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Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81

Transformers News: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81

Monday, June 6th, 2011 7:58AM CDT

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A little while back we told you about an interview The Allspark held with Transformers comic legend Simon Furman about the possible publishing of Transformers #81 to continue the original Marvel continuity.
Well our good friends have published the second part of this interview that goes a little more into detail about the actual continuation, we have a short run-down of all the major points for you:
  • The reason Optimus is oblivious the "big army of pissed off Decepticons massing" is because he's so shaken by his own death.
  • The carnage on Earth "makes All Hail Megatron look like the teddy bears’ picnic"
  • Return of Bludgeon, Galvatron, Megatron, Soundwave, Prowl, Grimlock
  • Characters killed by the end of #80 are still dead
  • Subplots: Grimlock goes off the rails trying to cure his Action Master condition. What happened to Scorponok's original head? What is the fate of Spike/Fort Max? What happened to the likes of Circuit Breaker and GB Blackrock?
  • Sticking to US continuity, BUT wants to bring Ultra Magnus into it and possibly the Wreckers
  • Simon envisions the characters close to their original 1980's G1 forms, but with Cybertronian alt modes
  • No Donny Finkleberg

For the interview in all of it's glory, please, use the following links to it on the Allspark.com:
Part 1
Part 2
Also, don't forget to sign the petition to get this published!
Credit(s): The Allspark
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Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1234900)
Posted by excalibur1814 on June 6th, 2011 @ 8:41am CDT
I'm a bit confused as, obviously, I've only ever read the UK G1 comic from issue 1 up to the final issue which was around(?) issue 300+. Does this mean that after issue 80 everything will be ignored?

"The original series lasted 80 issues!" ? Not in the UK

Confused?
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1234925)
Posted by Dead Metal on June 6th, 2011 @ 9:55am CDT
excalibur1814 wrote:I'm a bit confused as, obviously, I've only ever read the UK G1 comic from issue 1 up to the final issue which was around(?) issue 300+. Does this mean that after issue 80 everything will be ignored?

"The original series lasted 80 issues!" ? Not in the UK

Confused?

The UK issues are different.
Due to the UK comic publishing format (biweekly) Marvel UK rann out of US comic material to reprint pretty fast but the comic was going pretty strong. So in order to continue the TF comic series, the US material was spread out over multiple issues as a story ark with extra UK exclusive stories to fill the pages of the issue. This allowed for more character development, Ultra Magnus I believe existed only in one issue of the US comic, more stories and less plot holes.
For a better more detailed explanation see here
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Transformers ... #Marvel_UK
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1234929)
Posted by Cyberstrike on June 6th, 2011 @ 10:02am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:Lets see if us posting this can boost signatures for this petition.

Also, I might actually be interested in this, since it has nothing to do with the now ruined idw G1 comic.


IDW's ongoing comic is the best Transformers comic ever. I don't want to waste my time on bad 80/90s retro-book by a writer who is way past his prime.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235006)
Posted by Stormwolf on June 6th, 2011 @ 11:50am CDT
Cyberstrike wrote:IDW's ongoing comic is the best Transformers comic ever.


LOL, now I'd really love to see #81 made :lol:
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235064)
Posted by 1337W422102 on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:01pm CDT
Want so hard. And if he sneaks Death's Head in there, I will stain my pants, yes? :x
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235077)
Posted by Dead Metal on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:18pm CDT
Cyberstrike wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Lets see if us posting this can boost signatures for this petition.

Also, I might actually be interested in this, since it has nothing to do with the now ruined idw G1 comic.


IDW's ongoing comic is the best Transformers comic ever. I don't want to waste my time on bad 80/90s retro-book by a writer who is way past his prime.

I'm sorry, but are you still not over the fact that I don't have the same taste for thin spreaded badly written shlock like you?
Do you honestly have to keep quoting old posts of mine where I state my own opinion and taste just to tell me once again that you disagree with me? I mean, seriously even the newbies know that by now. Why can't I just stop buying and reading something I don't like, while at the same time voicing interest in something by the same company due to it being "relatively new and untarnished"?
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235093)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:33pm CDT
What happened to the likes of Circuit Breaker and GB Blackrock?


Even if this happens, how could he use those characters? Marvel owns them right? I remember for a while they weren't even allowed to reprint the stories characters like that appeared in.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235095)
Posted by Dead Metal on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:36pm CDT
Dark Optimum Supreme wrote:
What happened to the likes of Circuit Breaker and GB Blackrock?


Even if this happens, how could he use those characters? Marvel owns them right? I remember for a while they weren't even allowed to reprint the stories characters like that appeared in.

I believe they can use Blackrock due to not existing outside of the TF comics, also I guess Circuit Breaker might just be mentioned in dialogue or something like that.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235104)
Posted by Insidious on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:49pm CDT
Good stuff. The more they talk about it, the more likely it is to happen.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235105)
Posted by 1337W422102 on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:49pm CDT
Dead Metal wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Lets see if us posting this can boost signatures for this petition.

Also, I might actually be interested in this, since it has nothing to do with the now ruined idw G1 comic.


IDW's ongoing comic is the best Transformers comic ever. I don't want to waste my time on bad 80/90s retro-book by a writer who is way past his prime.

I'm sorry, but are you still not over the fact that I don't have the same taste for thin spreaded badly written shlock like you?
Do you honestly have to keep quoting old posts of mine where I state my own opinion and taste just to tell me once again that you disagree with me? I mean, seriously even the newbies know that by now. Why can't I just stop buying and reading something I don't like, while at the same time voicing interest in something by the same company due to it being "relatively new and untarnished"?

I don't know about "nuts" anymore, but Seibertron contains trolls, Metal Man.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235108)
Posted by Dead Metal on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:54pm CDT
1337W422102 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Lets see if us posting this can boost signatures for this petition.

Also, I might actually be interested in this, since it has nothing to do with the now ruined idw G1 comic.


IDW's ongoing comic is the best Transformers comic ever. I don't want to waste my time on bad 80/90s retro-book by a writer who is way past his prime.

I'm sorry, but are you still not over the fact that I don't have the same taste for thin spreaded badly written shlock like you?
Do you honestly have to keep quoting old posts of mine where I state my own opinion and taste just to tell me once again that you disagree with me? I mean, seriously even the newbies know that by now. Why can't I just stop buying and reading something I don't like, while at the same time voicing interest in something by the same company due to it being "relatively new and untarnished"?

I don't know about "nuts" anymore, but Seibertron contains trolls, Metal Man.

Yea, don't feed them :P
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235109)
Posted by excalibur1814 on June 6th, 2011 @ 2:55pm CDT
I do like the idw stuff and look forward to each new release but compared to the original (to me in the UK) 300+ comics, IDW doesn't compare as I feel that it's more mass-market, which as we all know, means that things get watered down.

Shame.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1235160)
Posted by Windsweeper on June 6th, 2011 @ 4:54pm CDT
I've long wondered about Scorponok's original head. Be nice to see him back. Would he be honourable without Zarak or would it be like Dreamwave's MTMTE profile where he suppressed his honourable side until he bonded with Zarak?

Hot Rod was prominently featured in Furman's US run yet he wasn't used to defeat Unicron as in the movie. We even got Thunderwing using the Matrix and mention of earlier Primes like Sentinel and Prime Nova but no Rodimus. I would love to see Hot Rod groomed for leadership.

BTW, I think Prime Nova sounds better than Nova Prime. Anyone else think so?

Liking the idea of a lot of the TF's returning to Cybertronan forms. Be cool to see the Titanium Seekers or WFC Soundwave.

There's only thing I don't want to see from the old Marvel comics: fleshy faces.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1240076)
Posted by Cyberstrike on June 15th, 2011 @ 10:22am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Lets see if us posting this can boost signatures for this petition.

Also, I might actually be interested in this, since it has nothing to do with the now ruined idw G1 comic.


IDW's ongoing comic is the best Transformers comic ever. I don't want to waste my time on bad 80/90s retro-book by a writer who is way past his prime.

I'm sorry, but are you still not over the fact that I don't have the same taste for thin spreaded badly written shlock like you?
Do you honestly have to keep quoting old posts of mine where I state my own opinion and taste just to tell me once again that you disagree with me? I mean, seriously even the newbies know that by now. Why can't I just stop buying and reading something I don't like, while at the same time voicing interest in something by the same company due to it being "relatively new and untarnished"?


Because I've sick of having this damn petition shoved down my damn throat every fan site I go to followed by the same bunch of damn whiny crybabies who can't accept the fact that there are a lot of people share my pov on Furman and think #81 is a bad idea and is a PR stunt. I got news for you having been a member of several non-TF comic book sites I've met MANY people who actually agree with me that Costa and McCarthy are far better than Furman. They just don't want to waste their time being flamed by whiny crybabies like you.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1240207)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 15th, 2011 @ 1:00pm CDT
Let's let this go gang...
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1240466)
Posted by REMINATOR on June 15th, 2011 @ 9:08pm CDT
Furman said those are dead will stay dead. Can someone lists me all the dead TFs? Also someone said UMagnus exist in 1 issue in US Comic, if memory serve correctly he only appeared in TFTM comic but none for the standard issue 1-80.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1246916)
Posted by Windsweeper on June 25th, 2011 @ 1:25pm CDT
Magnus never appeared in the US comics outside the Movie adaption.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1246923)
Posted by BlueFlame on June 25th, 2011 @ 1:44pm CDT
I signed the petition, but JUST SAY NO TO IGNORING THE G2 SERIES!!!

Why do writers feel the constant need to ignore established canon? Seriously, it's just lazy. Furman can easily continue the G1 series without ignoring or contradicting the G2 comic. Didn't he say in an interview somewhere that the idea was to bring the Marvel series into modern times? So if he's fastforwarding 20 years into the future, why ignore anything that happened in the G2 comic? Makes no sense whatsover. A couple of passing mentions to events in G2, and then never mention it again, and all the ppl who care about continuity are satisfied.

Furman has proven time and time again that he is an awesome writer. I don't understand this decision at all. I never saw him as one to take the easy way out. Ah well.
Re: Part 2 of the Simon Furman interview regarding Transformers #81 (1246979)
Posted by F Prime on June 25th, 2011 @ 4:32pm CDT
Cyberstrike wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Lets see if us posting this can boost signatures for this petition.

Also, I might actually be interested in this, since it has nothing to do with the now ruined idw G1 comic.


IDW's ongoing comic is the best Transformers comic ever. I don't want to waste my time on bad 80/90s retro-book by a writer who is way past his prime.

I'm sorry, but are you still not over the fact that I don't have the same taste for thin spreaded badly written shlock like you?
Do you honestly have to keep quoting old posts of mine where I state my own opinion and taste just to tell me once again that you disagree with me? I mean, seriously even the newbies know that by now. Why can't I just stop buying and reading something I don't like, while at the same time voicing interest in something by the same company due to it being "relatively new and untarnished"?


Because I've sick of having this damn petition shoved down my damn throat every fan site I go to followed by the same bunch of damn whiny crybabies who can't accept the fact that there are a lot of people share my pov on Furman and think #81 is a bad idea and is a PR stunt. I got news for you having been a member of several non-TF comic book sites I've met MANY people who actually agree with me that Costa and McCarthy are far better than Furman. They just don't want to waste their time being flamed by whiny crybabies like you.


Personally, I love the current ongoing series...and I love Furman's contributions and am quite excited about the prospect of issue 81.

I agree that views on Furman are highly varied and there are many who feel this is a PR stunt. However, I am not sure how a posting that is well labeled and can easily be avoided is shoving anything down anyone's throat. If it makes you angry you should probably just open a different thread, right?
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