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Shuttershock wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:In the same way MTMTE has made me really like Megs, this has made me love Cosmos and Jetfire. cannot wait for this to come out

"Where in the name of science have you been?"

MrBlack wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:even though I'm not big on the IDW comics but i just noticed something really coincidental about something.

the guy talking to Spike mentions that the Cybertronians had created the humans.

now where have i read something similar to that?

oh yea i forgot , a particular web comic that i read where 12 aliens that are based of the western zodiac are playing a game in which the goal is to create a universe in which the humans were created and then shenanigans happen

guess i said a bit too much

lowers head in shame for reading this web comic in which i shall not name

It's not quite so simply as "Cybertronians created humans."

The Enigma of Combination was sent to Earth by Galvatron millions of years prior in order to keep its powers out of the hands of the Cybertronians. It's presence altered proto-humans, allowing them to work together more efficiently. It essentially created modern society.

So, it's not that Cybertronians created humans, but that one particular Cybertronian was inadvertently responsible for creating the conditions that would lead to modern human society.

MrBlack wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:even though I'm not big on the IDW comics but i just noticed something really coincidental about something.

the guy talking to Spike mentions that the Cybertronians had created the humans.

now where have i read something similar to that?

oh yea i forgot , a particular web comic that i read where 12 aliens that are based of the western zodiac are playing a game in which the goal is to create a universe in which the humans were created and then shenanigans happen

guess i said a bit too much

lowers head in shame for reading this web comic in which i shall not name

It's not quite so simply as "Cybertronians created humans."

The Enigma of Combination was sent to Earth by Galvatron millions of years prior in order to keep its powers out of the hands of the Cybertronians. It's presence altered proto-humans, allowing them to work together more efficiently. It essentially created modern society.

So, it's not that Cybertronians created humans, but that one particular Cybertronian was inadvertently responsible for creating the conditions that would lead to modern human society.

"Your civilization was made possible by careless disposal of my garbage."

That's some Douglas Addams scrap right there!

I suppose it's a bit less insulting than "Humans are Unicron's parasites" from the Prime TV show.

MrBlack wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:even though I'm not big on the IDW comics but i just noticed something really coincidental about something.

the guy talking to Spike mentions that the Cybertronians had created the humans.

now where have i read something similar to that?

oh yea i forgot , a particular web comic that i read where 12 aliens that are based of the western zodiac are playing a game in which the goal is to create a universe in which the humans were created and then shenanigans happen

guess i said a bit too much

lowers head in shame for reading this web comic in which i shall not name

It's not quite so simply as "Cybertronians created humans."

The Enigma of Combination was sent to Earth by Galvatron millions of years prior in order to keep its powers out of the hands of the Cybertronians. It's presence altered proto-humans, allowing them to work together more efficiently. It essentially created modern society.

So, it's not that Cybertronians created humans, but that one particular Cybertronian was inadvertently responsible for creating the conditions that would lead to modern human society.

"Your civilization was made possible by careless disposal of my garbage."

That's some Douglas Addams scrap right there!

I suppose it's a bit less insulting than "Humans are Unicron's parasites" from the Prime TV show.

Still, I do like it as it presents a much less human-centric view of the universe. I find that too often in science fiction humanity is treated as inherently special. This kind of writing paints the picture of a vast universe millions of years old where, in an Addamsy way, Earth and humans don't necessarily matter.

I think it cuts both ways. Humans are special in that they were able to weather an invasion by a race of beings that have decimated hundreds of other worlds. At the same time, the traits that allowed humanity to do so seem to have been a result of inadvertent interference by that self-same race of beings.

MrBlack wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:True. I do find it odd that apparently they never bonded with another species culturally in all that time, but whatever. Thundercracker has been a really good care study of the Transformers rediscovering post war life through the actions of a short-lived species.

Cutting off a few quotes to make the thread easier to read.

By the time the Cybertronian race first came online, biological species were already shunning mechanical ones, owing in large part to the 16 million year long war between the Ammonites and the Terradores. Cybertron's own wars and the speciesism exhibited by many on Cybertron didn't help.

After the Knights of Cybertron left, Cybertron collapsed into tribalism under the 13 Primes, which isn't exactly conducive to cultural contact with alien species. After the tribes went to war, Nova Prime came out on top, and we've seen how he feels about "the lesser races." Even after he left, the insular Functionist movement held sway for a long time, and then the entire race fell into a protracted war which involved the destruction and terraforming of multiple biological planets. It seems that there has been little time or inclination on the part of Cybertronians to engage with other species in the 8 million years since their creation.

Transformers #45
John Barber (w) • Andrew Griffith (a & c)
JETFIRE and KUP lead a team to investigate the mysterious ONYX system. Meanwhile, GALVATRON… well, GALVATRON just doesn’t like anybody.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
The events of the past months crash together—with disastrous results!
The stage is set for next month’s Earth-shattering (literally) epic!
Variant Cover by Golby!