Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist

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Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 3:49PM CST

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The BotCon 2013 website has posted official images of their recently revealed convention exclusive Machine Wars Hoist. The figure is a reuse of Generations Sargeant Kup with a new head and deco. Images of the figure in both robot and vehicle mode have been mirrored below.

Botcon 2013 is in San Diego this year from June 27-30. Check out BotCon.com for more information.

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Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461468)
Posted by Flux Convoy on February 6th, 2013 @ 4:04pm CST
Yup, I still like it. Alt mode looks nice and clean. The striping pops nicely. I assume W&S references Witwicky & Son.
:BOT:
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461473)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 6th, 2013 @ 4:13pm CST
Flux Convoy wrote:Yup, I still like it. Alt mode looks nice and clean. The striping pops nicely. I assume W&S references Witwicky & Son.
:BOT:


Close. It actually references Wilk and Son Towing on the original toy:

Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461474)
Posted by Rated X on February 6th, 2013 @ 4:14pm CST
W&S Towing with what crane ? I hope somebody does an add on crane. I still say this deco is meant to stand in as Trailbreaker until they get around to a real one.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461484)
Posted by xyl360 on February 6th, 2013 @ 4:39pm CST
Rated X wrote:W&S Towing with what crane ? I hope somebody does an add on crane. I still say this deco is meant to stand in as Trailbreaker until they get around to a real one.

Yeah, I don't think this thing will go long without some 3rd party figuring out that they can sell a simple tow crane add on for this thing and make a fast buck. Somebody will get around to it (if not, there's always Shapeways).
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461501)
Posted by Burn on February 6th, 2013 @ 6:00pm CST
Rated X wrote:W&S Towing with what crane ?


It's a magic invisible crane!
Magic and invisible like FunPub's business ethics.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461509)
Posted by LiKwid on February 6th, 2013 @ 7:03pm CST
The crane will be this years Soundwaves headband..5 bucks and a total POS..
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461534)
Posted by Bowspearer on February 6th, 2013 @ 9:46pm CST
I was willing to give this guys a slight benefit of the doubt- until I saw that we're getting a tow truck with no actual towing hook. I know they don't go with new molds, but seriously, would sculpting a new weapon that turned into an appropriately sized tow hook REALLY have killed them? Epic fail.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461540)
Posted by STngAR on February 6th, 2013 @ 10:23pm CST
Repainting movie Longarm would have made more sense to me but thats just me. :MAXIMAL:
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461549)
Posted by rpetras on February 6th, 2013 @ 11:31pm CST
It almost works as Trailbreaker.

A little parts swapping with Swerve (which would be a pain because he has a TON of pins) and you'd have a passable Trailbreaker.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461551)
Posted by FracturedKoi on February 6th, 2013 @ 11:55pm CST
I was really hoping they'd make an extra molded bit to stick into the bed of the truck so it would be a makeshift tow truck at least. Doesn't make much sense as MW Hoist, as is xD
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461553)
Posted by FracturedKoi on February 6th, 2013 @ 11:55pm CST
STngAR wrote:Repainting movie Longarm would have made more sense to me but thats just me. :MAXIMAL:


Nope, it isn't just you; I couldn't agree more!
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461558)
Posted by Bowspearer on February 7th, 2013 @ 12:26am CST
STngAR wrote:Repainting movie Longarm would have made more sense to me but thats just me. :MAXIMAL:



You're preaching to the choir here ;):

Bowspearer wrote:The other thing is that Kup ideally isn't the best mould choice here. Honestly, as much as i detest movie toys, I was honestly expecting them to draw on the Longarm mould if they did go this way for both Hoist and Hubcap as it is an actual tow truck. Hopefully the other reveals are better fits.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461573)
Posted by Tranzilla on February 7th, 2013 @ 2:14am CST
I saw a pic of Kup sporting Scout Armorhide's tow weapon and it looks pretty good. There was a Target exclusive of Armorhide that was black in color with a yellow tipped black weapon that should work pretty well. All you would need is some way to mount it in the bed of Koist.




Should blend nicely, although it's not perfect.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461589)
Posted by Flux Convoy on February 7th, 2013 @ 5:14am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Close. It actually references Wilk and Son Towing on the original toy:


Fair enough but who the eff is Wilk? Haha!
:BOT:
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461592)
Posted by Bass X0 on February 7th, 2013 @ 5:41am CST
[quote]I still say this deco is meant to stand in as Trailbreaker until they get around to a real one. [/quote]

Thats just coincidence. Maybe they did go with Hoist out o the 12 Machine Wars toys because of that similarity but really, its just the 1997 MW Hoist colors on the Kup mold.

[quote]The other thing is that Kup ideally isn't the best mould choice here.[/quote]

Its the best mold they can use out of the ones they have available to them.

[quote]I know they don't go with new molds, but seriously, would sculpting a new weapon that turned into an appropriately sized tow hook REALLY have killed them? Epic fail.[/quote]

It wouldn't have killed them but the costs for making such a thing would have been passed onto the customer. Such a thing would be quite expensive solely because its produced in limited numbers. So thats why they don't do it.

STngAR wrote:Repainting movie Longarm would have made more sense to me but thats just me. :MAXIMAL:


Longarm is based on an on-screen movie vehicle which is off limits for the Club. Also, ALL 2007 movie molds, on screen or not are off limits to the club.

And people would rather see recent molds used than six year old molds.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461595)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 7th, 2013 @ 7:01am CST
Flux Convoy wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Close. It actually references Wilk and Son Towing on the original toy:


Fair enough but who the eff is Wilk? Haha!
:BOT:


Wilkinson. You may have heard of that ;)

And for people moaning about him being a pickup, I bring you: G2 Laser Rod Electro. A few pages back we already determined that the head shares features with both Hoist and him, which means the head will do double duty.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461637)
Posted by gothsaurus on February 7th, 2013 @ 9:29am CST
Aw dang. If they use this mold to crank out the gold laser rod, plus the Machine Wars repaint of Hoist... That's a pretty great use of the mold. With the added hook attachment to the back (bet the price will go up for those on ebay) ... I'm actually pretty happy with this guy. Can't complain about ANY black repaint.

Anyway, they always start off with someone less shockingly awesome for the start of the reveal. From here, should get interesting.
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461724)
Posted by STngAR on February 7th, 2013 @ 2:07pm CST
Bass X0 wrote:

STngAR wrote:Repainting movie Longarm would have made more sense to me but thats just me. :MAXIMAL:


Longarm is based on an on-screen movie vehicle which is off limits for the Club. Also, ALL 2007 movie molds, on screen or not are off limits to the club.

And people would rather see recent molds used than six year old molds.



[color=#4000FF]Yea I know all the what they can and can't use, I was just saying it would make more sense. Repainting an obvious big rig tow truck into a some sort of pickup with "towing" on the side of it makes absolutley no sense.

Totally disagree about the old molds.[/color]
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461725)
Posted by gothsaurus on February 7th, 2013 @ 2:14pm CST
I wonder if Trailbreaker inspired the original deco for the MW toy. Hmmmmm. >:oP
Re: Official Images: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Hoist (1461743)
Posted by RAcast on February 7th, 2013 @ 3:11pm CST
STngAR wrote:
Bass X0 wrote:

STngAR wrote:Repainting movie Longarm would have made more sense to me but thats just me. :MAXIMAL:


Longarm is based on an on-screen movie vehicle which is off limits for the Club. Also, ALL 2007 movie molds, on screen or not are off limits to the club.

And people would rather see recent molds used than six year old molds.



[color=#4000FF]Yea I know all the what they can and can't use, I was just saying it would make more sense. Repainting an obvious big rig tow truck into a some sort of pickup with "towing" on the side of it makes absolutley no sense.

Totally disagree about the old molds.[/color]

I think Longarm is licensed as well. According to the wiki, he's a Ford F-350; therefore he'd be off-limits to TFCC.