New toy law to adversely affect collectors market?

Energon wrote:Then just re-list them as an adult collectable.

Chaoslock wrote:

Energon wrote:Then just re-list them as an adult collectable.

That was what I was thinking... still, is it possible to go around the law that way? And if not, what will be the reaction of online TF sellers as BBTS, or others?
And how will this influence orders in and out of the US?

Energon wrote:Then just re-list them as an adult collectable.

A new federal law is raising concerns and questions nationwide and here in Austin.
On February 10, 2009 it will be illegal to re-sell any used children's products including toys and clothing. That is according to the U.S. Consumer Protection & Safety Commission who pushed for the new laws after dozens of toys were recalled in 2008 because of lead concerns.

Toys, clothing and other items used by children under 12 will be subjected to lead testing and will have to have labels on them to prove that they have passed inspection.

What is raising the ire of parents and business owners far and wide is what this will mean to clothing, toys and other children products made before February 10, 2009.

Gary Walthall, the owner of Once upon a Child, a resale shop specializing in children's clothing and other items, is afraid that he'll have to close up shop.

Adding to the confusion and frustration is the fact that the U.S. Consumer Products and Safety Commission is not returning calls or e-mails to the countless re-salers and even journalists who have tried in vain to get clarification on what the law means to garage sales and how it will be enforced.

Dead Metal wrote::lol:

There is nothing else to add to this stupidity.

DISCHARGE wrote:You know, this is completely obsurd!

With the state of the current economy they are going to
destroy even more peoples income. I just lost my job, day after x-mas nonetheless, and now am resorting to selling portions of my collection until I can find another place to work. This gov is getting out of control in telling us what we can/can't do, and I'm getting fed up. They are supposed to work for us, not the other way around.

One minute they want us to recycle the next they tell us not too.
That's just what selling used clothing and toys is, recycling.
Does this mean that places like Goodwill and Salvation Army, not forgetting all the resale/thrift store, will have nothing to offer except used silverware and tvs that won't work without a converter box?

This law is trash and the politicians that pushed it through should have looked beyond their manicured estates and taken a drive down skid row. All those people rely on used goods to get by.

Out-of-control!

King of Terror wrote:

DISCHARGE wrote:You know, this is completely obsurd!

With the state of the current economy they are going to
destroy even more peoples income. I just lost my job, day after x-mas nonetheless, and now am resorting to selling portions of my collection until I can find another place to work. This gov is getting out of control in telling us what we can/can't do, and I'm getting fed up. They are supposed to work for us, not the other way around.

One minute they want us to recycle the next they tell us not too.
That's just what selling used clothing and toys is, recycling.
Does this mean that places like Goodwill and Salvation Army, not forgetting all the resale/thrift store, will have nothing to offer except used silverware and tvs that won't work without a converter box?

This law is trash and the politicians that pushed it through should have looked beyond their manicured estates and taken a drive down skid row. All those people rely on used goods to get by.

Out-of-control!

The law making don't know the coats that the smaller companies will have to take on to make sure everything "has nothing that will hurt anything" in it. They don't mean to get angry letters from moms how just caught their kid licking a toy that had lead in it and now they are mildly retarded. But hey lets make sure this fine nation can make sure the little guy has no leg to stand on.

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.

Cyber Bishop wrote:For the lazy.

A new federal law is raising concerns and questions nationwide and here in Austin.
On February 10, 2009 it will be illegal to re-sell any used children's products including toys and clothing. That is according to the U.S. Consumer Protection & Safety Commission who pushed for the new laws after dozens of toys were recalled in 2008 because of lead concerns.

Toys, clothing and other items used by children under 12 will be subjected to lead testing and will have to have labels on them to prove that they have passed inspection.

What is raising the ire of parents and business owners far and wide is what this will mean to clothing, toys and other children products made before February 10, 2009.

Gary Walthall, the owner of Once upon a Child, a resale shop specializing in children's clothing and other items, is afraid that he'll have to close up shop.

Adding to the confusion and frustration is the fact that the U.S. Consumer Products and Safety Commission is not returning calls or e-mails to the countless re-salers and even journalists who have tried in vain to get clarification on what the law means to garage sales and how it will be enforced.

Shame that all this is from those toys being recalled due to the lead issues.

Mkall wrote:I wonder if this explains BBTS's recent warning?

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.

Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:More info on it but it is very confusing
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-t ... 3247.story
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtex ... =h110-4040

Mkall wrote:I wonder if this explains BBTS's recent warning?

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.

Kaiser Convoy wrote:i really have no clue about the US legal system and why stuff like this happens, hell i have no clue about the UK legal system, but thats because they are even more retarded over here and listen to the 3% of the population that sits on their arses and do nothing but whine about almost everything that isn't done in a certain way, hell they whine if you sneeze in the wrong direction.

anyroad, i hate to be a killjoy, but i had toys with lead paint in them, i handled and worked with lead metal miniatures (games workshop) and i've had nothing serioulsy detrimental happen to me. i stuck toys in my mouth when i was a kid, held onto them with my teeth whilst getting something else, and i;ve not had anything happen to me.

My mom used to be a QC and she said it was unreal the amount of mistakes and shotty things that she viewed and sometimes the boss would say ship it anyway.
personally it not the fault of the parents, its more down to the media and the manufacturers. the media for all the bloody scaremongering that they do when something "catastrophic" or "harmful" happens, and the manufacturers for not holding tighter QC on their overseas factories

Kaiser Convoy wrote:i really have no clue about the US legal system and why stuff like this happens, hell i have no clue about the UK legal system, but thats because they are even more retarded over here and listen to the 3% of the population that sits on their arses and do nothing but whine about almost everything that isn't done in a certain way, hell they whine if you sneeze in the wrong direction.

anyroad, i hate to be a killjoy, but i had toys with lead paint in them, i handled and worked with lead metal miniatures (games workshop) and i've had nothing serioulsy detrimental happen to me. i stuck toys in my mouth when i was a kid, held onto them with my teeth whilst getting something else, and i;ve not had anything happen to me.

personally it not the fault of the parents, its more down to the media and the manufacturers. the media for all the bloody scaremongering that they do when something "catastrophic" or "harmful" happens, and the manufacturers for not holding tighter QC on their overseas factories

nemesis-prime wrote:My mom used to be a QC and she said it was unreal the amount of mistakes and shotty things that she viewed and sometimes the boss would say ship it anyway.

Mkall wrote:I wonder if this explains BBTS's recent warning?

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.

Kaiser Convoy wrote:

Kaiser Convoy wrote:i really have no clue about the US legal system and why stuff like this happens, hell i have no clue about the UK legal system, but thats because they are even more retarded over here and listen to the 3% of the population that sits on their arses and do nothing but whine about almost everything that isn't done in a certain way, hell they whine if you sneeze in the wrong direction.

anyroad, i hate to be a killjoy, but i had toys with lead paint in them, i handled and worked with lead metal miniatures (games workshop) and i've had nothing serioulsy detrimental happen to me. i stuck toys in my mouth when i was a kid, held onto them with my teeth whilst getting something else, and i;ve not had anything happen to me.

personally it not the fault of the parents, its more down to the media and the manufacturers. the media for all the bloody scaremongering that they do when something "catastrophic" or "harmful" happens, and the manufacturers for not holding tighter QC on their overseas factories

nemesis-prime wrote:My mom used to be a QC and she said it was unreal the amount of mistakes and shotty things that she viewed and sometimes the boss would say ship it anyway.

was that what you meant to write?? lol

Sec105, 1, D, ii wrote:The term ‘retailer’ has the meaning given that term in section 3 of the Consumer Product Safety Act (15 U.S.C. 2052), but does not include an individual whose selling activity is intermittent and does not constitute a trade or business.

Sec201 a, a, 4 wrote:the efforts of the Commission to reach and educate retailers of second-hand products and informal sellers, such as thrift shops and yard sales, concerning consumer product safety rules and product recalls, especially those relating to durable nursery products, in order to prevent the resale of any products that have been recalled, including the development of educational materials for distribution not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act.

Agent 007 wrote:lame, now quick we gotta form a tf underground railroad!

i_amtrunks wrote:

Mkall wrote:I wonder if this explains BBTS's recent warning?

BBTS wrote:Safety Warning: This Product is for Adult Collectors. It may contain sharp points, small parts that are choking hazards, and other elements that are not suitable for children under 16 years of age.

If it is, it means BBTS think that they might get sued by parents if the toys are tested later.

Funny usually laws like this are made to give the public a sense of feeling that their government is doing something to help and protect them, but its all for show and they never follow through with it and enforce it.

The only thing to come from unenforceable laws like this are law suits...

Counterpunch wrote:Laws have to be enforcable.

This will never fly.

You guys are too jumpy.

::kicks dirt at reactive legislation::