Possible First Look at Transformers Power of the Primes Waverider Decoy Suit Mold
Wednesday, October 11th, 2017 10:48AM CDT
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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The Pretender Shell is indeed an early release of a PotP toy, but one we never saw announced or even leaked. The detailing points towards the shell belonging to Waverider aka Diver:
Transformers Super God Masterforce Waverider (Diver) Gallery
However the arms show the future Waverider toy will be a retool of Cloudburst:
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Posted by Rated X on October 11th, 2017 @ 11:16am CDT
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 11th, 2017 @ 11:34am CDT
Yes, this is important informaiton for me.
Since the begining I was wondering how the pretender shells were suppposed to attach to other figures, I was afraid they should connect to the male ports used for attaching the new hands-foots-armor, apparently, no they have a classic 5Mm port, which made them usable by any figure.
Great news.
(Yes, I already planned to use potp Metalhawk shell for TR Metalhawk)
Posted by Nightbeat339 on October 11th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 11th, 2017 @ 12:56pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Im not a huge fan of how hasbros taking on the pretenders for potp. I liked the old way funpub started with the shell becoming the robot. Granted that was a total fail for the autobot human characters. So this scale makes sense. But I cant help feel like this scale will cheat us of ever getting real figures of these characters. These things feel more like kids meal toys than something that should be sold as part of a main line. Same thing with the titan masters that didn't get actual bodies.
Yeah I'd like the Pretender concept revisited properly sometime.
Posted by Flashwave on October 11th, 2017 @ 1:03pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:Im not a huge fan of how hasbros taking on the pretenders for potp. I liked the old way funpub started with the shell becoming the robot. Granted that was a total fail for the autobot human characters. So this scale makes sense. But I cant help feel like this scale will cheat us of ever getting real figures of these characters. These things feel more like kids meal toys than something that should be sold as part of a main line. Same thing with the titan masters that didn't get actual bodies.
Yeah I'd like the Pretender concept revisited properly sometime.
What more do you want? Its a poseless, human shaped brick that opens up to reveal a small robot that sorta transforms into something.
Seriously, as Pretenders go, I think this is the best they can hope fpr in this day and age. Anything larger is going to be expected to be more like an action figure for the kiddie market or ot wont sell to the general public (yes, I know the collectors would eat it up.) with this, you have your suit of armor and you can even almost see a head in the helmet. And with tje targetmaster option, they are marginLly more useful than paperweights.
Posted by Overcracker on October 11th, 2017 @ 2:03pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:Im not a huge fan of how hasbros taking on the pretenders for potp. I liked the old way funpub started with the shell becoming the robot. Granted that was a total fail for the autobot human characters. So this scale makes sense. But I cant help feel like this scale will cheat us of ever getting real figures of these characters. These things feel more like kids meal toys than something that should be sold as part of a main line. Same thing with the titan masters that didn't get actual bodies.
Yeah I'd like the Pretender concept revisited properly sometime.
Like how?
The only difference between these and the original concept is size. Otherwise the function is identical, and these get the benefit of an added weapon mode for the shell.
Not sure how Hasbro would market static shells with smaller robots that turn into non-descript vehicles inside in a larger scale to modern audiences.
If anything the Mega Pretenders may be more marketable in a larger scale, with transforming shells, and a combination gimmick between the shell and inner robot in vehicle mode.
Posted by Flashwave on October 11th, 2017 @ 2:06pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:Im not a huge fan of how hasbros taking on the pretenders for potp. I liked the old way funpub started with the shell becoming the robot. Granted that was a total fail for the autobot human characters. So this scale makes sense. But I cant help feel like this scale will cheat us of ever getting real figures of these characters. These things feel more like kids meal toys than something that should be sold as part of a main line. Same thing with the titan masters that didn't get actual bodies.
Yeah I'd like the Pretender concept revisited properly sometime.
Like how?
The only difference between these and the original concept is size. Otherwise the function is identical, and these get the benefit of an added weapon mode for the shell.
Not sure how Hasbro would market static shells with smaller robots that turn into non-descript vehicles inside in a larger scale to modern audiences.
If anything the Mega Pretenders may be more marketable in a larger scale, with transforming shells, and a combination gimmick between the shell and inner robot in vehicle mode.
And we are sorta dancing around that with the Evolution Leader Class figures. its not exact, as the outer shell is an otherwise lifeless trailer, but thats only a short hop away.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 11th, 2017 @ 2:17pm CDT
Nightbeat339 wrote:I would love if Waverider was sold individually, just like the other Prime Masters. He's my favorite pretender so I've been hoping they'd release some new version of him.
He will be, but no sooner than a year from now. He may be Wave 4 or even 5, and has no Prime attached to him yet, but by checking off the confirmed ones, we know it's gonna be either Amalgamous Prime, Onyx Prime or even Prima.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 11th, 2017 @ 2:30pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:The only difference between these and the original concept is size. Otherwise the function is identical, and these get the benefit of an added weapon mode for the shell.
So after 30 years of toy technology progress the only thing Hasbro could think up to reimagine the Pretender concept was to shrink them down into tiny little figures that turn into crappy looking Targetmaster weapons? Add to that the characters seem to be messed up (the Skullgrin inner robot being Liege Maximo even though it resembles Skullgrin himself and that they turn into mostly goofy Titan Master heads just really kill it for me. Not saying the vehicle modes of the original Pretenders were works of art and most were just folded over limbs but I had a fondness for some such as Cloudburst and Landmine's alt-modes that could be redone to look better with better transformations while still keeping a robot that could be compressed into an outer shell. I dunno maybe with a shell that's like an Iron Man-sorta suit that is applied in pieces where perhaps the robot's arm and leg joints extend out to accomodate the extra room needed for the articulation of the shell's limbs. The shell could still then be seperated put together by itself, perhaps not having the same level of articulation afforded by clipping the pieces to the robot but still clipping together to have at least as much as the original Pretender shell if not more (could have turning waist joint and hip joints done like the shoulders. Just wish they'd something with some imagination and creativity. These new figures just look like cheap-looking lazy crap to me that definitely don't even feel 3 years worth superior to the original Pretenders, let alone 30.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 11th, 2017 @ 2:46pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Overcracker wrote:The only difference between these and the original concept is size. Otherwise the function is identical, and these get the benefit of an added weapon mode for the shell.
So after 30 years of toy technology progress the only thing Hasbro could think up to reimagine the Pretender concept was to shrink them down into tiny little figures that turn into crappy looking Targetmaster weapons? Add to that the characters seem to be messed up (the Skullgrin inner robot being Liege Maximo even though it resembles Skullgrin himself and that they turn into mostly goofy Titan Master heads just really kill it for me. Not saying the vehicle modes of the original Pretenders were works of art and most were just folded over limbs but I had a fondness for some such as Cloudburst and Landmine's alt-modes that could be redone to look better with better transformations while still keeping a robot that could be compressed into an outer shell. I dunno maybe with a shell that's like an Iron Man-sorta suit that is applied in pieces where perhaps the robot's arm and leg joints extend out to accomodate the extra room needed for the articulation of the shell's limbs. The shell could still then be seperated put together by itself, perhaps not having the same level of articulation afforded by clipping the pieces to the robot but still clipping together to have at least as much as the original Pretender shell if not more (could have turning waist joint and hip joints done like the shoulders. Just wish they'd something with some imagination and creativity. These new figures just look like cheap-looking lazy crap to me that definitely don't even feel 3 years worth superior to the original Pretenders, let alone 30.
To be fair, Hasbro tried to combine two gimmicks into one with them, and that's always been a bit risky. Don't worry about TakaraTomy, I'm fully expecting them to retool the Prime Master to have their original Pretender robot heads. Do be aware that two are pretools: Landmine out of Metalhawk, and Waverider out of Cloudburst, differing only in head plate and shell front.
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 11th, 2017 @ 3:32pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Yeah I'd like the Pretender concept revisited properly sometime.
It's exactly what they did : they revisited the concept. (In the probably the most pertinent way considering the source material if you want my opinion)
Maye you wanted to say "I'd like the Pretender concept remade exactly as before, just with more articulations".
Posted by Overcracker on October 11th, 2017 @ 3:35pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Overcracker wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:Im not a huge fan of how hasbros taking on the pretenders for potp. I liked the old way funpub started with the shell becoming the robot. Granted that was a total fail for the autobot human characters. So this scale makes sense. But I cant help feel like this scale will cheat us of ever getting real figures of these characters. These things feel more like kids meal toys than something that should be sold as part of a main line. Same thing with the titan masters that didn't get actual bodies.
Yeah I'd like the Pretender concept revisited properly sometime.
Like how?
The only difference between these and the original concept is size. Otherwise the function is identical, and these get the benefit of an added weapon mode for the shell.
Not sure how Hasbro would market static shells with smaller robots that turn into non-descript vehicles inside in a larger scale to modern audiences.
If anything the Mega Pretenders may be more marketable in a larger scale, with transforming shells, and a combination gimmick between the shell and inner robot in vehicle mode.
And we are sorta dancing around that with the Evolution Leader Class figures. its not exact, as the outer shell is an otherwise lifeless trailer, but thats only a short hop away.
Very true. If the Evolution gimmick can "evolve" (forgive the pun ), so that the trailer has a robot mode unto itself, it can totally be used for Mega Pretenders, and even update regular Pretenders for it.
That's a good idea.
Carnivius-Prime wrote:
So after 30 years of toy technology progress the only thing Hasbro could think up to reimagine the Pretender concept was to shrink them down into tiny little figures that turn into crappy looking Targetmaster weapons? Add to that the characters seem to be messed up (the Skullgrin inner robot being Liege Maximo even though it resembles Skullgrin himself and that they turn into mostly goofy Titan Master heads just really kill it for me. Not saying the vehicle modes of the original Pretenders were works of art and most were just folded over limbs but I had a fondness for some such as Cloudburst and Landmine's alt-modes that could be redone to look better with better transformations while still keeping a robot that could be compressed into an outer shell. I dunno maybe with a shell that's like an Iron Man-sorta suit that is applied in pieces where perhaps the robot's arm and leg joints extend out to accomodate the extra room needed for the articulation of the shell's limbs. The shell could still then be seperated put together by itself, perhaps not having the same level of articulation afforded by clipping the pieces to the robot but still clipping together to have at least as much as the original Pretender shell if not more (could have turning waist joint and hip joints done like the shoulders. Just wish they'd something with some imagination and creativity. These new figures just look like cheap-looking lazy crap to me that definitely don't even feel 3 years worth superior to the original Pretenders, let alone 30.
So basically forgo the Pretender concept, and just make them wear Armor. So not really Pretenders anymore. So basically forget the entire reason people remember them for.
Unfortunately the Pretender concept is not a good one in practice.
If you want updated versions of Pretender characters that incorporate both the shell and the inner robots features, then we have been getting some of those. Generations Skullgrin, Thunderwing more recently Metalhawk and Black Shadow (Sky Shadow)
There have been pretender updates without the pretender shell.
This time we get some actual shells which for me work better in a smaller size, and the targetmaster gimmick is functional enough. I'ts hard to take a humanoid shape and turn it into a convincing gun while still allowing for a smaller robot to fit inside.
Also really how much following do these characters have to warrant a larger line of Pretenders? I doubt Hasbro couldn't have come up with a better larger updated, but I doubt it would have been worth it. Not many cared for Metalhawk in the boxset. Not sure there'd be much demand for Birdbrain or Icepick or Iguanus. Who even remembers what their inner robots transformed into?
Posted by o.supreme on October 11th, 2017 @ 3:48pm CDT
http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/King_Hiss
The Body was 2 pieces , but the arms were separate pieces which allowed for articulation. There was no change in the legs, but its not difficult to imagine the same concept.
Posted by Kurona on October 11th, 2017 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 11th, 2017 @ 5:42pm CDT
Kurona wrote:At a tiny size and price point, with a feature of turning into a weapon and bundled with the big-name 13... I think that's the only way these could get done.
Plus the fact they're now armors compatibles with all titan masters and prime masters, for me it's more than "the only way to do it", it's just the genius way to do it. The perfect occasion/timing to revisit the concept.
Posted by bodrock on October 11th, 2017 @ 10:12pm CDT
I'll most likely buy all the Prime Masters when they finally arrive -- I can't wait!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 11th, 2017 @ 10:32pm CDT
bodrock wrote:I'll most likely buy all the Prime Masters when they finally arrive -- I can't wait!
At the very least I'm geting the classic 6 plus Metalhawk, just for the suits.
Posted by bodrock on October 11th, 2017 @ 10:39pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bodrock wrote:I'll most likely buy all the Prime Masters when they finally arrive -- I can't wait!
At the very least I'm geting the classic 6 plus Metalhawk, just for the suits.
I'm looking forward to Metalhawk the most, as well as the other Autobot Prime/Pretenders....since I only have Groundbreaker, and I think the humanoid-ish (?) shells are perfect in this scale. But the Cons just look so cool.
The Prime Master Cons won't be replacing the originals by any stretch - but I bet they'll make great weapons for their G1 brethren. Especially since their accessories can be expensive to replace!
I'm really looking forward to seeing more PotP reveals....perhaps the Seacons?
Posted by King Kuuga on October 11th, 2017 @ 11:06pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Are you ready for some new Transformers Generations rumours? The last list was from a while back so I think we are overdue. These rumours all come from a post on 4 chan so take all of these with a grain of salt and it will be fun to see what pans out. The reason we are newsing this now is because some rumblings from toyfair seem to back part of it up, especially the mention of smaller figures still being a part of the next line.
These rumours mostly concern the last part of the trilogy, Power of the Primes which is due out in stores January 2018, but there is also mention of Titans Return since there will possibly be transition figures like Buzzsaw in Combiner Wars.
Here is the text found above if you have trouble reading it:Prime Wars next Gimmick is toys to life. Download an App and scan the card that comes with the figure onto your iphone. Play "stages"(it's unkown what type of game it's going to be) using said character.
Well right off the bat, this is not the case. As we know now, the gimmick is combining again for the deluxe and voyager figures, Prime Master integration especially in the legends class, and evolution for leaders.
Titanmasters will be replaced by equally smaller guys. They won't be headmasters but closer to Micromasters that become target masters or weapon platforms.
Legends will still be able to cart the tiny men around
Mostly true and true.
Prime Wars will still be mostly 88-89 crew. Things like Turbomasters will show up from time to time.
So far, nope. The Prime Masters with Decoy Armor are, of course, all modeled after the Pretenders but the rest of the line seems to hearken from the earlier days of G1, with a few exceptions.
All 5 Dinobots will be made
Yep
as well as the remaining 3 insecticons will appear. Ransack will show up towards the end of TR as will Barrage. Venom will either be Wave 6 of TR or Wave 1 of PW. He's like Buzzsaw in CW where he may not be able to fit into wave 1.
Nope
Scorponok will be Next Titan after Trypticon
Definitely nope.
TR Arcee is just a repaint of TR Loudmouth
Thankfully she was much more than that!
So maybe 30% of the rumor was correct, all told.
Here's another post:
Sigma Magnus wrote:Thanks to Autovolt on Twitter, we've been alerted to a post on 4chan that supposedly reveals some previously unknown information about the upcoming Power of the Primes line! Take it with a grain of salt, however - this is in no way a confirmation. The post itself is below, as well as a transcript in case it's too small to read. Check it out, and let us know your thoughts in the Energon Pub!There's a Beast Wars subline to Power of the Primes next year. I work at Amazon and this will be a shared online exclusive. Us and BBTS.
No original molds, but we will get the Takara Blackarachnia mold in the US from it. Eight Deluxe and two Voyagers, Primal and Megatron. Primal is a retool of the PotP Apeface. Megatron is a retool of PotP Snapdragon. They won't have Titan Masters, so don't worry.
(The PotP Grimlock is Leader sized, so it was never a consideration to be retooled as Megatron.)
TR Apeface and Snapdragon didn't happen and POTP Grimlock is a voyager. Puts the rest of the rumor in very shaky ground. I won't say it's 100% debunked since we only know the retail 2018 releases but it's highly unlikely that Amazon will get that many exclusives.
Posted by WreckerJack on October 12th, 2017 @ 3:32am CDT
Posted by frogbat on October 12th, 2017 @ 9:05am CDT
So fast forward to the PotP reveals and am pleasantly surprised by these. I love the titans returns line but never bothered with the little figures sold separately. These however, I think I'll try and pick up as much as possible.... Something about the collectibility, the homage and the way they integrated the little figures and their subsequent added "target master" functionality... I kinda prefer this gimmick to the evolution ones...
Posted by Sabrblade on October 12th, 2017 @ 10:26am CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 12th, 2017 @ 10:29am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I can't help but wonder if one of the whole reasons for Hasbro even creating the human/monster-based Pretenders back in 1988 was to compete with the then-new-popular Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series with all its mutant and human toys taking over the toy shelves in all the stores at the time.
Wasn't it because of He-Man?
Either way there's no doubt that they come up with it for that sort of reason, no matter what franchises inspired them. The brand was starting to fail and they figured they needed to do what was popular with the kids.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 12th, 2017 @ 10:34am CDT
That came out before Transformers.Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I can't help but wonder if one of the whole reasons for Hasbro even creating the human/monster-based Pretenders back in 1988 was to compete with the then-new-popular Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series with all its mutant and human toys taking over the toy shelves in all the stores at the time.
Wasn't it because of He-Man?
Posted by o.supreme on October 12th, 2017 @ 10:37am CDT
Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I can't help but wonder if one of the whole reasons for Hasbro even creating the human/monster-based Pretenders back in 1988 was to compete with the then-new-popular Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series with all its mutant and human toys taking over the toy shelves in all the stores at the time.
Wasn't it because of He-Man?
Either way there's no doubt that they come up with it for that sort of reason, no matter what franchises inspired them. The brand was starting to fail and they figured they needed to do what was popular with the kids.
Nah, I was a HUGE MOTU fan as well (well still am but...) after the failure of the 1987 live-action film, the MOTU toy line was pretty much done by 1988.
I'm not sure if Pretenders came out in 1988 because of TMNT, but it would not surprise me, that was really the year TMNT started to really gain momentum and popularity.
It was also the year I basically stopped collecting all toys, I was in 7th grade and the transition from elementary to Jr. High definitely meant no more toys, I still watched the cartoons though...Man am I glad I got over that phase fast, and immediately went back into toys after highschool .
Posted by Relic0037 on October 12th, 2017 @ 11:48am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 12th, 2017 @ 12:08pm CDT
the likes of Sky Shadow, Bludgeon and Metalhawk, where they have the inner robot and shell sort of fused together into a hybrid, works really well, giving the characters a fun transforming robot that has the main attraction's looks.
The prime masters are great too, even if the inner robot is a member of the 13 that turns into an artifact with titan master compatibility with a robot mode inspired by the inner robot of the actual pretender. They have the shell, and the shell can do more too, forming a weapon, and they are cheap little guys too, good for mass collecting.
If we got a generations version of what we got with Botcon Oilmaster (legends figure inside shell), but with some limb movement for the shell, that could turn out pretty good too. You could have a $10 or maybe cheaper legends/legion figure inside a shell that can move, and sell it at a deluxe-ish pricepoint or a bit higher, like some of the larger kiddier toys like the shampoo formers.
Posted by RodimusRex on October 12th, 2017 @ 5:35pm CDT
There's the Clobber mold obviously and the Takara exclusive Starscream Titanmaster. That leaves Jazz and Bumblebee.
Maybe they could turn up with store exclusive redeco of TR figures ala Arcee/Leinad and Grotesque/Scorponok. I do feel like if you're going to release more heads (and I'd like this) you need to release more TR redecos as joint releases for them to have play value.
There are a few strong contenders like Crosshairs from Kup, Laser Magnus from Laser Prime/Octane, maybe WFC seekers from Misfire and Slugslinger, Xaaron from Megatron/Blitzwing.
Posted by Burn on October 12th, 2017 @ 6:22pm CDT
They only need the shell to split from the waist up. That leaves the legs for articulation. Have the shell split 2/3 of the way and you also leave the shoulders intact for articulation. Essentially, the inner robot has to fold up to fit into a chest/stomach cavity.
Posted by Kurona on October 12th, 2017 @ 6:27pm CDT
Posted by Burn on October 12th, 2017 @ 6:55pm CDT
Kurona wrote:That seems like it'd result in a very small inner robot...
If you're talking PotP Pretenders than yeah, but if you go deluxe size then you can fit a legends size in.
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 12th, 2017 @ 8:14pm CDT
Burn wrote:If you're talking PotP Pretenders than yeah, but if you go deluxe size then you can fit a legends size in.
No, with the solution you describe you need at least a voyager to fit a legends. And it will be with a big belly and/or big backpack.
Posted by Burn on October 12th, 2017 @ 8:15pm CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:Burn wrote:If you're talking PotP Pretenders than yeah, but if you go deluxe size then you can fit a legends size in.
No, with the solution you describe you need at least a voyager to fit a legends.
Either works.
Posted by bodrock on October 12th, 2017 @ 11:37pm CDT
Burn wrote:ExciKaiser wrote:Burn wrote:If you're talking PotP Pretenders than yeah, but if you go deluxe size then you can fit a legends size in.
No, with the solution you describe you need at least a voyager to fit a legends.
Either works.
Yeah, I'm cool with that!
Posted by Emerje on October 12th, 2017 @ 11:40pm CDT
Though, what I like about the Prime Masters is it gives us something that looks a little like this:
Emerje
Posted by bodrock on October 13th, 2017 @ 12:00am CDT
I didn't really dig the humanoid G1 shells due to scaling...but think it's perfect for the Decepticon kaiju.
Posted by Burn on October 13th, 2017 @ 12:40am CDT
Emerje wrote:Would it be a problem if not the entire inner bot was covered by the shell? I mean, why does it need to be? Instead of sticking the bot's legs into the shell's legs why not make *most* of the bot fold up into the torso with part of it hanging out the back? Maybe the arms or legs configured to look like a back pack or let wings stick out? Do that and you could fit a larger bot inside of a smaller shell, say a fully articulated Voyager shell with an inner bot somewhere between a Legend and a Deluxe.
Emerje
My personal preference would be for the shell to be whole. What you propose I imagine would leave a whole in the back of the shell and in my mind, the shell should be able to work independently of the bot once its removed.
Regardless, your suggestion would still be an improvement over what we're getting
(And I actually am looking forward to what we're getting, I just hoped for more)
Posted by Emerje on October 13th, 2017 @ 5:11am CDT
Burn wrote:Emerje wrote:Would it be a problem if not the entire inner bot was covered by the shell? I mean, why does it need to be? Instead of sticking the bot's legs into the shell's legs why not make *most* of the bot fold up into the torso with part of it hanging out the back? Maybe the arms or legs configured to look like a back pack or let wings stick out? Do that and you could fit a larger bot inside of a smaller shell, say a fully articulated Voyager shell with an inner bot somewhere between a Legend and a Deluxe.
Emerje
My personal preference would be for the shell to be whole. What you propose I imagine would leave a whole in the back of the shell and in my mind, the shell should be able to work independently of the bot once its removed.
Howabout a shield that doubles as a back cover?
Emerje
Posted by Burn on October 13th, 2017 @ 5:32am CDT
Emerje wrote:Burn wrote:Emerje wrote:Would it be a problem if not the entire inner bot was covered by the shell? I mean, why does it need to be? Instead of sticking the bot's legs into the shell's legs why not make *most* of the bot fold up into the torso with part of it hanging out the back? Maybe the arms or legs configured to look like a back pack or let wings stick out? Do that and you could fit a larger bot inside of a smaller shell, say a fully articulated Voyager shell with an inner bot somewhere between a Legend and a Deluxe.
Emerje
My personal preference would be for the shell to be whole. What you propose I imagine would leave a whole in the back of the shell and in my mind, the shell should be able to work independently of the bot once its removed.
Howabout a shield that doubles as a back cover?
Emerje
Could work, or even flaps that double as "wings" or something when the bot is in.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 13th, 2017 @ 6:10am CDT
Speaking of larger Pretenders...seeing as a Grand Max TR Fort Max repaint seems to be happening...hopefully they'll somehow do a Pretender Shell for Cerebros...a bit like the original did
Posted by Big Grim on October 13th, 2017 @ 7:34am CDT
~ Grim
Posted by Insurgent on October 13th, 2017 @ 8:22am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:or how about Ultra Pretenders? you could fit a bigger figure in still
Speaking of larger Pretenders...seeing as a Grand Max TR Fort Max repaint seems to be happening...hopefully they'll somehow do a Pretender Shell for Cerebros...a bit like the original did
They've said if they get over 3000 preorders, they'll make an exclusive transparent pretender shell for the Cerebros head titan master dude.
Posted by bacem on October 13th, 2017 @ 7:25pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on October 13th, 2017 @ 8:31pm CDT
Insurgent wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:or how about Ultra Pretenders? you could fit a bigger figure in still
Speaking of larger Pretenders...seeing as a Grand Max TR Fort Max repaint seems to be happening...hopefully they'll somehow do a Pretender Shell for Cerebros...a bit like the original did
They've said if they get over 3000 preorders, they'll make an exclusive transparent pretender shell for the Cerebros head titan master dude.
I think Mega Pretenders are more likely than Ultra to ever see a return. Ultras are really just Megas with a big vehicle they can be crammed inside anyway and I don't think kids would really go for those these days.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 13th, 2017 @ 8:33pm CDT
Rodimus Unicronus
Posted by bodrock on October 13th, 2017 @ 8:42pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Insurgent wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:or how about Ultra Pretenders? you could fit a bigger figure in still
Speaking of larger Pretenders...seeing as a Grand Max TR Fort Max repaint seems to be happening...hopefully they'll somehow do a Pretender Shell for Cerebros...a bit like the original did
They've said if they get over 3000 preorders, they'll make an exclusive transparent pretender shell for the Cerebros head titan master dude.
I think Mega Pretenders are more likely than Ultra to ever see a return. Ultras are really just Megas with a big vehicle they can be crammed inside anyway and I don't think kids would really go for those these days.
Emerje
But Roadblock was so cool, Emerje!
You have a point, though -- besides the fanbase, why would HasBro bother to add another shell? At least with the Megas, you'd get a transforming shell and innerbot.
Posted by Bronzewolf on October 13th, 2017 @ 11:01pm CDT
We also have our first image of the back of Rodimus Unicronus' packaging, although this image seems to be too low of a resolution to make any specific text out, such as his bio.
Check out both scans below!
Posted by Etseterrestrial on October 13th, 2017 @ 11:22pm CDT
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on October 13th, 2017 @ 11:51pm CDT
Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 14th, 2017 @ 6:23am CDT