Possible Combiner Wars Prowl Or Ratchet Reveal
Monday, April 20th, 2015 1:02PM CDT
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Thanks to fellow fan, collector and Seibertronian, chuckdawg1999, we have our first look at what appears to be a new Combiner Wars Deluxe Class figure! Looks like it could be either Prowl (since he's an SUV in the IDW comics) or Ironhide's "brother" Ratchet! (Ironhide appears to be using the Offroad version of this mold, and as history has shown us time and again, Ironhide and Ratchet share the same mold with slight modifications.)
Chuck shared the images he found with us and wanted us to share them with you, the community, so here they are!
Now, we must put this disclaimer in place: We cannot guarantee that this is, in fact, Combiner Wars Prowl or Ratchet, but it's not the first time that images such as these have indicated a future figure's release and as we know by now, Prowl is in computer systems as an upcoming figure release for sometime in the future. Chances are he will be released in the form the image suggests.
You might have already noticed, but if it hasn't become clear yet, the mold is a share with Offroad and First Aid, but featuring a new head with horns and likely a drastically changed paint job. (You can see Offroad's gallery by clicking here)
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
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Posted by Hero Alpha on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:05pm CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:08pm CDT
Moonshot wrote:Well since First Aid is one of my fav CW figures, I'm not that excited about Prowl sharing the mold since its not that Prowlish to me. I do need a good Prowl but I dont think this is it.
Interesting factoid I just learned: Prowl is an SUV in the IDW comics. This is as close to comic Prowl as we're going to get, it seems. I, like you, tend to forget that while the combiners themselves are going for G1 as much as possible in the toyline, the characters are IDW all the way. IDW and G1 technically aren't always the same universe, they just so happen to be interchangeable, which works for everyone.
Posted by Cobotron on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:08pm CDT
I was kinda hoping Prowl would be made from Rook. The way the wheels are in his chest is similar to the way Prowl is drawn in the comics currently. But this will be cool. Off Road is a fun mold.
I'm excited for the Autobot team!
Posted by LegendaryAntiHero on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:11pm CDT
Posted by peaces on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:16pm CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:27pm CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:44pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:So Prowl gets the Fist Aid version and Ironhide gets the Offroad version?
To quote the tfwiki, "Behold! The might of redeco potential!"
Posted by luks0r on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:48pm CDT
SUV. Horns. Re-mold of First Aid. The other one is Ironhide.
RATCHET, PEOPLE!!!!!
At least I hope so.
Posted by jbellanca on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:48pm CDT
Posted by Editor on April 20th, 2015 @ 1:51pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:01pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:12pm CDT
Anyway, my money here would be on Prowl since that's been a rumored release for awhile, but given that Ironhide has also been rumored for some time Ratchet wouldn't be outside the realm of impossibility. Really though, they'll probably all get done in some form or another.
Posted by Powered Convoy on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:16pm CDT
luks0r wrote:C'mob guys, I created an account just to contribute this which I'm surprised nobody else thought.
SUV. Horns. Re-mold of First Aid. The other one is Ironhide.
RATCHET, PEOPLE!!!!!
At least I hope so.
Yeah seems much more likely to be Ratchet to me.
Vehicle mode and the shape of the horns (no center crest) screams Ratchet to me instead of Prowl.
Randy
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:19pm CDT
Powered Convoy wrote:luks0r wrote:C'mob guys, I created an account just to contribute this which I'm surprised nobody else thought.
SUV. Horns. Re-mold of First Aid. The other one is Ironhide.
RATCHET, PEOPLE!!!!!
At least I hope so.
Yeah seems much more likely to be Ratchet to me.
Vehicle mode and the shape of the horns (no center crest) screams Ratchet to me instead of Prowl.
Randy
Think it's going to be Prowl. The current IDW Transformers comics already have Prowl in this form.
Posted by Hero Alpha on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:21pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Moonshot wrote:Well since First Aid is one of my fav CW figures, I'm not that excited about Prowl sharing the mold since its not that Prowlish to me. I do need a good Prowl but I dont think this is it.
Interesting factoid I just learned: Prowl is an SUV in the IDW comics. This is as close to comic Prowl as we're going to get, it seems. I, like you, tend to forget that while the combiners themselves are going for G1 as much as possible in the toyline, the characters are IDW all the way. IDW and G1 technically aren't always the same universe, they just so happen to be interchangeable, which works for everyone.
I know Prowl is an SUV in IDW but this robot mode looks nothing like IDW Prowl. I'm all for IDW style figures and prefer them since I love the comics(Whirl looking at you). Alt mode will almost work for IDW Prowl, although I would like them to throw a spare tire on him. But its a definite no on robot mode. Guess I will wait some more.
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:21pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Just curious guys, there have been reports that some TRUs and Walmarts are selling the deluxe limbs at 19.99$US. Has anyone come across that? I know walmart in canada sells their deluxes for 19.99$ but its in canadian currency so not necessarily a price increase over last year if we convert.
I'm in north Indiana, and Walmart has them 14.99; TRU is 16.99
Nevermind. Was at TRU today, and they raised the CW deluxe price to 19.99
Posted by Optimizzy on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:26pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:28pm CDT
Moonshot wrote:
I know Prowl is an SUV in IDW but this robot mode looks nothing like IDW Prowl. I'm all for IDW style figures and prefer them since I love the comics(Whirl looking at you). Alt mode will almost work for IDW Prowl, although I would like them to throw a spare tire on him. But its a definite no on robot mode. Guess I will wait some more.
Do you expect 100% accuracy from Hasbro of all people?
Posted by gothsaurus on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:30pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by Thadicon on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:36pm CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Powered Convoy wrote:luks0r wrote:C'mob guys, I created an account just to contribute this which I'm surprised nobody else thought.
SUV. Horns. Re-mold of First Aid. The other one is Ironhide.
RATCHET, PEOPLE!!!!!
At least I hope so.
Yeah seems much more likely to be Ratchet to me.
Vehicle mode and the shape of the horns (no center crest) screams Ratchet to me instead of Prowl.
Randy
Think it's going to be Prowl. The current IDW Transformers comics already have Prowl in this form.
I reckon its Ratchet too. Which would be a good update
Posted by Emerje on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:41pm CDT
Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.
That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.
Emerje
Posted by Deadput on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:46pm CDT
Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.
That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.
Emerje
Two reasons
1: Hasbro is too lazy to release a separate piece for a combiner even if it had articulation the other Contructicons lack.
2: Hasbro and others thinks that everything is confusing to kids because their stupid or something.
Posted by Cobotron on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:50pm CDT
If I recall (sorry don't feel like digging for OG post), the listing was for...
Deluxe Ironhide
Deluxe Mirage
Deluxe Prowl
Deluxe Sunstreaker.
If that is Ratchet, than maybe Rook CAN be Prowl.
Ironhidensh wrote:Nevermind. Was at TRU today, and they raised the CW deluxe price to 19.99
UP YOURS TOYS R US! Who do you think you are? How dumb do you think WE are?
I'm never shopping there again.
Here's hoping HTS hits us with another sweet promo code just before wave 3 shows up.
Posted by william-james88 on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:51pm CDT
Posted by pie-man on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:53pm CDT
Although, if it were Ratchet...... hmmmm. If I can't get my hands on a TFP Ratchet, I'd seriously think about it.
Although I think Rook would be a better re-tool into Prowl.
Finally.... I'd really really love it we'd get an alternate Prowl head for Generations Devastator. Kinda like that purple headmaster thingy that fits on Animated Leader Bulkhead.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:54pm CDT
luks0r wrote:C'mob guys, I created an account just to contribute this which I'm surprised nobody else thought.
SUV. Horns. Re-mold of First Aid. The other one is Ironhide.
RATCHET, PEOPLE!!!!!
At least I hope so.
Makes a LOT more sense than Prowl. F'n IDW.
Posted by lobsterclaw on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by ThunderThruster on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:56pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's Pikachu!
Posted by MrBlack on April 20th, 2015 @ 2:56pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:So Prowl gets the Fist Aid version and Ironhide gets the Offroad version?
To quote the tfwiki, "Behold! The might of redeco potential!"
In the next issue of Combiner Wars, Mirage and Sunstreaker change their alt-modes to trucks as well for some reason.
Posted by Rated X on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:01pm CDT
WJ88 makes a great point. After the release pattern of Drag Strip with 3 Aerialbots (etc.) and Hasbro's attempt at peg diversity, I wouldn't think they would have two of the same molds in one wave.
I just hope they don't use Dead End as Prowl. That mold is proving to be troublesome.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:02pm CDT
Posted by MrBlack on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:02pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.
That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.
Emerje
Two reasons
1: Hasbro is too lazy to release a separate piece for a combiner even if it had articulation the other Contructicons lack.
2: Hasbro and others thinks that everything is confusing to kids because their stupid or something.
It also wouldn't work for practical reasons.
Prowl replaced Scrapper, who is a leg on the current Devastator. To be comic accurate (the only reason to release Prowl as a component of Devastator), they would have to release a new version of Hook as well to form Devastator's right leg. I can't see them making two new Voyager figures just to accommodate a relatively small fan base.
Posted by Emerje on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:12pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.
That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.
Emerje
Two reasons
1: Hasbro is too lazy to release a separate piece for a combiner even if it had articulation the other Contructicons lack.
2: Hasbro and others thinks that everything is confusing to kids because their stupid or something.
Well I don't think it'll happen either, mainly because it would require Prowl to be a Voyager figure and we'd need a second Hook figure to become the leg. I'm just saying the "no one reads the comics" excuse doesn't work for a comic book based line that comes with comic books.
As far as price gauging at TRU goes, what else is new? The MSRP for CW is US$16.99 so TRU adding $3 to that isn't much of a shocker. Also keep in mind that each TRU sets their own prices, that's been a complaint with figure collectors for many, many years. Walmart doing it is a little more surprising, but I seem to remember them doing something similar a few years ago, I think with Dark of the Moon figures. For now the prices are still $14.96 at my local Walmarts, same as on the website.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:14pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Ya looking back at the pictures, that head crest is too swoopy to be Prowl's. It does look way more Ratchety.
WJ88 makes a great point. After the release pattern of Drag Strip with 3 Aerialbots (etc.) and Hasbro's attempt at peg diversity, I wouldn't think they would have two of the same molds in one wave.
Yeah, if this were really Prowl, then that would mean the same mold is used 4 times for mass release products which outweighs all other mold uses this year. It just doesn't add up to me. What I feel this is would be a preliminary drawing where the mold was used for ratchet and then the character was switched to Ironhide.
Not all blueprint drawings have made it into toys. I was looking at the inner workings of the design in the platinum insecticon box the other day and saw a gun Megatron toy, which clearly never happnened.
Posted by King Kuuga on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's Pikachu!
No, it's Jigglypuff seen from above!
Count me in with the folks that think this is probably Ratchet. It fits him more.
Posted by Editor on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:17pm CDT
Rated X wrote:So White Optimus, Prowl, Alpha Bravo, Rook, and Offroad (or a new technobot) will form the mighty Rejector.
Personally, I'd call him Offender-X.
Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.
That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.
Emerje
You do know that not all of us actually get comics with our releases.
Posted by shockblast2 on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:41pm CDT
Editor wrote:Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.
That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.
Emerje
You do know that not all of us actually get comics with our releases.
Yes, and I also know Hasbro considers those people a secondary market, that's why the releases are so spotty (however improved). Again, it's a comic book based toy line, you're either expected to buy the figures because you think they're cool or be willing to figure it out on your own if you haven't read the comics.
How did the War for/Fall of Cybertron figures sell so well without coming with the game?
Emerje
Posted by peaces on April 20th, 2015 @ 3:42pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 20th, 2015 @ 4:08pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Yes, and I also know Hasbro considers those people a secondary market, that's why the releases are so spotty (however improved). Again, it's a comic book based toy line, you're either expected to buy the figures because you think they're cool or be willing to figure it out on your own if you haven't read the comics.
How did the War for/Fall of Cybertron figures sell so well without coming with the game?
Emerje
Wait a minute there, this is not true. At all. Since the beginning of the brand's existence, the supplementary comic book fiction has been simply to sell toys. I get that you know comic readers are not the principle audience (boys from 5-12 are) but I believe that this alone is enough to justify that this is not a comic book based line. Toys take much longer to produce than comics, as if evident from the Skids spotlight issue. The comic book storyline was made to work in conjunction to the release of the toys, which is the principle event. It is not the other way around.
The combiner War comics are as secondary to the toys as the prequel comics are to the films.
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 20th, 2015 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by peaces on April 20th, 2015 @ 6:10pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on April 20th, 2015 @ 6:17pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:No...it doesn't. Some silly doodle in the back of a comic does not mean squat. Making Prowl an SUV doesn't even make sense.......
Ummmm Prowl is an Suv in the comics right now so it does make some sense.
Do you not read the comics or something?
Posted by sol magnus on April 20th, 2015 @ 6:27pm CDT
peaces wrote:we just got mp prowl. we don't need a cw prowl with his own mold. i wish we weren't getting a cw prowl at all. give other characters a chance.
Masterpiece Prowl does nothing for people who only collect Generations figures. I haven't seen a Prowl for the Generations line for some time now. I think he's one of the characters who does "need a chance" in that line. There are others, of course.
Posted by william-james88 on April 20th, 2015 @ 6:30pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:No...it doesn't. Some silly doodle in the back of a comic does not mean squat. Making Prowl an SUV doesn't even make sense.......
Ummmm Prowl is an Suv in the comics right now so it does make some sense.
Do you not read the comics or something?
We have to be fair though. While Prowl is an SUV in the comics right now, he is also part of devastator. And the toys are not doing that. So the comics are clearly not the clear cut indicator of what the toys will look. And plus, right now, every single comic book design has a cybertronian alt mode, which is not what I am seeing in these toys (although I must admit that the protectobots are very futuristic in design compared to the aerial bots and the stunticons).
Posted by Deadput on April 20th, 2015 @ 6:59pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
We have to be fair though. While Prowl is an SUV in the comics right now, he is also part of devastator. And the toys are not doing that. So the comics are clearly not the clear cut indicator of what the toys will look. And plus, right now, every single comic book design has a cybertronian alt mode, which is not what I am seeing in these toys (although I must admit that the protectobots are very futuristic in design compared to the aerial bots and the stunticons).
To also be fair a Prowl toy would not be able to go from a truck to a head without being a brick like the Contructicons are.
So I don't think that a barley articulated voyager Prowl released separately would sell very well especially since I don't think most of the kids would get it.
Plus I think that Prowl is going to leave the Contructicons soon since comic previews and such suggest that Scrapper is coming back.
With Mirage coming back to Cybertron with the Protectobots where Ironhide, Prowl and Optimus are we only need Sunstreaker to make that Optimus combiner from the toy listings.
Posted by YoungPrime on April 20th, 2015 @ 8:00pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Hey! It could be Ratchet. I like that idea. I need a Ratchet. Never got Classics after the fiasco known as Classics Ironhide.
If I recall (sorry don't feel like digging for OG post), the listing was for...
Deluxe Ironhide
Deluxe Mirage
Deluxe Prowl
Deluxe Sunstreaker.
If that is Ratchet, than maybe Rook CAN be Prowl.Ironhidensh wrote:Nevermind. Was at TRU today, and they raised the CW deluxe price to 19.99
UP YOURS TOYS R US! Who do you think you are? How dumb do you think WE are?
I'm never shopping there again.
Here's hoping HTS hits us with another sweet promo code just before wave 3 shows up.
Yeah, I haven't bought a thing from TRU in like 2 years and with these idiots charge BBTS rates you might as well get them online early.
Posted by Autobot032 on April 20th, 2015 @ 8:55pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:No...it doesn't. Some silly doodle in the back of a comic does not mean squat. Making Prowl an SUV doesn't even make sense.......
Ummmm Prowl is an Suv in the comics right now so it does make some sense.
Do you not read the comics or something?
You'd be amazed how many don't read the comics. I'm one of those people. Nothing personal against the comics themselves, I just don't have any interest in any comics, period.
Onto the toys...
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned such a thought (and I'm not going to read through this entire thread...) but there's a tremendous missed opportunity for Hasbro, Takara and Toys R Us.
Much like the AOE Evolution 2-Packs, they could've made some money (and fans happy) by packing current Combiner Wars figures with their G1 counterparts. Seriously would've made some big collector money, because we'd have thrown down cash for complete G1 combiners along with the current ones.
I know figures like Alpha Bravo would be left out of the loop (but they could still have a place on the pegs and shelves) and I can't figure out why they haven't cashed in on such an idea. Scrap the die-cast, make 'em all plastic to cut costs, and beat the KO makers at their own game. Even compete with 3rd party as well, and BEAT them.
It's a shame they haven't done it.