SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version

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Sunday, July 14th, 2013 1:08PM CDT

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Due to several requests, I have updated SDCC 2013 Metroplex's gallery with new pictures comparing the size of the SDCC box with the retail Generations Metroplex box. I also added a picture at the end of each SDCC gallery showing all of this year's SDCC Transformers exclusives together (excluding the G.I. JOE and the Transformers set which I will pick up next week at SDCC). Here are the new pictures to demonstrate just how big the SDCC version's box is, which measures approximately 27" x 22" x 8" versus the retail box which measures approximately 24" x 14" x 6" (give or take a 1/4 of an inch here and there).

FYI ... the Shockwave's Laboratory set featuring Voyager Class Shockwave and Commander Class Predaking will be posted later today.

SDCC Metroplex box comparison to retail version

SDCC Metroplex box comparison to retail version

SDCC Metroplex box comparison to retail version

SDCC Metroplex box comparison to retail version

SDCC Metroplex box comparison to retail version

SDCC Metroplex box comparison to retail version
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Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503130)
Posted by Trikeboy on July 14th, 2013 @ 1:32pm CDT
Hey, Seibertron, if you can only get one version of this toy, which would you recommend?
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503131)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 1:36pm CDT
One last request fulfilled ... this time I pulled out my G1 Decoys to provide comparisons of them to the new "Decoy" like mini-figures that are included with SDCC 2013 Metroplex. Check out the following pictures of Megatron, Starscream, Orion Pax, Bumblebee, Hoist, and Trailcutter alongside their G1 Decoy counterparts.













Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503134)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 14th, 2013 @ 1:43pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Check out the following pictures of Megatron, Starscream, Orion Pax, Bumblebee, Hoist, and Trailcutter alongside their G1 Decoy counterparts.


I think that's very probably supposed to be Thundercracker instead of Starscream since the rest of the mini-figures are all based on the Thrilling 30 Wave 1 and 2 Deluxes, which Thundercracker (but not Starscream) was a part of. ;)
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503137)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 1:45pm CDT
Trikeboy wrote:Hey, Seibertron, if you can only get one version of this toy, which would you recommend?


I have to go with the retail version of these two. The chrome is nice, and I'm very happy to have it in my collection, but for a regular budget-minded collector I don't think it's worth at least an extra 50 bucks for chromed upper legs and a face and an extra big red gun with a missile, that I feel were really tacked on (I can't figure out where the extra weapon is supposed to attach in vehicle and city modes).

I also had a lot of problems with the stickers on the SDCC version, which kind of soured my experience with him a little bit. The stickers would "cling" to the toy as soon as you get them close, I'm assuming because of their chrome foil nature. I don't recall having that much difficulty with the retail version's regular stickers. Because the stickers kept clinging, I feel like I had a much more difficult time to apply the stickers. It took me about 1 hour 40 minutes to 2 hours to put all of the stickers on. I don't recall it taking that long on the regular retail version. That one might have taken me an hour or so, but the SDCC version definitely took longer because of all the problems I kept having with the stickers not lining up properly. I even managed to damage two of the stickers.
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503139)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2013 @ 1:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Check out the following pictures of Megatron, Starscream, Orion Pax, Bumblebee, Hoist, and Trailcutter alongside their G1 Decoy counterparts.


I think that's supposed to be Thundercracker instead of Starscream since the rest of the mini-figures are all based on the Thrilling 30 Wave 1 and 2 Deluxes, which Thundercracker (but not Starscream) was a part of. ;)


He already knows, Sabrblade. :) But how would you be able to tell single-colored Seekers apart aside from looking at their number (Starcream is #35, Thundercracker is #34 and Skywarp is #33)? Besides, the design is the same so any Seeker would do for comparisons. ;)
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503140)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 14th, 2013 @ 1:52pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:He already knows, Sabrblade. :)
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503142)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 14th, 2013 @ 1:58pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:(I can't figure out where the extra weapon is supposed to attach in vehicle and city modes).
Hope this can help. Here are some photos from the Tokyo Toy show of how Takara managed to fit both guns on their version:




Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503147)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 2:51pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Check out the following pictures of Megatron, Starscream, Orion Pax, Bumblebee, Hoist, and Trailcutter alongside their G1 Decoy counterparts.


I think that's supposed to be Thundercracker instead of Starscream since the rest of the mini-figures are all based on the Thrilling 30 Wave 1 and 2 Deluxes, which Thundercracker (but not Starscream) was a part of. ;)


He already knows, Sabrblade. :) But how would you be able to tell single-colored Seekers apart aside from looking at their number (Starcream is #35, Thundercracker is #34 and Skywarp is #33)? Besides, the design is the same so any Seeker would do for comparisons. ;)


Thanks for catching that. I had said yesterday that the mini-figure was supposed to theoretically represent Thundercracker, since the other 5 are part of the IDW Generations comic-packed wave. Slipped my mind today while I was pulling out these decoys. I updated the pics to show the "Thundercracker" decoy instead. Just force a refresh and you'll see the new pictures.

In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out how to get the gun to attach like it does in those pictures. I'm not having any luck yet.
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503148)
Posted by KirbyForce1 on July 14th, 2013 @ 2:56pm CDT
That's Thundercracker.

Trust me. I'm a doctor. :D
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503151)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:00pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out how to get the gun to attach like it does in those pictures. I'm not having any luck yet.
A thought just occurred to me. What if Takara's remolded new ports for the guns to attach to? I'd hope not. :-s
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503153)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out how to get the gun to attach like it does in those pictures. I'm not having any luck yet.
A thought just occurred to me. What if Takara's remolded new ports for the guns to attach to? I'd hope not. :-s


Then the retooling should have been carried over into the SDCC one, since it would be considered an "update" of the mold. But Hasbro has messed up in the past...
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503157)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:24pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out how to get the gun to attach like it does in those pictures. I'm not having any luck yet.
A thought just occurred to me. What if Takara's remolded new ports for the guns to attach to? I'd hope not. :-s


Alright, I figured out where the red gun attaches in city mode. One of the gray guns attaches to the red gun. How it attaches is really weak. If you bump into it, it falls off. Works for pics though!

On to battle station vehicle mode ...
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503158)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:31pm CDT
Ok, I finally figured out how its supposed to attach in battle station mode. Again, this is really weak. It attaches weakly via two tabs on the bottom of the gun and attaches over a spot that appears to be made for this. However, as I stated above, it's a really weak connection spot that again appears to be an after thought. In addition, I now have a small paint chip on Metroplex thanks to connecting one of the guns in battle station mode. :BANG_HEAD:

I'll stand by my original statement that Metroplex appears to have been designed with one gun in mind and not two.

The instructions in the SDCC version do not show how to attach the guns in city or battle station vehicle mode. I'll update the gallery in the next 30 minutes.
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503162)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:41pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I now have a small paint chip on Metroplex thanks to connecting one of the guns in battle station mode. :BANG_HEAD:


And a stress marks on the base of the same pegs from where the gray handle of the black gun "attaches", which are the same pegs that attach to the upper leg in battle station mode. Not sure which spot caused the stress marks.
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503164)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:43pm CDT
I wonder if Takara's might have reinforced connection points for the guns. :-?

Are we certain that the SDCC one would have any and all remoldings that the Takara version would theoretically have? I mean, couldn't have Hasbro made the SDCC version before Takara made theirs?
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503165)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:43pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I now have a small paint chip on Metroplex thanks to connecting one of the guns in battle station mode. :BANG_HEAD:


And a stress marks on the base of the same pegs from where the gray handle of the black gun "attaches", which are the same pegs that attach to the upper leg in battle station mode. Not sure which spot caused the stress marks.


Hm ... I was about to say the battle station mode because the other red gun has small stress marks as well but never used those pegs in city mode. I double checked my retail version and it has a small stress mark at the base of one of those pegs as well but those pegs had never been used at all on retail Metroplex. Could have been there before and I just didn't notice.
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503167)
Posted by Seibertron on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:47pm CDT
There are no remoldings. Takara won't have remoldings either. Not this early in the game. The second gun and how those guns attach are just poorly added on. It's a sales gimmick to get people to buy into getting the version that has 2 guns instead of 1. I'm assuming most of you will have Metroplex in robot mode, which is probably what Hasbro and Takara Tomy are assuming as well, so in that case both guns can be used and used properly and will kick ass.
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503169)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:52pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:There are no remoldings. Takara won't have remoldings either. Not this early in the game. The second gun and how those guns attach are just poorly added on. It's a sales gimmick to get people to buy into getting the version that has 2 guns instead of 1. I'm assuming most of you will have Metroplex in robot mode, which is probably what Hasbro and Takara Tomy are assuming as well, so in that case both guns can be used and used properly and will kick ass.


I wonder where the idea of having two guns actually came from. Are people that obsessed with symmetry?
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503170)
Posted by dirk2243 on July 14th, 2013 @ 3:54pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Seibertron wrote:There are no remoldings. Takara won't have remoldings either. Not this early in the game. The second gun and how those guns attach are just poorly added on. It's a sales gimmick to get people to buy into getting the version that has 2 guns instead of 1. I'm assuming most of you will have Metroplex in robot mode, which is probably what Hasbro and Takara Tomy are assuming as well, so in that case both guns can be used and used properly and will kick ass.


I wonder where the idea of having two guns actually came from. Are people that obsessed with symmetry?


which is weird due to the fact that not many of the tfs now get two guns. or maybe its closer to 50/50
Re: SDCC Metroplex box size comparison to retail version (1503172)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 14th, 2013 @ 4:07pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I wonder where the idea of having two guns actually came from. Are people that obsessed with symmetry?
It probably has more to do with the G1 toy having had two guns. With this toy being pretty much a straight up modern day update of that toy, it having two guns like its G1 counterpart was just a logical assumption.

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