Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime

Transformers News: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime

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We have new official images of Takara Tomy's Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit (DMK03) Optimus Prime via Amazon Japan. The kit looks quite impressive and offers a very screen accurate and articulated version of the latest incarnation of Optimus Prime. Check him out in the series of images mirrored below:

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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1589988)
Posted by Delta Magnus on July 12th, 2014 @ 12:03pm CDT
...Dayum. That looks pretty sweet. But seeing that, I think it's safe to say that expecting an accurate transforming version of this design is kinda unfair. I mean, by the looks of things this transformation defies the laws of physics. There's no way they could make an even remotely accurate version without major partsforming. And you all know what I think of partsforming.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590008)
Posted by YRQRM0 on July 12th, 2014 @ 12:53pm CDT
Looks great. What's with all the silver though? Is that supposed to be the silver knight Optimus? I'm assuming that idea got dumped at the last minute, because in the film I didn't notice any change in color on him. Unless it's just really subtle.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590030)
Posted by TransformersFan89 on July 12th, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
Ok thanks! Do you think we'll be seeing any human alliance figures for Age Of Extinction?
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590059)
Posted by Shuttershock on July 12th, 2014 @ 3:32pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:...Dayum. That looks pretty sweet. But seeing that, I think it's safe to say that expecting an accurate transforming version of this design is kinda unfair. I mean, by the looks of things this transformation defies the laws of physics. There's no way they could make an even remotely accurate version without major partsforming. And you all know what I think of partsforming.


And THAT'S why I don't really care for this knight design for Optimus. It's neat and all, but it's impossible for designers to work around that in ways that aren't bulky awkward shell-forming. There's really nothing to indicate that he's a truck outside of the smokestacks, so he's near unidentifiable as a Transformer.

Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590096)
Posted by william-james88 on July 12th, 2014 @ 4:45pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:

Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.


I am really looking forward to owning EM Prime then. I am simply waiting for that Evolution 2 pack to come out since I dont have either of those molds yet (looks like it will be in a while).
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590127)
Posted by Delta Magnus on July 12th, 2014 @ 5:25pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:...Dayum. That looks pretty sweet. But seeing that, I think it's safe to say that expecting an accurate transforming version of this design is kinda unfair. I mean, by the looks of things this transformation defies the laws of physics. There's no way they could make an even remotely accurate version without major partsforming. And you all know what I think of partsforming.


And THAT'S why I don't really care for this knight design for Optimus. It's neat and all, but it's impossible for designers to work around that in ways that aren't bulky awkward shell-forming. There's really nothing to indicate that he's a truck outside of the smokestacks, so he's near unidentifiable as a Transformer.

Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.


Indeed. I do tip my hat to the designers for trying to make the design unusual, refreshing and not obviously an upscaled and heavily detailed toy, but it is a pain for those of us who want a decent figure of it. Granted, the increased simplification of the AoE line doesn't help (at least with the very large toys; the Deluxes and some of the Voyagers look same as usual) but really, I doubt even Studio Half-Eye could make an accurate transforming version of that (although I wouldn't put it past them considering they made "perfect transforming" versions of Gunbuster and Gurren Lagann).

On the plus side, this could help push forward the toy engineering/mech designing arts, so to speak. For a similar example, look at Evangelion; the lithe, organic designs were considered too difficult to render in toy form and thus Gainax were bombarded with requests to make them more toyetic. However, Gainax refused to give on the designs, and the series went on to basically rewrite the rules of anime. Plus, they eventually got a toy contract with Sega and several years later there are now lots of good Evangelion figures. So, Eva and its radical designs changed not only the anime industry, but the toy industry too.

Not that the live-action Transformers movies are up to par with Eva of course, but you get what I mean.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590128)
Posted by Shuttershock on July 12th, 2014 @ 5:27pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:

Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.


I am really looking forward to owning EM Prime then. I am simply waiting for that Evolution 2 pack to come out since I dont have either of those molds yet (looks like it will be in a while).


Seems to be the right way to go. I haven't even considered the leader class, mainly because it's to pricey to be a big, kibble strewn mess.

Moreover, once again at that size Optimus doesn't have anyone to challenge him at that size. Galvatron is a shell-forming voyager and Lockdown (the PRIMARY antagonist of the movie) is a tiny deluxe. And it's not even like the other Lockdown toys where he unfolds to be taller than a voyager.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590142)
Posted by Shuttershock on July 12th, 2014 @ 5:42pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:...Dayum. That looks pretty sweet. But seeing that, I think it's safe to say that expecting an accurate transforming version of this design is kinda unfair. I mean, by the looks of things this transformation defies the laws of physics. There's no way they could make an even remotely accurate version without major partsforming. And you all know what I think of partsforming.


And THAT'S why I don't really care for this knight design for Optimus. It's neat and all, but it's impossible for designers to work around that in ways that aren't bulky awkward shell-forming. There's really nothing to indicate that he's a truck outside of the smokestacks, so he's near unidentifiable as a Transformer.

Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.


Indeed. I do tip my hat to the designers for trying to make the design unusual, refreshing and not obviously an upscaled and heavily detailed toy, but it is a pain for those of us who want a decent figure of it. Granted, the increased simplification of the AoE line doesn't help (at least with the very large toys; the Deluxes and some of the Voyagers look same as usual) but really, I doubt even Studio Half-Eye could make an accurate transforming version of that (although I wouldn't put it past them considering they made "perfect transforming" versions of Gunbuster and Gurren Lagann).

On the plus side, this could help push forward the toy engineering/mech designing arts, so to speak. For a similar example, look at Evangelion; the lithe, organic designs were considered too difficult to render in toy form and thus Gainax were bombarded with requests to make them more toyetic. However, Gainax refused to give on the designs, and the series went on to basically rewrite the rules of anime. Plus, they eventually got a toy contract with Sega and several years later there are now lots of good Evangelion figures. So, Eva and its radical designs changed not only the anime industry, but the toy industry too.

Not that the live-action Transformers movies are up to par with Eva of course, but you get what I mean.


I see your point. However, the main difference here is that the Eva (to my knowledge) do not transform, and have the luxury of having more lithe forms with ball joints.

Now, I'm not saying that they have to transform to be Transformers toys. I'm aware of Action Masters, Pretenders, Revoltech, Robot Heroes and those God awful plastic bricks they make now a days. I'm just saying that Optimus Prime's knight-mode model was never meant to logically become a truck, just a sleek robot. While this is perfectly serviceable with these Dual Models, it has made every other toy that has had to transform be a cluttered, back-heavy kibbled mess that is about as far removed from the screen design as possible. If a screen-accurate transformable toy did exist, such a thing would be Metroplex-scaled, break apart into dozens if not hundreds of panels and hinges, and would be a price point that not even Fansproject would be willing to commit to.

This might be the wrong place to talk about engineering aesthetics, but it's been a pet peeve about this "knight" design for me for a long while now.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590268)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on July 13th, 2014 @ 4:24am CDT
Shuttershock wrote:
Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

What's really impressive is it's so simple, he basically turns inside-out. Hound even transforms in a similar way. I don't know why they didn't take that approach with leader Optimus and Galvatron.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590392)
Posted by Peridot on July 13th, 2014 @ 3:17pm CDT
I find it weird that the $10 One Step Changer and $12 Power Battler versions of Optimus both have more cohesive robot modes and less kibble than the $40-50 Leader Class figure.


Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590403)
Posted by Shuttershock on July 13th, 2014 @ 4:10pm CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

What's really impressive is it's so simple, he basically turns inside-out. Hound even transforms in a similar way. I don't know why they didn't take that approach with leader Optimus and Galvatron.


That's what annoys me even more about Galvatron's design. In the film (spoilers), he "transforms" by basically dematerializing into cubes and reforming as a robot, meaning that absolutely NO care has to be put into parts from vehicle mode fitting in. Because of this, they've just had to make him a shell-former with a semi-backpack.

In short, the movie designs and sensibilities are hindering the engineering of the toys.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590441)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 13th, 2014 @ 6:03pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

What's really impressive is it's so simple, he basically turns inside-out. Hound even transforms in a similar way. I don't know why they didn't take that approach with leader Optimus and Galvatron.


That's what annoys me even more about Galvatron's design. In the film (spoilers), he "transforms" by basically dematerializing into cubes and reforming as a robot, meaning that absolutely NO care has to be put into parts from vehicle mode fitting in. Because of this, they've just had to make him a shell-former with a semi-backpack.

In short, the movie designs and sensibilities are hindering the engineering of the toys.


A lot of that has to do with the fact that Hasbro is basically made to sit in a corner while Paramount handles most of the movie stuff. I really think Hasbro needs to step up and insist that the movie designers work alongside the toy designers.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590444)
Posted by Convoy on July 13th, 2014 @ 6:09pm CDT
I suspect the reason for having so little screentime for the robots in the previous movies is due to their "unrealistic" nature. I also suspect that this is why we see "melting" transformation, it's cheaper. By saving money on animating the very complex conversions on screen they were able to get more robots more screentime. If they had made blocky robots with a feasible transform they would have saved oodles of moola on the polygons alone.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590567)
Posted by Peridot on July 14th, 2014 @ 1:32am CDT
What I don't understand is this: How is coordinating thousands of tiny cubes to coalesce into a humanoid form "cheaper" than what we've seen for the past 3 movies?
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590570)
Posted by Shuttershock on July 14th, 2014 @ 2:03am CDT
Metro Prime wrote:What I don't understand is this: How is coordinating thousands of tiny cubes to coalesce into a humanoid form "cheaper" than what we've seen for the past 3 movies?



Hard to say. It seems like the cube thing would be a difficult but programmable particle-like effect, as opposed to having to take the time to figure out how car parts shift into place. Movie Galvatron has no visible truck parts because he digitizes, which to me cheapens the transforming aspect of this movie even more.

I get the feeling that the people designing the robots don't have a sense of engineering with their designs. It seems like they are just shown cars, told to draw robots and then leave it to Hasbro to sort out how one becomes the other.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590599)
Posted by Convoy on July 14th, 2014 @ 6:17am CDT
As a side note: You don't see Skids and Mudflap transform behind a curtain because it "looks cool". You don't see Drift transform behind a building because it "looks cool". You don't see a bunch of Transformers transform because the camera is zoomed all the way in on the knee or the shoulder during conversion. It can't look cool because you can't even see it.
These are cost saving measures.

EDIT:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
A lot of that has to do with the fact that Hasbro is basically made to sit in a corner while Paramount handles most of the movie stuff. I really think Hasbro needs to step up and insist that the movie designers work alongside the toy designers.


I'm a little surprised I'm only just now learning that Hasbro takes a back seat when it comes to the movies. In every other iteration I know of the fiction is based on the product with the exception of the non toy based characters.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590609)
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 14th, 2014 @ 7:50am CDT
Metro Prime wrote:What I don't understand is this: How is coordinating thousands of tiny cubes to coalesce into a humanoid form "cheaper" than what we've seen for the past 3 movies?

Both methods of transformation involve thousands of tiny little pieces moving everywhere. With "real" Transformers, you need to individualize the parts (i.e. gears, springs, pistons, etc. for each and every bot) and to make sure they all move in a believable fashion. With the KSI bots, you only need one actual model for everyone's parts (i.e. a cube) and they don't really need to worry about believability as much. It's still hard work, no doubt, but it probably takes only a fraction of the time/effort.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590648)
Posted by 1PrimeProductions on July 14th, 2014 @ 11:26am CDT
The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590690)
Posted by Convoy on July 14th, 2014 @ 2:01pm CDT
1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.


I understand that they explained the cost saving measures with "plot".
Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit DMK03 Optimus Prime (1590717)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 14th, 2014 @ 4:17pm CDT
1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.
According to what source?

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