Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed

Transformers News: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed

Tuesday, December 21st, 2010 1:09AM CST

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It's happened with Tomahawk, Terradive, Darkmount to Skullgrin, Lockdown to Axor, Bumblebee to Cliffjumper, and Thunderwing to Black Shadow (Cross your fingers), so why stop now? Instructions for both upcoming Generations figures, Kup and Scourge, have landed on Hasbro.com. Seibertron.com member El Duque notifies us that their heads certainly do not look like either Kup or Scourge, so we can only assume that these instructions tell a tale of a future remold. Check them out below!

Scourge
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Kup
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In the future, if your Kup and Scourge do not come with instructions, be sure to bookmark the links too!

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Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159776)
Posted by ubertenorman on December 21st, 2010 @ 1:11am CST
I hate to say it, but for some reason the not-Kup head reminds me of Hot Shot.

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Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159780)
Posted by The Dude on December 21st, 2010 @ 1:18am CST
Fools!

It's Orion Pax!

As for not-Scourge, I don't know. Leozack, I guess. Go Leozack.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159781)
Posted by emeraldbeacon on December 21st, 2010 @ 1:29am CST
Blurrz wrote:Kup


Almost reminds me of Armada Smokescreen/Hoist. I could also see Gears in that head... and that Orion Pax (or Optronix?) guess could be interesting, as well.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159782)
Posted by omega666 on December 21st, 2010 @ 1:34am CST
I'm thinking Orion Pax.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159783)
Posted by Skice on December 21st, 2010 @ 1:39am CST
"Kup" could be the Action Master Kick-off.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159784)
Posted by Samsonator on December 21st, 2010 @ 1:43am CST
I'll thrown my hat in with the Senator Ratbat crowd... but the Kup remold's too vague to make an informed opinion on, it really looks like it could be just about anyone (well anyone with a round-ish head)
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159786)
Posted by Oilspill on December 21st, 2010 @ 1:47am CST
I don't get a massive Gears or Orion Pax vibe from the Kup remould. Any other ideas? Is there a Micromaster pickup truck somewhere?
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159791)
Posted by Screamfleet on December 21st, 2010 @ 2:02am CST
Whatever they are, they'll have to be colors I really like for me to get them, I think one of each of those molds will do it for me.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159792)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 21st, 2010 @ 2:05am CST
I hope that's Orion Pax.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159796)
Posted by Galvatrondestroyer on December 21st, 2010 @ 2:15am CST
kinda weird that Scourge would get a repaint/remold considering most people will get more than 1 Scourge so they can have sweeps as well

ill agree with everyone else that Kups might very well be Orion Pax considering the original Kup was repainted as an exclusive Orion...wait for it people we'll get wheelie repainted into Dion lol
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159805)
Posted by Berserker Prime on December 21st, 2010 @ 2:38am CST
DavidT wrote:See what I mean!

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ratbat_(G1)


Ya, ratbat all the way. I got a gears feeling from the kup one too. Looks like my new rule of no repaints is ganna be broken real quick.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159808)
Posted by Flux Convoy on December 21st, 2010 @ 2:43am CST
I can get behind that for Orion Pax. Scourge does resemble Leozack which is a shame because the Botcon figure looks effing amazing in those colors. Skyquake too. I wouldn't mind Ratbat or someone else. LioKaiser maybe?
:BOT:
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159810)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 21st, 2010 @ 2:48am CST
Fender Bender wrote:So....Botcon releases that have become redundant due to a general release figure coming out so far:
2005 Ironhide
2005 Ratchet
2007 Springer
2007 Thrust
2007 Dirge
2007 Huffer
2009 Kup
2009 Scourge
2009 Banzaitron
2009 Leozack


Some of these figues shouldn't be on a Classics "redundancy" list. PCC Huffer doesn't replace BotCon Huffer for the "Classics" shelf. Power Core Combiners is its own continutiy, which now seems to actually be part of the extended live action movie continutiy. Similarly, Banzaitron is technically a movie figure.

BotCon Ironhide and Ratchet were released two years before "Classics" even existed, are totally outclassed by their Universe 2.0 incarnations, especially in robot mode.

BotCon Kup is really a much younger, alternate history version of Kup, whereas the Generations figure is obviously the choice for the character we all know and love from G1 in terms of alt mode and his grizzled old-man face.

With Springer, we get two distinct figures representing one each of his triple changer alt modes from G1.

BotCon Scourge was great for a time, but such an important character really does deserve his own "Classics" mold instead of a repaint and head swap of another character from another continuity's toyline.

BotCon Thrust and Dirge are still unique from their Generations Counterparts. Thrust has different tooling between the two versions, and BotCon Dirge is just a Ramjet repaint, while Generages Dirge has all new wing moldings.

So, that really leaves Leozack, but all signs are pointing towards the Generations Scourge repaint/remold being "Senator" Ratbat instead.

I don't think Hasbro is really stepping on FunPub's toes at all with its recent releases.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159811)
Posted by noodles2go on December 21st, 2010 @ 2:50am CST
My guess for the Kup repaint will be Brawn. My science is a bit finicky behind it, but that's my guess and I'm sticking to it! :BOT:
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159833)
Posted by Poyguimogul on December 21st, 2010 @ 4:24am CST
The head on the first one looks alot like "Megatron:Origin" Ratbat or G1 Leozack.

Kup... You got me...Huffer?..Crosshairs?..
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159836)
Posted by Dai_Ceefax on December 21st, 2010 @ 4:39am CST
Whilst I agree with many of Wolfman Jake's comments, I'd say that, continuity be damned, PCC Huffer is a great classics Huffer and quite G1 toy-accurate (visor, chest, silver arms etc.). As far as Botcon Ironhide & Ratchet are concerned, they may be less accurate to the G1 cartoon models but the Tow-line mould makes a fantastic (and, undoubtedly, intentional) update to the original Ironhide/Ratchet toy.

On topic:

Leozack = hope not, not the right mould, Botcon version is amazing and, well, who wants a blue re-use of a blue mould?
Gears = meh, though a Swerve could be cool (better colours IMO), the head is more Gears-like though.

Senator Ratbat = would be EPIC
Orion Pax = with Black Shadow hopefully on the way, this could actually happen - who'd have thought, eh?
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159838)
Posted by Flux Convoy on December 21st, 2010 @ 4:44am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Fender Bender wrote:So....Botcon releases that have become redundant due to a general release figure coming out so far:
2005 Ironhide
2005 Ratchet
2007 Springer
2007 Thrust
2007 Dirge
2007 Huffer
2009 Kup
2009 Scourge
2009 Banzaitron
2009 Leozack


Some of these figues shouldn't be on a Classics "redundancy" list. PCC Huffer doesn't replace BotCon Huffer for the "Classics" shelf. Power Core Combiners is its own continutiy, which now seems to actually be part of the extended live action movie continutiy. Similarly, Banzaitron is technically a movie figure.

BotCon Ironhide and Ratchet were released two years before "Classics" even existed, are totally outclassed by their Universe 2.0 incarnations, especially in robot mode.

BotCon Kup is really a much younger, alternate history version of Kup, whereas the Generations figure is obviously the choice for the character we all know and love from G1 in terms of alt mode and his grizzled old-man face.

With Springer, we get two distinct figures representing one each of his triple changer alt modes from G1.

BotCon Scourge was great for a time, but such an important character really does deserve his own "Classics" mold instead of a repaint and head swap of another character from another continuity's toyline.

BotCon Thrust and Dirge are still unique from their Generations Counterparts. Thrust has different tooling between the two versions, and BotCon Dirge is just a Ramjet repaint, while Generages Dirge has all new wing moldings.

So, that really leaves Leozack, but all signs are pointing towards the Generations Scourge repaint/remold being "Senator" Ratbat instead.

I don't think Hasbro is really stepping on FunPub's toes at all with its recent releases.

For the most part I agree.
*Ironhide and Ratchet replace a worse mold and mediocre Botcon head molds. Upgrade IMO.
*Springer is redundant only because of Fansproject to me. The Hasbro offerings were just nothing interesting for my money.
*Thrust and Dirge, yeah. I'll concede here. The new ones are pretty near perfect though and I gladly replaced my Botcon versions with them.
*Huffer is still the most "Classic" version we've gotten. That's despite my fondness for the PCC 2 packs.
*Kup, he was a stand-in for me at best until we got something nicer. We are now and I'm still unsure whether or not to box him away since he fits a subsect of my "Classic" display.
*Scourge, Kinda the same deal as Kup for me. Except I definately want to keep them out. Maybe I can just group the historical segment of that years set together and display it all.
*Banzaitron, IMO, Botcon version wins. No contest. I love the colors on the ROTF mold but he fits nowhere in a "Classic" display. Since I already own Bludgeon and my movie figures are few, he'd be very redundant.
*Leozack, I love the Energon Starscream mold in the colors used for both figures. Skyquake SHOULD be a God damn disaster but it works. I'm really hoping we get something a little more fresh with that one. The Generations Scourge mold looks very interesting.
:BOT:
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159857)
Posted by Stockade on December 21st, 2010 @ 5:31am CST
vladimir-pocket wrote:-skims through megaton origin- im thinking ratbat instead of leozack... not sure about kup though



Ratbat would be an awesome choice, but im game for either.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159866)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 21st, 2010 @ 5:56am CST
I really like Botcon Scourge. Even when I get the new Generations Scourge Botcon Scourge may still be Scourge and the Generations one a Sweep. Maybe. Of course my space is damned limited.

The exclucive toys aren't made worthless just because there's a more regular release put out.

As for the teo new heads ... Ratbat does nothing for me. It's a tape or bust for the tape guys in my book. Having got the G1 reissues, I have a proper Ratbat. The other rings no bells.
Re: Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed (1159873)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 21st, 2010 @ 6:11am CST
Hmmm.. To me it just looks like whomever illustrated the images was lazy and did not want to add detail.
LOL

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