New Images of Platinum Optimus Prime vs Megatron Set With 1986 Movie Theme Confirmed
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The cover is a re-enactment of the final battle between Optimus and Megatron in the 1986 Transformers film and the special stamp on the cover marks this as part of the commemoration of that film. This posits that both the Megatron and Optimus toys are supposed to reference this scene and those G1 decos, at least for their robot modes.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 31st, 2016 @ 11:46am CST
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Posted by Amelie on January 31st, 2016 @ 12:44pm CST
Agamemnon wrote:I wonder if they would pull something out of left field...
If they do this instead of a G1 twin pack I will personally go to Hasbro HQ and insert figures into various orifices.
Posted by shajaki on January 31st, 2016 @ 12:45pm CST
Where'd this news come from?Amelie wrote:Ok. I am ready to see the proposed Rodimus and Galvatron two pack now - I have soothing music, a meal, candlelit table and open wine ready it.
Posted by Amelie on January 31st, 2016 @ 12:46pm CST
shajaki wrote:Where'd this news come from?Amelie wrote:Ok. I am ready to see the proposed Rodimus and Galvatron two pack now - I have soothing music, a meal, candlelit table and open wine ready it.
Way back in the thread.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 31st, 2016 @ 12:49pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:boxart models don't match the designs of the toys.
Do they ever?
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:17pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Lastmaximal on Allspark, who brought us the very first image of the 2016 Platinum Optimus vs Megatron set, finally also took pictures of both the cover of the box and the toys inside. He/she also precises that the toy was selling in the specialty store for about US $100, which is the estimated price point.
The cover is a re-enactment of the final battle between Optimus and Megatron in the 1986 Transformers film and the special stamp on the cover marks this as part of the commemoration of that film. This posits that both the Megatron and Optimus toys are supposed to reference this scene and those G1 decos, at least for their robot modes.
aw tell me it's not something like that bloody Nerf Gun type Megatron?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:21pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:21pm CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:37pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.
happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.
& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way
but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:44pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.
happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.
& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way
but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).
G1 Megatron is legally considered a fire arm replica and thus can't be released as is. In fact, Hasbro toyed with the thought of reissuing, for the US market, in purple and orange back in the day. Guess what: didn't fly.
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:47pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.
happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.
& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way
but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).
to be fair, this is about the robot modes, and this megatron honours the G1 deco in robot mode more than the original version of the mold did.
Posted by 1984forever on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:49pm CST
Prime is levitating in the box to give the impression that he is the same size as Megatron, who is smushed down in the box and standing spread legged. All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.
A Prime closer to his G1 self and a grey tank Megatron both in G1size would have been perfect
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:53pm CST
1984forever wrote: All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.
Pretty sure kids wouldnt be buying this.
Plus, if you want some G1 themed fun, you can just get last year's tank megatron and pair him with the upcoming gen PMOP
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 31st, 2016 @ 1:58pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.
happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.
& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way
but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).
G1 Megatron is legally considered a fire arm replica and thus can't be released as is. In fact, Hasbro toyed with the thought of reissuing, for the US market, in purple and orange back in the day. Guess what: didn't fly.
ah right...well....it would've been nice to have had a G1 Megs....which btw is weird? coz the small Megs from the Classics line(forms a pistol with an orange tip) i think you can still get online or somewhere? same with MP G1's & maybe any 3rd party ones too!
+ correct me if i'm wrong....isn't the Nerfatron all plastic? no metal? which is strange coz most(maybe not all.....like Trypticon) of these Platinum Edition figures have some metal on them! Blaster has metal pins/joints in his arms, his cassettes have metal parts on them, Perceptor has some metal on him, the Insecticons have metal on them too.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 31st, 2016 @ 2:01pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Plus, if you want some G1 themed fun, you can just get last year's tank megatron and pair him with the upcoming gen PMOP
This. Never thought about it, but it gives us Leader-class battles for the faction commanders! Good job Will!
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2016 @ 2:08pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:
+ correct me if i'm wrong....isn't the Nerfatron all plastic? no metal? which is strange coz most(maybe not all.....like Trypticon) of these Platinum Edition figures have some metal on them! Blaster has metal pins/joints in his arms, his cassettes have metal parts on them, Perceptor has some metal on him, the Insecticons have metal on them too.
Its not related, platinum is not about them containing metal. Its just reissues. If the original toys had metal then the reissued toys will also have metal. If a toy only had plastic, the platinum reissue will also only have plastic. Thats all.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 31st, 2016 @ 2:10pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:+ correct me if i'm wrong....isn't the Nerfatron all plastic? no metal? which is strange coz most(maybe not all.....like Trypticon) of these Platinum Edition figures have some metal on them! Blaster has metal pins/joints in his arms, his cassettes have metal parts on them, Perceptor has some metal on him, the Insecticons have metal on them too.
That's because they're original G1 toys from 1984-1985, which by nature have die cast metal as part of their original construction. Anything beyond 1986 is all plastic.
Posted by Deadput on January 31st, 2016 @ 2:10pm CST
1984forever wrote:So much fail in this set!
Prime is levitating in the box to give the impression that he is the same size as Megatron, who is smushed down in the box and standing spread legged. All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.
A Prime closer to his G1 self and a grey tank Megatron both in G1size would have been perfect
Dude what the heck does that even mean?
It's box art man it's not supposed to be accurate it's supposed to look cool like you know every other box art every other toy in the world does I mean look at this bionicle for example does he look like you can actually have him surf on lava or is it something to look cool?
And what the heck is G1 size So now G1 is also defined on what size they are you serious?
This Megatron is closer to the original gun Megatron then a tank is but your saying that in order to be as close to the G1 gun Megatron as we can we should use the tank Megatron instead of another gun Megatron genius I say!
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 31st, 2016 @ 2:26pm CST
Easy pass for me. Still got original classics Prime for sentimental reasons and if I want G1 Prime vs G1 Megatron I'll get the recent Leader Megatron and the upcoming Leader Powermaster Prime. Bit big for my collection but far superior. Besides I always hated Megatron as a gun (especially modelled after one that shoots foam darts) and prefer him as a tank. It just makes more sense.
Posted by YoungPrime on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:12pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:20pm CST
That's an interesting question. One would assume so considering Hasbro keeps setting the same MSRP, but then again it seems like these sets hit clearance or other sales fairly frequently. I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.YoungPrime wrote:Q:Are the masses actually paying those ridiculous prices for these Platinum sets?
Posted by Deadput on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:21pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:Q:Are the masses actually paying those ridiculous prices for these Platinum sets?
I certainly would if I had the money
Posted by Amelie on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:23pm CST
carytheone wrote:I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.
I'd say that since Hasbro get paid by the toy shop, rather than the customer that shops are ordering enough sets every year for Hasbro to consider them a success.
The stores must be earning enough profit to keep ordering them, despite the clearance prices. Maybe the inflated initial price is just there to earn a quick buck and the reduced price still earns a profit?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:29pm CST
Amelie wrote:carytheone wrote:I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.
I'd say that since Hasbro get paid by the toy shop, rather than the customer that shops are ordering enough sets every year for Hasbro to consider them a success.
The stores must be earning enough profit to keep ordering them, despite the clearance prices. Maybe the inflated initial price is just there to earn a quick buck and the reduced price still earns a profit?
There.
It's easy to say 50% OFF when the original price was double the more normal price from the start. So, when you buy a Platinum set on "clearance", you are actually paying the regular price.
No way 70$CAN for the insecticons, 100$CAN for butterscotch Optimus, and 150$CAN for MP Butterscotch Soundwave are real and honest clearace prices.
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:31pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:Q:Are the masses actually paying those ridiculous prices for these Platinum sets?
Good question, so I did some digging and the answer is yes... but in due time.
Every platinum edition goes out of stock within 2 years time it seems. Sometimes they are ridiculously priced, sometimes they arent and its not always the reasonable ones that go out of stock. Platinum predaking is more than reasonably priced at 100$ but is still available while the Farmageddon set is a crappy deal at 100$ but it sold out.
Here is what sold out at different places:
Platinum Blaster and Perceptor sold out at Target at 100$
The Coneheads sold out at BBTS at 85$
Year of the Snake Omega Supreme and Optimus sold out at BBTS at 170$
Platinum United Autobot 5 pack sold out at TFSource at 160$ (the platinum dinobots are way cheaper than that and you get just as much toy)
There are only 6 Platinum Triplechanger sets at Amazon.ca selling for $75 cdn
All Platinums have sold out at Toysrus.ca
So yes, these sell.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:35pm CST
william-james88 wrote:YoungPrime wrote:(...)
All Platinums have sold out at Toysrus.ca
So yes, these sell.
They don't in stores. At my local TrU, all platinum sets are still there, like a locust swarm, on "clearance". Those shelves are not cooling down.
Posted by YoungPrime on January 31st, 2016 @ 4:37pm CST
Amelie wrote:carytheone wrote:I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.
I'd say that since Hasbro get paid by the toy shop, rather than the customer that shops are ordering enough sets every year for Hasbro to consider them a success.
The stores must be earning enough profit to keep ordering them, despite the clearance prices. Maybe the inflated initial price is just there to earn a quick buck and the reduced price still earns a profit?
Yeah, given the regular cost for Voyager Class I could see them on clearance for 40%-50% off and they could still turn a profit depending on what they paid Hasbro for them and how many they sold when they hit stores at the higher rate.
For anyone with more sense than dollars it's just a matter of playing the waiting game or in my case getting lucky on ebay or toy fair/convention since All I'm interested in is that OP figure.
Posted by Amelie on January 31st, 2016 @ 5:43pm CST
What if the Platinum sets were actually part of the licensing deal for whichever store carried them as "must order" products in order to get other items? After all - they're all molds that Hasbro have often used to death already, so the profit margin on Hasbro's part must be huge, since the tooling itself was paid for a long time ago.
I say this because I know that other companies like Gamesworkshop or even magazine suppliers have 'must order' and 'minimum quantity' stipulations.
Posted by 1984forever on January 31st, 2016 @ 5:49pm CST
obviously we can't get a decent gun Megatron because the cops are mistaking everything for a firearm. A few years ago cops in Times Square mistook a yellow metro card for a gun and fired a fusillade of bullets toward the man. They missed him completely, but managed to buck down an old granny in a walker. So let's just give the fruity colored Megatrons a rest and move on with him as a Tank.Deadput wrote:1984forever wrote:So much fail in this set!
Prime is levitating in the box to give the impression that he is the same size as Megatron, who is smushed down in the box and standing spread legged. All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.
A Prime closer to his G1 self and a grey tank Megatron both in G1size would have been perfect
Dude what the heck does that even mean?
It's box art man it's not supposed to be accurate it's supposed to look cool like you know every other box art every other toy in the world does I mean look at this bionicle for example does he look like you can actually have him surf on lava or is it something to look cool?
And what the heck is G1 size So now G1 is also defined on what size they are you serious?
This Megatron is closer to the original gun Megatron then a tank is but your saying that in order to be as close to the G1 gun Megatron as we can we should use the tank Megatron instead of another gun Megatron genius I say!
G1 size means the size they stood as the original G1 toys.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:00pm CST
Amelie wrote:Bonus thought -
What if the Platinum sets were actually part of the licensing deal for whichever store carried them as "must order" products in order to get other items? After all - they're all molds that Hasbro have often used to death already, so the profit margin on Hasbro's part must be huge, since the tooling itself was paid for a long time ago.
I say this because I know that other companies like Gamesworkshop or even magazine suppliers have 'must order' and 'minimum quantity' stipulations.
I'd wager more towards "Minimum Quantity". It goes a long way to explaining the gluts in the past, especially with Walmart and the Universe 2003 line.
Posted by Amelie on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:01pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:05pm CST
Amelie wrote:G1 size? So you want Optimus Prime to be a deluxe and Devastator to be as tall as a large Voyager?
"G1 size" mean nothing because the size of the toys were all over the place back then.
Posted by Amelie on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:10pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Amelie wrote:G1 size? So you want Optimus Prime to be a deluxe and Devastator to be as tall as a large Voyager?
"G1 size" mean nothing because the size of the toys were all over the place back then.
Exactly my point
Was in reply to 1984Forever
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:12pm CST
Amelie wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Amelie wrote:G1 size? So you want Optimus Prime to be a deluxe and Devastator to be as tall as a large Voyager?
"G1 size" mean nothing because the size of the toys were all over the place back then.
Exactly my point
Was in reply to 1984Forever
Oh, I know. I was just following the daisy chain.
Posted by Mindmaster on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:27pm CST
• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:35pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:Just like I did with the Titans Return thread, here is what was shown off at Nuremburg Toy Fair this year. The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded):• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold
Oh? Might be something worth watching for.
Posted by Amelie on January 31st, 2016 @ 6:48pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold
*gets my passport* - SOMEONE IS GOING TO FEEL SOME PAIN
So an utterly crud Rodimus thats going to tower over arguably one of the worst classics figures ever?
What are they putting in the water at Hasbro HQ? LSD?
Posted by fenrir72 on January 31st, 2016 @ 7:03pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:boxart models don't match the designs of the toys.
This. If Hb wanted a home run, they'd re-issue iPod G1 Prime with proper smokestacks and G1 Megatron (sure, without the firing mechanism of Encore) and sell it to the 18 year up crowd 'cause $100.00 a set is nooooooooooooo kiddie target but an Adult collectible. Heck, maybe get a Fed exemption or tag you know what I mean? Just like buying cigars.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 31st, 2016 @ 7:09pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 31st, 2016 @ 7:29pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:nah if it were LSD.....they would be coming out with better stuff! not worse!
Actually if it was lsd we would of had megatron as a Venus flytrap and optimus prime as a lawnmower (okay I stole the prime idea from an old penny arcade comic but hasbro on acid would do that)
As for the reveals, I'm skeptical about the sweep set as I can't see them using a botcon tooling and the rodimus set...I think I'll pass after hearing about the titanium line
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 31st, 2016 @ 8:27pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:here is what was shown off at Nuremburg Toy Fair this year. The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold
What do you think of these new developments? Sound off below on your thoughts on these potential new sets.
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2016 @ 8:36pm CST
Amelie wrote:Mindmaster wrote:The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold
*gets my passport* - SOMEONE IS GOING TO FEEL SOME PAIN
So an utterly crud Rodimus thats going to tower over arguably one of the worst classics figures ever?
What are they putting in the water at Hasbro HQ? LSD?
I am so deeply sadenned by this news. Hasbro now knows that the G1 reissues work. Most sold out in less that a year of being on the market. They said they would keep it going. This is just demoralizing. I can get any of these basic molds on e-bay if I wanted to (which I dont, I have all the ones I need, not paying jack shit for a titanium rodimus). Oh man this is just sad.
Come on Hasbro you could have reissued G1 Galvatron in toon accurate colours for the film's anniversary!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all this garbage I shudder to think of how they would have handled a Beast Wars anniversary.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 31st, 2016 @ 9:07pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Amelie wrote:Mindmaster wrote:The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold
*gets my passport* - SOMEONE IS GOING TO FEEL SOME PAIN
So an utterly crud Rodimus thats going to tower over arguably one of the worst classics figures ever?
What are they putting in the water at Hasbro HQ? LSD?
I am so deeply sadenned by this news. Hasbro now knows that the G1 reissues work. Most sold out in less that a year of being on the market. They said they would keep it going. This is just demoralizing. I can get any of these basic molds on e-bay if I wanted to (which I dont, I have all the ones I need, not paying jack SHIZZLESNIT for a titanium rodimus). Oh man this is just sad.
Come on Hasbro you could have reissued G1 Galvatron in toon accurate colours for the film's anniversary!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all this garbage I shudder to think of how they would have handled a Beast Wars anniversary.
I would sooner buy this than G1 re-issues; besides we know how they'd handle the BW Anniversary when presented with the opportunity:
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2016 @ 9:13pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:I would sooner buy this than G1 re-issues
So let me get this straight, you would rather have Titanium Rodimus over G1 Hot Rod and Universe Galvatron over a purple G1 Galvatron?
Posted by Mindmaster on January 31st, 2016 @ 9:14pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:...besides we know how they'd handle the BW Anniversary when presented with the opportunity:THEY AREN'T
SAVAGE
In all seriousness though, with the way they're "celebrating" the thirtieth anniversary of the original movie (sans the Planet of Junk Clash... I might actually need that), I don't even know if I want Hasbro to even attempt a Beast Wars anniversary...