New pics of Generations Whirl with arms correctly transformed plus pics with legs reversed
Monday, January 27th, 2014 6:10PM CST
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spark crusher wrote:hes mistransformed here! i found that you can collapse his arms into his shoulders tightening the joints and fixing his proportions. spread the word!
Thanks to spark crusher pointing out that Generation Voyager Class Whirl's arms are mis-transformed due to incomplete instructions, the gallery for Generations Voyager Class Whirl has been updated to include a few new pictures with the shoulders properly transformed. The step that the instructions leaves out is that the shoulder ball joint should be pushed in toward Whirl's head. This tightens up the upper arms tremendously and makes the toy look even better. In addition, the double jointed nature of Whirl's knees was not fully taken advantage of in many of the original photos in this gallery so you can now get a better sense of how his legs should be posed. Due to a request from Dead Metal, a few pictures were also added with Whirl's legs reversed so that he has more traditional looking knees. Enjoy!
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 27th, 2014 @ 6:15pm CST
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on January 27th, 2014 @ 6:41pm CST
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 27th, 2014 @ 7:02pm CST
Posted by durroth on January 27th, 2014 @ 7:34pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 27th, 2014 @ 8:18pm CST
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 27th, 2014 @ 8:23pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on January 27th, 2014 @ 9:15pm CST
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 27th, 2014 @ 9:22pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:Even if he's got teeny little feet, I prefer the backwards configuration of his legs over the IDW way. Nothing against the IDW character (he's completely awesome, several laughs were had when I read the comic that came with Trailbreaker), but the chicken legs don't look right on the original Generation One body.
I def don't mind the tiny feet either. It's great that we have the option.
Posted by durroth on January 28th, 2014 @ 3:35am CST
Seibertron wrote: I do think that the upper legs are misassembled. Hasbro and Takara are usually really good about making sure the front and sides of the robot modes don't show hollow plastic. The way the legs are show hollow spots on the sides of the upper legs but the upper legs look much better when turned around 180 degrees. Just the knees are awkward as are the feet when you do this.
What it's looking like to me is they had to compromise for the inverted legs and chose to sacrifice the upper legs of the robot mode for looking better in vehicle mode. Any other side would have been the top/side of the upper leg piece in vehicle mode or the front in robot mode, so they chose to ignore it being on the outside in robot mode rather than redesign the thigh... which would have probably necessitated a game of "Which side do we put the screws on" ... actually I think the whole thing could have been solved if they designed the waist/hips piece to be rotatable 180 degrees in its slider (basically ending up with it "upside down" in one configuration. Really you can't see it in robot mode anyway, but it would reverse which side of the thigh is "outward" in robot mode and all we'd lose is the landing skiff c-clip points being on the outside... If I'm picturing this right in my head)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on January 28th, 2014 @ 6:21am CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on January 28th, 2014 @ 8:21am CST
Posted by Dead Metal on January 28th, 2014 @ 8:28am CST
The chicken legs are deffo just there for the Gerwalk mode.
Posted by durroth on January 28th, 2014 @ 2:21pm CST
Posted by Stormrider on January 28th, 2014 @ 4:28pm CST
Posted by AnnaChristine on January 28th, 2014 @ 5:09pm CST
Stormrider wrote:It seems like Whirls thighs were misassembled. The outside of the thigh ought to be the inside.
I would be more inclined to believe it was designed with the G1 "ski" legs in mind with originally and the chicken-legs a legacy of the Gerwalk mode. We already know the shoulder transformation instructions were wrong, so why not the legs too? The thighs look fine with the G1 legs.
Posted by Autobot032 on January 28th, 2014 @ 5:44pm CST
This set of galleries showcases the newly released Generations Starscream (based on Armada Starscream), Scoop (based on Targetmaster Scoop), Skywarp (redeco of the FOC Starscream mold) and last, but not least... The Mini-Con Assault Team!
To see any of the galleries in full, click on any of the pictures below to be taken to that figure's gallery. To see all of our galleries, click the link at the bottom and take some time to go through them all, it's quite extensive. We hope you enjoy!
Generations Centuritron
Generations Runway
Generations Heavytread
Generations Windshear
Generations Armada Starscream
Generations Skywarp
Generations Scoop
Generations Holepunch
Generations Caliburst
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2014 @ 5:52pm CST
Posted by Va'al on January 28th, 2014 @ 6:00pm CST
(By a broad definition of 'notable'.)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 28th, 2014 @ 6:06pm CST
Posted by Shadowstream on January 28th, 2014 @ 7:05pm CST
Posted by megatronus on January 28th, 2014 @ 9:14pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on January 28th, 2014 @ 9:40pm CST
That doesn't look right. Shouldn't tail rotors all be equidistant from each other, a perfect X? Looks like it's missing two blades or something.
Posted by mooncake623 on January 28th, 2014 @ 11:48pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on January 28th, 2014 @ 11:50pm CST
durroth wrote:Seibertron wrote: I do think that the upper legs are misassembled. Hasbro and Takara are usually really good about making sure the front and sides of the robot modes don't show hollow plastic. The way the legs are show hollow spots on the sides of the upper legs but the upper legs look much better when turned around 180 degrees. Just the knees are awkward as are the feet when you do this.
What it's looking like to me is they had to compromise for the inverted legs and chose to sacrifice the upper legs of the robot mode for looking better in vehicle mode. Any other side would have been the top/side of the upper leg piece in vehicle mode or the front in robot mode, so they chose to ignore it being on the outside in robot mode rather than redesign the thigh... which would have probably necessitated a game of "Which side do we put the screws on" ... actually I think the whole thing could have been solved if they designed the waist/hips piece to be rotatable 180 degrees in its slider (basically ending up with it "upside down" in one configuration. Really you can't see it in robot mode anyway, but it would reverse which side of the thigh is "outward" in robot mode and all we'd lose is the landing skiff c-clip points being on the outside... If I'm picturing this right in my head)
Solvew the issue once and for all: Waist flaps like Energon Bulkhead had... Its the only strike I have angainst Whirl, the sides of an otherwise amazing NOT Apache helicopter cockpit look like mechanical thighs. Somethi ng that could've folded over or around them, even something like how PRID Magnus' wheel assembly worked around his calf would've made a HUGE difference for me and could've covered or allowed for relocating the screw holes.
durroth wrote:I kinda wish takara/hasbro would consider springing the little extra for dry transfer (rub on) decals. Or some chinese 3rd party would start making water sliders. at least for this whirl where the stickers would all look better as decals to begin with.
No... just no. I've used and printed Wet Transfer/Waterslide for model trains, and it won't work for TFs. the intended market is A) too young and/or too rough on them for the decals to work B)not gonna buy or have the sealcoat needed to protect the decals and C) not gonna have the patience or interest in masking their TFs to apply the decal sealer. And you HAVE to apply the sealer, water wo;t magically not activate the decals just because they're on Whirl and not the paper. "Optional" detail arguments won't work either, just ask the Arms Micron guys how much they love their naked figures.
Dry Transfers would be infintately better than wet, but they still takr more patince than aa 10 yea old is gonna spend on a toy, and even the 4H kids and young modellers who do kits and RC and Pinewood and whatever else won't do this to a toy like Whirl. And yes, kids will be buying Whirl, even if he is an homage to 80s fans, if he were a collector piece Wal-Mart wouldn't be carrying him!
Not everyone is a Customizer, nor should they be. Heck, I paint my own trains, I even have a Beast Hunters Hun Grr in a drying rack halfway to looking like Doublecross, (The lower half, if you were curious, I;m still working on his necks) and I wouldn't bother decalling Whirl if they weren't stickers.
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 29th, 2014 @ 7:24am CST
mooncake623 wrote:Anyone troop building these minicons? I think I kind of am =X hopefully they'll be enough connections points on them where I can just clip everything into a huge massive ball.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2014 @ 9:05am CST
That's a neat idea. With that many you'd have your small army of Ammonites.mooncake623 wrote:Anyone troop building these minicons? I think I kind of am =X hopefully they'll be enough connections points on them where I can just clip everything into a huge massive ball.
Posted by GuyIncognito on January 29th, 2014 @ 9:24am CST
Posted by wilcosu35 on January 29th, 2014 @ 10:24am CST
Noideaforaname wrote:Looking forward to the Mini-Cons the most. Love small combiners, and they'll make great rivals to Abominus!
That doesn't look right. Shouldn't tail rotors all be equidistant from each other, a perfect X? Looks like it's missing two blades or something.
The AH-64 Apache would like to object to your opinion
Posted by Seibertron on January 29th, 2014 @ 1:38pm CST
mooncake623 wrote:Anyone troop building these minicons? I think I kind of am =X hopefully they'll be enough connections points on them where I can just clip everything into a huge massive ball.
I thought about doing this ... I wouldn't mind having 2 more sets. That seems to be my happy troop builder number. 3 Sweeps. 3 Sharticons. 3 of each Vehicon mold/version. Basically ... a leader and two troops.
Posted by Seibertron on January 29th, 2014 @ 1:43pm CST
GuyIncognito wrote:Hasbro should be sending product samples to Ryan before their release for him to photograph. His photos make the figures seem so much more appealing than the standard stock photos. There have been so many figures that I hadn't planned on buying until I saw the Seibertron gallery.
Thanks for the compliment, GuyIncognito. It's nice to hear things like this.
I wish Hasbro would do this also! Mattel does it for some of their products. Licensed companies such as Shout! and Kids Logic have sent me early samples for review purposes. The catch with Hasbro is that they seem to treat all of the fansites the same, regardless of their popularity (i.e. if they do it for one site, they do it for all ... no favorites, which I'm assuming came out of the whole Orson's World ordeal 10 years ago). Great for the little guy, but not so great for the big sites like Seibertron.com.
If Hasbro's reading this ... I'd love to get early samples so that I can photograph them to help with promoting upcoming products!
Posted by GuyIncognito on January 29th, 2014 @ 1:49pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on January 29th, 2014 @ 1:54pm CST
GuyIncognito wrote:Well they're missing out on a great way to get their products promoted for free! You'd get more traffic for your site, and Hasbro would get free advertising. It would be a win-win situation.
That would be awesome! I'd love to be able to bring this content to you guys sooner than when it first hits retail.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 30th, 2014 @ 10:53pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on January 31st, 2014 @ 12:02am CST
MINDVVIPE wrote:Nice galleries. They have reconfirmed my disinterest in the minicons, but are making me get my hopes up for a cool Jhiaxus. Thats not a bad Starscream mold from what I see. Anyone able to tell me if the shoulder intakes/canons can be positioned in a halfway point? I think that would be ideal for the Jhiaxus version. The jet mode seems to have the intakes at an angle that doesn't go with the rest of the jet... Why is that?
Yes they can be posed halfway as shown in this picture
Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 31st, 2014 @ 1:38am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 1st, 2014 @ 3:47pm CST
Posted by AnnaChristine on February 1st, 2014 @ 3:50pm CST
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on February 1st, 2014 @ 7:53pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on February 4th, 2014 @ 7:19pm CST
That's scary. This new softer plastic Hasbro is using is very problematic. I've broken four deluxe class Transformers Generations figures so far ...
#1 - Bumblebee ... a tab broke off first time I transformed him.
#2 - Orion Pax (Takara) ... one of the wheels snapped off first time I transformed him.
#3 - Megatron ... severe stress marks on sides of black plastic where his head pops through because his head was mis-positioned when transforming his chest area and pushing his head through the hole.
#4 - Skids ... ball joint for upper left leg snapped right off his crotch when I tried popping off the leg to swap the upper leg parts that are misassembled from the factory.
That's four out of 14 deluxe class Generations figures that I've had problems with. Very distressing (pun intended)!!!
Posted by Mindmaster on February 4th, 2014 @ 7:40pm CST
Generations Bumblebee Goldbug
Posted by Sabrblade on February 4th, 2014 @ 8:33pm CST
Posted by Shadowstream on February 4th, 2014 @ 10:13pm CST
Posted by megatronus on February 4th, 2014 @ 10:15pm CST
I adore Hasbro's Goldfire.
Takara's Bumblebee Goldbug falls somewhere in the middle.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 5th, 2014 @ 8:46am CST
Seibertron wrote:
That's scary. This new softer plastic Hasbro is using is very problematic. I've broken four deluxe class Transformers Generations figures so far ...
#1 - Bumblebee ... a tab broke off first time I transformed him.
#2 - Orion Pax (Takara) ... one of the wheels snapped off first time I transformed him.
#3 - Megatron ... severe stress marks on sides of black plastic where his head pops through because his head was mis-positioned when transforming his chest area and pushing his head through the hole.
#4 - Skids ... ball joint for upper left leg snapped right off his crotch when I tried popping off the leg to swap the upper leg parts that are misassembled from the factory.
That's four out of 14 deluxe class Generations figures that I've had problems with. Very distressing (pun intended)!!!
YIKES! Surely not the type of figures you'd want kids to play with, or people who don't know their own strength (no offense).
Posted by Va'al on February 5th, 2014 @ 10:54am CST
Generations Megatronus
Generations Orion Pax
Posted by mooncake623 on February 5th, 2014 @ 11:00am CST
Seibertron wrote:
#4 - Skids ... ball joint for upper left leg snapped right off his crotch when I tried popping off the leg to swap the upper leg parts that are misassembled from the factory.
That's four out of 14 deluxe class Generations figures that I've had problems with. Very distressing (pun intended)!!!
Wow the exact same thing happened to me on the same leg on the same ball joint when I was trying to fix the misassembly issue.... was a bitch to find another one. ended up paying 20 bucks for him at a comic book shop.
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on February 5th, 2014 @ 11:23am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 5th, 2014 @ 6:50pm CST
He who?welcometothedarksyde wrote:He looks way better than the already cool American version
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on February 6th, 2014 @ 11:38pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:He who?welcometothedarksyde wrote:He looks way better than the already cool American version
Megatron, probably should have specified
Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2014 @ 4:55am CST
Generations Rhinox
Generations Doubledealer