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Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release
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Posted by: tigertracks 24
Credit(s): Jim Sorenson IDW
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Monday, June 30th, 2008 7:25PM CDT

What's 'The Ark II' you might ask? Well it is a compilation of japanese generation 1 cartoon character designs from Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Zone, and the un-released cartoon Battlestars.

"TRANSFORMERS: The Ark, Volume 2 picks up where the first volume left off, making available for the first time hundreds of rare images chronicling the evolution of TRANSFORMERS in Japan. This volume covers all of the classic Japanese series material: HEADMASTERS, MASTERFORCE, VICTORY, ZONE, BATTLESTARS, and OPERATION COMBINATION. TRANSFORMERS, humans, aliens, ships and weapon models decorate this 208-page volume. If you love animation designs or ever wanted to know more about the TRANSFORMERS Anime, this book is for you."

The first 'Transformers: The Ark Compendium' was a large book available at comic book stores that compiled character show designs for generation 1 cartoon characters.


Now, Jim Sorenson shares on the IDW Forum five of his sample pages. This book is scheduled to be released on July 9th.

Scorponok

Minerva

Star Saber

Destron Generals

Battlestars Megatron

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Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737610)
Posted by i_amtrunks on June 30th, 2008 @ 7:27pm CDT

According to Denton's Blog, this should be out next week, on the 9th of July.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737613)
Posted by Nemesis_Apoc on June 30th, 2008 @ 7:34pm CDT

Primus, I can't wait for this to come out.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737614)
Posted by tigertracks 24 on June 30th, 2008 @ 7:40pm CDT

[quote="i_amtrunks":1547af83]According to Denton's Blog, this should be out next week, on the 9th of July.[/quote:1547af83]


I've been doing some editing since the first time. I found that too! Thanks!

[quote="Nemesis_Apoc":1547af83]Primus, I can't wait for this to come out.[/quote:1547af83]

Me too!!! Death Cobra!!!!


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737626)
Posted by jms98 on June 30th, 2008 @ 8:15pm CDT

[quote="tigertracks 24":ovbati1v]

[quote="Nemesis_Apoc":ovbati1v]Primus, I can't wait for this to come out.[/quote:ovbati1v]

Me too!!! Death Cobra!!!![/quote:ovbati1v]

Oh, btw, Death Cobra will be getting a full page of this book. Robot, helicopter, headshot. I'm a big fan of the incidental characters and there are quite a few in this book.

JimS


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737628)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 30th, 2008 @ 8:18pm CDT

Will these be in color in the final version, or will they still be in black and white.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737635)
Posted by tigertracks 24 on June 30th, 2008 @ 8:22pm CDT

[quote="Sabrblade":38i5mdo7]Will these be in color in the final version, or will they still be in black and white.[/quote:38i5mdo7]

It's black and white, at least the first one was, the sample pages are, so...

[quote="jms98":38i5mdo7]

Oh, btw, Death Cobra will be getting a full page of this book. Robot, helicopter, headshot. I'm a big fan of the incidental characters and there are quite a few in this book.

JimS[/quote:38i5mdo7]

Thanks for all this work Mr. Sorenson. I know many of us here will really enjoy it! Glad to see you posting here too now! Come back often!


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737643)
Posted by soundwave13c on June 30th, 2008 @ 8:29pm CDT

Megatron looks awsome :grin:


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737644)
Posted by 1337W422102 on June 30th, 2008 @ 8:31pm CDT

I'd like Minerva to be my Headmaster if you know what I mean.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737656)
Posted by First-Aid on June 30th, 2008 @ 8:45pm CDT

[quote="1337W422102":201uz623]I'd like Minerva to be my Headmaster if you know what I mean.[/quote:201uz623]

I swear, that's the tenth time a joke like that has been on these forums in the last month...you buncha pervs... :twisted: :mrgreen:


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737662)
Posted by 1337W422102 on June 30th, 2008 @ 8:51pm CDT

[quote="First-Aid":3vddmfyg][quote="1337W422102":3vddmfyg]I'd like Minerva to be my Headmaster if you know what I mean.[/quote:3vddmfyg]

I swear, that's the tenth time a joke like that has been on these forums in the last month...you buncha pervs... :twisted: :mrgreen:
[/quote:3vddmfyg]

10? Hmm, you must have missed some of my other posts, then. :-B

Just yankin' ya. I'm really looking forward to this. I picked up the first one and had a blast flipping through it.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737692)
Posted by jms98 on June 30th, 2008 @ 10:01pm CDT

[quote="tigertracks 24":jsljv3e7][quote="Sabrblade":jsljv3e7]Will these be in color in the final version, or will they still be in black and white.[/quote:jsljv3e7]

It's black and white, at least the first one was, the sample pages are, so...

Thanks for all this work Mr. Sorenson. I know many of us here will really enjoy it! Glad to see you posting here too now! Come back often![/quote:jsljv3e7]

Glad to be here. And yes, it'll be in black and white, because character models are in black and white. At least, back in the 80s they were. Since the images had to be sent from the art director's office to the animators, it was much easier to courier a couple of sheets of color models and then fax over the more voluminous character models. These days, since it's all digital, most character models exist in color. Were I to tackle something like, say TF Animated, I'd be more inclined to do it in color.

Best,
Jim


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737701)
Posted by olokin on June 30th, 2008 @ 10:13pm CDT

Is this a hardcover?


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737734)
Posted by Seibertron on June 30th, 2008 @ 11:29pm CDT

You know ... I'm thinking I'd be a pretty damn happy fan if we'd finally get a G1 Arcee figure for the 25th anniversary (perhaps done in a retro G1 style) or maybe even a Super Megatron from Takara finally. What do you guys say?


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737758)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on July 1st, 2008 @ 12:18am CDT

Does that scripting feel patronizing to anyone else?


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737833)
Posted by Devil Gundam on July 1st, 2008 @ 5:46am CDT

Looks like I'll be picking this up, and looking for volume 1 as well.

And I need a bigger bookshelf.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (737836)
Posted by tigertracks 24 on July 1st, 2008 @ 5:54am CDT

[quote="Seibertron":wlm1m9kl]You know ... I'm thinking I'd be a pretty damn happy fan if we'd finally get a G1 Arcee figure for the 25th anniversary (perhaps done in a retro G1 style) or maybe even a Super Megatron from Takara finally. What do you guys say?[/quote:wlm1m9kl]

Yes, and yes!


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (738077)
Posted by jms98 on July 1st, 2008 @ 11:16am CDT

[quote="olokin":1opnbrjy]Is this a hardcover?[/quote:1opnbrjy]

Alas, softcover, but it is oversized, considerably larger than a standard comic book. If you really would like to see a hardcover, perhaps an omnibus collecting volume 1 & volume 2, write to IDW.

[quote="NuclearConvoy":1opnbrjy]Does that scripting feel patronizing to anyone else?[/quote:1opnbrjy]

Do you mean the solicitation copy, or the text accompanying the images? Either way, that was not my intention. For the actual book pages, I wanted to inform and tried to adopt a neutral editorial voice. For the solicitation copy, I felt it appropriate to go a bit more sale-sy. I certainly wasn't trying to talk down to anyone, more to talk up the book.

JimS


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (738219)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on July 1st, 2008 @ 2:25pm CDT

[quote="jms98":8l4ywv7l]

Do you mean the solicitation copy, or the text accompanying the images? Either way, that was not my intention. For the actual book pages, I wanted to inform and tried to adopt a neutral editorial voice. For the solicitation copy, I felt it appropriate to go a bit more sale-sy. I certainly wasn't trying to talk down to anyone, more to talk up the book.[/quote:8l4ywv7l]


The actual text in the book. The tone feels patronizing to me. I [b:8l4ywv7l]know[/b:8l4ywv7l] all that information already and the book comes off, to me, like someone explaining the Japanese series and characters to other fans in the simplest way possible because, otherwise, they just wouldn't get it. It really feels kinda elitist and patronizing in its lack of depth.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (738503)
Posted by jms98 on July 1st, 2008 @ 7:45pm CDT

[quote="NuclearConvoy":3flz43si][quote="jms98":3flz43si]

Do you mean the solicitation copy, or the text accompanying the images? Either way, that was not my intention. For the actual book pages, I wanted to inform and tried to adopt a neutral editorial voice. For the solicitation copy, I felt it appropriate to go a bit more sale-sy. I certainly wasn't trying to talk down to anyone, more to talk up the book.[/quote:3flz43si]


The actual text in the book. The tone feels patronizing to me. I [b:3flz43si]know[/b:3flz43si] all that information already and the book comes off, to me, like someone explaining the Japanese series and characters to other fans in the simplest way possible because, otherwise, they just wouldn't get it. It really feels kinda elitist and patronizing in its lack of depth.[/quote:3flz43si]

Seriously? I didn't get that at all. As I say above, I adopted a neutral editorial voice. You may know all about Magami Ban and what the individual titles of the Nine Great Demon Generals and Minerva's ethnicity, but I didn't want to assume that everyone would. Certainly, I didn't know all of this before I started doing research for the book.

Remember, this is primarily an art/reference book, not a detailed guide to Japanese continuity. On most pages I had room for about two sentences, and I had to assume that the reader was unfamiliar with the character. Some very basic biographical information and perhaps some trivia was all I had room for. If the info contained is old news to you, at least a good portion of the artwork is new, and the rest should be of higher quality than has been previously published.

I appreciate the feedback, but I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree on this.

Cheers,
Jim


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (738737)
Posted by synapse on July 2nd, 2008 @ 3:45am CDT

I already know all that information too as the big fan of japanese TFs I am (and the fact that those TV series were dubbed and aired here in Spain helps a lot), and I didn't get that feeling either.

(and btw, most americans have never properly learned about these stories and characters so I believe that little text will be highly appreciated)

Patronizing? Elitist? Man... seriously... xD


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (738810)
Posted by Jaw Crusher on July 2nd, 2008 @ 6:35am CDT

I know admittedly very little about the Japanese TF series, so I don't think there's anything wrong with the tone of the text at all. It's informative, so it's actually rather helpful for those of us not entirely in the know.

You can't just assume that the entire readership that this book would be exposed to is going to know this stuff. The text helps.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (739294)
Posted by i_amtrunks on July 2nd, 2008 @ 4:59pm CDT

I know bits and pieces of info about the later 3 (technically 4, with Zone) series, so the additional comments are appreciated.

Cant wait for this book, the first one was fantastic, I expect this book to be just as great.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (739424)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on July 2nd, 2008 @ 7:34pm CDT

I never did get the first one.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (739781)
Posted by Jaw Crusher on July 3rd, 2008 @ 6:30am CDT

The first one's O.K., although a bit incomplete. Does have some nice turnarounds and alternate/unused models, though.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (739789)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on July 3rd, 2008 @ 6:56am CDT

[quote="Jaw Crusher":x2cclgji]The first one's O.K., although a bit incomplete. Does have some nice turnarounds and alternate/unused models, though.[/quote:x2cclgji]

Alternate/Unused models?


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (739805)
Posted by synapse on July 3rd, 2008 @ 7:48am CDT

Models which were created for either the show or the comic but were finally not used (i.e. jumpstarters or battlechargers in the cartoon), or got redesigned to make them more/less toy accurate. I absolutely loved the first volume and am SO looking forward to the second!!


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (739817)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on July 3rd, 2008 @ 8:08am CDT

Is the first volume still readily available?


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (740243)
Posted by synapse on July 3rd, 2008 @ 4:32pm CDT

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Comp ... 437&sr=8-2


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (741031)
Posted by Sustain on July 4th, 2008 @ 1:39pm CDT

Ohh something else to spend money on woot.


Re: Sample Art For The New IDW 'Transformers: The Ark II Compendium'-July 9th Release (744097)
Posted by astrobard on July 8th, 2008 @ 11:34pm CDT

they shud continue TF Zone.. remake them!