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Thursday, July 25th, 2013 2:19PM CDT

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IGN has uploaded a new preview clip from tomorrow's final episode of Transformers Prime Beast Hunters, "Deadlock". Spoiler warnings are in effect. Be sure to tune into the Hub Network tomorrow evening at 7:30 PM ET.

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Posted by Mindmaster on July 25th, 2013 @ 2:20pm CDT
Gah, tomorrow can't get here fast enough! :BANG_HEAD:
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 25th, 2013 @ 2:33pm CDT
So Optimus is willing to let Earth be Cyberformed??? :O
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Posted by Windsweeper on July 25th, 2013 @ 3:17pm CDT
So am I reading this right? Is this really the last ever episode of Transformers Prime?
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 25th, 2013 @ 3:20pm CDT
Windsweeper wrote:So am I reading this right? Is this really the last ever episode of Transformers Prime?


Yep, then we have the series finale movie in late August/early September.
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Posted by megatronis on July 25th, 2013 @ 4:39pm CDT
I have unfortunately. missed ALL of season 3...DVD/BLURAY hurry up!! ps why is this only like half a season????? :-? AND WHY MUST IT BE CANCELED :sad: :sad: :sad: :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD:
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 25th, 2013 @ 4:45pm CDT
megatronis wrote:I have unfortunately. missed ALL of season 3...DVD/BLURAY hurry up!! ps why is this only like half a season????? :-? AND WHY MUST IT BE CANCELED :sad: :sad: :sad: :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD:


I'd say "YouTube", but it seems Hasbro's putting the hurt on users uploading the episodes. I'm sure one of our fellow board members would be generous enough to put up links to the episodes of Season 3. ;)

It's not necessarily being canceled: just like Beast Wars and Armada, Prime's writers are working on a sequel series to Prime.
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Posted by megatronis on July 25th, 2013 @ 4:59pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
megatronis wrote:I have unfortunately. missed ALL of season 3...DVD/BLURAY hurry up!! ps why is this only like half a season????? :-? AND WHY MUST IT BE CANCELED :sad: :sad: :sad: :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD:


I'd say "YouTube", but it seems Hasbro's putting the hurt on users uploading the episodes. I'm sure one of our fellow board members would be generous enough to put up links to the episodes of Season 3. ;)

It's not necessarily being canceled: just like Beast Wars and Armada, Prime's writers are working on a sequel series to Prime.


A sequel series huh? THAT i can live with...i assume it will be cannon with prime and beast hunters? youtube it self is cracking down on everybody it seems...i tried to upload a call of duty ghost vid and it BLOCKED it!....sigh...i thought they just hated me...thanks for bursting my self pitty bubble! :lol:
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Posted by PrymeStriker on July 25th, 2013 @ 5:50pm CDT
megatronis wrote:A sequel series huh? THAT i can live with...i assume it will be cannon with prime and beast hunters?


That's what "sequel series" means.

It will also be canon with the rest of the Aligned continuity - WFC, Rescue Bots, FoC, Exodus, & Exiles

Prime & Beast Hunters are the same show. ;)
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Posted by Breakdown318 on July 25th, 2013 @ 6:03pm CDT
This is awesome! Too bad I will be out of town tomorrow, and the hotel does not have the hub :-( . So I will try to watch it on YouTube when It comes up. Really busy this weekend so I will not be posting a lot.
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Posted by megatronis on July 25th, 2013 @ 7:04pm CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:
megatronis wrote:A sequel series huh? THAT i can live with...i assume it will be cannon with prime and beast hunters?


That's what "sequel series" means.

It will also be canon with the rest of the Aligned continuity - WFC, Rescue Bots, FoC, Exodus, & Exiles

Prime & Beast Hunters are the same show. ;)


Well I'm just sayin cuz some shows say sequel series but the totaly ignor the first....for an exanple if fulm ghost rider 2 ignored and changed the first movie....transformers 4 is spose to be a reboot/sequel that's in continuity with some changes......Even tho it looks like its nkt changing anything >:oP
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 25th, 2013 @ 9:33pm CDT
Breakdown318 wrote:This is awesome! Too bad I will be out of town tomorrow, and the hotel does not have the hub :-( . So I will try to watch it on YouTube when It comes up. Really busy this weekend so I will not be posting a lot.

You have the same situation as me, I might watch it on a live stream though.
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 25th, 2013 @ 9:46pm CDT
The Official Transformers Facebook page posted a teaser image for Tomorrows episode.

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Bumblebee with the Star Saber? :O
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 25th, 2013 @ 9:48pm CDT
Weird. So, when set in stone or something else, the Star Saber cannot be moved unless handled by a Prime (ala Excalibur), but when it's just laying on the ground like that, it can be picked up by others?
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 25th, 2013 @ 9:51pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Weird. So, when set in stone or something else, the Star Saber cannot be moved unless handled by a Prime (ala Excalibur), but when it's just laying on the ground like that, it can be picked up by others?

That would explain how the Decepticons were able to transport it to the nemesis after Autobot Outpost Omega 1 was destroyed.
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2013 @ 11:07pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:So am I reading this right? Is this really the last ever episode of Transformers Prime?


Yep, then we have the series finale movie in late August/early September.
This is the series finale. The movie's an epilogue. ;)
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Posted by Va'al on July 26th, 2013 @ 1:56am CDT
Courtesy of the official Transformers Facebook page, we have another promotional image for tonight's season finale episode for Transformers: Prime Beast Hunters - Deadlock. Check out the mirrored image below!

Check out this exclusive shot from tomorrow's finale of Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters! With the chance to restore life to their home planet finally within reach, the Autobots and their human friends face the Decepticons for a last showdown.


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Posted by Twitchythe3rd on July 26th, 2013 @ 2:13am CDT
Arise, Bumblemus Prime?
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Posted by EagleTron on July 26th, 2013 @ 2:57am CDT
I thought only a prime could hold the saber. Could it be BumbblePrime or is just that somehow that omega lock thing is attracting or pulling the sword like magneticlly or some thing and bee is trying to keep it from getting sucked into that cyber matter creating machine.

IM BACK :DANCE: 8)
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 26th, 2013 @ 7:11am CDT
Twitchythe3rd wrote:Arise, Bumblemus Prime?


If there's one thing I can take away from the IDW Generation One continuity, it's this: never make Bumblebee the leader. :lol:
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Posted by PrymeStriker on July 26th, 2013 @ 7:32am CDT
Why is everyone trying to pick up the Star Saber? It's heavier than any of them can hope to bench.
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 26th, 2013 @ 7:50am CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:Why is everyone trying to pick up the Star Saber? It's heavier than any of them can hope to bench.


How can we be sure? Yes, despite Megatron's vast strength, even he could not pull the Star Saber from the rock, but so far, we've only seen Optimus Prime hold it with ease. It could be possible that, though it can only be removed by a Prime, it can be held (but not used in combat) by others of less nobility.

We've got less than twelve hours until the episode airs: I can wait to find out. ;)
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2013 @ 8:07am CDT
Yeah, Bee's probably just trying to pick it up so he can either get it to safety of give it to Prime. It might even be so heavy that he's forced to drag it rather than lift it all the way.
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Posted by CR71Autobot on July 26th, 2013 @ 8:47am CDT
Is it just me, or has Smokescreen recently gotten the shaft. He was the only one who stayed behind to save Optimus, he passed up his opportunity to become Prime despite being a worthy candidate, and he rebuilt Optimus, saving the earth from certain destruction. Since then all he's done is change his colors and say his one line each episode. My guess is he's being set up to die :-(
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2013 @ 8:49am CDT
CR71Autobot wrote:Is it just me, or has Smokescreen recently gotten the shaft. He was the only one who stayed behind to save Optimus, he passed up his opportunity to become Prime despite being a worthy candidate, and he rebuilt Optimus, saving the earth from certain destruction. Since then all he's done is change his colors and say his one line each episode. My guess is he's being set up to die :-(
An earlier trailer gave us a glimpse at what might possibly be Smokescreen wielding the Star Saber, but we'll see.
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 26th, 2013 @ 8:52am CDT
CR71Autobot wrote:Is it just me, or has Smokescreen recently gotten the shaft. He was the only one who stayed behind to save Optimus, he passed up his opportunity to become Prime despite being a worthy candidate, and he rebuilt Optimus, saving the earth from certain destruction. Since then all he's done is change his colors and say his one line each episode. My guess is he's being set up to die :-(

He won't die in this episode since we saw him in the Predacons Rising clip.
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Posted by RAcast on July 26th, 2013 @ 7:17pm CDT
Ohh, oh-hohoho! That was good, that was quite good indeed!
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 26th, 2013 @ 8:44pm CDT
Would anyone be so gracious as to provide a link to tonight's episode? Unfortunately, something unexpected came up, so I had to miss it. :-(
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2013 @ 10:46pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Would anyone be so gracious as to provide a link to tonight's episode? Unfortunately, something unexpected came up, so I had to miss it. :-(
http://wetvall.weebly.com/transformers-prime---season-3-episode-13---deadlock.html
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 27th, 2013 @ 7:45am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Would anyone be so gracious as to provide a link to tonight's episode? Unfortunately, something unexpected came up, so I had to miss it. :-(
http://wetvall.weebly.com/transformers-prime---season-3-episode-13---deadlock.html


Thanks, Sabrblade! Just finished watching it.

Fantastic episode! Actually made me tear up. :(
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 9:40am CDT
Holy crap was that another Autobot love fest. Almost as bad as the end of T3 DotM. Thanks to the movies and these recent series, I now almost projectile vomit when I hear or see Bumblebee or even a yellow camaro. :vomit:

The humans were aggravating as well. Sh!t ending to an otherwise good storyline.
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 27th, 2013 @ 9:53am CDT
Cyclonus43 wrote:Sh!t ending to an otherwise good storyline.

How was this a shit ending? It had closure, something other series didn't have.
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Posted by PrymeStriker on July 27th, 2013 @ 10:13am CDT
Cyclonus43 wrote:Holy crap was that another Autobot love fest.


Yes, because showing affection toward comrades you've fought beside for years is certainly a taboo
act.

Tell me; do you have any friends? If so, you too have experienced a similar "love fest."

Almost as bad as the end of T3 DotM.


:lol:

Yeah, you must be having a bad day to compare this to that.

Thanks to the movies and these recent series, I now almost projectile vomit when I here or see Bumblebee or even a yellow camaro. :vomit:


Kid, an episode is built around writing, storytelling, and character development, something "Deadlock" delivered well. It's not built around how much you hate a character because your local Wal-Mart overstocked him. :roll:

The humans were aggravating as well.


Oh here we go with this bull again. :BANG_HEAD:
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Posted by MightyMagnus78 on July 27th, 2013 @ 10:24am CDT
Kid, an episode is built around writing, storytelling, and character development, something "Deadlock" delivered well. It's not built around how much you hate a character because your local Wal-Mart overstocked him. :roll:


:lol:
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Posted by MightyMagnus78 on July 27th, 2013 @ 10:29am CDT
The only disappointing thing about TF Prime, is the fact that it had to come to an end. :-(

Epic series. It was just as good if not better than G1 IMO and I will really miss it.
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:25am CDT
viruscarnage wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:Sh!t ending to an otherwise good storyline.

How was this a shit ending? It had closure, something other series didn't have.



It just had a ridiculous ending.
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:27am CDT
Cyclonus43 wrote:
viruscarnage wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:Sh!t ending to an otherwise good storyline.

How was this a shit ending? It had closure, something other series didn't have.



It just had a ridiculous ending.


What was so ridiculous about it? Autobots finally defeat the Decepticons. They've been doing it since forever.
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Posted by RAcast on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:31am CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:
viruscarnage wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:Sh!t ending to an otherwise good storyline.

How was this a shit ending? It had closure, something other series didn't have.



It just had a ridiculous ending.


What was so ridiculous about it? Autobots finally defeat the Decepticons. They've been doing it since forever.

He won't be happy until the Decepticons win. :lol: No use arguing over it with him.
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:37am CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:Yes, because showing affection toward comrades you've fought beside for years is certainly a taboo
act.

Tell me; do you have any friends? If so, you too have experienced a similar "love fest."


Good way to take my point out of context. It had nothing to do with the "love fest" you're referring to, it has to do with the writers "love fest" toward making the Autobots so superior and the Decepticons turn into idiots.

:lol:

Yeah, you must be having a bad day to compare this to that.


Why??? Both endings took about 7 minutes to dispose of all the bad guys....really????

Kid, an episode is built around writing, storytelling, and character development, something "Deadlock" delivered well. It's not built around how much you hate a character because your local Wal-Mart overstocked him. :roll:


Kid eh? Tell me old timer, how old are you? Then we'll determine who the "kid" is.

I love how you condescending fans always post obvious stuff like you're suddenly opening everyone's eyes to what goes on in a TV show.

I don't hate him because he sits on the shelf at Walmart, I hate him because he went from a "scout" to this utterly ridiculous unstoppable robot. He's the John Cena of Transformers.

Oh here we go with this bull again. :BANG_HEAD:


Yeah, heaven forbid anyone have a different opinion. I understand the necessity to have humans involved, but now they give them the bumblebee treatment.

I mean c'mon, Soundwave survives battles with Airachnid and Wheeljack, he escapes Autobot capture, and then of all things, he's all of a sudden going to turn dumb and get out-smarted by a couple of brats????
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:43am CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:
viruscarnage wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:Sh!t ending to an otherwise good storyline.

How was this a shit ending? It had closure, something other series didn't have.



It just had a ridiculous ending.


What was so ridiculous about it? Autobots finally defeat the Decepticons. They've been doing it since forever.


I understand this, I'm just saying that pretty much anywhere since the 2nd movie came out, the "end fights" are usually pretty simple.

There was hardly any equality in the actions. I NEVER once felt that the Decepticons had a chance of coming close to winning, ever. But I guess you can credit Bay's vision of the Transformers in the movies for that, but even in this series, there was never a feeling like the Decepticons had a chance, and to me, that's just a waste of story time. If you don't feel the good guys are going to have a problem dealing with the bad guys when they finally decide to, it's a waste.
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:44am CDT
RAcast wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:
viruscarnage wrote:
Cyclonus43 wrote:Sh!t ending to an otherwise good storyline.

How was this a shit ending? It had closure, something other series didn't have.



It just had a ridiculous ending.


What was so ridiculous about it? Autobots finally defeat the Decepticons. They've been doing it since forever.

He won't be happy until the Decepticons win. :lol: No use arguing over it with him.


No reason to be butthurt because not everyone shares your opinion.
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:47am CDT
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Posted by PrymeStriker on July 27th, 2013 @ 12:13pm CDT
Cyclonus43 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Yes, because showing affection toward comrades you've fought beside for years is certainly a taboo
act.

Tell me; do you have any friends? If so, you too have experienced a similar "love fest."


Good way to take my point out of context. It had nothing to do with the "love fest" you're referring to, it has to do with the writers "love fest" toward making the Autobots so superior and the Decepticons turn into idiots.


Damn the day the Autobots win the final battle...

If that's your beef, you might as well quit Transformers now.

Why??? Both endings took about 7 minutes to dispose of all the bad guys....really????


The difference:

In DOTM, the Autobots killed all of the Decepticons mercilessly without moral.

In Prime, only Megatron died (epically) and the rest were cleverly disposed of without death, most without any interference of the Autobots. Soundwave trapped in the Shadowzone, Starscream and Shockwave's escape, Knock Out's side-switch, and (though 5 episodes ago) Airachnid's improsonment on one of Cybertron's moon.

Kid eh? Tell me old timer, how old are you? Then we'll determine who the "kid" is.


I call everyone "kid."

I love how you condescending fans always post obvious stuff like you're suddenly opening everyone's eyes to what goes on in a TV show.


I am an aspiring writer myself, and none of your complaints attack what really matters in telling and ending a story. Most of what you're complaining about is a bunch of Decepticon-fanatic tantrum kibble.

I don't hate him because he sits on the shelf at Walmart, I hate him because he went from a "scout" to this utterly ridiculous unstoppable robot.


Yes, because in Prime, he was no match compared to Breakdown, Shockwave, MECH, and Knock Out. He just slaughtered them all, right?

I fail to see your point. Bumblebee only crushes the Vehicons, who are terrible fighters themselves. The only 'cons he's snuffed are Skyquake and Megatron, both were mostly unexpected strategical attacks. Do you think brawn conquers strategy on the field?

Oh here we go with this bull again. :BANG_HEAD:


Yeah, heaven forbid anyone have a different opinion. I understand the necessity to have humans involved, but now they give them the bumblebee treatment.


The "bull" I'm referring to is the fancry cliché that "GAWWWW HUMANS AREE ANNNOYING STUUPID SHOW."

I mean c'mon, Soundwave survives battles with Airachnid and Wheeljack, he escapes Autobot capture, and then of all things, he's all of a sudden going to turn dumb and get out-smarted by a couple of brats????


With Wheeljack and Airachnid, Soundwave had strategical advantage. Soundwave has no idea what the Shadowzone was 'nor was he aware that the humans were going to trap him.

You think characters just know everything that goes on and can stop everything in every circumstance? That's called being overpowered, which makes for the worst storytelling ever. :roll:
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 12:32pm CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:Damn the day the Autobots win the final battle...

If that's your beef, you might as well quit Transformers now.


Again, for some reason, you miss my point. THERE WAS NEVER A POINT WHERE THE STORY MADE YOU THINK THE DECEPTICONS EVEN HAD A CHANCE. That's shitty writing.

In DOTM, the Autobots killed all of the Decepticons mercilessly without moral.

In Prime, only Megatron died (epically) and the rest were cleverly disposed of without death, most without any interference of the Autobots. Soundwave trapped in the Shadowzone, Starscream and Shockwave's escape, Knock Out's side-switch, and (though 5 episodes ago) Airachnid's improsonment on the moon.


For a writer, you're not much of a reader. I never said anything about "killed of death", I said "disposed", which covered any case in which a Decepticon was eliminated (Soundwave, Shockwave, Starscream) or met their ending (TF3 Soundwave, Shockwave, Sentinal and Megatron all being killed in a matter of 4-5 minutes).

I call everyone "kid." Quit taking things so literally for a change.


I've hardly posted on here. Sorry I don't follow all your posts to know you meant otherwise.


I am an aspiring writer myself, and none of your complaints attack what really matters in telling and ending a story. Most of what you're complaining about is a bunch of Decepticon-fanatic tantrum kibble.


I'll simply refer you to the point I made in caps. I don't mind the Autobots winning, I simply have the problem with having never felt like it was in doubt.

Yes, because in Prime, he was no match compared to Breakdown, Shockwave, MECH, and Knock Out. He just slaughtered them all, right?


But he survived them, against foes that should have crushed him.

I fail to see your point. Bumblebee only crushes the Vehicons, who are terrible fighters themselves. The only 'cons he's snuffed are Skyquake and Megatron, both were mostly unexpected strategical attacks. Do you think brawn conquers strategy on the field?


Strategic or not, making him the reason that 2 of the more powerful Decepticons get taken out is silly, why not have him strategically take out Predaking as well?

No I don't think Brawn ALWAYS conquers strategy, but if you go up against it often enough, the chances of a different outcome start to rise. Never felt like anything was going to happen, simply go on happily ever after.

The "bull" I'm referring to is the fancry cliché that "GAWWWW HUMANS AREE ANNNOYING STUUPID SHOW."


So when someone has a different opinion, it's a fancry cliche?

With Wheeljack and Airachnid, Soundwave had strategical advantage. Soundwave has no idea what the Shadowzone was 'nor was he aware that the humans were going to trap him.

You think characters just know everything that goes on and can stop everything in every circumstance? That's called being overpowered, which makes for the worst storytelling ever. :roll:


As calculating as Soundwave was during the entire show's span, they turned him into an idiot for the last 20 seconds he's on the show. I KNEW something like that was going to happen as soon as the brats said they were going to the bridge. So Bumblebee can kill Skyquake and Megatron, that's okay, but Soundwave get's outsmarted by children? Good argument.

I just don't like it when you never feel the good guys are in trouble, it takes away any suspense or feeling in the show.

Look, it's a matter of opinion, I expressed mine, you don't like it, and I don't agree with yours, let's just move on.
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Posted by PrymeStriker on July 27th, 2013 @ 12:59pm CDT
Cyclonus43 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Damn the day the Autobots win the final battle...

If that's your beef, you might as well quit Transformers now.


Again, for some reason, you miss my point. THERE WAS NEVER A POINT WHERE THE STORY MADE YOU THINK THE DECEPTICONS EVEN HAD A CHANCE.


In what world do the Decepticons EVER have a chance? The Autobots always win, in every continuity, in every installment, that's not Shattered Glass. If you expected the Decepticons to win or even wanted them to have a chance, then you clearly haven't experienced Transformers enough.

For a writer, you're not much of a reader. I never said anything about "killed of death", I said "disposed", which covered any case in which a Decepticon met his fate or ending.


The Decepticons are always disposed of in the end. :roll:

You're not much of a reader either. Only Megatron and Soundwave met an end. Starscream, Shockwave, Knock Out, and Airachnid are still very much active and will likely be put to use in the "Predacons Rising" movie.


I'll simply refer you to the point I made in caps. I don't mind the Autobots winning, I simply have the problem with having never felt like it was in doubt.


There's never a doubt the Autobots will win in any Transformers series. Again, if that's your beef, Transformers is not the franchise for you.

but he survived them,


Because killing off one of your biggest characters is a smart business move.

Bumblebee is to Transformers as Applejack is to MLP or Michaelangelo is to TMNT. You don't just throw away one of your biggest characters.

against foes that should have crushed him.


Getting crushed =/= death. You're very narrow-minded if you think Bumblebee didn't get his bee-hind beat by Knock Out or Shockwave.

I fail to see your point. Bumblebee only crushes the Vehicons, who are terrible fighters themselves. The only 'cons he's snuffed are Skyquake and Megatron, both were mostly unexpected strategical attacks. Do you think brawn conquers strategy on the field?


Strategic or not, making him the reason that 2 of the more powerful Decepticons get taken out is silly, why not have him strategically take out Predaking as well?


Because Predaking is both Brain and Brawn. Megatron and Skyquake were all brawn and no brain. Especially with Megatron - he was so cocky that he killed Bumblebee that he didn't expect him to stab him in the chest. If you shot someone three times in the heart, would YOU expect them to get up and shove a knife in yours?

The "bull" I'm referring to is the fancry cliché that "GAWWWW HUMANS AREE ANNNOYING STUUPID SHOW."


So when someone has a different opinion, it's a fancry cliche?


When something is repeatedand overdone, it is a cliché. Hate towards humans have existed in the fandom for 30 years, and by now, it is cliché.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but how long have you been a fan of Transformers? You seem to be missing out on some of the major points of the fandom and franchise.

As calculating as Soundwave was during the entire show's span, they turned him into an idiot for the last 20 seconds he's on the show.


Okay, smarty pants. How would you propose Soundwave was to know another bridge was to open behind him? Please, step into Soundwave's shoes and devise how Soundwave was to focus on getting Miko out of his way and detecting 0.5 second Ground Bridge activation MILES away and avoid being sucked into the two portals into the Shadowzone.

I just don't like it when you never feel the good guys are in trouble, it takes away any suspense or feeling in the show.

Look, it's a matter of opinion, I expressed mine, you don't like it, and I don't agree with yours, let's just move on.


I don't like it either - I don't bash the whole episode for not catering to my "Bad Guy Fan" needs. I become objective when watching these episodes. It probably helps me from studying the elements of storytelling, but I'm certain every Transformers fan watching this had no doubt the Autobots were going to win.
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Posted by CaptainMagic on July 27th, 2013 @ 1:16pm CDT
I'll definitely jump on the "didn't like it" bandwagon, because the tone was all wrong for me. Megatron's death, the restoration of Cybertron, and the Autobots' exit all seemed really lacking in excitement, which is the only thing I was really looking for. The only moment where I was thinking "Hell yeah, that was awesome" was the part where Bumblebee died, and that was clearly not the intent.

Basically, what they needed to do was just shorten up all of the sad parts. Bumblebee's death did not need to stretch all the way across a commercial break, Megatron didn't need to stare in impotent outrage for forever before he died, and, while I get the tearful good bye, I don't really think they needed it at all, especially because they have easy means of traveling back and forth. This wasn't "good-bye forever", this was "see you later", and I personally have never been one to get all weepy over that.

Oh well, we do still have a bit further to go, so hopefully Predacons Rising will be the big finale I wanted.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on July 27th, 2013 @ 5:17pm CDT
I too didn't quite think the episode stacked up as to what it could have been.
Don't get me wrong, it was still a cool episode, and I like the show in general, but I agree with those that say that a feeling of danger was lacking. It's a show for kids though, so keeping that in mind, they still kept the onscreen action interesting.

I think I would have liked to see some casualties. Have at least one Autobot actually die, and then the death of Megatron feels like it actually came at some cost. When I thought BumbleBee died, I was freaking ecstatic. This would have made up for all the lucky wins for the Autobots in the show, and given the show some real strength as an unformulaic sci fi. Alas, it wasn't to be.

What would have been great is if the Decepticons killed off most of the Autobots except for 2-3, and those few are the ones who manage to kill Megatron. Make it seem like a real, extremely difficult challenge, so that when "Megatron is no more" is heard, the viewers go, daaaamnn.... that was intense, didn't think they were going to do it, but they did. This would also help with the quick defeat of Soundwave, and make it more palatable.

Perhaps I ask too much from TF Prime. Oh well. The way things played out made sense, like Soundwave being put into the Shadowzone. It's not like Soundwave would have had a chance in a fight against the apex armour anyway. They had to try and outsmart him, so whatever, it works. They could have gone a different route to show more of a battle with Soundwave, which I would have preferred, but again, its TF Prime, not the comics or anything for a more adult audience.

I want to see Predaking go on more killing rampages since he's damn near invincible :twisted:
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Posted by Cyclonus43 on July 27th, 2013 @ 10:04pm CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:In what world do the Decepticons EVER have a chance? The Autobots always win, in every continuity, in every installment, that's not Shattered Glass. If you expected the Decepticons to win or even wanted them to have a chance, then you clearly haven't experienced Transformers enough.


I guess having a different opinion isn't enough for you, you have to try and shove your holier than thou opinion in my face constantly, as if in some way to make me feel my opinion is wrong.

The Decepticons are always disposed of in the end. :roll:

You're not much of a reader either. Only Megatron and Soundwave met an end. Starscream, Shockwave, Knock Out, and Airachnid are still very much active and will likely be put to use in the "Predacons Rising" movie.


It's truly a shame that you continue to take my words for what ever meaning you'd like them to have.

After explaining the word "dispose" in the sense I was using it, it was clear what I meant.


Because killing off one of your biggest characters is a smart business move.

Bumblebee is to Transformers as Applejack is to MLP or Michaelangelo is to TMNT. You don't just throw away one of your biggest characters.

Getting crushed =/= death. You're very narrow-minded if you think Bumblebee didn't get his bee-hind beat by Knock Out or Shockwave.


Fine, then let Megatron lose to Optimus as it should be, not to a mumbling excuse to over-produce merchandise.

So he got beat up, again, it's not like there was ever a chance anything more would happen.

Because Predaking is both Brain and Brawn. Megatron and Skyquake were all brawn and no brain. Especially with Megatron - he was so cocky that he killed Bumblebee that he didn't expect him to stab him in the chest. If you shot someone three times in the heart, would YOU expect them to get up and shove a knife in yours?


Not if it was anyone other than the golden idol of the franchise, no. If it was anyone else, realistically, then yes, I expect them to die.

When something is repeatedand overdone, it is a cliché. Hate towards humans have existed in the fandom for 30 years, and by now, it is cliché.


Again, I have NO PROBLEM with humans being the shows, open your fucking eyes already.

I have a problem with a bunch of brats taking down Decepticons like it was nothing.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but how long have you been a fan of Transformers? You seem to be missing out on some of the major points of the fandom and franchise.


I would have to say going on 30 years. But more for the concept, not the reality. To me, the original Transformers the movie (1986) was a perfect example of making it seem like the Autobots didn't have a chance, which in turn, makes the outcome that much more enjoyable. Knowing that the bad guys haven't a chance, makes it dull and repetitive.

Okay, smarty pants. How would you propose Soundwave was to know another bridge was to open behind him? Please, step into Soundwave's shoes and devise how Soundwave was to focus on getting Miko out of his way and detecting 0.5 second Ground Bridge activation MILES away and avoid being sucked into the two portals into the Shadowzone.


He didn't have to know, but to have him stand there, rather than walk into his own bridge, was absolutely stupid. He just stood there watching the other bridge get closer.

I don't like it either - I don't bash the whole episode for not catering to my "Bad Guy Fan" needs. I become objective when watching these episodes. It probably helps me from studying the elements of storytelling, but I'm certain every Transformers fan watching this had no doubt the Autobots were going to win.


That's fine that you're an Autobot homer, that never expects the bad guys do do anything even remotely threatening. If you don't put the good guys into adverse situations, or ones that you actually feel they're in jeopardy or fighting against the odds, then why bother with the goody 2 shoes stories if you always know the inevitable outcome?

Again, just accept my opinion as mine and not yours and move on, you WILL NOT change my opinion, nor will you make me feel bad or inferior for having it. Move on.
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 27th, 2013 @ 11:00pm CDT
I am going to intervene for a second here.

Cyclonus43 wrote:It's truly a shame that you continue to take my words for what ever meaning you'd like them to have.

After explaining the word "dispose" in the sense I was using it, it was clear what I meant


Was it? I was taking it the same way Pryme was and I'm an outside observer.

So he got beat up, again, it's not like there was ever a chance anything more would happen.


Really? was this not a chance?

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Not if it was anyone other than the golden idol of the franchise, no. If it was anyone else, realistically, then yes, I expect them to die.


Real life situation; You are trying to protect your house and family from a dangerous threat, somebody attempts to give his leader a giant sword, you shoot him in the chest 3 times with a 82 A1. Do you expect him to stand back up and stab your with a sword that he can barely lift?

I have a problem with a bunch of brats taking down Decepticons like it was nothing.


Why do you have a problem with this? He got outsmarted by intelligent life forms.

He didn't have to know, but to have him stand there, rather than walk into his own bridge, was absolutely stupid. He just stood there watching the other bridge get closer.


It wouldn't have mattered, if he would have went in the bridge it still would have taken him to the Shadowzone.

That's fine that you're an Autobot homer, that never expects the bad guys do do anything even remotely threatening.

Actually last week Pryme wasn't happy at the fact that the Autobots weren't being put in certain situations like that.

then why bother with the goody 2 shoes stories if you always know the inevitable outcome?

Because he wants to see the badass fight scenes ;)
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Posted by PrymeStriker on July 28th, 2013 @ 12:38am CDT
Cyclonus43 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:In what world do the Decepticons EVER have a chance? The Autobots always win, in every continuity, in every installment, that's not Shattered Glass. If you expected the Decepticons to win or even wanted them to have a chance, then you clearly haven't experienced Transformers enough.


I guess having a different opinion isn't enough for you, you have to try and shove your holier than thou opinion in my face constantly, as if in some way to make me feel my opinion is wrong.


This is not my opinion...this is evidence from 30 years of Transformers fiction. The Decepticons have never come out on top or remotely had a chance. The 1986 movie was great for bringing Autobots down, but we all knew the Autobots were going to miraculously pull through the waging war in the end.

The Decepticons are always disposed of in the end. :roll:

You're not much of a reader either. Only Megatron and Soundwave met an end. Starscream, Shockwave, Knock Out, and Airachnid are still very much active and will likely be put to use in the "Predacons Rising" movie.


It's truly a shame that you continue to take my words for what ever meaning you'd like them to have.

After explaining the word "dispose" in the sense I was using it, it was clear what I meant.


Because killing off one of your biggest characters is a smart business move.

Bumblebee is to Transformers as Applejack is to MLP or Michaelangelo is to TMNT. You don't just throw away one of your biggest characters.

Getting crushed =/= death. You're very narrow-minded if you think Bumblebee didn't get his bee-hind beat by Knock Out or Shockwave.


Fine, then let Megatron lose to Optimus as it should be, not to a mumbling excuse to over-produce merchandise.

So he got beat up, again, it's not like there was ever a chance anything more would happen


Viruscarnage took care of this for me.
Not if it was anyone other than the golden idol of the franchise, no. If it was anyone else, realistically, then yes, I expect them to die.


Yes, you'd expect them to die....realistically. Especially since mortality in Transformers Prime is more realistic with the average joes (Cliffjumper anyone?) than any other series. Megatron expected Bumblebee to be dead. To us, Bumblebee was gonna get up. Megatron can't read the wikis, bro. Realistically, Megatron was caught off guard, and realistically, Megatron died because of a surprise attack nobody BEHIND THE FOURTH WALL expected.


Again, I have NO PROBLEM with humans being the shows, open your **** eyes already.


:roll:

You're being very ignorant. You already explained yourself to me in this regard. Why are you re-hashing it? You were comparing apples and oranges (clichés and opinions), I try to readjust you, and you wanna cuss me out.



He didn't have to know, but to have him stand there, rather than walk into his own bridge, was absolutely stupid. He just stood there watching the other bridge get closer.


Ah...

Re-watch "Shadowzone."

It didn't matter what bridge Soundwave walked through; BOTH bridges were pulling him and BOTH bridges would have sent him into the Shadowzone. There was NOTHING Soundwave could do.
I don't like it either - I don't bash the whole episode for not catering to my "Bad Guy Fan" needs. I become objective when watching these episodes. It probably helps me from studying the elements of storytelling, but I'm certain every Transformers fan watching this had no doubt the Autobots were going to win.


That's fine that you're an Autobot homer,


Wait.

Think.

Faction: Decepticon

Signature: Decepticons

Quote above: "I don't like it [Decepticons losing easily] either" & "I don't bash the whole episode for not catering to >my "Bad Guy Fan" needs<"

All this = Autobot homer?

WHHHHAAAAAAAA?

that never expects the bad guys do do anything even remotely threatening.


THE DECEPTICONS HAVE BEEN THREATING ALL SERIES LONG!! What more do you want?!?!?!

If you don't put the good guys into adverse situations, or ones that you actually feel they're in jeopardy or fighting against the odds, then why bother with the goody 2 shoes stories if you always know the inevitable outcome?


I don't know - Optimus hanging off the Nemesis without flight capability and thousands upon thousands of kilometers to fall to his death with Megatron ready to butcher his hands off seemed rather dangerous to me

Again, just accept my opinion as mine and not yours and move on, you WILL NOT change my opinion, nor will you make me feel bad or inferior for having it. Move on.


I'm not trying to change your opinion. I'm trying to get some valid reasoning out of it through discussion (on discussion board).
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on July 28th, 2013 @ 3:14am CDT
A lot of Autobots died in the Animated movie. Being a kid I didn't know the Autobots would win. As an adult, I'm sure I would have, but damn, death was fairly embedded throughout the movie. Hey, Starscream died too, it isn't just Autobot hate. It's just a longing to finally see Transformers reach that status where it's, dare I say, evolving into something more, and something real. So, in other words, non-formulaic. Maybe one day.

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