Sneak Peek - IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers NYCC Preview
Friday, October 9th, 2015 1:42PM CDT
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You can check out photos of the opening pages below, but be warned that they may contain spoilers for the current The Transformers ongoing series. If that does not concern you, read on.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 9th, 2015 @ 2:00pm CDT
Posted by LE0KING on October 9th, 2015 @ 2:12pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on October 9th, 2015 @ 2:49pm CDT
This is acting like Prowl has been back with the Autobots, being all "things are back to normal" and just goes missing from the Ark.
What the hell?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 9th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:I'm stoked this is finally happening but when the hell is this taking place? Last we saw Prowl attacked Caminus, was captured, escaped, combined with Optimus, fought combines was captured again then escaped thanks to a fight with Optimus and was taken by Ratrap who said he had plans for him.
This is acting like Prowl has been back with the Autobots, being all "things are back to normal" and just goes missing from the Ark.
What the hell?
Maybe after the latest story arc ends, Prowl bridges back to the Earth crew, joins back up with them considering they may be unaware he is wanted, and then all hell breaks loose?
Posted by Randomhero on October 9th, 2015 @ 3:47pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:I'm stoked this is finally happening but when the hell is this taking place? Last we saw Prowl attacked Caminus, was captured, escaped, combined with Optimus, fought combines was captured again then escaped thanks to a fight with Optimus and was taken by Ratrap who said he had plans for him.
This is acting like Prowl has been back with the Autobots, being all "things are back to normal" and just goes missing from the Ark.
What the hell?
Maybe after the latest story arc ends, Prowl bridges back to the Earth crew, joins back up with them considering they may be unaware he is wanted, and then all hell breaks loose?
No they're fully aware. Optimus filled Arcee in on everything and she's mentioned his current actions.
Posted by Randomhero on October 9th, 2015 @ 3:52pm CDT
I'm not feeling Kups look. It's nicks take on Andrews design but it's not doing it for me. Same with Arcee. I'm not a fan of how nick draws female transformers' faces. They just look fugly. Had the same problem on his covers with Nautica and I have it here too.
Posted by oly_chic on October 9th, 2015 @ 7:56pm CDT
If he wanted her dead because it's just that big of a threat, he would've had a Constructicon swing by her place and kill her before going to Cybertron. Or did she in her amazing skill of sending the message straight to Prowl's quarters without otherwise detection also learn how to replicate Spike's methods of staying off the grid? Which didn't exactly last that long once Prowl started looking for him.
Probably should be asking yourselves that, Kup and Arcee, rather than make snap assumptions.
Posted by Randomhero on October 9th, 2015 @ 8:12pm CDT
oly_chic wrote:Prowl heals and somehow makes it secretly back to Earth, and his first action is to finish going after a threat he received a while back that really only damns the faction he's basically been kicked out of?
If he wanted her dead because it's just that big of a threat, he would've had a Constructicon swing by her place and kill her before going to Cybertron. Or did she in her amazing skill of sending the message straight to Prowl's quarters without otherwise detection also learn how to replicate Spike's methods of staying off the grid? Which didn't exactly last that long once Prowl started looking for him.
Probably should be asking yourselves that, Kup and Arcee, rather than make snap assumptions.
Verity hasn't actually been off the grid as much as you think. Stakeout has been keeping tabs on her ever since the end of LSTOW
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:29am CDT
Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:I'm stoked this is finally happening but when the hell is this taking place? Last we saw Prowl attacked Caminus, was captured, escaped, combined with Optimus, fought combines was captured again then escaped thanks to a fight with Optimus and was taken by Ratrap who said he had plans for him.
This is acting like Prowl has been back with the Autobots, being all "things are back to normal" and just goes missing from the Ark.
What the hell?
Maybe after the latest story arc ends, Prowl bridges back to the Earth crew, joins back up with them considering they may be unaware he is wanted, and then all hell breaks loose?
No they're fully aware. Optimus filled Arcee in on everything and she's mentioned his current actions.
Optimus told Arcee Prowl was in Starscreams custody, but he may have never told her he stabbed him and escaped and is now a wanted fugitive? IDK, I'm trying here
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:58am CDT
Are we finally seeing the payoff from the AHM Coda? Where Prowl resurrected Kup in the first place and installed those other sub-programs to make him say what Prowl wanted him to say?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 10th, 2015 @ 1:32am CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Guys, this is gonna be soooooo good.
Are we finally seeing the payoff from the AHM Coda? Where Prowl resurrected Kup in the first place and installed those other sub-programs to make him say what Prowl wanted him to say?
Considering Prowl wants the wreckers called into this, and that fact that I had forgot about that and so much other stuff that was long forgotten is returning, i would not rule it out!
Posted by oly_chic on October 10th, 2015 @ 2:03am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Guys, this is gonna be soooooo good.
Are we finally seeing the payoff from the AHM Coda? Where Prowl resurrected Kup in the first place and installed those other sub-programs to make him say what Prowl wanted him to say?
Considering Prowl wants the wreckers called into this, and that fact that I had forgot about that and so much other stuff that was long forgotten is returning, i would not rule it out!
They basically said this will drag every skeleton out of the closet for Prowl, so I'm expecting AHM Coda plus more. I'm wonder if Zeta's weapons will come up, since the comic left it ambiguous whether he destroyed them as ordered.
I get the impression this will be as much Prowl bashing as they can get in with "look at all his evil deeds!" Nick Roche said Prowl will "get his comeuppance." It explains the casting list and Arcee's apparent anger and desire to hurt Prowl. In ex-RID she's just irritated with him on Earth, indifferent of him on Cybertron. In one shot Combiners she refers to Prowlestator as a monster. This progression of her anger to him in offshoots feel like build up to making her a supposed victim of Prowl.
Posted by Henry921 on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:36am CDT
Posted by Va'al on November 12th, 2015 @ 11:41pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 12th, 2015 @ 11:49pm CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 13th, 2015 @ 3:46am CST
Posted by avisie on November 13th, 2015 @ 12:36pm CST
STOP TEASING US!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by padfoo on November 13th, 2015 @ 6:13pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 13th, 2015 @ 10:49pm CST
Posted by helli0n on November 17th, 2015 @ 1:36pm CST
Previews World - TRANSFORMERS SINS OF WRECKERS #1 (OF 5)
Item Code: SEP150370
In Shops: 11/25/2015
SRP: $3.99
Posted by ciberw0lf on November 17th, 2015 @ 6:39pm CST
Posted by helli0n on November 17th, 2015 @ 7:12pm CST
ciberw0lf wrote:Dumb question: Is Sins of the Wreckers available digitally? I've checked IDW and Comixology but can't seam to find digital versions. Thanks
It should be available on the 25th or maybe the 24th of November. I'm not 100% sure on when digital comics get released.
Posted by Va'al on November 21st, 2015 @ 2:08am CST
Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #1 (of 5)—SPOTLIGHT
Nick Roche (w & a & c)
THE WRECKERS RETURN! Somebody’s kidnapped PROWL… but does anybody want him back? A lifetime of messing with everybody’s lives comes around to haunt him. Fortunately, he’s always got a plan. In this case… the one team of brutal, broken heroes… the WRECKERS!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet Points:
The sequel to LAST STAND OF THE WRECKERS—one of the most acclaimed comics in TRANSFORMERS history!
PROWL gets his comeuppance!
Features ARCEE and KUP… and the WRECKERS!
The secret history of PROWL revealed, leaving everybody hurt.
Variant cover by Alex Milne!
Posted by Henry921 on November 21st, 2015 @ 5:45am CST
Loving this so far.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 21st, 2015 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by LE0KING on November 21st, 2015 @ 5:05pm CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 11:22am CST
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 3:22pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 22nd, 2015 @ 3:48pm CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 4:41pm CST
Randomhero wrote:It looks nice. Not a fan of the coloring and the continuity is a giant mess. Maybe it takes place before combiner wars? Be terrible especially since that's been almost a year from where we are now. Maybe after this conquers arc? Who knows. Bugs the hell out of me though.
How is it a mess? This takes place after Combiner Wars, directly after the Barber arc we are in now as far as I know. The preview also states it's been 1467 days since Springer was injured so that right there is the exact timeline.
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:25pm CST
Doctor McGrath wrote:Randomhero wrote:It looks nice. Not a fan of the coloring and the continuity is a giant mess. Maybe it takes place before combiner wars? Be terrible especially since that's been almost a year from where we are now. Maybe after this conquers arc? Who knows. Bugs the hell out of me though.
How is it a mess? This takes place after Combiner Wars, directly after the Barber arc we are in now as far as I know. The preview also states it's been 1467 days since Springer was injured so that right there is the exact timeline.
Because Prowl is a wanted Fugitive. Issue 42 ended with him escaping custody being taken by Rattrap. Issue 44 revealed he is a wanted fugitive with no allies and with Wanted posters everywhere. Arcee was even filled in with what he did during Combiner Wars and Prowl is not in this current story at all. This comic shows that Prowl was on the Ark-27 and just disappeared from his quarters. 1. hes not with the Earth Autobots right now because hes a wanted fugitive everywhere and 2. The Ark is demolished right now. it is beat to hell and here, its fine. I even asked Nick personally on facebook "when does this take place?" he was kind enough to reply back to me but all he said "the current timeline of IDW" i responded back my points. "but Prowl is a wanted fugitive at the moment. he has no allies with any Autobots, especially Arcee and Kup because they know he went too far in Combiner Hunters" sadly nick did not reply to that.
Honestly? I dont think Nick knew what was going on with Prowl in John's book when he started Sins of the Wreckers. I'm not saying this is all nicks fault because thats something the editor should inform him on. Prowl is a huge character in this series, its essentially about him being missing but we know where he is and he wasnt captured. he escaped custody by Rattrap.
some have tried to justify this saying 'obviously Arcee snuck him back to Earth and he joined back up" no, thats a scene that would require being shown in John's Transformers book especially with Autbots like Kup, Jazz and Sideswipe on Ark-27 who are mroe loyal to Optimus than Arcee. Prowl is an important character to what John Barber has been doing and thats a cop-out to try explain whats going on and I have more respect for IDW and the people creating these books to do something that unprofessional. thats the equivalent of skipping Brainstorm's trial after Elegant Chaos and him just appearing as part of the crew again. Everyone would be screaming "What the is he doing hanging out with everyone again"
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:43pm CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 22nd, 2015 @ 7:48pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on November 22nd, 2015 @ 9:00pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 23rd, 2015 @ 3:41am CST
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ers/34136/
He addresses this point really early on, too.
Posted by Va'al on November 25th, 2015 @ 2:16am CST
(Spoiler free-ish)
Synopsis
THE WRECKERS RETURN! Somebody’s kidnapped PROWL… but does anybody want him back? A lifetime of messing with everybody’s lives comes around to haunt him. Fortunately, he’s always got a plan. In this case… the one team of brutal, broken heroes… the WRECKERS!
Story
It has taken some time to convince Nick Roche and the editorial team over at IDW to bring a bunch of clutch munching piston-lickers back to the stage - but years later, here we are again, sans James Roberts, looking at a very different status quo, a similar roster of names and faces, and a much, much darker (if possible) storyline.
We start from where we left in Last Stand, with the passing of time having passed, and done its thing, Springer still in a coma, Impactor and whatever is left of the Wreckers trying to find their place in the new reality of Cybertron and the Council of Worlds. The transition is seamless, in accounting for the time that sits between the two stories.
We also identify the two majorly major players of the story - from this point, at least - in Verity Carlo and Kup, two people who have all the reasons to dislike Prowl, with a passion, though not necessarily with the knowledge to do so especially in Kup's case.
One concern I do have, though it has been addressed by Roche and IDW more in general, is to do with the exact placing of this story. There are significant scenes with the Ark that do not coincide with The Transformers #47, and something seems to have shifted in Prowl's disappearance, too. That said, in John Barber we trust.
Art
The visual team, linework and layouts at least, is still concentrated in the hands and floppy hair of Roche himself, and he brings, in my opinion, something quite different to the previous Wreckers outing in Last Stand, and something perhaps more fitting to the tone he has set for his own story this time round. That, and a combination of some really dynamic work in the layouts.
A tone, of course, that has been perfectly captured and even enhanced in the chromatic wonders of Josh Burcham, who delivers a variety of lonelinesses depending on the scenes, characters, and environments. Blending a very dirty, gritty colouring and lighting for indoor conversations, and cold colours for outdoors Nome, the isolation is palpable.
Unsurprisingly, Tom B. Long is taking up lettering duties, and there is nothing I have to say that the lettering doesn't do for itself. Tone aside, we get snippets into the dark humour of the book, and the dynamics established among the cast. A cast which is, for the most part, highlighted on the covers with Roche and Burcham giving a cinematographic feel to the main one, guests Declan Shalvey and Jordie Bellaire offering a magnificent Impactor, and Alex Milne teaming up with Josh Perez for a Springer-tastic LSTOW variant (thumbnailed).
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
We've seen it with Redemption, we've seen it in recent issue of The Transformers, it has been running in the Scavengers arc, and more so in this week's release of MTMTE - the status quo for the TFverse has changed. Some characters have not. Some characters are trying to adapt. Some cannot. This is their story, as told by cruel Nick Roche.
Tight editing on the book will ensure that everything slides into place, I'm sure, removing the only major criticism I have of the issue. There are some surprisingly poignant, powerful, ominous, intriguing moments which you just need to enjoy. Make sure you take a break between this and MTMTE, too.
Posted by reVelske on November 25th, 2015 @ 2:51am CST
Posted by CombaticonsCombine? on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:02am CST
Look at those freaking shoulders.
And the freaking cannon.
Posted by CombaticonsCombine? on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:05am CST
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 25th, 2015 @ 8:20am CST
Posted by YoungPrime on November 25th, 2015 @ 9:17am CST
Genericon #378 wrote:Well, Arcee's a greedy bitch. But then, hasn't she always been a useless character in IDW? Springer's back. Awesome! I've got an idea for the song when Springer is shown to be alive and well. Jurassic Park theme. And Stakeout and Hubcap are making their second appearance!
My issue with IDW's Arcee is that I wouldn't have as much issue with her if her sole purpose wasn't killing and slapping around bots I have more stock in.
It's basically a case of Barber's favorite character kicking around other people's favorite character. I know people hated Drift at one point but Arcee in my opinion is far worse. Combat wise IDW puts her too high up on a pedestal for my taste.
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 25th, 2015 @ 12:18pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:Genericon #378 wrote:Well, Arcee's a greedy bitch. But then, hasn't she always been a useless character in IDW? Springer's back. Awesome! I've got an idea for the song when Springer is shown to be alive and well. Jurassic Park theme. And Stakeout and Hubcap are making their second appearance!
My issue with IDW's Arcee is that I wouldn't have as much issue with her if her sole purpose wasn't killing and slapping around bots I have more stock in.
It's basically a case of Barber's favorite character kicking around other people's favorite character. I know people hated Drift at one point but Arcee in my opinion is far worse. Combat wise IDW puts her too high up on a pedestal for my taste.
I have a list of characters Arcee has fought and (more or less) beat: Ratbat, Sunstorm, Blast Off, Blot, Triggerhappy, Ravage, Frenzy and Rumble, the triple changers and Shockwave. Oh, and Bombshell. Skywarp. Five characters that should have kicked her ass in battle are on that list. What a waste.
Posted by Va'al on November 25th, 2015 @ 12:24pm CST
That, and I really like what Barber has done with the character, and how Roche is handling her so far.
Posted by CaptainMagic on November 25th, 2015 @ 6:24pm CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 26th, 2015 @ 3:44am CST
Posted by Windsweeper on November 26th, 2015 @ 4:19am CST
Posted by Genericon #378 on November 26th, 2015 @ 8:13am CST
Randomhero wrote:Doctor McGrath wrote:Randomhero wrote:It looks nice. Not a fan of the coloring and the continuity is a giant mess. Maybe it takes place before combiner wars? Be terrible especially since that's been almost a year from where we are now. Maybe after this conquers arc? Who knows. Bugs the hell out of me though.
How is it a mess? This takes place after Combiner Wars, directly after the Barber arc we are in now as far as I know. The preview also states it's been 1467 days since Springer was injured so that right there is the exact timeline.
Because Prowl is a wanted Fugitive. Issue 42 ended with him escaping custody being taken by Rattrap. Issue 44 revealed he is a wanted fugitive with no allies and with Wanted posters everywhere. Arcee was even filled in with what he did during Combiner Wars and Prowl is not in this current story at all. This comic shows that Prowl was on the Ark-27 and just disappeared from his quarters. 1. hes not with the Earth Autobots right now because hes a wanted fugitive everywhere and 2. The Ark is demolished right now. it is beat to hell and here, its fine. I even asked Nick personally on facebook "when does this take place?" he was kind enough to reply back to me but all he said "the current timeline of IDW" i responded back my points. "but Prowl is a wanted fugitive at the moment. he has no allies with any Autobots, especially Arcee and Kup because they know he went too far in Combiner Hunters" sadly nick did not reply to that.
Honestly? I dont think Nick knew what was going on with Prowl in John's book when he started Sins of the Wreckers. I'm not saying this is all nicks fault because thats something the editor should inform him on. Prowl is a huge character in this series, its essentially about him being missing but we know where he is and he wasnt captured. he escaped custody by Rattrap.
some have tried to justify this saying 'obviously Arcee snuck him back to Earth and he joined back up" no, thats a scene that would require being shown in John's Transformers book especially with Autbots like Kup, Jazz and Sideswipe on Ark-27 who are mroe loyal to Optimus than Arcee. Prowl is an important character to what John Barber has been doing and thats a cop-out to try explain whats going on and I have more respect for IDW and the people creating these books to do something that unprofessional. thats the equivalent of skipping Brainstorm's trial after Elegant Chaos and him just appearing as part of the crew again. Everyone would be screaming "What the is he doing hanging out with everyone again"
They didn't say Prowl disappeared from his quarters. They said they had his signal on the screen for a moment and then it disappeared. They went into his quarters to look for any sort of indication why.
Posted by Syn_13 on November 28th, 2015 @ 5:16pm CST
I think a massive factor is the lack of a charismatic villain. From the get-go Overlord was large and in charge, he oozed charisma and made for a brilliant pantomime villain. This time round we have a mysterious villain lurking in the shadows. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
I didn't actually like the way it jumped quickly from being on Debris with Guzzle locked in the box and Springer disappearing from the life support unit, to suddenly seeing all of them on Earth assembled and ready to kick the proverbial. Thought it jumped too quickly, but I assume the next issue will show what happened in between.
The positives - it was great seeing Roadbuster again, I've missed him. I liked the
introduction of Stakeout, dropkicking the bear, that was a good touch. Arcee seems to be in everything these days, but I do like her, and I hope Roche is going to open up a bit more of her character.
I like the art style, I was a big fan of Roche's work in Spotlight: Kup as it really brought out the dark, gritty feel of the story. I feel that it'll play a part in this story, as it certainly looks to be a darker story than Last Stand. The inks and colours suited the visceral tone of Last Stand and after reading the first issue of Sins I totally get why it's been done the way it has been.
Posted by DeadCaL on November 29th, 2015 @ 4:49pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 29th, 2015 @ 9:03pm CST
Firstly, loved the issue and look forward to the rest of the story. Springer is back up, which is awesome, and I am loving Stakeout.
Secondly: this takes place after Prowl escaped Prime in issue 42, as his eye is still punched out. Plus Rattrap has proven able to sneak up and use the spacebridge, so he and Prowl together could easily get Prowl to use it and to Earth. It was also mention that in issue 45, that Kup and Arcee were returning from somewhere as Jetfire mentioned their absence. It would seem this adventure takes place during that time leading up to all hell breaking loose in the current run, Between Arcee's bridge trip to Cybertron following combiner wars then her return to find Kup and the 2 go off with the wreckers while Jetfire and Cosmos do whatever. That appears to be the timeline.
Thirdly: I feel the death of Verity Carlo coming. It just feels as though she is dying and she will by the end