvement on a toy designed by a lesser known company called Toyco back in the 1980s. If you transform the front of the cannon properly, it screws with his silhouette and overall color scheme since he know has a giant light gray piece on his back. It doesn't get any better when you add the backpack cover, because then he just ends up with a massive purple block on his back (which looks better, but not as good as it does on the original).
  • The light grayish purple hands, left arm cannon, and ears ... Takara you're killing me. Not interested in colors like this on my Transformers that should be silver and dark purple!!!!!!
  • The lower legs are a mess. I can't tell you how many few dozens of times his leg panels collapsed or didn't stay together when I would move him into a new position or different angle for the camera. I swear every time I kept grabbing his lower legs (because that's where I usually handle a Transformer so that it doesn't tip over when I rotate them for the photoshoot, which I kept grabbing by mistake because of force of habit). The lower legs are a poor design no matter how you want to argue it ...
  • ... which brings me to his feet. Ok in robot mode, but the fact that you can't even do what the G1 toy does so that he can "stand" in gun mode is absurd and unfortunate. But hey, we ended up with a silly looking purple stand instead. Nice.
  • As for the light piping for his singular eye ... it's a nice feature, but the light piping is too dark or something. While light piping is one of my favorite features on Transformers toys since late G1.5/G2, and while it's something I wish had been on Masterpiece figures from the start, at this point I'd rather they had just painted it properly instead of doing light piping poorly, plus it just kind of looks out of place amongst the other Masterpiece figures.
  • The light up feature was kind of a slap-in-the-face. It was a nice touch, but also a reminder that the sound effects were absent, which is what helped make G1 Shockwave so iconic. I liked how they implemented the light up feature, especially with the brief "stay-on" feature, but the lack of sound was disappointing.
  • The "hose" is also another disappointment. That metal coil will not last. It will become dented or bent, or whatever. We'll just end up with a hose with a different problem from the original. I just can't believe that was the best they could come up with.
  • His size ... Shockwave should have been bigger. And please for the love of god, if someone pulls out that silly G1 size chart, I'll go crazy. Shockwave should be big. Optimus Prime or bigger. Just like his G1 toy was bigger. He should be bigger than Soundwave and Starscream and I wouldn't mind if he was bigger than Megatron (though not the MP-5 Megatron). Ultimately, he just feels like another take on the original G1 toy with the only improvement being posability. So many details are the same, which is probably good, but at the same time it just feels like a rip-off of sorts or a 3rd party G1 Shockwave's original toy is so iconic that to not do it right just seems like an injustice.

A proper G1 colored Shockwave is on the top of my want list. It doesn't resolve the other issues, but fixing his colors would go a long ways toward not making him look like a character that belongs in the My Little Pony universe.

So those are my thoughts. I've unloaded my opinions. Bummed about Shockwave and a few others recently released. Here's hoping we can get back to figures along the "masterpiece" levels of Masterpiece Wheeljack and Prowl soon.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783667)
Posted by Agamemnon on April 22nd, 2016 @ 11:43pm CDT
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783678)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 23rd, 2016 @ 3:04am CDT
Seibertron wrote:
AutobotAlvaron wrote:I'm so glad that a TransFormers Authority like you Seibertron, agrees with me about how much I dislike Takara's blatant overuse of LILAC and LAVENDAR for some of it's most ICONIC Decepticon villains. There are instances where slavish cartoon-acuraccy simply doesn't work in a real-world 3-D representation. Our beloved G1 cartoon-series is infamously inconsistent in it's animation as far as character colors, body-proportions, and scale are concerned. The limited color-palette of 1980's cell-shaded animation should not always be the final deciding factor when designing Masterpiece TransFormers figures. I, for one, have always wanted more homages to the G1 toys and to the real-world vehicles & objects that originally inspired the vintage figures and characters. That is why I would have preferred having more (high-quality) chrome on car-bots and their weapons, more mold details in general, and a deeper, truer PURPLE for MP Shockwave, Re-issue Galvatron, and Henkei Cyclonus.


Thanks AutobotAlvaron. Just doing my part to help get the word out there. I couldn't have said it better about the purple (though I am anti-chrome as well ... the chrome on Masterpiece Hot Rod is already coming off 6 weeks after owning him and transforming him a few times).

Image

Apparently, I'm with the minorities on this figure. I was extremely excited about Shockwave when he was first announced last year, after wanting a Masterpiece Shockwave ever since Masterpiece debuted back in late 2003.

Unfortunately, my liking of this figure has done nothing but decrease the more it was revealed all the way up to actually owning it. Here's my rundown of dislikes for "Masterpiece" Shockwave. Normally I try to refrain from posting my opinions when I strongly dislike something, but in this case I've got to level with all of you because I find all of the "wow this toy is amazing" comments from so many of you kind of odd when I find the toy frustrating overall.

  • This is the WRONG color purple. It doesn't match the cartoon and to be honest I'm not sure I'd want any Shockwave toy to "match" the color of his cartoon counterpart. Dark purplish blue, bluish purple. Not lavender or light purple or whatever! This toy's color was the hardest color to photograph that I've ever dealt with in 12.5 years of photographing Transformers toys (well aside from some of the crazy neon orange and pink colors like G2 Starscream). I couldn't match it no matter what camera settings I used, no matter how much I tinkered with the RAW files (adjusting hue, saturation, color temperature, contrast, etc). The toy doesn't match the cartoon, and like AutobotAlvaron said above, cartoon accuracy should be used as a guide but common sense should take over at some point.
  • What the heck is up with his backup? I'm in disbelief that this was the best solution they could come up with. All we did was trade one partsforming piece for another, hardly an improvement on a toy designed by a lesser known company called Toyco back in the 1980s. If you transform the front of the cannon properly, it screws with his silhouette and overall color scheme since he know has a giant light gray piece on his back. It doesn't get any better when you add the backpack cover, because then he just ends up with a massive purple block on his back (which looks better, but not as good as it does on the original).
  • The light grayish purple hands, left arm cannon, and ears ... Takara you're killing me. Not interested in colors like this on my Transformers that should be silver and dark purple!!!!!!
  • The lower legs are a mess. I can't tell you how many few dozens of times his leg panels collapsed or didn't stay together when I would move him into a new position or different angle for the camera. I swear every time I kept grabbing his lower legs (because that's where I usually handle a Transformer so that it doesn't tip over when I rotate them for the photoshoot, which I kept grabbing by mistake because of force of habit). The lower legs are a poor design no matter how you want to argue it ...
  • ... which brings me to his feet. Ok in robot mode, but the fact that you can't even do what the G1 toy does so that he can "stand" in gun mode is absurd and unfortunate. But hey, we ended up with a silly looking purple stand instead. Nice.
  • As for the light piping for his singular eye ... it's a nice feature, but the light piping is too dark or something. While light piping is one of my favorite features on Transformers toys since late G1.5/G2, and while it's something I wish had been on Masterpiece figures from the start, at this point I'd rather they had just painted it properly instead of doing light piping poorly, plus it just kind of looks out of place amongst the other Masterpiece figures.
  • The light up feature was kind of a slap-in-the-face. It was a nice touch, but also a reminder that the sound effects were absent, which is what helped make G1 Shockwave so iconic. I liked how they implemented the light up feature, especially with the brief "stay-on" feature, but the lack of sound was disappointing.
  • The "hose" is also another disappointment. That metal coil will not last. It will become dented or bent, or whatever. We'll just end up with a hose with a different problem from the original. I just can't believe that was the best they could come up with.
  • His size ... Shockwave should have been bigger. And please for the love of god, if someone pulls out that silly G1 size chart, I'll go crazy. Shockwave should be big. Optimus Prime or bigger. Just like his G1 toy was bigger. He should be bigger than Soundwave and Starscream and I wouldn't mind if he was bigger than Megatron (though not the MP-5 Megatron). Ultimately, he just feels like another take on the original G1 toy with the only improvement being posability. So many details are the same, which is probably good, but at the same time it just feels like a rip-off of sorts or a 3rd party G1 Shockwave's original toy is so iconic that to not do it right just seems like an injustice.

A proper G1 colored Shockwave is on the top of my want list. It doesn't resolve the other issues, but fixing his colors would go a long ways toward not making him look like a character that belongs in the My Little Pony universe.

So those are my thoughts. I've unloaded my opinions. Bummed about Shockwave and a few others recently released. Here's hoping we can get back to figures along the "masterpiece" levels of Masterpiece Wheeljack and Prowl soon.


I thought I was alone on the leg issues! I have to be honest, I don't really feel like he was worth the BBTS price tag. He's nice and all, but the legs are my biggest problem - they really don't hold together well. I got the Takara Quillfire in my Pile of Loot on the same day and thought he was a way better value for his price. I don't know, maybe I'm just comparing him to my high standard of MP Soundwave, G2 Bee and Prime, but a darker purple and some better support in the legs would have made a huge difference. He still would have felt a bit too expensive, but it would have helped.
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783683)
Posted by frogbat on April 23rd, 2016 @ 4:06am CDT
I agree that this figure is truly awesome but equally frustrating in many regards. I feel like it's nowhere close to deserving a masterpiece tag unlike Ultra Magnus, wheeljack et al. Looks great in the line up and yeah could be bigger buti think the size was due to then proportions. The price was ridiculous too. I haven't tried the light up features but come on, you add lights to this and don't add a light for his eye? missed opportunity in my book.

Other huge probs are the hollow part in the back of the gun mode. This i find glaring considering the original toy didn't have that apparently. Also - screws and screw holes all over the place. I'd be more accepting from say generations figure but blargh.

Also, yeah hot rod's chrome was fading off the same day i got him though I find him a vastly more fun figure...

They're all great toys at the end and worth having but i think shockwave's price left a bit of a sting...
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783689)
Posted by Cyberpath on April 23rd, 2016 @ 5:36am CDT
Seibertron wrote:This is the WRONG color purple. It doesn't match the cartoon and to be honest I'm not sure I'd want any Shockwave toy to "match" the color of his cartoon counterpart.
It matches one his purples. He was painted various shades throughout the show. I wouldn't have minded a deeper colour either. Ironically, the screen caps in the instruction sheets are a different purple than the MP.

Seibertron wrote:The lower legs are a mess. I can't tell you how many few dozens of times his leg panels collapsed or didn't stay together when I would move him into a new position or different angle for the camera.
Strange, mine doesn't do that, at all. I hope it won't be an issue with the replacement figure. Are you sure you tabbed everything?

I agree that it would have been cool if he could stand in gun mode! I should find a better looking stand for him.


Seibertron wrote:As for the light piping for his singular eye ... it's a nice feature, but the light piping is too dark or something. While light piping is one of my favorite features on Transformers toys since late G1.5/G2, and while it's something I wish had been on Masterpiece figures from the start, at this point I'd rather they had just painted it properly instead of doing light piping poorly, plus it just kind of looks out of place amongst the other Masterpiece figures.

This surprises me, because I think he's got the best light-piping I've ever seen. It doesn't take much, just standing on my desk.

For the MP line I think he should be the only one to have this feature because he didn't have a face, just a flickering light-bulb. So that's a nice homage.

I'm actually glad that he doesn't have sound-effects.

His height feels right to me, in the series he was the same height as Starscream and a bit shorter than Soundwave. But to each their own!
Re: New Gallery: Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide (1783702)
Posted by Cobotron on April 23rd, 2016 @ 8:06am CDT
I didn't/don't have the G1 toy. What sounds did he make?
The same stock laser gun sounds that all 80's laser gun toys made, (especially the ones from Radio Shack)?
If they are the ones I'm thinking of, they were awesome, and drove Mom and Dad crazy. Would have been hilarious if this Shockwave made those ridiculous 8 bit sounds. :lol:

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