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Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes

Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes

Wednesday, January 15th, 2014 1:31AM CST

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Beast Hunters Voyager Class Optimus Prime and Beast Hunters Voyager Class Predaking are now available for pre-order. Both retail for $19.99, and show that they will be shipping on or around February 2, 2014.

Also of note at Hasbro Toy Shop are listings for the Generations Deluxe Class Waspinator, Generations Deluxe Class Dreadwing, and Generations Deluxe Class Goldfire. Each of these three figures lists a price of $14.99.

UPDATE: The three Deluxe figures are now ready for pre-order, with an estimated release date of 3rd February!

Check out all of the figures below!

Beast Hunters Voyager Class Optimus Prime
Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking

Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking
Beast Hunters Voyager Class Predaking
Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking

Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking
Generations Deluxe Class Waspinator
Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking

Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking
Generations Deluxe Class Dreadwing
Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking

Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking
Generations Deluxe Class Goldfire
Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking

Transformers News: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking
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Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542049)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 15th, 2014 @ 1:41am CST
great deluxes are going back up to $15, screw you hasbro
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542054)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 15th, 2014 @ 2:27am CST
Is it just me or should have the simplified line been released in time for Christmas? These would've been perfect for holiday purchasing?
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542055)
Posted by Bounti76 on January 15th, 2014 @ 2:30am CST
Megatron Wolf wrote:great deluxes are going back up to $15, screw you hasbro


I wouldn't get your shorts in a bunch just yet. This is ONE online retailer. Any Wal-Mart or Target I've checked recently has them for $9.99 or less.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542081)
Posted by noctorro on January 15th, 2014 @ 4:36am CST
Keep complaining muricans, Deluxes are 20 euros (27,27 dollars) here on the other side of the atlantic.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542086)
Posted by shockblast2 on January 15th, 2014 @ 7:12am CST
Who cares what they cost elsewhere? The majority of us are in the US and $14.99 for a deluxe is ridiculous.

Furthermore, using your slur to insult Americans in general just because you are taxed out the rear in Europe and pay more for toys is pretty low.


Definition of Muricans - An impolite way of saying "American" (or a polite way of saying "Americunt") while wanting to project a sense to dislike towards that country
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542088)
Posted by shockblast2 on January 15th, 2014 @ 7:34am CST
Bounti76 wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:great deluxes are going back up to $15, screw you hasbro


I wouldn't get your shorts in a bunch just yet. This is ONE online retailer. Any Wal-Mart or Target I've checked recently has them for $9.99 or less.



HTS might be the only place to score Generations figures after TF4 and the new cartoon comes out. With that said you are correct about the big box store prices. And we all know when the movie comes out they will be about that price as the movie lines will cause much more demand for the line. Which in time passed has kept the deluxe price right around what you said.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542098)
Posted by Primeultimus on January 15th, 2014 @ 8:12am CST
Any chance of me getting a news credit? I did post this several Hours ahead of this post.


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Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542101)
Posted by Primeultimus on January 15th, 2014 @ 8:16am CST
Any chance I can get a news credit on this please?

I did happen to post it first

Thanks

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Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542134)
Posted by Joetx on January 15th, 2014 @ 10:54am CST
shockblast2 wrote:Who cares what they cost elsewhere? The majority of us are in the US and $14.99 for a deluxe is ridiculous.

Furthermore, using your slur to insult Americans in general just because you are taxed out the rear in Europe and pay more for toys is pretty low.


Definition of Muricans - An impolite way of saying "American" (or a polite way of saying "Americunt") while wanting to project a sense to dislike towards that country


Don't get your panties in a bunch.

And you don't help your case any by not caring where the figures cost elsewhere in the world - self-centered much?

Besides, sadly 'muricans is an appropriate slur b/c we got A LOT of ignoramuses here.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542135)
Posted by Joetx on January 15th, 2014 @ 10:55am CST
Bounti76 wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:great deluxes are going back up to $15, screw you hasbro


I wouldn't get your shorts in a bunch just yet. This is ONE online retailer. Any Wal-Mart or Target I've checked recently has them for $9.99 or less.


I think those were Christmas prices. It's likely the big box retailers will raise them up again, if they haven't already.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542136)
Posted by GuyIncognito on January 15th, 2014 @ 11:00am CST
If $15 is too much, get a new hobby.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542138)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on January 15th, 2014 @ 11:05am CST
Joetx wrote:And you don't help your case any by not caring where the figures cost elsewhere in the world - self-centered much?


Not really, you're just being extra-sensitive about it.

American fans caring or not caring about what you pay doesn't affect or change your prices and never will. Those of us that are sympathetic will be and often state our sympathies, but it doesn't help us be sympathetic when you RoW members are in every thread complaining, griping, and jumping down our throats about us kvetching over our own prices here.

We have every right to complain about what we pay, just as you have every right to complain that your prices are even higher, but if you want Americans to care, stop acting like we're spoiled for doing exactly what you're doing just because we pay less. We don't control your prices(much less our own) and we can't change any of it.

We can only really complain about what WE experience, anything else is disingenuous. Those that don't care what you pay do so because it's not something they need to worry about. We all have enough in our lives to worry about without adding "Man, this price sucks, I wonder how much more it sucks for so-and-so because they're somewhere else".

I mean, we can talk unfair to other countries in hobbies, like Games Workshop banning intercontinental sales of their products for Australian so that their forced to pay 3x as much as RoW and not given the chance to import from the US or UK for the cheaper price.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542142)
Posted by njb902 on January 15th, 2014 @ 11:21am CST
Midnight_Fox wrote:
Joetx wrote:And you don't help your case any by not caring where the figures cost elsewhere in the world - self-centered much?


Not really, you're just being extra-sensitive about it.

American fans caring or not caring about what you pay doesn't affect or change your prices and never will. Those of us that are sympathetic will be and often state our sympathies, but it doesn't help us be sympathetic when you RoW members are in every thread complaining, griping, and jumping down our throats about us kvetching over our own prices here.

We have every right to complain about what we pay, just as you have every right to complain that your prices are even higher, but if you want Americans to care, stop acting like we're spoiled for doing exactly what you're doing just because we pay less. We don't control your prices(much less our own) and we can't change any of it.

We can only really complain about what WE experience, anything else is disingenuous. Those that don't care what you pay do so because it's not something they need to worry about. We all have enough in our lives to worry about without adding "Man, this price sucks, I wonder how much more it sucks for so-and-so because they're somewhere else".

I mean, we can talk unfair to other countries in hobbies, like Games Workshop banning intercontinental sales of their products for Australian so that their forced to pay 3x as much as RoW and not given the chance to import from the US or UK for the cheaper price.


Empathy, it's not what's for dinner.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542146)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on January 15th, 2014 @ 11:42am CST
njb902 wrote:
Empathy, it's not what's for dinner.


Majority of the time, I'm very empathetic to my RoW comrades and try to help them out when I can(including in the past eating the entirety of the shipping cost for friends on wargame boards to get them items that never made it over there).

However, the amount of complaining about American vs RoW prices(to the point where it's brought up in ANY thread where price is mentioned) in the past couple weeks is getting very tiring(not just here, it's something I'mm seeing very regularyl on several boards for various hobbies lately), especially as it's over things no one on the boards can control. In addition, the tone of Joetx's post made it one that needed to be addressed.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542149)
Posted by Primeultimus on January 15th, 2014 @ 11:55am CST
Waspinator , Goldfire and Dreadwing Deluxe Pre Orders are live at Hasbro Toy Shop!!!

Waspinator http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transforme ... 6&ID=32748
Goldfire http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transforme ... 6&ID=32750
Dreadwing http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transforme ... 6&ID=32750
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542153)
Posted by Autobot032 on January 15th, 2014 @ 12:07pm CST
Guys. Just stop. I don't have the patience for this today. Do not derail another news thread with a "mine's bigger" contest. Snap out of it, right now.

Noctorro, quit being offensive.
Shickbkast2, you've been a rabblerouser in the past.

Both of you stop it.

Primeultimus, we'll get on it.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542155)
Posted by El Duque on January 15th, 2014 @ 12:11pm CST
Primeultimus wrote:Any chance of me getting a news credit? I did post this several Hours ahead of this post.


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Actually bossman328 beat everyone ;)

I've consolidated all the topics on this subject into this one. Thanks to all who posted.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542179)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 15th, 2014 @ 2:23pm CST
This is what happens when such a negative nancy is the first person to comment about a news post. :roll:
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542183)
Posted by mooncake623 on January 15th, 2014 @ 2:36pm CST
I shall buy this Prediking once HTS gets more stuff in stock.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542204)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on January 15th, 2014 @ 4:25pm CST
Hopefully this means the simplified Deluxes will be along soon.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542240)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 15th, 2014 @ 7:06pm CST
Hmmm...odd that Skidz isn't listed on there at all. He was released in the same wave as Goldfire Bumblebee, right? I don't think he sold out already, as the listing would still be there, just marked as out of stock. Although, deluxe BH Prowl is completely missing now too. I had been hoping he'd come back in stock, as I have yet to see that wave ANYWHERE in my area.

I wonder if these two "simplified" BH voyagers and the four "simplified" BH deluxes will be a one off thing for the end of the Prime toyline, or if we'll see another assortment or two squeezed in before the new cartoon hits.

For that matter, I would really like to know if the new cartoon, although taking things in a much different direction in terms of tone as compared to Prime, will at least retain the same aesthetic. I was under the impression at first that Prime was the beginning of this new "modern/aligned" continuity for the brand. I expected that I would be building a brand new universe of related figures, but if I can't reasonably display the new cartoon line with Prime, I'll sell off my Prime FE/RiD/BH(PR) collection and be done with it, just like I sold off my movie figures after the let down that was the DotM toyline.

</end rambling>
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542255)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 15th, 2014 @ 8:09pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:For that matter, I would really like to know if the new cartoon, although taking things in a much different direction in terms of tone as compared to Prime, will at least retain the same aesthetic. I was under the impression at first that Prime was the beginning of this new "modern/aligned" continuity for the brand. I expected that I would be building a brand new universe of related figures, but if I can't reasonably display the new cartoon line with Prime, I'll sell off my Prime FE/RiD/BH(PR) collection and be done with it, just like I sold off my movie figures after the let down that was the DotM toyline.
WFC was the beginning of the Aligned Continuity. The reason the Aligned games, cartoons, comics, etc. all have aesthetics from each other is because Hasbro doesn't give two cents about aesthetic consistency like we fans do. It's more of a fan concern than a company one.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542262)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 15th, 2014 @ 8:30pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:WFC was the beginning of the Aligned Continuity. The reason the Aligned games, cartoons, comics, etc. all have aesthetics from each other is because Hasbro doesn't give two cents about aesthetic consistency like we fans do. It's more of a fan concern than a company one.


Which is why this fan is close to giving up on a proper "aligned" toyline to collect for years to come. I'll keep an eye out for the odd figure that can be repurposed for my Classics/Neo-G1 collection, but that's about it.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542268)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 15th, 2014 @ 9:05pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:WFC was the beginning of the Aligned Continuity. The reason the Aligned games, cartoons, comics, etc. all have aesthetics from each other is because Hasbro doesn't give two cents about aesthetic consistency like we fans do. It's more of a fan concern than a company one.


Which is why this fan is close to giving up on a proper "aligned" toyline to collect for years to come. I'll keep an eye out for the odd figure that can be repurposed for my Classics/Neo-G1 collection, but that's about it.
Well, the differences between each portion are essentially as distinctive as the toylines of other "sequel" series. Beast Wars and Beast Machines are one continuity but with separate aesthetics, Armada/Energon/Cybertron are one continuity with three aesthetics, etc. etc.

Like how there's no single toyline for those, there's no single Aligned toyline either. Two Beast Era toylines, three Unicron Trilogy toylines, and three Aligned toylines (Generations "WFC/FOC", Prime, and Rescue Bots). ;)
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542293)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 15th, 2014 @ 10:17pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Well, the differences between each portion are essentially as distinctive as the toylines of other "sequel" series. Beast Wars and Beast Machines are one continuity but with separate aesthetics, Armada/Energon/Cybertron are one continuity with three aesthetics, etc. etc.

Like how there's no single toyline for those, there's no single Aligned toyline either. Two Beast Era toylines, three Unicron Trilogy toylines, and three Aligned toylines (Generations "WFC/FOC", Prime, and Rescue Bots). ;)


True, but the Unicon Trillogy toys are a LOT close together in aesthetics than any of the aligned continuity toylines so far. You can put them together on a shelf and pick your favorite representation of characters that got several different versions, and they will more or less look coherent together. Even with Beast Machines, you could almost ignore the Maximal molds completely and stick in the Vehicons with the few new characters and your favorite character representations from Beast Wars proper to round out that "shelf" if you wish (Before any Beast Machines fans cry out in rage, I assure you, I say most of this with tongue in cheek). ;)

Also, I don't think many fans want to mix in the WfC/FoC figures or the Rescue Bots figures with their Prime displays. WfC and Foc were always designed with G1 aesthetics in mind, even if it's a part of the "aligned" continuity. The fact that those character designs are for Cybertronian forms, where Prime is mostly earth-based vehicles, just makes that distinction all the easier for fans to make. Finally, there's plenty overlap between the character rosters of each toyline. Add in a Prime version of Sideswipe, Jazz, and maybe Blaster, and you're good to go, really. Rescue Bots is just its own thing for its own target demo, regardless of being (nominally) part of the aligned continuity.

It would be nice if the next cartoon could at least "fit" alongside Prime, even if it does something a little different with the look or theme, much as how I described the compatibility of the Unicron Trilogy toylines, despite their distinctions from one another.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542294)
Posted by ILL-Star on January 15th, 2014 @ 10:23pm CST
For as big as those voyagers are, $20 seems like a good price. I know its just marketing, but giving that much for $20 compared to what you get for $13 doesn't make sense.

Also, I'm not sure Hasbrotoyshop ever dropped the higher Deluxe class price tag. So, to say that the prices are going back up again seems a tad hasty.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542366)
Posted by shockblast2 on January 16th, 2014 @ 8:23am CST
Joetx wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Who cares what they cost elsewhere? The majority of us are in the US and $14.99 for a deluxe is ridiculous.

Furthermore, using your slur to insult Americans in general just because you are taxed out the rear in Europe and pay more for toys is pretty low.


Definition of Muricans - An impolite way of saying "American" (or a polite way of saying "Americunt") while wanting to project a sense to dislike towards that country


Don't get your panties in a bunch.

And you don't help your case any by not caring where the figures cost elsewhere in the world - self-centered much?

Besides, sadly 'muricans is an appropriate slur b/c we got A LOT of ignoramuses here.



Why would any American care what they cost in Timbuktu? Do we live there? NO.

And no, it is not an appropriate thing to say to anyone. You call the majority of people here idiots. All but you right?

Only a moron runs their mouth in that fashion.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542367)
Posted by shockblast2 on January 16th, 2014 @ 8:27am CST
ILL-Star wrote:For as big as those voyagers are, $20 seems like a good price. I know its just marketing, but giving that much for $20 compared to what you get for $13 doesn't make sense.

Also, I'm not sure Hasbrotoyshop ever dropped the higher Deluxe class price tag. So, to say that the prices are going back up again seems a tad hasty.



You are using a set of figures that have very minimal development costs. All they did was upsize the molds they already have, which is much cheaper than creating it from scratch. I know at Meijer they are 19.99 but the Generations voyagers are 24.99 and I think it is similar at Target. Might be 22.99 for them there though.

We will see when they TF4 figures come out. We might score cheaper deluxes because of volume, but I wager the voyagers will go up to 24.99 everywhere.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542369)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on January 16th, 2014 @ 8:36am CST
shockblast2 wrote:
ILL-Star wrote:For as big as those voyagers are, $20 seems like a good price. I know its just marketing, but giving that much for $20 compared to what you get for $13 doesn't make sense.

Also, I'm not sure Hasbrotoyshop ever dropped the higher Deluxe class price tag. So, to say that the prices are going back up again seems a tad hasty.



You are using a set of figures that have very minimal development costs. All they did was upsize the molds they already have, which is much cheaper than creating it from scratch.


True, but it's not KO-like upsizing. Rather, ball joints are replaced with universals and swivels, plus some details have been changed. Predaking is all-new, but it does take cues from Beast Fire and the Commander. Looking at it now, I'm skipping him.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542547)
Posted by Joetx on January 16th, 2014 @ 7:58pm CST
shockblast2 wrote:Why would any American care what they cost in Timbuktu? Do we live there? NO.

And no, it is not an appropriate thing to say to anyone. You call the majority of people here idiots. All but you right?

Only a moron runs their mouth in that fashion.


Ooh, you sure showed me!
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542555)
Posted by njb902 on January 16th, 2014 @ 8:30pm CST
Joetx wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Why would any American care what they cost in Timbuktu? Do we live there? NO.

And no, it is not an appropriate thing to say to anyone. You call the majority of people here idiots. All but you right?

Only a moron runs their mouth in that fashion.


Ooh, you sure showed me!


Well maybe he gave it as an example because of the civil war happening there. The city did fall to a rebel faction in 2012, though French and Malian forces retook it at the beginning of last year.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542566)
Posted by Burn on January 16th, 2014 @ 9:57pm CST
Gosh darn it you people! Autobot032 has already told you to knock it off. It's not nice to ignore staff members.

ON TOPIC NOW
Any further deviation ... well ... I'm going to be annoyed.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542588)
Posted by Noideaforaname on January 16th, 2014 @ 11:49pm CST
It's too bad they wasted these oversized versions of Cyberverse toys on characters that already flood the shelves. I mean, I guess they have to, 'cause marketing and popularity or whatever, but I'm sure just about everyone here* would've preferred a larger Insecticon or Breakdown (even if not the best quality) to yet another Optimus or Predaking.

* Yes, yes, I know "here" makes up maybe 10% of the sales. I don't care.


I also kinda wish they'd do the opposite size-change, Deluxe/Voyager to Cyberverse. Obviously a lot more work is involved, but I'd love to have a Legion Ripclaw and Lazerback and Grimwing to go with Abominus. Oh well, I'm sure AoE will give us plenty of little robot-dragon things to go with them...
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1542591)
Posted by RhA on January 17th, 2014 @ 12:00am CST
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Gee. This reminds me of how I want Waspy.
Re: Now Available at Hasbro Toy Shop: Beast Hunters Optimus Prime and Predaking, Generations Deluxes (1543149)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on January 19th, 2014 @ 12:30pm CST
Noideaforaname wrote:I also kinda wish they'd do the opposite size-change, Deluxe/Voyager to Cyberverse.


You haven't seen Universe 2008 Galvatron have you? He was planned as a Voyager, but shrunk down for marketing purposes ("too many tanks in the Voyager range already"). Look at how he turned out.
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