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Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4

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Tuesday, September 3rd, 2013 10:38AM CDT

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We have what could be a major spoiler regarding the upcoming 4th Transformers live action film. Evac167, a TFW2005 user, has obtained a spy photo of a prop from one of the filming locations that could indicate the return of a character from the previous films. If you're still interested and don't mind what could be a pretty big spoiler scroll on down............

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Those who are keeping us with all the spoilerific news will recall yesterday's trademark news mentioned the application for "Megatron Returns", well check this out:

Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character
Credit(s): Evac167, a TFW2005 user
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Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515517)
Posted by Ravage XK on September 3rd, 2013 @ 10:48am CDT
Well, he was dead and came back before so why not again and again and again?
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515523)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 3rd, 2013 @ 10:59am CDT
Michael Bay sure has a turn on for reviving the dead, that's for sure.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515524)
Posted by Flakmaster on September 3rd, 2013 @ 11:04am CDT
Because it's worked once, so why not again? It's not like the action-and-boobs addicted people who will make up most of the non-TF fan audience will care. :michaelbay:

Sure, it might be a bit fun, but I can't believe that anyone who is a TF fan and cares about the story will be able to appreciate another Megatron return instead of something original and interesting. :BOOM:

I'll bet we'll even get a Force Ghost of The Fallen that will guide Megatron, and Optimus will die of shame because his paint job gets scratched up, and Sam and his next busty girlfriend will need to go and find a wierd faux-Lovecraftian-looking Cybertronian Mcguffin along with some foul-mouthed Autobots, and then use the Mcguffin to give Optimus a new paint job and resurrect him so that Hasbro can sell more Optimus Prime toys. Then Optimus will rip Megatron's face off and throw it INTO THE SUN, but SPACE ROBOT MAGIC will let the head survive until the next film so that he can be resurrected again, just like how the depths of the ocean was supposed to crush Megatron's body to uselessness in the first film's ending.

*End idiotic, hate-laced anti-movie rant*

Alright, that was full of assumption and the film probably won't be that bad, but boy was baseless ranting fun. :oops:
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515528)
Posted by ARCTrooperAlpha on September 3rd, 2013 @ 11:14am CDT
Flakmaster wrote:Because it's worked once, so why not again? It's not like the action-and-boobs addicted people who will make up most of the non-TF fan audience will care. :michaelbay:

Sure, it might be a bit fun, but I can't believe that anyone who is a TF fan and cares about the story will be able to appreciate another Megatron return instead of something original and interesting. :BOOM:

I'll bet we'll even get a Force Ghost of The Fallen that will guide Megatron, and Optimus will die of shame because his paint job gets scratched up, and Sam and his next busty girlfriend will need to go and find a wierd faux-Lovecraftian-looking Cybertronian Mcguffin along with some foul-mouthed Autobots, and then use the Mcguffin to give Optimus a new paint job and resurrect him so that Hasbro can sell more Optimus Prime toys. Then Optimus will rip Megatron's face off and throw it INTO THE SUN, but SPACE ROBOT MAGIC will let the head survive until the next film so that he can be resurrected again, just like how the depths of the ocean was supposed to crush Megatron's body to uselessness in the first film's ending.

*End idiotic, hate-laced anti-movie rant*

Alright, that was full of assumption and the film probably won't be that bad, but boy was baseless ranting fun. :oops:


Indeed, that was pretty darn funny : )
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515530)
Posted by jeprime1983 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 11:14am CDT
Perhaps its wreckage recoveredby Kelsey grammer's organization. Perhaps the organizationis studying it? Idk just a theory
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515531)
Posted by Jack Hallows on September 3rd, 2013 @ 11:18am CDT
hopefully he becomes galvatron. there's just no way a transformer could come back from having their brain module sheared in half by an energon axe and subsequently decapitated with extreme prejudice. cuz if they could bring megatron back from this state using tech, jazz's injuries would seem like a skinned knee. and he's super dead.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515532)
Posted by Ravage XK on September 3rd, 2013 @ 11:28am CDT
So could Jetfire come back? He ripped his spark out but could it not simply be put back in a new/repaired body? Arghh, inconsistencies!!!!
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515533)
Posted by guarayakha on September 3rd, 2013 @ 11:29am CDT
Totally needs Mark Hamill to voice him this time. Or Troy Baker, if Mark couldn't do it anymore.
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Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515536)
Posted by jeprime1983 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 11:48am CDT
Lol. Love the Joker reference!
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515545)
Posted by DEMEXICONZ on September 3rd, 2013 @ 12:31pm CDT
:KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :-?...looks diffrent than hes head on dotm... has an emo stare thing going :lol:
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515550)
Posted by devlingrey on September 3rd, 2013 @ 12:46pm CDT
Michael Bay's new theme song:

"You see I'm wise enough to know when a plot needs thinning, and I've got just the one
Something that's been done and over done

G1 Movie
Megatron's head in a box

Marvel Comics
Megatron's head in a box

IDW
Megatron's head in box

Dark of the Moon
Megatron's head in box

Every single movie, Megatron's head in box, yeah yeah yeah yeeeaaaaah
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515551)
Posted by dragons on September 3rd, 2013 @ 12:47pm CDT
Hopefully it's human villain could study it but have him back from dead not good idea I know he had axe in his but didn't it get cut off I can't watch it my bluray play doesn't play 3d crap movies
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515552)
Posted by devlingrey on September 3rd, 2013 @ 12:47pm CDT
devlingrey wrote:Michael Bay's new theme song:

"You see I'm wise enough to know when a plot needs thinning, and I've got just the one
Something that's been done and over done

G1 Movie
Megatron's head in a box

Marvel Comics
Megatron's head in a box

IDW
Megatron's head in box

Dark of the Moon
Megatron's head in box

Every single movie, Megatron's head in box, yeah yeah yeah yeeeaaaaah


Okay, so this was funnier in my head. Fail on my part.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515553)
Posted by njb902 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 12:48pm CDT
It's not like this doesn't happen in all of the other transformers mediums. I for one hope he gets reformatted into Galveston.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515554)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2013 @ 12:50pm CDT
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The appearance of a severed head =/= guaranteed resurrection.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515558)
Posted by jeprime1983 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 1:09pm CDT
If Galvatron comes into play then Unicron should as well. But Bay hasn't been very faithfulto the G1 history. Ie. The Ark being sentinel's ship and not optimus's.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515559)
Posted by jeprime1983 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 1:11pm CDT
And I know that looks wrong and I definitely know the Ark was Optimus's ship.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515563)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2013 @ 1:30pm CDT
jeprime1983 wrote:If Galvatron comes into play then Unicron should as well. But Bay hasn't been very faithfulto the G1 history. Ie. The Ark being sentinel's ship and not optimus's.
Why should it be faithful to G1 history? The movies are not G1, and no TF cartoons from 2002 to today have been "faithful to G1 history" either. Why should the movies be when none of the cartoons have been?

jeprime1983 wrote:And I know that looks wrong and I definitely know the Ark was Optimus's ship.
There were two Arks in the movie fiction.

Optimus's:
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And Sentinel's:
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Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515567)
Posted by jeprime1983 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 1:51pm CDT
I am well aware that the movies aren't faithful to G1. Which is why many people do not care for Bay's approach to the franchise. And I believei stated that in my post. But u are correct. Why try to jump on the G1 train now right?
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515569)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2013 @ 1:54pm CDT
jeprime1983 wrote:Which is why many people do not care for Bay's approach to the franchise.
Yet, lots of other non-Movie fiction don't abide by G1 either, and several of those fictions are still liked.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515573)
Posted by njb902 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 2:25pm CDT
Why does everything have to be a rehash of g1?
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515574)
Posted by mayanempire on September 3rd, 2013 @ 2:31pm CDT
Headmaster Megatron? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515577)
Posted by jeprime1983 on September 3rd, 2013 @ 2:42pm CDT
Well I apologize if I offended anyone with my opinion. But I still have the right to speak my opinion however foolish some of u may think it to be. Now with that said I agree withwhat you are saying. Many fictions are well liked that aren't G1. I was just stating Baynever held true to G1. No more no less.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515578)
Posted by Deathscythetransform on September 3rd, 2013 @ 2:44pm CDT
You gotta be F-ing kidding me!!! :BOOM: :BOOM: :BOOM: :BOOM:

Megatron can't return, he's dead!! his head was aliced in two and ripped off his G-damn body!!! :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD:


Jazz only got ripped in two and he never came back from it! Megs got his chest melted by the all spark, then his head sliced in two and ripped from his body...

so if they bring back Megatron, they might as well bring back Que, Soundwave, the fallen, sideways and demolishor for consistencies' sake!

I am the only one who thinks DOTM should have been the LAST! movie ???

I am very skeptical with this 4th entry and quite frankly, I don't set my expectations to high

after all, its michael bay we're talking about... :michaelbay:
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515586)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on September 3rd, 2013 @ 3:12pm CDT
ive said it once & ill say it again, looks like just more of the same. Heres an idea bay if you want a character for the next movie dont kill them off. And if bots can come back so easy then why was jazz never revived? Why do i have the feeling this movie is going to have zombies, time travel & zombies how more unoriginal can you get? It would explain the dinobots, they go back in time to get some prehistoric bots to fight the modern day zombie menace. Throw in a vampire and we have it all. Hopefully megatron is just in a flash back but i doubt it cause bay cant form an original idea to save his life. Only other acceptable reason for megs to be around is to be turned into galvatron
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515587)
Posted by AutobotNance on September 3rd, 2013 @ 3:13pm CDT
Ok I don't mind Megatron returning but seriously. How many times are we gonna keep killing him off? If Megs is gonna stay dead then let him stay dead. Or if he is coming back at least revive as another character like oh I don't know, Galvatron?
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515591)
Posted by ILL-Star on September 3rd, 2013 @ 3:25pm CDT
Deathscythetransform wrote:Megatron can't return, he's dead!! his head was aliced in two and ripped off his G-damn body!!!

Why is anyone surprised. He's Megatron. He always returns. Unless of course a series ends with his death.
Deathscythetransform wrote:I am the only one who thinks DOTM should have been the LAST! movie ???

I am very skeptical with this 4th entry and quite frankly, I don't set my expectations to high

after all, its michael bay we're talking about...

Of course not. I very much enjoy the first three yet I'm quite skeptical of how this fourth one will turn out. When Bay said he would not do a fourth and then did, like many I was aggravated. I think the majority would have preferred an entirely new, Bay free movie. But at least we have potentially good new characters to add to the existing movie toy line. :D
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515594)
Posted by MarkNL on September 3rd, 2013 @ 3:38pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Image

The appearance of a severed head =/= guaranteed resurrection.

I agree. Maybe this head of Megatron is used for a scene where the humans and Autobots get rid of Meg's body.
Déjavù. We've seen that before too. :-B
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515600)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 3rd, 2013 @ 3:53pm CDT
This news made my day! Awesome! :) :CON:
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515628)
Posted by Rex Prime on September 3rd, 2013 @ 6:14pm CDT
You all act as if Megatron's return will be something very minor in the movie (like in Revenge of the Fallen). He will just come back from the dead, Right? But, Hasrbo made Megatron's Return a Trademark. Who Knows? Maybe Megatron's return would be a HUGE plot piece, maybe the whole first half of the movie is about returning megatron to life and the autobots trying to stop whoever is trying to get megatron back to life?
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515630)
Posted by AutobotNance on September 3rd, 2013 @ 6:21pm CDT
Rex Prime wrote:You all act as if Megatron's return will be something very minor in the movie (like in Revenge of the Fallen). He will just come back from the dead, Right? But, Hasrbo made Megatron's Return a Trademark. Who Knows? Maybe Megatron's return would be a HUGE plot piece, maybe the whole first half of the movie is about returning megatron to life and the autobots trying to stop whoever is trying to get megatron back to life?

Well, I'm sorry, I like Megatron but having coming back just to kill him off agin is really getting old and pointless. A new Decepticon leader would be nice. Or if he's back, just make him Galvatron if the rumors are true. It just dosent surprise me.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515645)
Posted by Jack Hallows on September 3rd, 2013 @ 7:49pm CDT
if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too. and if that's the case, i hope unicron show's up as well. i just hope that if he does show up, he's not some weird cloud thing like galactus was in f4 pt 2 or parallax was in green lantern.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515647)
Posted by Autobot Megatron on September 3rd, 2013 @ 8:05pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Image

The appearance of a severed head =/= guaranteed resurrection.


That was my first thought, but the whole "Megatron Returns" trademark bit is what makes that unlikely. I actually wouldn't mind if humans used Megatron's memories and such to make a Transformer, who takes command of the 'Cons. (And maybe not even name him Galvatron!)
I know that wouldn't be popular, but let's face it: Bay will never make a G1 rehash, and if he can't do that, let's go with something completely new!
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515648)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2013 @ 8:05pm CDT
Jack Hallows wrote:if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too.
Unless it's more like this Cyclonus:

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;)
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515651)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 3rd, 2013 @ 8:10pm CDT
Autobot Megatron wrote:That was my first thought, but the whole "Megatron Returns" trademark bit is what makes that unlikely.
That Trademark (and the other two) was filed under:

Interactive entertainment software, namely, computer game software, computer game programs, computer game cartridges, computer game discs; interactive multimedia computer game programs; downloadable game software for use in connection with computers, communication devices and mobile telephones; pre-recorded laser and video disc featuring an animated cartoon series

Toy action figures, toy vehicles and toy robots convertible into other visual toy forms

And

Entertainment services, namely an on-going animated television series for children

They're missing a mention of something like "film", "motion picture", "movie", etc. like what "Age of Extinction" had.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515664)
Posted by T-Macksimus on September 3rd, 2013 @ 9:13pm CDT
ILL-Star wrote:
Deathscythetransform wrote:Megatron can't return, he's dead!! his head was aliced in two and ripped off his G-damn body!!!

Why is anyone surprised. He's Megatron. He always returns. Unless of course a series ends with his death.
Deathscythetransform wrote:I am the only one who thinks DOTM should have been the LAST! movie ???

I am very skeptical with this 4th entry and quite frankly, I don't set my expectations to high

after all, its michael bay we're talking about...

Of course not. I very much enjoy the first three yet I'm quite skeptical of how this fourth one will turn out. When Bay said he would not do a fourth and then did, like many I was aggravated. I think the majority would have preferred an entirely new, Bay free movie. But at least we have potentially good new characters to add to the existing movie toy line. :D



I've been practically screaming it for MONTHS now that they should have stopped with 3 films. Now, just when I'm finally starting to warm up to the 4th film and thinking "Hey, maybe this isn't going to suck after all" and in fact I was actually really getting into the whole idea, they go and pull one of the top 5 stupidest moves that will guarantee that this movie will turn into the steaming pile of dog sh** that so many people already think it's going to be! I don't think I've ever had my opinion make such a hard and fast 180 degree turn on anything TF related EVER but this... FU**!! Why not just throw Unicron into the mix (don't even get me started on THAT subject) and resurrect the Twins while they're at it?? Hell, bring back Megan Fox and the little leg-humper too just for sh**s and giggles. Did I cover all of the acts of blatant stupidity or are we still missing some?

And if you can't figure out WHY any of the aforementioned points are blatantly stupid, please don't bother asking me. I'm pissed off and I refuse to lower myself to that level. It should be so obvious a 3rd grader could explain it to you. :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515705)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on September 4th, 2013 @ 12:59am CDT
You guys are getting riled up over nothing. It's his head in a box, that doesn't mean he's coming back. There could just be a scene where they're disposing his body or something like that.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515789)
Posted by Flashwave on September 4th, 2013 @ 11:23am CDT
Okay, so explain something to me then, when they did the other films, were the other robots not done with foam heads on sticks and an off-scale prop for Bumblebee? This head looks too detailed to me to be CGI'D over, so that right away says "prop", unless someone remembers seeing a full 3D Megatron head used for filming. Doesn't rule out what they do with said prop, but remember that Frenzy was stuffed and mounted in Simmons' freezer, why not Megs.

(Or is that what Sabrblade's link is supposed to be?)
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515794)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 4th, 2013 @ 11:37am CDT
All I was saying is that, just because we see a severed head of an existing character doesn't mean that said character will be guaranteed a resurrection. In Frenzy's case, we saw his head in ROTF, but he still stayed dead in that movie. The appearance of Megatron's head does not automatically mean he's coming back to life.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515795)
Posted by Flakmaster on September 4th, 2013 @ 11:42am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too.
Unless it's more like this Cyclonus:

Image

;)


Somebody just copy/paste a robo-dick onto that forward-jutting crotch, replace his face with that of a robotic insect, and then we'll have a fairly accurate depiction of how Bay would portray him.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515797)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 4th, 2013 @ 11:54am CDT
Flakmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too.
Unless it's more like this Cyclonus:

Image

;)


Somebody just copy/paste a robo-dick onto that forward-jutting crotch, replace his face with that of a robotic insect, and then we'll have a fairly accurate depiction of how Bay would portray him.
Actually, you're not to far off from this:

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Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515815)
Posted by Deathscythetransform on September 4th, 2013 @ 1:56pm CDT
Rex Prime wrote:You all act as if Megatron's return will be something very minor in the movie (like in Revenge of the Fallen). He will just come back from the dead, Right? But, Hasrbo made Megatron's Return a Trademark. Who Knows? Maybe Megatron's return would be a HUGE plot piece, maybe the whole first half of the movie is about returning megatron to life and the autobots trying to stop whoever is trying to get megatron back to life?




and after that,in the 2nd half, they will try killing him?

The whole return of megatron thing is a real bad move. It may be just a prop, as it was said, but knowing we are talking about michael bay, it might be just another resurection in the process. We can't trust whatever he says cos he said megs wouldnt come back in rotf, yet he came back...

dotm's ending was supposed to bring a closing to the trilogy...

if megs can come back from being beheaded, then Sentinel could come back too while you're at it...

and bring back also starscream as Thundercracker, Dirge or Skywarp?

nah

I will definitively go see the movie out of curiosity, but I won't have any expectations. like that, I won't be pissed or dissapointed
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1515999)
Posted by 5150 Cruiser on September 5th, 2013 @ 12:46pm CDT
Hmm.. Or maybe there simpley using a Megatron head instead of whatever charcter to keep it under wraps. Or its just there to pisss everyone off. :grin:
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1516069)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on September 5th, 2013 @ 7:48pm CDT
5150 Cruiser wrote:Hmm.. Or maybe there simpley using a Megatron head instead of whatever charcter to keep it under wraps. Or its just there to pisss everyone off. :grin:

Could be misdirection too.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1516076)
Posted by Jack Hallows on September 5th, 2013 @ 8:56pm CDT
i dunno. the way i see it, megatron can't not be in the movie in some form or other. he was one of humanity's biggest constant threats. the humans would want to know exactly what's become of him. for good or evil intentions.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1516119)
Posted by njb902 on September 6th, 2013 @ 3:21am CDT
Jack Hallows wrote:i dunno. the way i see it, megatron can't not be in the movie in some form or other. he was one of humanity's biggest constant threats. the humans would want to know exactly what's become of him. for good or evil intentions.


Just think of all of the war memorabilia we have in museums.
Re: Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4 (1516327)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 6th, 2013 @ 9:26pm CDT
Maybe Kelsey Grammer's character is attempting to rebuild Megatron? Just a thought.
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