NYCC 2014 Coverage - Official Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Figure Class Descriptions
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TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEGENDS Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $9.99/Available: Spring 2015)
THE TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEGENDS assortment features classic TRANSFORMERS, re-imagined for the present day. Featuring the simplest conversion in the TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS line, these figures are the perfect introduction for kids ready to move up to the more sophisticated world of TRANSFORMERS Generations. They're also detailed enough to appeal to the most hardcore collector. Each figure can convert into a weapon or accessory for a TRANSFORMERS COMBINER figure (sold separately) and includes a Collector Card inspired by the TRANSFORMERS LEGENDS mobile game from DeNA. Figures in 2015 include HUFFER and BLACKJACK. Each sold separately.
TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available: Spring 2015)
Each TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE figure can be combined with three other DELUXE figures, one VOYAGER figure, and LEGENDS figures to form a larger TRANSFORMERS COMBINER robot. Each Deluxe figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and converts from vehicle to robot form, as well as into an arm or a leg of a larger COMBINER robot. Interchangeable parts allow you to create your own figure from any combination of COMBINER WARS LEGENDS, DELUXE, and VOYAGER. Each figure features incredible detail, classic style and conversion for a premium look and feel. 16 DELUXE figures will be available in 2015, each sold separately. Each Deluxe figure sold in the U.S. includes a full-size, full-length issue of IDW Publishing’s TRANSFORMERS: COMBINER WARS comic book series with an exclusive cover. Those figures sold outside of the U.S. include a Collector Card.
TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS VOYAGER Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $24.99/Available: May 2015)
Each TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE figure converts from robot to vehicle and also can be combined with four DELUXE figures and LEGEND figures (each sold separately) to form a larger TRANSFORMERS COMBINER robot. Interchangeable parts allow you to create your own figure from any combination of COMBINER WARS LEGENDS, DELUXE, and VOYAGER. Each VOYAGER scale figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and includes a Collector Card inspired by the TRANSFORMERS LEGENDS mobile game from DeNA. Each sold separately.
TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEADER Assortment
(Ages: 8 & up /Approx. Retail Price: $44.99/Available: Spring 2015)
The TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS line reaches its high point with TRANSFORMERS Generations Leader class figures! The most powerful and legendary characters are rendered in incredible detail and with impressive conversions. Each large, feature-packed LEADER scale action figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and features a firing projectile, massive weaponry and working vehicle features. Each figure sold separately and includes a Collector Card inspired by the TRANSFORMERS LEGENDS mobile game from DeNA.
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Posted by frogbat on October 9th, 2014 @ 1:54am CDT
Thunder cracker works well, tho he is perhaps one of the few iterations of a a size appropriate to his jet form, i think I'll be sticking with my deluxe seekers. Jet fire was at least meant to tower over the others. The retool works very well though and took me a few seconds to realise it was a jetfire retool when I saw the thumbnail. obviously the cost is a big issue cos...
I know I'll be spending a lot of money on those frickin combiners. Even prime looks tempting there,
Posted by BumbleDouche on October 9th, 2014 @ 2:05am CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 9th, 2014 @ 2:07am CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on October 9th, 2014 @ 2:10am CDT
3rd party to the rescue!
Posted by megatronus on October 9th, 2014 @ 4:04am CDT
(1) Generations Leaders are closer to Universe Ultra in size (i.e. shorter than the ROTF Leaders)
(2) We are also getting a Generations Leader Megatron, so TC should fit in with Megatron nicely
That's not to say I'm super happy with the fact that TC is Leader-sized (I would have rather seen a healthy voyager that could more directly compete with iGear's Raptor Squadron), but I am saying that the size is acceptable, IMHO.
Posted by megatronus on October 9th, 2014 @ 4:12am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.
3rd party to the rescue!
Well yea, except one of the voyagers is Optimus... so 3 combiners, plus Optimus Super Mode?
I wonder who the 4th Voyager will be.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 9th, 2014 @ 4:48am CDT
And Huffer... I'm...not sure how I feel. It looks good, but it also looks like somebody put Huffer's had on Optimus's body.
Posted by Evil Eye on October 9th, 2014 @ 4:59am CDT
Would have preferred Skywarp but oh well.
Huffer looks pretty cool, I might very well get him.
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 9th, 2014 @ 5:00am CDT
Meanwhile these Legends figures are really starting to annoy me. Every time I successfully talk myself out of getting involved with them Hasbro go and reveal yet another Minibot. I don't have the money right now to go back and collect an entire line of figures I've been trying to ignore.
Posted by RhA on October 9th, 2014 @ 5:06am CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I reay like that Thundercracker. So different, uet so similar. I'm just not sure if I want a leader class version of him in my Decepticon collection.
And Huffer... I'm...not sure how I feel. It looks good, but it also looks like somebody put Huffer's had on Optimus's body.
Ignore it now and wait untill they come up with Thundercracker and Starscream. They will. Oh yes, they will.
Posted by megatronus on October 9th, 2014 @ 5:12am CDT
Sodan-1 wrote:I'm wondering about the potential for a custom G1 Dreadwind and Darkwing.
Between the Universe Ultra Darkwind/g and Botcon Dreadwind... do we need new versions?
Posted by frogbat on October 9th, 2014 @ 5:35am CDT
Posted by megatronus on October 9th, 2014 @ 5:44am CDT
frogbat wrote:i was thinking of it as a skyquake / dreadwing thanks to their prime incarnations. It does seem that thundercracker does not come with jetfire's backpack, could it be left out and might lead to a cheaper price (i have a feeling it will be w/o the pack but same price as jetfire)
They're not taking the backpack out - that's what makes up the rear of the jet in alt mode, and is essential to the transformation.
Posted by robotmel on October 9th, 2014 @ 5:57am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.
3rd party to the rescue!
You can guarantee ideas are being thrown around already for the Combiner Wars gestalts.
Working with what we have seen so far could we expect the likes of Dr Wu, Prof Heiesenberg, Dr Killinger, SXS and Beelzeboss banging their heads together to create...
Weapon set - G1 inspired guns and swords?
Replacement head(s) - G1 inspired individual bots and/or gestalt head?
Replacement hands & feet - Articulated fingers/combining hands and feet into weapon?
Replacement Legends bot - Improved and articulated replacement?
Replacement Deluxe bot - Improved and articulated replacement?
We have already heard news that Beelzeboss may be working on replacement parts/entire figure.
Posted by Doubledealer93 on October 9th, 2014 @ 6:20am CDT
Posted by frogbat on October 9th, 2014 @ 6:37am CDT
megatronus wrote:frogbat wrote:i was thinking of it as a skyquake / dreadwing thanks to their prime incarnations. It does seem that thundercracker does not come with jetfire's backpack, could it be left out and might lead to a cheaper price (i have a feeling it will be w/o the pack but same price as jetfire)
They're not taking the backpack out - that's what makes up the rear of the jet in alt mode, and is essential to the transformation.
mm I was referring to the detachable backpack that came with jetfire, it's not being shown in either the pshopped images or the comic con photos. It might not be shown as it's not ready or they decided to do without it as it doesn't contribute to thundercracker.
Posted by megatronus on October 9th, 2014 @ 7:03am CDT
frogbat wrote:megatronus wrote:frogbat wrote:i was thinking of it as a skyquake / dreadwing thanks to their prime incarnations. It does seem that thundercracker does not come with jetfire's backpack, could it be left out and might lead to a cheaper price (i have a feeling it will be w/o the pack but same price as jetfire)
They're not taking the backpack out - that's what makes up the rear of the jet in alt mode, and is essential to the transformation.
mm I was referring to the detachable backpack that came with jetfire, it's not being shown in either the pshopped images or the comic con photos. It might not be shown as it's not ready or they decided to do without it as it doesn't contribute to thundercracker.
Ah, I see what you're saying. You were referring to the jetpack thing:
Sorry about that.
We may not get the jetpack with Thundercracker, but we are getting null rays.
Posted by frogbat on October 9th, 2014 @ 7:30am CDT
in the photos there's also a 2nd hand blaster though I reckon since it's not in the pshopped image, it won't be included.
I do like the new thundercracker detailing, though the mould's inherent flaws still bely what would have been one of the best figures in years.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2014 @ 8:31am CDT
But we're getting 6 Voyagers.megatronus wrote:Autobot032 wrote:16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.
3rd party to the rescue!
Well yea, except one of the voyagers is Optimus... so 3 combiners, plus Optimus Super Mode?
I wonder who the 4th Voyager will be.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 9th, 2014 @ 8:41am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker looks incredible! Nice to see such wonderful treatment given to the guy who has essentailly become the G1 equivalent of Beast Wars Dinobot!But we're getting 6 Voyagers.megatronus wrote:Autobot032 wrote:16 Deluxes... 4 combiners. I'm betting a portion of those will be redecos/remolds. Yay.
3rd party to the rescue!
Well yea, except one of the voyagers is Optimus... so 3 combiners, plus Optimus Super Mode?
I wonder who the 4th Voyager will be.
Actually, I pulled the 6 out of thin air 5 is the minimum, with Optimus as an "extra". And we have no reason to speculate Optimus will get a team of his own.
16 Deluxes and 7-11 Legends have been confirmed to appear tho. And Huffer is a must-get
Posted by paul053 on October 9th, 2014 @ 8:45am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 9th, 2014 @ 8:50am CDT
paul053 wrote:Huffer!? That's a surprise. And seems like he doesn't have a mini partner. So is he going to be packed individually and be cheaper?
The cheaper bit is yet to be determined. What we do know is that the 2015 Legends have no partners at all, on the account of the new mold releases becoming accessories for the Combiners. Those include
- Powerglide (gun for Superion)
- Blackjack (based on G1 Motormaster's car, becomes chest plate)
- Bombshell (not yet determined)
The repaints have no partners, they include:
- Huffer (from Optimus Prime)
- Thundercracker (from Starscream)
- Windcharger (from Tailgate)
Posted by joevill on October 9th, 2014 @ 8:58am CDT
Posted by shajaki on October 9th, 2014 @ 9:11am CDT
he looks good. but damn thatll be one giant set of seekers...
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2014 @ 9:12am CDT
That, or it's because of how great a character he's been in IDW, what with this also being modeled after his IDW body.shajaki wrote:for everyone wondering "why thundercracker first?" i bet its just marketing strategy. he's probably the least desired of the original seeker trio, being the first is better for sales. theyve done it before (titanium). also ad its already been said, SS isnt first cause the colors are too close to jetfire.
he looks good. but damn thatll be one giant set of seekers...
Posted by Evil Eye on October 9th, 2014 @ 9:22am CDT
shajaki wrote:he looks good. but damn thatll be one giant set of seekers...
The funny thing is that if you put him next to a deluxe car Transformer (which are usually fairly consistent in size, even between lines) he actually scales perfectly in vehicle mode. Jets are big things, and a jetformer would definitely be bigger than a carformer.
(I do have a headcanon that jetformers aren't actually much bigger than carformers in robot mode, but in vehicle mode they "puff out" by decompressing their compacted robot modes, creating a jet mode which is the "correct" size but is mostly hollow, which also reduces its overall density and allows for better flying. Obviously this can't be replicated in toy form very well, but oh well.)
Posted by Optimizzy on October 9th, 2014 @ 9:34am CDT
Posted by Optimizzy on October 9th, 2014 @ 9:42am CDT
EDIT: didnt mean to post right after the other. sorry. didnt think.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 9th, 2014 @ 10:05am CDT
Posted by paul053 on October 9th, 2014 @ 10:17am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:paul053 wrote:Huffer!? That's a surprise. And seems like he doesn't have a mini partner. So is he going to be packed individually and be cheaper?
The cheaper bit is yet to be determined. What we do know is that the 2015 Legends have no partners at all, on the account of the new mold releases becoming accessories for the Combiners. Those include
- Powerglide (gun for Superion)
- Blackjack (based on G1 Motormaster's car, becomes chest plate)
- Bombshell (not yet determined)
The repaints have no partners, they include:
- Huffer (from Optimus Prime)
- Thundercracker (from Starscream)
- Windcharger (from Tailgate)
Thanks for bring this up. I never look at the list as a whole.
Funny they don't need partners now because they are partners for the future combiners. Look back at the list, I really want Powerglide and Bombshell and so don't care about them being accessories or not. Hasbro should do Kickback too so I can complete the Generations legend Insecticons. Strongly consider Huffer, too.
Posted by Siger on October 9th, 2014 @ 10:32am CDT
Posted by shajaki on October 9th, 2014 @ 11:06am CDT
im aware how things scale in real life if coarse. and even though i care about scales sometimes, its usually just for bot modes. ive never cared much about alt mode scales.
i figure, between the two modes of any given TF, only one will completely be accurate and to scale. id prefer it to be the bot mode.
Posted by Agamemnon on October 9th, 2014 @ 11:14am CDT
Siger wrote:Thundercracker is the least desired for most but most desired for me out of all the seekers. I understand the appeal of Starscream but never for Skywarp. He's pretty much a dum-dum guido from Jersey Shore.
But, but, but, he's purple!!
Posted by ebonyleopard on October 9th, 2014 @ 11:16am CDT
Posted by DMSL on October 9th, 2014 @ 11:32am CDT
Seriously they don't just look bad, but they defeat the purpose why i buy Trasnformers.
Posted by DMSL on October 9th, 2014 @ 11:36am CDT
I think it's great that Hasbro is finally making combiners, but why do they have to half ass them. Third parties are going above and beyond and then Hasbro comes with this?
Sorry for this negativity but i am seriously disappointed in their lack of creative design.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 9th, 2014 @ 12:38pm CDT
Posted by padfoo on October 9th, 2014 @ 1:05pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:NYCC is in full swing and Seibertron.com's troops are on the ground getting you the best shots of the hottest and newest Transformers, and we've already reported on Hasbro's display at NYCC, which you can read here, and now we have official images from Hasbro, courtesy of their Facebook page, which you can see here.
Since these are remolds and redecos, we know you'll want to see the originals these figures are based off of, and you can see the origin molds in all their glory in our galleries, located here for Jetfire (Thundercracker) and Optimus (Huffer).
We've mirrored the images below:
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Thundercracker is now a buy, he will go to the wall of thunder with his other incarnations.
Posted by padfoo on October 9th, 2014 @ 1:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That, or it's because of how great a character he's been in IDW, what with this also being modeled after his IDW body.shajaki wrote:for everyone wondering "why thundercracker first?" i bet its just marketing strategy. he's probably the least desired of the original seeker trio, being the first is better for sales. theyve done it before (titanium). also ad its already been said, SS isnt first cause the colors are too close to jetfire.
he looks good. but damn thatll be one giant set of seekers...
Thanks for saying what I wanted to first. Thundercracker gets pretty good representation in the IDW comics, although I think the screen play plot/joke is going too far for any Decepticon who has been slaying Autobots for millions of years.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on October 9th, 2014 @ 1:38pm CDT
Obviously they were gonna redeco JF into someone else, and it was pretty good odds they'd do a con, but one of the seekers? That's just weird. Weirder still they didn't do it as Starscream (not a complaint, just he's usually first).
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 9th, 2014 @ 1:49pm CDT
I mean, they can repaint that Huffer into Pipes but he's gonna look a lot like Overload.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Overload_%28G1%29
Posted by shajaki on October 9th, 2014 @ 1:58pm CDT
i thought that at first too. but im warming up to it. they did a great job with all that extensive retooling. just goes to show ya, hasbro can still pull a fast one and wow you!Optimum Supreme wrote:Obviously they were gonna redeco JF into someone else, and it was pretty good odds they'd do a con, but one of the seekers? That's just weird.
Posted by Siger on October 9th, 2014 @ 2:55pm CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Siger wrote:Thundercracker is the least desired for most but most desired for me out of all the seekers. I understand the appeal of Starscream but never for Skywarp. He's pretty much a dum-dum guido from Jersey Shore.
But, but, but, he's purple!!
LOL, Ok... I suppose that's a reason.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on October 9th, 2014 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on October 9th, 2014 @ 7:21pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So we're getting a legends Thundercracker AND a Leader version? Also according to the press release all the legends become an add on for the combined figures so does that mean Huffer, Thundercracker, and Windcharger are going to be slightly remolded to do something else?
Apparently somebody somewhere loves Thundercracker for some reason.
As for the retooled legends? It'd be nice, but I don't think it'll happen, that was probably just a standard blurb because the new molds work that way.
Posted by Siger on October 9th, 2014 @ 7:27pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:After seeing the back of CW Prime's box, I'm disappointed they went with "Ultra Prime" rather than "Omega Prime" for the combined mode's name, and equally disappointed that the limbs for it are three Aerialbots and a Stunticon (seriously?).chuckdawg1999 wrote:So we're getting a legends Thundercracker AND a Leader version? Also according to the press release all the legends become an add on for the combined figures so does that mean Huffer, Thundercracker, and Windcharger are going to be slightly remolded to do something else?
Apparently somebody somewhere loves Thundercracker for some reason.
As for the retooled legends? It'd be nice, but I don't think it'll happen, that was probably just a standard blurb because the new molds work that way.
What do you mean someone loves Thundercracker for some reason? He's a very interesting character, much more so than Skywarp. Basically like Sabrblade said, he's like the Dinobot of G1. A Decepticon with honor and a moral center. He's also kinda like Drift but didn't choose to join the autobots.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 9th, 2014 @ 9:08pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:After seeing the back of CW Prime's box, I'm disappointed they went with "Ultra Prime" rather than "Omega Prime" for the combined mode's name, and equally disappointed that the limbs for it are three Aerialbots and a Stunticon (seriously?).chuckdawg1999 wrote:So we're getting a legends Thundercracker AND a Leader version? Also according to the press release all the legends become an add on for the combined figures so does that mean Huffer, Thundercracker, and Windcharger are going to be slightly remolded to do something else?
Apparently somebody somewhere loves Thundercracker for some reason.
As for the retooled legends? It'd be nice, but I don't think it'll happen, that was probably just a standard blurb because the new molds work that way.
That's what I'm kinda hoping, also hoping that they're not numbered so I can skip Huffer guilt free.
Posted by padfoo on October 9th, 2014 @ 9:09pm CDT
Siger wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:After seeing the back of CW Prime's box, I'm disappointed they went with "Ultra Prime" rather than "Omega Prime" for the combined mode's name, and equally disappointed that the limbs for it are three Aerialbots and a Stunticon (seriously?).chuckdawg1999 wrote:So we're getting a legends Thundercracker AND a Leader version? Also according to the press release all the legends become an add on for the combined figures so does that mean Huffer, Thundercracker, and Windcharger are going to be slightly remolded to do something else?
Apparently somebody somewhere loves Thundercracker for some reason.
As for the retooled legends? It'd be nice, but I don't think it'll happen, that was probably just a standard blurb because the new molds work that way.
What do you mean someone loves Thundercracker for some reason? He's a very interesting character, much more so than Skywarp. Basically like Sabrblade said, he's like the Dinobot of G1. A Decepticon with honor and a moral center. He's also kinda like Drift but didn't choose to join the autobots.
So true, show some love!
Posted by Zeedust on October 9th, 2014 @ 10:18pm CDT
padfoo wrote:Siger wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:After seeing the back of CW Prime's box, I'm disappointed they went with "Ultra Prime" rather than "Omega Prime" for the combined mode's name, and equally disappointed that the limbs for it are three Aerialbots and a Stunticon (seriously?).chuckdawg1999 wrote:So we're getting a legends Thundercracker AND a Leader version? Also according to the press release all the legends become an add on for the combined figures so does that mean Huffer, Thundercracker, and Windcharger are going to be slightly remolded to do something else?
Apparently somebody somewhere loves Thundercracker for some reason.
As for the retooled legends? It'd be nice, but I don't think it'll happen, that was probably just a standard blurb because the new molds work that way.
What do you mean someone loves Thundercracker for some reason? He's a very interesting character, much more so than Skywarp. Basically like Sabrblade said, he's like the Dinobot of G1. A Decepticon with honor and a moral center. He's also kinda like Drift but didn't choose to join the autobots.
So true, show some love!
Fine, fine, though I'm pretty sure IDW continuity is the only one where any of this really comes across.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2014 @ 10:22pm CDT
Well, it's a good thing that the Generations line has become very much linked to the IDW comics as of late.Nemesis Primal wrote:Fine, fine, though I'm pretty sure IDW continuity is the only one where any of this really comes across.