Official Images of Kre-O MV4 Micro Changer Wave 2
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- Sunstreaker
- Decepticon Skalor
- Trailbreaker
- Autobot Seaspray
- Scattershot
- Autobot Wheelie
- Frostbite
- Skimmer
- Decepticon Blackarachnia
- Decepticon Runamuck
- Autobot Gears
- Fuselage
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Posted by welcometothedarksyde on April 19th, 2014 @ 7:46pm CDT
Posted by Downbeat on April 19th, 2014 @ 8:38pm CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 19th, 2014 @ 9:19pm CDT
And it's finally back to ScattErshot instead of Unicron Trilogy ScattOrshot, otherwise I'd guess he was supposed to be Scattor, the middle Energon Saber jet.Downbeat wrote:Still confused by who the hell Scattershot is intended to be. Meanwhile, Skimmer over there looks like the new character find of the century.
And am I the only one who thinks Skimmer bears an intentional resemblance to Bristleback? Ah, if only they hadn't loudened Abominus's colors to resemble the Prime Terrorpreds, they might've done a Kreo Monstructor...
Posted by Sabrblade on April 19th, 2014 @ 10:24pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on April 19th, 2014 @ 10:43pm CDT
welcometothedarksyde wrote:I think they could've done so much better on Beachcomber, Null rays? Seriously, there was no way to get some shoulder mounted round things?
The missile pod things Lugnut has would've been perfect.
Posted by wolverinetodd on April 20th, 2014 @ 5:42am CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Aren't there any Autobot jets that aren't white? The Aerialbots are white jets, Strafe is a white jet, Jetfire's a white jet, Scattershot's a white jet... meanwhile the Decepticon Seekers are an entire rainbow. Too bad Skimmer isn't DotM Air Raid.welcometothedarksyde wrote:I think they could've done so much better on Beachcomber, Null rays? Seriously, there was no way to get some shoulder mounted round things?
The missile pod things Lugnut has would've been perfect.
Technically, Scattershot's a Technobot (leader of them, in fact) and should've been about 80% dark burgundy in color and not so much white. He looks too much like an Aerialbot or one of his fellow Technobots, Strafe. No surprise that this mini-fig was done wrong.
I'm also confused as to where "Beachcomber" is as referenced by welcometothedarksyde as I don't see the laidback dune buggy anywhere.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 20th, 2014 @ 8:37am CDT
This Scattershot isn't the Technobot Scattershot.wolverinetodd wrote:Technically, Scattershot's a Technobot (leader of them, in fact) and should've been about 80% dark burgundy in color and not so much white. He looks too much like an Aerialbot or one of his fellow Technobots, Strafe. No surprise that this mini-fig was done wrong.
Sabrblade wrote:Scattershot = Universe/ROTF Airazor
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 20th, 2014 @ 8:43am CDT
wolverinetodd wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:Aren't there any Autobot jets that aren't white? The Aerialbots are white jets, Strafe is a white jet, Jetfire's a white jet, Scattershot's a white jet... meanwhile the Decepticon Seekers are an entire rainbow. Too bad Skimmer isn't DotM Air Raid.welcometothedarksyde wrote:I think they could've done so much better on Beachcomber, Null rays? Seriously, there was no way to get some shoulder mounted round things?
The missile pod things Lugnut has would've been perfect.
Technically, Scattershot's a Technobot (leader of them, in fact) and should've been about 80% dark burgundy in color and not so much white. He looks too much like an Aerialbot or one of his fellow Technobots, Strafe. No surprise that this mini-fig was done wrong.
Sometimes renaming is necessary to get around trademark problems. Plus, we already have a G1 Scattershot Microchanger in the Computron Combiner set, this is the second one named "Scattershot".
In a curious move, RotF/Universe 2008 Airazor was made as a replacement for Slingshot. So Slingshot and Airazor's representations, Quickslinger and Scattershot, are both standalone from Superion.
Posted by Noideaforaname on April 20th, 2014 @ 10:03am CDT
wolverinetodd wrote:I'm also confused as to where "Beachcomber" is as referenced by welcometothedarksyde as I don't see the laidback dune buggy anywhere.
I assumed he was talking about Seaspray.
Posted by Down_Shift on April 20th, 2014 @ 10:37am CDT
Aside from that, I'm excited for that Gears!
Posted by Sabrblade on April 20th, 2014 @ 2:42pm CDT
I've seen speculation the Sunstreaker's chest, as well as that of Trailbreaker and that of Runamuck, might be based off of possible Binder of Revelation versions of the guys instead of their G1 versions.Down_Shift wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned Sunstreakers chest is completely wrong. Sure the helmet is an odd choice, but the chest is worse.
After all, we have already gotten a G1 Trailbreaker-based Kreon with Trailcutter:
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 8:30am CDT
Why the hell are we getting another Trailbreaker and Scattershot? What a waste of two slots, when we still need a Cosmos and Reflector. Not to mention Ultra Magnus, Blurr, Tracks, Grapple, Skids, Blaster, Blitzwing, Astrotrain or Smokescreen.
And who is Skimmer and Fuselage? Fuselage looks like Astrotrain to me. So, I will pass on Skimmer and pick up "Fuselage" and pretend it is Astrotrain. Unless we get an official one in the future, then it can be Fuselage again. Whoever the hell that is.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 8:47am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Fuselage appears to be Octane and Skimmer might be DOTM Air Raid.
Fuselage doesn't look like Octane to me. Colors are off and that head piece doesn't match. Looks more like Astrotrain to me, especially the alt mode. We haven't seen the name since classics Astrotrain. I bet they lost the trademark for it. Also, if it were Octane, they could have easily named it Tankor as we know they still have the rights for that name with the upcoming Generations release.
Who knows who Skimmer is supposed to me? It think DOTM Air Raid is an obscure character to be made a kreon, but your guess is the best one out there, because there is no other bot with that look that I know of. I personally am passing on that Kreon with Trailcutter and Scatershot part 2, so I am ok with it. Lightens the financial load when they hit retail. Although it irritates me tht they would redo two figures and create some obscure one when there are still 20 or so left that have not been made from G1 alone. They should have made a Reflector. That one would be lucrative for them as everyone would want three. Not to mention the perfect opportunity to make the five G1 dinobots with the TF4 movie coming. We get 4 combiner sets that are dino related and none of them are G1 dinos. What the hell were they thinking?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 8:48am CDT
As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 8:54am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Supposedly Fuselage is Octane, basic on his Universe figure. Coloring and especially naming is kind of weird in Kre-O, falling in a different trademark category, so "Tankor" may already be taken in that field.
As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.
I don't agree. Fuselage looks WAYYYYY more like Astrotrain. Even the alt mode matches. The alt mode looks nothing like Octane's. They also could have named it Tankor or Octane. I doubt either or are restricted. I think that the odds are greater that they have lost the Astrotrain name since we have not seen anything since 2006 with that name. We had a Tankor in 2009 AND 2014.
In my OP, the evidence is heavily towards Astrotrain than Octane in every category. What makes you believe it is Octane?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 9:00am CDT
shockblast2 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Supposedly Fuselage is Octane, basic on his Universe figure. Coloring and especially naming is kind of weird in Kre-O, falling in a different trademark category, so "Tankor" may already be taken in that field.
As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.
I don't agree. Fuselage looks WAYYYYY more like Astrotrain. Even the alt mode matches. The alt mode looks nothing like Octane's. They also could have named it Tankor or Octane. I doubt either or are restricted. I think that the odds are greater that they have lost the Astrotrain name since we have not seen anything since 2006 with that name. We had a Tankor in 2009 AND 2014.
In my OP, the evidence is heavily towards Astrotrain than Octane in every category. What makes you believe it is Octane?
His chest detailing, it matches that of the Universe 2008 figure, not G1:
Also, wings on top and not the bottom: Universe Tankor aka Octane.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 9:07am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:shockblast2 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Supposedly Fuselage is Octane, basic on his Universe figure. Coloring and especially naming is kind of weird in Kre-O, falling in a different trademark category, so "Tankor" may already be taken in that field.
As for Skimmer being DotM Air Raid, no. I was thinking at least the chest details would match, but no.
I don't agree. Fuselage looks WAYYYYY more like Astrotrain. Even the alt mode matches. The alt mode looks nothing like Octane's. They also could have named it Tankor or Octane. I doubt either or are restricted. I think that the odds are greater that they have lost the Astrotrain name since we have not seen anything since 2006 with that name. We had a Tankor in 2009 AND 2014.
In my OP, the evidence is heavily towards Astrotrain than Octane in every category. What makes you believe it is Octane?
His chest detailing, it matches that of the Universe 2008 figure, not G1:
Also, wings on top and not the bottom: Universe Tankor aka Octane.
Those are obscure details compared to the colors not matching, the fact that the name Tankor is available for use, the helmet looking more like Astrotrain than Octane, and the biggest point of all, the fact that the alt mode looks like a space shuttle and not a old type plane.
Still not seeing Octane in this one. And that chest piece looks similar to Octanes, but Astrotrain's is similar as well. Also, those wings are inverted just like Astrotrains. Octane's are more of a rectangle. Go look at a G1 pick of both and you will see what i mean. The more I look at them now the more I am sold that this is Astrotrain.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 9:40am CDT
And as for this Scattershot:
Sabrblade wrote:Scattershot = Universe/ROTF Airazor
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 9:56am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Skimmer is actually a new beast-based character, like a new Dinobot, to go along with the dino theme of AOE.
And as for this Scattershot:Sabrblade wrote:Scattershot = Universe/ROTF Airazor
I figured Skimmer would be something like that. How lame is it that we have 30+ new dino kreons but no G1 dinobots? Sometimes I really think the people who make the decisions for these lines as far as the characters go are complete morons.
They even took Insecticon Shrapnel, messed up his colors just so they can insert it into the lame Obsidian combiner they came up with. How stupid.
I can agree that this "Scattershot " might be Airrazor, but that is redundant because we already got all five aerialbots. Making this another stupid character choice, along with Trailbreaker. How insulting, especially when there are many other characters they could have chose.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 9:58am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 10:12am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No, please, do go on. Tell us how you really feel about these Kreons.
No... just, no. In fact completely ignore that
I'd expect a return to the more traditional characters once the Movie Hype is over. That would mean we will get proper Insecticons and Dinobots since the pieces will be reused. All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 10:37am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No, please, do go on. Tell us how you really feel about these Kreons.
Ok, I will!
Those dirty mother(beep)s! need to get their heads out of their *sses and stop BEEPing us over by giving us half*ss characters that noone knows who the hell they are. I mean, we shouldn't be debating over the names of these characters at all. How hard is it to just name a damn kreon either Tankor or Astrotrain? Hasbro only has a billion dollars and they couldn't just give us a BEEPing clear name? And look at the obscure characters they have picked! I mean , WTF!! No BEEPing Cosmos. No BEEPing Skids. Yet, we get Skimmer. F'in Skimmer. Who the BEEP knows who Skimmer is?
Nerd Rage melt down in 5...4....3...2...1........AHAHAHAHAA!!!
Ok, I'm done.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 10:38am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No, please, do go on. Tell us how you really feel about these Kreons.
No... just, no. In fact completely ignore that
I'd expect a return to the more traditional characters once the Movie Hype is over. That would mean we will get proper Insecticons and Dinobots since the pieces will be reused. All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.
Sorry Goldrabbit.........I slipped........fell off the wagon.
What will my brothers in the Nerd Rage Coalition think of me now?!?!?!
I am a failure!!
Posted by Noideaforaname on April 21st, 2014 @ 10:40am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.
There's actually way more "traditional" characters instead of Movie ones in these waves, outside the big expensive sets I mean. Sea Spray's basically the only Movie bot, and even that's debatable.
Meanwhile we got TWENTY characters --between the blindbags and Combiners-- that are completely made up. Twenty! A dozen and a half (plus two). That's a lot of waste for an homage line.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 10:42am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 10:49am CDT
Frostbite is a new guy to go with the Lazerbolt dudes.shockblast2 wrote:BTW, is frostbite supposed to be the Cybertron version? Looks kinda like a wolf or something?
There's no Cybertron Frostbite. Only a Universe (2003) one.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 11:26am CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All we can do now is ride it out and tolerate the movie-style critters.
There's actually way more "traditional" characters instead of Movie ones in these waves, outside the big expensive sets I mean. Sea Spray's basically the only Movie bot, and even that's debatable.
Meanwhile we got TWENTY characters --between the blindbags and Combiners-- that are completely made up. Twenty! A dozen and a half (plus two). That's a lot of waste for an homage line.
Looks like G1 Seaspray to me. Especially since there really was no movie Seaspray. The "movie" Voyager Seaspray that came out in 2010 in the HFTD line was revealed by Hasbro to be Classics Seaspray at the time.
Yep, lots of wasted opportunities. We could have had the 20 or so I have on my list that we don't have but should.
Grimlock
Slag
Sludge
Swoop
Snarl
Blaster
Tracks
Skids
Grapple
Smokescreen
Cosmos
Omega Supreme
Ultra Magnus
Blurr
Wreck-Gar
Swerve
Outback
Tailgate
Pipes
Reflector x3
Blue Rainmaker Seeker
Blitzwing
Octane
Runabout
Posted by zodconvoy on April 21st, 2014 @ 11:27am CDT
1) It's Astrotrain but they're not calling him Astrotrain because he doesn't turn into a train. And Astro is just... Astro.
2) A combination of Astrotrain and Octane because why not? They did it with Bluestreak and Smokescreen. He's been basically Kreon Alternator Smokescreen and no one has ever had a problem.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 11:28am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Frostbite is a new guy to go with the Lazerbolt dudes.shockblast2 wrote:BTW, is frostbite supposed to be the Cybertron version? Looks kinda like a wolf or something?
There's no Cybertron Frostbite. Only a Universe (2003) one.
The Universe one is what I was referring to. The wiki page said Cybertron, so I thought that is what it was. Gee....wiki lied to me. What a surprise.
So, it is the new ice dino combiner fill in huh? Good. (crosses that one off the list!)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 11:30am CDT
No it doesn't.shockblast2 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Frostbite is a new guy to go with the Lazerbolt dudes.shockblast2 wrote:BTW, is frostbite supposed to be the Cybertron version? Looks kinda like a wolf or something?
There's no Cybertron Frostbite. Only a Universe (2003) one.
The Universe one is what I was referring to. The wiki page said Cybertron, so I thought that is what it was. Gee....wiki lied to me. What a surprise.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 11:35am CDT
zodconvoy wrote:I see Fuselage as one of two things:
1) It's Astrotrain but they're not calling him Astrotrain because he doesn't turn into a train. And Astro is just... Astro.
2) A combination of Astrotrain and Octane because why not? They did it with Bluestreak and Smokescreen. He's been basically Kreon Alternator Smokescreen and no one has ever had a problem.
Could be. For me it will be Astrotrain, unless they come out with an official one. After the first two waves of this "exclusive" having half of their figures being lame nobody's, we might not see a third wave.
Don't get me wrong though guys, VERY happy about Jetfire, Sunstreaker, Gears, Seaspray, Wheelie, Skalor, and Runamuck. And I can deal with Shrapnel's stupid color choice and Astrotrain (or Octane if you please) name issue. And I am happy for Headmaster/Targetmaster fans for the three or four figures they got. I will pick them up too.
Trypicon didn't need a kreon because he is Trypticon. Kinda like the silly Devastator kreon. Wingspan is ok I guess, but really obscure. Fangwolf is the oddity. But if youa re a Cybertron series fan, then ok.
The rest are shit.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 11:40am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No it doesn't.shockblast2 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Frostbite is a new guy to go with the Lazerbolt dudes.shockblast2 wrote:BTW, is frostbite supposed to be the Cybertron version? Looks kinda like a wolf or something?
There's no Cybertron Frostbite. Only a Universe (2003) one.
The Universe one is what I was referring to. The wiki page said Cybertron, so I thought that is what it was. Gee....wiki lied to me. What a surprise.
Your right, it didn't. I always confuse the Universe, and Armada/Cybertron junk. Mainly because they and Beast Wars suck in my OP. Sorry, BW fans. I don't think there are any Cyberton/Universe fans out there, so I think I am good there....
BTW, my OP on BW or Cybertron/Universe is based on appearance only. The stories themselves might be good. Unfortuantely, I will never give them a chance just because I find the premise of Beast transformers to be silly. And the use of G1 names on figures that look nothing like them is ridiculous to me (Cybertron/Universe).
Posted by Va'al on May 8th, 2014 @ 8:06am CDT
Posted by Tresob on May 8th, 2014 @ 10:39am CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on May 8th, 2014 @ 12:11pm CDT
But Volcanicon IS kinda tempting. Especially since one of the component bots is called "Farside" and has a thagomizer, plus the gold parts would come in handy for Dinobot customs...
Posted by MCutter on May 8th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by jasond00924 on May 9th, 2014 @ 7:13pm CDT
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 16th, 2014 @ 9:13pm CDT
Here is a reminder of which characters are featured in wave 2.
- Sunstreaker
- Decepticon Skalor
- Trailbreaker
- Autobot Seaspray
- Scattershot
- Autobot Wheelie
- Frostbite
- Skimmer
- Decepticon Blackarachnia
- Decepticon Runamuck
- Autobot Gears
- Fuselage
Posted by kirbenvost on July 16th, 2014 @ 9:17pm CDT
Posted by Fc203 on July 16th, 2014 @ 9:25pm CDT
Posted by Doubledealer93 on July 16th, 2014 @ 9:28pm CDT
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 16th, 2014 @ 9:31pm CDT
Fc203 wrote:Where's this at
Hong Kong
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 16th, 2014 @ 9:32pm CDT
Doubledealer93 wrote:do people not feel the bags? i have become a master with lego mini figures so i dont see why you could not do the same with these.
Nope that was the beauty of the codes.
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 16th, 2014 @ 10:03pm CDT
Granted I already have to resort to eBay/secondhand online venues for these things as it is, so it being truly blind bagged isn't directly that big of a deal, but seeing how the current AoE wave guys go for $8+ I'm kinda dreading the effect there.
Doubledealer93 wrote:do people not feel the bags? i have become a master with lego mini figures so i dont see why you could not do the same with these.
Considering half the Kreons this wave use the same two helmets, that might not exactly be so easy.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on July 16th, 2014 @ 10:04pm CDT
Posted by zodconvoy on July 16th, 2014 @ 10:08pm CDT
Posted by MCutter on July 16th, 2014 @ 10:40pm CDT
Posted by morqubus on July 16th, 2014 @ 10:53pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 17th, 2014 @ 12:45am CDT
Posted by leokearon on July 17th, 2014 @ 1:19am CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:The Hobbybase Facebook page is reporting that the wave 2 of the Kre-O Age of Extinction Micro Changers do not feature the handy codes that is used to identify which character you are buying. Will this prevent you from buying future waves of Micro Changers or will this just intensify the hunt for you? Sound off in the Energon Pub.
Here is a reminder of which characters are featured in wave 2.
- Sunstreaker
- Decepticon Skalor
- Trailbreaker
- Autobot Seaspray
- Scattershot
- Autobot Wheelie
- Frostbite
- Skimmer
- Decepticon Blackarachnia
- Decepticon Runamuck
- Autobot Gears
- Fuselage
They did this with the first wave in Europe as well. Hasbro lost money from me again with their awful AOE line