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New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert

Transformers News: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert

Tuesday, June 12th, 2012 8:02AM CDT

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Site sponsor Robotkingdom has shared some new information regarding Takara's upcoming Transformers Masterpiece figures. They are reporting that MP-13 Soundwave will include his cassetticon minion Laserbeak, and they have increased their price form 12000 to 15800 Yen. They are also reporting that MP-14 will be Red Alert, previously known as MP-12A. We will find out just how accurate this information is this weekend when Takara presents at the 2012 International Tokyo Toy Show.

We have received some shocking informations about the upcoming Takara Masterpiece series!!
Some informations were changed and here is a quick update.

MP-12 Lambor
5800yen
Release in end of October 2012.
Lamborghini LP500S licensed!!!

MP-13 Soundwave
12000yen --->15800yen
Release in December 2012
Soundwave will include one Cassette - laserbeak!

MP-12A ---> MP-14 Red Alert!
5800yen
Release in December 2012
Lamborghini LP500S licensed!!!

Hope the above informations are helpful to you.
All informations will be subject to Tokyo Toy Show confirmation.
For customers who have purchased these items, Any refunds/ additional price will be updated after we have confirmed information from Tokyo Toy Show (18th June).
For any enquiry, please email to info@robotkingdom.com

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Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389098)
Posted by RhA on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:12am CDT
SURPRISE!
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389099)
Posted by Trikeboy on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:12am CDT
WOOHOO!!!! Masterpiece Laserbeak and MP14 Red Alert will be in December too, not next year like reported.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389100)
Posted by Deruji on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:14am CDT
If it's true that MP13 only has one tape, that would be disappointing. And it will be even more disappointing if MP14 are not the other tapes.
That makes waiting for a perfect Soundwave collection harder than it should be :(
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389104)
Posted by Trikeboy on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:16am CDT
Deruji wrote:If it's true that MP13 only has one tape, that would be disappointing. And it will be even more disappointing if MP14 are not the other tapes.
That makes waiting for a perfect Soundwave collection harder than it should be :(


The other tapes will be coming.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389107)
Posted by SS4steve on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:24am CDT
I know that the original price estimate were all subject to change and were ballpark guesses; but 200.00 for Soundwave/Lazerbeak versus 72.00 for Sidesswipe still looks too big of a price gap (even taking size differentials into account)

It does seem a little missleading that MP14 is going to be Red Alert. Would have been better to keep him as a MP12(a) or something of that sort.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389109)
Posted by Ghost Starscream on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:30am CDT
Takara isn't dumb. They know the Transformer world was waiting for a MP Soundwave and cassettes. So why release everything back to back? I'm sure they want you guessing when the other cassettes will be released. Im gunna take a wild guess and say we get 1 more MP after Red Alert before we see the cassettes.


As long as they make a Ratbat and ravage, I'm good to go.

Again, it is just a guess, not a fact.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389112)
Posted by joevill on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:46am CDT
Only one cassette?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389116)
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on June 12th, 2012 @ 9:14am CDT
joevill wrote:Only one cassette?

Trikeboy wrote:The other tapes will be coming.

Welp, ninja'd, despite Trikeboy replying to someone else. 8-}
But yeah like, Soundwave already jumped to 15800 yen, if he did come with other cassettes, you know people are just gonna complain about the bigger price increase instead. :oops:
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389121)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 12th, 2012 @ 9:48am CDT
So the complementary Cassetticon minions... are they the actual G1 originals or are they entirely modernized versions of our favorite characters? Because I would absolutely LOVE a modern version of Frenzy/Rumble (not the RTS molds). And is it known how big they are? Big enough to make Universe Ravage look proportional with his gang?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389126)
Posted by optimuscarlos on June 12th, 2012 @ 10:01am CDT
SO, I have to pay $50 bucks more for one cassette?
I'm thinking about canceling my pre order in BBTS
I would be happy if minimum they put Laserbeak and ravage.
But just laserbeak for $50 for a total of $200. I would buy a nice Macross valkyrie with that money.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389128)
Posted by Ghost Starscream on June 12th, 2012 @ 10:06am CDT
Bbts has Soundwave for 139..... Why would you cancel that?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389177)
Posted by Hotrodimust on June 12th, 2012 @ 1:26pm CDT
Anyone else feel they need to buy a bottle of lube for this serious a$$ f#€king from Takara. One tape really and then waste a whole mp slot on a repaint. I really hop fantoys still releases their mp style soundwave look alike because it's cheaper and probably comes with more than one tape. By the looks of it it's no longer hasbro and Takara it's hasbro and hasbro because Takara used to kinda give us good stuff. But now it's stickered up figures, down sized mp figures and repaints with the hype of a totally new mold. They even hyped up power core combiners and over priced them and the idiots will buy them but talked mega crap about pcc when hasbro released them. I love 3rd party and I wll gladly support it when ever given the choice. At least I get something I like for my money
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389209)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 12th, 2012 @ 2:43pm CDT
Hotrodimust wrote:Anyone else feel they need to buy a bottle of lube for this serious a$$ f#€king from Takara. One tape really and then waste a whole mp slot on a repaint. I really hop fantoys still releases their mp style soundwave look alike because it's cheaper and probably comes with more than one tape. By the looks of it it's no longer hasbro and Takara it's hasbro and hasbro because Takara used to kinda give us good stuff. But now it's stickered up figures, down sized mp figures and repaints with the hype of a totally new mold. They even hyped up power core combiners and over priced them and the idiots will buy them but talked mega crap about pcc when hasbro released them. I love 3rd party and I wll gladly support it when ever given the choice. At least I get something I like for my money


Didn't they cancel that?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389211)
Posted by Hotrodimust on June 12th, 2012 @ 2:45pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Anyone else feel they need to buy a bottle of lube for this serious a$$ f#€king from Takara. One tape really and then waste a whole mp slot on a repaint. I really hop fantoys still releases their mp style soundwave look alike because it's cheaper and probably comes with more than one tape. By the looks of it it's no longer hasbro and Takara it's hasbro and hasbro because Takara used to kinda give us good stuff. But now it's stickered up figures, down sized mp figures and repaints with the hype of a totally new mold. They even hyped up power core combiners and over priced them and the idiots will buy them but talked mega crap about pcc when hasbro released them. I love 3rd party and I wll gladly support it when ever given the choice. At least I get something I like for my money


Didn't they cancel that?

I heard it was canceled but I didn't read anything with an official statement saying it was but it looked sweet oh well
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389213)
Posted by TimothyR on June 12th, 2012 @ 2:48pm CDT
Hotrodimust wrote:Anyone else feel they need to buy a bottle of lube for this serious a$$ f#€king from Takara. One tape really and then waste a whole mp slot on a repaint. I really hop fantoys still releases their mp style soundwave look alike because it's cheaper and probably comes with more than one tape. By the looks of it it's no longer hasbro and Takara it's hasbro and hasbro because Takara used to kinda give us good stuff. But now it's stickered up figures, down sized mp figures and repaints with the hype of a totally new mold. They even hyped up power core combiners and over priced them and the idiots will buy them but talked mega crap about pcc when hasbro released them. I love 3rd party and I wll gladly support it when ever given the choice. At least I get something I like for my money


you do understand that red alert is an entirely different character and isn't akin to "sleep mode prime" .. or whatever. if they didn't use the sideswipe mold to give us a red alert, that would be a crime.

downsized? .. if you're referring to MP10.. the downsize (for me at least) is warranted, mp 01-04 is just entirely too large. and to get a G1 cast in that scale would be ridiculously expensive.
the sideswipe mold is smaller to be in scale with MP10 which makes sense.. which, again, will make collecting the entire cast far cheaper to collect.

usually we get, what, like 1 masterpiece figure a year, and this time we're getting 3 (two entirely new molds.) i think the size is perfect, and i believe this allows hasbro an easier time of getting these into US retail stores.

as far as hasbro vs takara thing. i agree that the stickers are a super lame idea.. but i doubt that's going to continue into other lines.. plus, i think i lot of people enjoy those little arms micron things.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389227)
Posted by GuyIncognito on June 12th, 2012 @ 3:09pm CDT
So is Red Alert MP12A or MP14?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389228)
Posted by Hotrodimust on June 12th, 2012 @ 3:10pm CDT
TimothyR wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Anyone else feel they need to buy a bottle of lube for this serious a$$ f#€king from Takara. One tape really and then waste a whole mp slot on a repaint. I really hop fantoys still releases their mp style soundwave look alike because it's cheaper and probably comes with more than one tape. By the looks of it it's no longer hasbro and Takara it's hasbro and hasbro because Takara used to kinda give us good stuff. But now it's stickered up figures, down sized mp figures and repaints with the hype of a totally new mold. They even hyped up power core combiners and over priced them and the idiots will buy them but talked mega crap about pcc when hasbro released them. I love 3rd party and I wll gladly support it when ever given the choice. At least I get something I like for my money


you do understand that red alert is an entirely different character and isn't akin to "sleep mode prime" .. or whatever. if they didn't use the sideswipe mold to give us a red alert, that would be a crime.

downsized? .. if you're referring to MP10.. the downsize (for me at least) is warranted, mp 01-04 is just entirely too large. and to get a G1 cast in that scale would be ridiculously expensive.
the sideswipe mold is smaller to be in scale with MP10 which makes sense.. which, again, will make collecting the entire cast far cheaper to collect.

usually we get, what, like 1 masterpiece figure a year, and this time we're getting 3 (two entirely new molds.) i think the size is perfect, and i believe this allows hasbro an easier time of getting these into US retail stores.

as far as hasbro vs takara thing. i agree that the stickers are a super lame idea.. but i doubt that's going to continue into other lines.. plus, i think i lot of people enjoy those little arms micron things.

Yes I know sideswipe and red alert are different characters but they are using the same mold. Look at the Lamborghini linsence for each figure it's an lp500s meaning the same mold. That's a waste to an mp slot to me and I want quality over quantity if I'm spending $100 or more on a plastic toy they spend less than $40 to make. And I'm not talking about mp-10 I love that figure I'm talking about mp-12 and 14 and I know they are more to scale but $80 for a small voyager is a lot for a figure that size. And yes I know 3rd party cost that much but they are not a huge corporation. I guess you can look at it like this ones Walmart and the other is your corner store. Walmart is cheaper they can buy in bulk and get cheaper prices on the items they sell so they offers lower prices. The corner store can't buy bulk so they don't get discounted prices and have to charge more for the items they sell. Some of the 3rd party companies make 500 pieces where hasbro makes 500,000 pieces but what ever I'm way off track now. And I like arms microns it just sucks in order to get them u have to buy a figure with less paint so they can even out the price to make the same profit on each figure. It's just wrong that these toy companies are that greedy even dotm figure got down sized a little because they added mech tech weapons and hasbro must of thought no one was gonna notice they were smaller lol. Even the new movie gi joes or avenger figures they added a spring loaded gimmick weapon and took articulation away from the figures so the cost of each figure is the same and they make the same profit. These companies can't take a little loose for the happiness of their customers
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389264)
Posted by craggy on June 12th, 2012 @ 3:55pm CDT
I'm not saying this is the case, but maybe HasTak realise that fans/collectors/plastic addicts will pay the $80 for a Voyager because people have been doing so for the past few years with unofficial products?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389270)
Posted by Blurrz on June 12th, 2012 @ 4:10pm CDT
>:oP

This is some funny stuff
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389300)
Posted by LiKwid on June 12th, 2012 @ 5:04pm CDT
Blurrz wrote: >:oP

This is some funny stuff


:APPLAUSE: :BOWDOWN:
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389302)
Posted by optimuscarlos on June 12th, 2012 @ 5:05pm CDT
Ghost Starscream wrote:Bbts has Soundwave for 139..... Why would you cancel that?


Well, I think that if the price officially gone up BBTS will have to rise the preorder price.
If that happens I will cancel my order.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389306)
Posted by Hotrodimust on June 12th, 2012 @ 5:19pm CDT
craggy wrote:I'm not saying this is the case, but maybe HasTak realise that fans/collectors/plastic addicts will pay the $80 for a Voyager because people have been doing so for the past few years with unofficial products?

No I also agree with this to I've said it in the past that hasbro is gonna finally relize we will pay over the top prices for the figure we truely want I just don't think sideswipe and red alert are some of those top priority figures.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389309)
Posted by AlmightyOrange on June 12th, 2012 @ 5:21pm CDT
It's good to see that Masterpiece Soundwave will include Lazerbeak. But I'm left wondering, will there be future releases of other cassette transformers? Even then I must wonder, Blaster? Now he would be a good retooling of the Soundwave figure. Exciting times for Transformers collectors.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389312)
Posted by budmaloney on June 12th, 2012 @ 5:28pm CDT
They should have made Soundwave MP-03

Get it? Cause he's a ...and it's the...aww never mind.

I'm happy they licensed Lambo for Sideswipe. I'm betting they might add an energon cube with Soundwave
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389318)
Posted by Hotrodimust on June 12th, 2012 @ 5:37pm CDT
budmaloney wrote:They should have made Soundwave MP-03

Get it? Cause he's a ...and it's the...aww never mind.

I'm happy they licensed Lambo for Sideswipe. I'm betting they might add an energon cube with Soundwave

That would be awesome if the released an energon cube. I have a few light up ones they look pretty sweet in my collection
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389326)
Posted by Blurrz on June 12th, 2012 @ 6:04pm CDT
AlmightyOrange wrote:It's good to see that Masterpiece Soundwave will include Lazerbeak. But I'm left wondering, will there be future releases of other cassette transformers? Even then I must wonder, Blaster? Now he would be a good retooling of the Soundwave figure. Exciting times for Transformers collectors.


My sources say that future cassettes will be released in two-packs. With the eventual Soundblaster release.. well you can guess which cassette that will be.


Hotrodimust wrote:
craggy wrote:I'm not saying this is the case, but maybe HasTak realise that fans/collectors/plastic addicts will pay the $80 for a Voyager because people have been doing so for the past few years with unofficial products?

No I also agree with this to I've said it in the past that hasbro is gonna finally relize we will pay over the top prices for the figure we truely want I just don't think sideswipe and red alert are some of those top priority figures.


How the hell are you mad about these Masterpiece releases? Did you ever know that for a long period of time (between Grimlock and Hot Rod, 2009-2011), the fandom was left in agony in the possibility that the Masterpiece line was dead?

You do realize with these short releases in a shorter period of time that means we are going to get more Masterpiece toys. And the fact that we are getting such a dynamic mold in the Lamborghini, that it means we'll likely get other G1 Masterpieces who had real life alternate modes?

With the release of Red Alert and Sideswipe means that every member of the G1 cast is getting their fair share of candicicy for the MP line. Holy Hannah, be thankful MP-12 isn't a bloody Volkswagen.

And honestly? That's your logic? Hasbro's finally learning that we'll pay big prices? Please, they've known it for a very long time. As fans we're suckers. We'll buy anything.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389334)
Posted by Mykltron on June 12th, 2012 @ 6:28pm CDT
Very pleased that the MP releases are due to come out more frequently.

Disappointed that MP-14 will be almost the same as mp-12.

Pleased that I won't be needing to buy three Masterpieces in a three month period.

Not surprised at all at the price increase but pleasantly surprised that it's still only a similar price to the previous Primes.

Very excited that I'll have a Masterpiece figure in time for my December birthday.

Trikeboy wrote:WOOHOO!!!! Masterpiece Laserbeak and MP14 Red Alert will be in December too, not next year like reported.


Don't bank on it. Expect delays. Plenty of them.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389336)
Posted by Flashwave on June 12th, 2012 @ 6:33pm CDT
Blurrz wrote: >:oP

This is some funny stuff


Thirded.

I'm quite happy for you guys to have something to enjoy and complain about, but I've already got my Alternators Sideswipe, and thats all these are anow are glorified ALt/BTs. Granted, Soundwave might actually be worth calling a Masterpiece, but not as a cassette player.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389339)
Posted by craggy on June 12th, 2012 @ 6:37pm CDT
considering the 2nd hand prices for some of the earlier Classics-verse figures, which are only Deluxe size and nowhere near as well-engineered or geewun in looks as this upcoming Sideswipe...and considering that he's out with Soundwave soon to follow, and not that long after the retooled Starscream...and that, iconic as he might be, he's pretty far from one of the most requested of the G1 lineup...

I'd say the price is good, as is the prospect that we'll be getting a lot more MPs. I don't know that I'll get SS, but I'm happy about his release.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389341)
Posted by Stormrider on June 12th, 2012 @ 6:43pm CDT
I don't understand why a few folks are freaking out over this announcement. This is not tragic news. As others stated already - I hope this means we get these figures more frequently.

And I hope Laserbeak is a slightly larger tape to allow more detail and flexibility. BBTS has MP Soundwave for $140.

Anyone else notice BBTS description for Sideswipe?

Sideswipe’s overwhelming combat prowess and casual disregard for fair practice rival those of his twin brother, Sunstreaker, while lacking the element of Sunstreaker’s vindictiveness. Sideswipe’s fearlessness fuels a compulsory headlong rush into any battle, and he is often wounded by his own excesses. His greatest source of pride is his rocket pack, which enables him to fly for up to 2 minutes. Sideswipe’s reflexes are drastically heightened by quantum reflex processors. His arms can be utilized as piledrivers, and he is capable of firing flares that are visible for 18 miles.

Are they hinting that Sideswipe will come with piledrivers and a jet pack?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389346)
Posted by Hotrodimust on June 12th, 2012 @ 6:49pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:
AlmightyOrange wrote:It's good to see that Masterpiece Soundwave will include Lazerbeak. But I'm left wondering, will there be future releases of other cassette transformers? Even then I must wonder, Blaster? Now he would be a good retooling of the Soundwave figure. Exciting times for Transformers collectors.


My sources say that future cassettes will be released in two-packs. With the eventual Soundblaster release.. well you can guess which cassette that will be.


Hotrodimust wrote:
craggy wrote:I'm not saying this is the case, but maybe HasTak realise that fans/collectors/plastic addicts will pay the $80 for a Voyager because people have been doing so for the past few years with unofficial products?

No I also agree with this to I've said it in the past that hasbro is gonna finally relize we will pay over the top prices for the figure we truely want I just don't think sideswipe and red alert are some of those top priority figures.


How the hell are you mad about these Masterpiece releases? Did you ever know that for a long period of time (between Grimlock and Hot Rod, 2009-2011), the fandom was left in agony in the possibility that the Masterpiece line was dead?

You do realize with these short releases in a shorter period of time that means we are going to get more Masterpiece toys. And the fact that we are getting such a dynamic mold in the Lamborghini, that it means we'll likely get other G1 Masterpieces who had real life alternate modes?

With the release of Red Alert and Sideswipe means that every member of the G1 cast is getting their fair share of candicicy for the MP line. Holy Hannah, be thankful MP-12 isn't a bloody Volkswagen.

And honestly? That's your logic? Hasbro's finally learning that we'll pay big prices? Please, they've known it for a very long time. As fans we're suckers. We'll buy anything.

I'm not really mad it's just not that great to me. Like soundwave might be cool and it's ok that sideswipe is an mp and its cool he is lisence by Lamborghini but to make mp 14 the same as 12 sucks. He should be 12-a. But really thinking about it what's the difference between the seeker releases and this nothing so I've changed my mine I'm fine with it. And hasbro gets the suckers to buy anything that's right suckers have fun with that crapy pcc bruticus lol
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389351)
Posted by SkyWarpt on June 12th, 2012 @ 7:00pm CDT
You do realize with these short releases in a shorter period of time that means we are going to get more Masterpiece toys. And the fact that we are getting such a dynamic mold in the Lamborghini, that it means we'll likely get other G1 Masterpieces who had real life alternate modes?

With the release of Red Alert and Sideswipe means that every member of the G1 cast is getting their fair share of candicicy for the MP line. Holy Hannah, be thankful MP-12 isn't a bloody Volkswagen.


I agree…It would be nice to see a Porshe
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389372)
Posted by TimothyR on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:34pm CDT
Hotrodimust wrote:Yes I know sideswipe and red alert are different characters but they are using the same mold. Look at the Lamborghini linsence for each figure it's an lp500s meaning the same mold. That's a waste to an mp slot to me and I want quality over quantity if I'm spending $100 or more on a plastic toy they spend less than $40 to make. And I'm not talking about mp-10 I love that figure I'm talking about mp-12 and 14 and I know they are more to scale but $80 for a small voyager is a lot for a figure that size. And yes I know 3rd party cost that much but they are not a huge corporation. I guess you can look at it like this ones Walmart and the other is your corner store. Walmart is cheaper they can buy in bulk and get cheaper prices on the items they sell so they offers lower prices. The corner store can't buy bulk so they don't get discounted prices and have to charge more for the items they sell. Some of the 3rd party companies make 500 pieces where hasbro makes 500,000 pieces but what ever I'm way off track now. And I like arms microns it just sucks in order to get them u have to buy a figure with less paint so they can even out the price to make the same profit on each figure. It's just wrong that these toy companies are that greedy even dotm figure got down sized a little because they added mech tech weapons and hasbro must of thought no one was gonna notice they were smaller lol. Even the new movie gi joes or avenger figures they added a spring loaded gimmick weapon and took articulation away from the figures so the cost of each figure is the same and they make the same profit. These companies can't take a little loose for the happiness of their customers


i completely agree with you about how it's wrong to take articulation away from figures in order to give them spring loaded weapons and what not. the new phase 2 captain rex has no wrist articulation, or knees, or ankles.. i'm surprised his elbows bend at this point.

but i don't think you're understanding what i'm saying about price. all takara figures cost more.. from deluxe to masterpiece figures, they're all more expensive. now if you wait for the hasbro release it'll probably be around $35-$40 rather than $80.. which to me, for a collectors figure at TRU is reasonable. you're just commenting on takara's pricing which is high, it's an import after all.

red alert is necessary.. when it's all said and done, i'm hoping we get all of the G1 cast. i don't see why red alert is a problem, he'll have a new paint scheme, a different launcher, and a new head. .. he's not "taking a slot" from anyone. and i'm not sure if you know this, but there are A LOT of repaints in the original show, and with the original toy line. since they have the sideswipe mold ready.. why wouldn't they just get red alert out of the way? ? it just makes too much sense. i honestly don't know what you're problem with this is. .. plus we're getting a soundwave. 3 new MP figures, 2 new MP molds in one year.. i don't believe that happens very often.

basically it's like them releasing an MP ironhide and the next one is ratchet with an MP galvatron being released around the same time.. would you complain that you don't want the ratchet because it'll just be a repaint? .. no, because ironhide and ratchet are their own characters. it's not like they're releasing a "stealth sideswipe". they're releasing a prominent character from the show.

this argument just seems kind of pointless.. i'll say this if they were doing an mp "stealth sideswipe" and giving it it's own number rather than a letter.. i'd agree with you. but it's a completely different character. and like i said, it just makes too much sense.. why put it off when they can just release it now.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389380)
Posted by Hotrodimust on June 12th, 2012 @ 8:58pm CDT
TimothyR wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Yes I know sideswipe and red alert are different characters but they are using the same mold. Look at the Lamborghini linsence for each figure it's an lp500s meaning the same mold. That's a waste to an mp slot to me and I want quality over quantity if I'm spending $100 or more on a plastic toy they spend less than $40 to make. And I'm not talking about mp-10 I love that figure I'm talking about mp-12 and 14 and I know they are more to scale but $80 for a small voyager is a lot for a figure that size. And yes I know 3rd party cost that much but they are not a huge corporation. I guess you can look at it like this ones Walmart and the other is your corner store. Walmart is cheaper they can buy in bulk and get cheaper prices on the items they sell so they offers lower prices. The corner store can't buy bulk so they don't get discounted prices and have to charge more for the items they sell. Some of the 3rd party companies make 500 pieces where hasbro makes 500,000 pieces but what ever I'm way off track now. And I like arms microns it just sucks in order to get them u have to buy a figure with less paint so they can even out the price to make the same profit on each figure. It's just wrong that these toy companies are that greedy even dotm figure got down sized a little because they added mech tech weapons and hasbro must of thought no one was gonna notice they were smaller lol. Even the new movie gi joes or avenger figures they added a spring loaded gimmick weapon and took articulation away from the figures so the cost of each figure is the same and they make the same profit. These companies can't take a little loose for the happiness of their customers


i completely agree with you about how it's wrong to take articulation away from figures in order to give them spring loaded weapons and what not. the new phase 2 captain rex has no wrist articulation, or knees, or ankles.. i'm surprised his elbows bend at this point.

but i don't think you're understanding what i'm saying about price. all takara figures cost more.. from deluxe to masterpiece figures, they're all more expensive. now if you wait for the hasbro release it'll probably be around $35-$40 rather than $80.. which to me, for a collectors figure at TRU is reasonable. you're just commenting on takara's pricing which is high, it's an import after all.

red alert is necessary.. when it's all said and done, i'm hoping we get all of the G1 cast. i don't see why red alert is a problem, he'll have a new paint scheme, a different launcher, and a new head. .. he's not "taking a slot" from anyone. and i'm not sure if you know this, but there are A LOT of repaints in the original show, and with the original toy line. since they have the sideswipe mold ready.. why wouldn't they just get red alert out of the way? ? it just makes too much sense. i honestly don't know what you're problem with this is. .. plus we're getting a soundwave. 3 new MP figures, 2 new MP molds in one year.. i don't believe that happens very often.

basically it's like them releasing an MP ironhide and the next one is ratchet with an MP galvatron being released around the same time.. would you complain that you don't want the ratchet because it'll just be a repaint? .. no, because ironhide and ratchet are their own characters. it's not like they're releasing a "stealth sideswipe". they're releasing a prominent character from the show.

this argument just seems kind of pointless.. i'll say this if they were doing an mp "stealth sideswipe" and giving it it's own number rather than a letter.. i'd agree with you. but it's a completely different character. and like i said, it just makes too much sense.. why put it off when they can just release it now.

I know one of my last comments a while back was I really thought about it and it's no different than the seeker molds. I guess I was really hoping it was gonna be ultra Magnus with trailer that turns o him armor but I cab only dream lol. And they had already mentioned red alert when they officially announced soundwave and then they said mp-14 will be announced in a couple weeks but they kinda already announced him they just didn't say his number so that's why when I read it was red alert I was kinda bumed out
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389473)
Posted by Mykltron on June 13th, 2012 @ 6:54am CDT
Stormrider wrote:Anyone else notice BBTS description for Sideswipe?

Sideswipe’s overwhelming combat prowess and casual disregard for fair practice rival those of his twin brother, Sunstreaker, while lacking the element of Sunstreaker’s vindictiveness. Sideswipe’s fearlessness fuels a compulsory headlong rush into any battle, and he is often wounded by his own excesses. His greatest source of pride is his rocket pack, which enables him to fly for up to 2 minutes. Sideswipe’s reflexes are drastically heightened by quantum reflex processors. His arms can be utilized as piledrivers, and he is capable of firing flares that are visible for 18 miles.

Are they hinting that Sideswipe will come with piledrivers and a jet pack?


And a working flare gun?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389483)
Posted by TFan1234 on June 13th, 2012 @ 7:30am CDT
It would be good if Sideswipe has jet pack. I think in one of the early G1 episodes sideswipe lent Optimus Prime his jet pack to chase the decepticons. So it makes sense to have a jet pack that would fit both MP-12 and MP-10. If that's the case that might explain why MP-12 is Sideswipe.

It would be super great if MP-13 Soundwave is also a working mp3 player (like the Music Label) with room for cassette figures. Music Label soundwave is a good figure, but not a good mp3 player with very basic mp3 functions; it uses a miniSD card with no room for cassettes. If would be great if MP-13 updates the technology.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389493)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on June 13th, 2012 @ 7:55am CDT
Mykltron wrote:
Stormrider wrote:Anyone else notice BBTS description for Sideswipe?

Sideswipe’s overwhelming combat prowess and casual disregard for fair practice rival those of his twin brother, Sunstreaker, while lacking the element of Sunstreaker’s vindictiveness. Sideswipe’s fearlessness fuels a compulsory headlong rush into any battle, and he is often wounded by his own excesses. His greatest source of pride is his rocket pack, which enables him to fly for up to 2 minutes. Sideswipe’s reflexes are drastically heightened by quantum reflex processors. His arms can be utilized as piledrivers, and he is capable of firing flares that are visible for 18 miles.

Are they hinting that Sideswipe will come with piledrivers and a jet pack?


And a working flare gun?


That would have passed in the 1990 where the Sparkbots could clear safety standards. :lol:
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389520)
Posted by Ghost Starscream on June 13th, 2012 @ 9:36am CDT
The BBTS price is a customer appreciation deal. Any change to the price other than lowering it, would be them going back on a promise and I'm sure they would lose a lot of customers. I doubt BBTS is that dumb.

But I can see the price goin up on the preorder AFTER the Tokyo Trade show. So it would be wise to pre order it now to get the better deal. :CON:
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389534)
Posted by GuyIncognito on June 13th, 2012 @ 10:27am CDT
I'm confused: is Red Alert going to be MP 12A or MP 14?
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389557)
Posted by RodimalToyota on June 13th, 2012 @ 11:34am CDT
just got the email, BBTS going from 139.99 - 169.99$
If you have a preorder though, it's only going up to 159.99, and they are absorbing the 10$.

30$ for a lazerbeak, better be able to play music for that price. :roll:
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389563)
Posted by Ghost Starscream on June 13th, 2012 @ 11:52am CDT
Just received the email.

Nice how they blame the cost on Laserbeak.How can they release a G1version of Soundwave without a cassette? That's just a stupid thought.

U.S. merchants - oh hey look, Soundwave comes with a cassette.... I didn't know that.

Dumb asses.

Still keeping my preorder regardless. But wonder how many pre orders they will lose. :HEADHURTS:
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389599)
Posted by alldarker on June 13th, 2012 @ 2:08pm CDT
I think BBTS are handling this in the best possible way they are able to. Considering Takara finally now set the retail price at a much higher price-point than was initially expected, BBTS can't be faulted for adapting their pre-order price, which, even at $169.99, is very reasonable considering the USD to yen rate. Granting the early pre-orders (including, like my pre-order, the ones that were made AFTER the price-hike was announced) an extra $10 is above and beyond, as far as I'm concerned: BBTS were under no obligation to do so at all.
BBTS is a business and not a charity, and I'd advise anyone who doesn't like these new BBTS prices to cancel their pre-order so as to find better prices.
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Posted by duo_maxwell_1017 on June 13th, 2012 @ 3:17pm CDT
I agree BBTS is giving an extra break for those who preordered early like I did. Yea $20 for Laserbeak kinda sucks, but BBTS is letting us get it for $20 instead of $30. A company like that doesn't have to do anything they could of charged the extra $30 and thats it. Be greatful there were getting something out of this!!!
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389655)
Posted by Stormrider on June 13th, 2012 @ 5:14pm CDT
I appreciate BBTS sending out emails with an explanation and trying to be transparent about the cost and the price. I wasn't too shocked about the price increase. And if it seemed too high, I would have canceled and waited it out for the Hasbro version.
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389659)
Posted by Ghost Starscream on June 13th, 2012 @ 5:29pm CDT
IMO the reason behind the explanation was fail. I don't mind the increase either but say it was due to the Takara increase and not because you just found out you're getting Laserbeak. It's just dumb to NOT expect Soundwave to come with a tape.
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Posted by Omega-1 on June 13th, 2012 @ 6:30pm CDT
I think I might wait for the Hasbro version. It will probably be at least half the price and look almost exactly the same if MP-10 and MP-08 are any indication.
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Posted by REMINATOR on June 13th, 2012 @ 9:18pm CDT
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389828)
Posted by Optimutt on June 14th, 2012 @ 4:59am CDT
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389833)
Posted by alldarker on June 14th, 2012 @ 5:28am CDT
Looks pretty good! Soundwave doesn't really hold many surprises, but I especially do like Laserbeak! Internal rocket-pack; very nifty. Still really hoping for some electronic functions on Soundwave, and perhaps even some electronic interaction between Laserbeak and Soundwave (voice-chip or something).
Re: New Takara Masterpiece Information: MP-13 Soundwave to Include Laserbeak, MP-14 will be Red Alert (1389851)
Posted by Deruji on June 14th, 2012 @ 7:03am CDT
After looking at the fanstoys version a while, this one looks a little plain in the details department. Just the legs could use some more details at the front and he'll be perfect.
I like how Laserbeak looks, I just wish there would be more than one cassette when he comes out :(
And I really hope we'll be able to get all cassettes without having to buy any repaints of Soundwave

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