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Monday, October 15th, 2012 8:18AM CDT

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Planet Iacon and Autobase Aichi bring us word of a possible new series of figures from Takara Tomy, Super GT Transformers. The first figure is a retooled version of Alternity Convoy dubbed Super GT Optimus Prime, however this figure does not appear to be part of the existing Alternity continuity. As previously stated, Super GT Optimus Prime is a repaint/retool of Alternity Convoy featuring a sponsor logos and a new rear spoiler. Check out the images mirrored below.

Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime

Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime
Credit(s): daimchoc, Autobase Aichi, Planet Iacon
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Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430522)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 15th, 2012 @ 8:29am CDT
These guys should take a lesson from the main Classics lines and release these guys with a new head as a new character. It'd be a little lame, but if they did that I'd have probably bought this mold by now and added it to my Classics collection.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430529)
Posted by RodimalToyota on October 15th, 2012 @ 8:54am CDT
I'm all over that! Never thought I'd see a GT TF based alt mode!
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430531)
Posted by guarayakha on October 15th, 2012 @ 9:05am CDT
As much as I hated how they continue to milk the series, I must say the paintjob, added spoiler, sponsor decals are kinda cool. And from the character art it seems he got a facevisor too.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430538)
Posted by Down_Shift on October 15th, 2012 @ 9:28am CDT
Looks sooooo rice!
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430543)
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2012 @ 9:47am CDT
Oh god another repa....WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

Okay that is impossibly sexy. Bought on sight.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430546)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on October 15th, 2012 @ 9:51am CDT
I think that the spoiler is neat, and I'm a bit anxious to see how that transforms in the robot mode.... But seriously.... This line has AMAZING potential, and all the figures look so good sitting there on the shelf, but this is NOT what we need. Seriously. We need new molds. Ironhide. Soundwave. Something. C'mon!!!!!
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430565)
Posted by kirbenvost on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:44am CDT
Guys, it's God Ginrai, Alternity style! :lol:

I wonder when it will cease to surprise me that this line is still alive...
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430566)
Posted by robotmel on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:44am CDT
:D
Glad to hear the Alternity line is coming back as I really loved the Alternators line (and their scale ;) ).
I have the black Nemesis Prime repaint, Megatron and Bumblebee but clearly scale wasnt a factor when creating them! Bumblebee is massive in comparison! :lol:

I would really like to get hold of any one of the Seekers and Cliffjumper but prices tend to be a little high now, most times between £40/£60+! :roll:

I can only assume this same mold with extra stickers will be around the £70-£80 mark to the U.K.? :-(
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430567)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:49am CDT
The first Alternity toy to be identified as "Optimus Prime" instead of "Convoy".

This makes me wonder how the fiction will handle this guy. What if he's meant to represent the American iteration of the character and has Gratuitous English phrases put into his dialogue? ;)


Also, can anyone here translate what those images say?
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430568)
Posted by Transformers Hoarder on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:51am CDT
I'll purchase this for sure.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430569)
Posted by RodimalToyota on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:52am CDT
Is it wrong to want to put Optimus in the back of Optimus?
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430570)
Posted by Transformers Hoarder on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:52am CDT
I picked up black convoy and was working on Convoy but I'll wait for this instead.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430575)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 15th, 2012 @ 11:24am CDT
Am I the only one who thinks "Meh"? >:oP

Sure, it's real cool, but surely not *insert price here* cool. At least too me. I'll stick with my Alternity Convoy. :lol:
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430578)
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2012 @ 11:30am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The first Alternity toy to be identified as "Optimus Prime" instead of "Convoy".

This makes me wonder how the fiction will handle this guy. What if he's meant to represent the American iteration of the character and has Gratuitous English phrases put into his dialogue? ;)


Also, can anyone here translate what those images say?


The top image appears to be a survey. The lower image, per my rough, early-morning-at-work translation would be :

"Takara Tomy Boos (not sure, looks like "boost", or "goods" with a typo) is the debut of a new Transformer toy series "Transformer GT"! Japan's premier Motorsports company Super GT and Transformers are collaborating! This racing car transforms into a robot?! This new Boos series will be coming at you real soon (not sure about one of the kanji here)! Can you see all the details on this cool racing car? If you haven't heard of Super GT check it out!"
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430582)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 15th, 2012 @ 11:45am CDT
So it's instead for a series called Transformers GT?
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430585)
Posted by RodimalToyota on October 15th, 2012 @ 12:03pm CDT
If this a series, I just went broke before being broke.


If ONLY they would make some new cars, but make some legendary GT cars from the Day, like the Toyota GT-1, and Mazda 7B7.

Now that would be epic, make binaltech look like lamealtech.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430604)
Posted by STngAR on October 15th, 2012 @ 12:37pm CDT
Never got into collecting the Alt, Blt, or Alternity line. Does look nice but just not nice enough for me to get. :MAXIMAL:
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430610)
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2012 @ 12:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So it's instead for a series called Transformers GT?


I can either alleviate your desire for continuity or make it worse; there is not a single mention of the word Alternity on either of these images.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430612)
Posted by Kibble on October 15th, 2012 @ 12:59pm CDT
gavinfuzzy wrote:Am I the only one who thinks "Meh"? >:oP

Sure, it's real cool, but surely not *insert price here* cool. At least too me. I'll stick with my Alternity Convoy. :lol:


Nope...I find it an unoriginal and boring play. Feels like the movie fig treatment...Bumblebee, Alternate Race Stripe Bumblebee, Race Number Bumblebee, Nest Logo Bumblebee, Unexplicable Different Color Bumblebee, Black Hood Bumblebee, Lightning Decals Bumblebee, etc, etc.

I'm glad I never bothered attempting to complete this so called line...can it even be considered a 'line' with only 4 molds?
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430616)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on October 15th, 2012 @ 1:16pm CDT
Kibble wrote:I'm glad I never bothered attempting to complete this so called line...can it even be considered a 'line' with only 4 molds?


The Hybrid Style line only had 2 molds: Galaxy Convoy and G1 Convoy.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430625)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 15th, 2012 @ 1:35pm CDT
Diem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So it's instead for a series called Transformers GT?


I can either alleviate your desire for continuity or make it worse; there is not a single mention of the word Alternity on either of these images.
Well, so far, without any fiction to back this toy up, continuity ain't a concern for now.

Still, a new series could be interesting. Thanks. ;)
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430646)
Posted by rpetras on October 15th, 2012 @ 2:17pm CDT
Another Optimus, means another "No thank you" from me.

However, if they did Bluestreak, Prowl and Smokescreen using this mold I'd replace my classics with them. Not that they really need more repaints.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430667)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 15th, 2012 @ 3:03pm CDT
This is what my translator has come up with when it comes to the post made on Autobase Aichi:

October 15, 2012
■ 20 years at Dengeki Festival (add image), announced series "Transformers GT" new

Will be held at Makuhari Messe on the day of October 20-21, 2008 Dengeki Festival information booth exhibitors TOMY, stating that exhibited a prototype of a toy series "Transformers GT" new has been published.

Super GT in tie-up with the goods, as far as viewing the image, it seems to be something that was reproduced in the race spec GT-R version Orutaniti.
There is currently no information other than the image you cited below. Previously, there was an article, every time the Super GT novelty of Transformers have been distributed (hear) , so eventually, the expectation that you are not to launch a full-fledged toy tie-up was. Postscript : was held in April 2012, at the Plaza event of the opening round Super GT, photo of the prototype will be posted, with respect to GT-R specification Super GT This questionnaire along had been taken to the visitors . (Quoted source blog) personal (to kill one's boredom ) is probably the same as those that will be exhibited at the festival 20 years of this blitz.


From the jest of it, this is a prototype and not the final product. So those with "head sculpt" issues might see them making slight alterations to that and anything else. I am hoping they do such with the feet and legs, though. :lol:

And as for the name... I felt disappointed when e-HOBBY did not allow the VSE to be part of the of the original Generation 1 line. However, this Super GT line might be interesting - As we might even see a GT-R version of Megatron be added to this. :-? But for me, I have to pass if or when it comes out. I have to rewrite my entire want list, as well as refocus my 2013 goals... Which pretty much means that unless the final version looks better than this to me, I will be sticking with the original Generation 1 characters (while hoping that the All Spark manga (which I give the first chapter a 4/5) gives way to a new toyline).
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430702)
Posted by Stormrider on October 15th, 2012 @ 6:05pm CDT
Wow, another Optimus Prime/Convoy figure. We don't have enough of them. 8-}
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430727)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 15th, 2012 @ 6:59pm CDT
Stormrider wrote:Wow, another Optimus Prime/Convoy figure. We don't have enough of them. 8-}


Are you saying that we have to deprive the crazy Optimus Prime/Convoy fans of adding another piece to their already cluttered basement/bedroom? ;)
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430732)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on October 15th, 2012 @ 7:22pm CDT
Missed out on the first Alternity red Convoy, so this will make a nice replacement. It's an even better replacement, in fact, as the spoiler lends a bit of aesthetic difference to the black Alternity Convoy I have.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430733)
Posted by Kibble on October 15th, 2012 @ 7:28pm CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Missed out on the first Alternity red Convoy, so this will make a nice replacement. It's an even better replacement, in fact, as the spoiler lends a bit of aesthetic difference to the black Alternity Convoy I have.


Missed out or chose not to buy?

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

But happy for you if this one is more to your liking...

*edit: uh-oh, looks like there's only one left now. But nonetheless, he's been readily available for a while.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430735)
Posted by XDMan on October 15th, 2012 @ 7:30pm CDT
If he were in Cars 3, but as a separate character...
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430744)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on October 15th, 2012 @ 7:45pm CDT
Kibble wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Missed out on the first Alternity red Convoy, so this will make a nice replacement. It's an even better replacement, in fact, as the spoiler lends a bit of aesthetic difference to the black Alternity Convoy I have.


Missed out or chose not to buy?

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

But happy for you if this one is more to your liking...

*edit: uh-oh, looks like there's only one left now. But nonetheless, he's been readily available for a while.


Heheh, I'm not living in the US, so shipping would be brutal.

Red Alternity Convoy was sold out quickly where I'm at, so I settled for the black version.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430763)
Posted by Kibble on October 15th, 2012 @ 9:05pm CDT
Robot kingdom also has it in stock for about $40 if shipping is any more reasonable from Hong Kong...I think they charge about $15 to ship to the US for something like that.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430769)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on October 15th, 2012 @ 9:29pm CDT
After a bit of consideration, I think I'll wait for the Super GT. I'd be perfectly fine with the original Alternity Convoy if this hadn't been announced, but I really like the larger spoiler and details that set it apart from the black Alternity version.

I plan on posing both black Alt Convoy and Super GT Convoy side by side--with the various little aesthetic changes, they won't look like mere repaints of each other.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430773)
Posted by Blozor on October 15th, 2012 @ 9:33pm CDT
Does anyone else remember a time when Optimus Prime wasn't the only Transformer? I'm not sure Takara Tomy does.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430781)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:10pm CDT
Blozor wrote:Does anyone else remember a time when Optimus Prime wasn't the only Transformer? I'm not sure Takara Tomy does.


You mean within the past year it was not Takara Tomy that reissued series accurate versions of Soundblaster and Twincast, announced a series accurate Devastor, and also announced Fortress Maximus for their Encore line... Lambor, Alert, Soundwave, and two sets of Cassettrons for their Masterpiece line... And both Stepper and Artfire for the UNITED line? ;)
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430782)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:13pm CDT
Blozor wrote:Does anyone else remember a time when Optimus Prime wasn't the only Transformer? I'm not sure Takara Tomy does.


Not sure either, but they certainly do think he's the safest character to make toys out of, for now.

The past few non-Hasbro releases have started and ended with only OP and Bee (DMK, Revoltech, Tomytec cars, and the recent Caliber statues). And now that Bee seems to have become the public enemy of TF collectors, OP is the only one they feel can ensure sales.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430785)
Posted by President-prime on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:19pm CDT
You're right! There's is only only one transformer...and that's Optimus prime. If they put out a hundred different versions of him, I'll still get him. Get over it. There's hundreds of me out there who are prime collectors. Takara-tomy knows their market
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430788)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 15th, 2012 @ 10:24pm CDT
Blozor wrote:Does anyone else remember a time when Optimus Prime wasn't the only Transformer? I'm not sure Takara Tomy does.

Remember a time when Bumblebee never appeared in over 4 consecutive series?

Hasbro does not. :lol:
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430813)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 16th, 2012 @ 12:15am CDT
President-prime wrote:You're right! There's is only only one transformer...and that's Optimus prime. If they put out a hundred different versions of him, I'll still get him. Get over it. There's hundreds of me out there who are prime collectors. Takara-tomy knows their market


That is the thing, P-P. Takara Tomy DOES NOT know their market in account that their stocks are worth an estimated $5 a share. And one part of that is in part of the fact they do not really know their market. Because if they did, they would have put out an actual reissue of Sixshot and not the one that was released in the Asian market.

In other words... You and those like you cover 1% or less of the market. Because the rest of the fanbase include a combination of the Dinobot fans, the city-bot fans, the Scramble City-style combiner fans, the non-Scramble City combiner fans, the Headmaster fans, the Targetmaster fans, the Godmaster fans, the Powermaster fans, the Headmaster Jr. fans, the Mini-Con fans, the Micromaster fans, the Action Master fans, the Powered Master fans, the Brainmaster fans, and the Pretender fans. And that excludes those who only prefer a single character, series, line, etc.

In other words... It is good that you collect a singular character. But remember that the market is, in fact, demanding a proper reissue of Sixshot... As well as G1 versions of the Dinobots (which can be done if they made an effort), G1 Artfire, and many more characters that are neither Optimus Prime or Convoy. :WHISTLE:
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430924)
Posted by roBROmanceFTW on October 16th, 2012 @ 9:44am CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
President-prime wrote:You're right! There's is only only one transformer...and that's Optimus prime. If they put out a hundred different versions of him, I'll still get him. Get over it. There's hundreds of me out there who are prime collectors. Takara-tomy knows their market


That is the thing, P-P. Takara Tomy DOES NOT know their market in account that their stocks are worth an estimated $5 a share. And one part of that is in part of the fact they do not really know their market. Because if they did, they would have put out an actual reissue of Sixshot and not the one that was released in the Asian market.

In other words... You and those like you cover 1% or less of the market. Because the rest of the fanbase include a combination of the Dinobot fans, the city-bot fans, the Scramble City-style combiner fans, the non-Scramble City combiner fans, the Headmaster fans, the Targetmaster fans, the Godmaster fans, the Powermaster fans, the Headmaster Jr. fans, the Mini-Con fans, the Micromaster fans, the Action Master fans, the Powered Master fans, the Brainmaster fans, and the Pretender fans. And that excludes those who only prefer a single character, series, line, etc.

In other words... It is good that you collect a singular character. But remember that the market is, in fact, demanding a proper reissue of Sixshot... As well as G1 versions of the Dinobots (which can be done if they made an effort), G1 Artfire, and many more characters that are neither Optimus Prime or Convoy. :WHISTLE:


KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:You mean within the past year it was not Takara Tomy that reissued series accurate versions of Soundblaster and Twincast, announced a series accurate Devastor, and also announced Fortress Maximus for their Encore line... Lambor, Alert, Soundwave, and two sets of Cassettrons for their Masterpiece line... And both Stepper and Artfire for the UNITED line?


Wait...huh??? It's not easy being a toy company. Hell, it's not easy being a company. Period. First and foremost, Has-Tak is out to make money. Secondly, they will not often use the name of an obscure character to push sales. Lastly, repaints and minor alterations to existing molds return higher profits than starting from scratch. Even third parties are capitalizing on this notion. If you don't like GT Prime, so be it. But to argue that Has-Tak only releases OP and Bee is just being asinine (not strictly referring to the above quotes though.) For the 1% who only collect OP toys, only 1% collect strictly Dinobot toys, only 1% collect Powermaster toys, only 1% collect Godmaster toys, and so on and so forth. The fanbase is huge. Most of us collect bits and pieces from all over the Transformers multiverse. However, I'm willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of Transformers toy consumers are kids, even if they themselves are not the customers.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430943)
Posted by RodimalToyota on October 16th, 2012 @ 11:14am CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
President-prime wrote:You're right! There's is only only one transformer...and that's Optimus prime. If they put out a hundred different versions of him, I'll still get him. Get over it. There's hundreds of me out there who are prime collectors. Takara-tomy knows their market


That is the thing, P-P. Takara Tomy DOES NOT know their market in account that their stocks are worth an estimated $5 a share. And one part of that is in part of the fact they do not really know their market.



:BANG_HEAD:

5.2$ a share, 96 million shares, 3.37% dividend?
a current Q3 net profit of 17Million USD + ?

The only thing they don't know how to do, is lose money.
Don't spew Bologna because you don't like Optimus Toys, or are butt hurt you can't get asian exclusives with out paying for the extra cost associated.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430945)
Posted by Diem on October 16th, 2012 @ 11:18am CDT
RodimalToyota wrote:Don't spew Bologna because you don't like Optimus Toys, or are butt hurt you can't get asian exclusives with out paying for the extra cost associated.


Keep it civil man. You can discuss finances all you want but there's no need for ad hominem stuff here.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1430951)
Posted by RodimalToyota on October 16th, 2012 @ 11:38am CDT
Diem wrote:
RodimalToyota wrote:Don't spew Bologna because you don't like Optimus Toys, or are butt hurt you can't get asian exclusives with out paying for the extra cost associated.


Keep it civil man. You can discuss finances all you want but there's no need for ad hominem stuff here.


an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or unrelated belief of the person supporting it.


Not really what I did, but I guess we'll just continue to look like children in the eye's of these companies, when we disagree, we will just call them stupid and say they have no right to make toys because they made me boo hoo.

You want to look like Adults and maybe get Takara,Hasbro to listen to you?

Act like one. Back your claims up.






back to the point..

Optimus Does sell, and Japanese culture has a love for the Auto, so it makes sense to come out with limited racing versions of popular Japanese cars. It's not "Ricer" its Racing in the East. I'm sure this will be a hit in Asia.... where it's released.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431072)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 16th, 2012 @ 5:16pm CDT
roBROmanceFTW wrote:Wait...huh??? It's not easy being a toy company. Hell, it's not easy being a company. Period. First and foremost, Has-Tak is out to make money. Secondly, they will not often use the name of an obscure character to push sales. Lastly, repaints and minor alterations to existing molds return higher profits than starting from scratch. Even third parties are capitalizing on this notion. If you don't like GT Prime, so be it. But to argue that Has-Tak only releases OP and Bee is just being asinine (not strictly referring to the above quotes though.) For the 1% who only collect OP toys, only 1% collect strictly Dinobot toys, only 1% collect Powermaster toys, only 1% collect Godmaster toys, and so on and so forth. The fanbase is huge. Most of us collect bits and pieces from all over the Transformers multiverse. However, I'm willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of Transformers toy consumers are kids, even if they themselves are not the customers.


RodimalToyota wrote: :BANG_HEAD:

5.2$ a share, 96 million shares, 3.37% dividend?
a current Q3 net profit of 17Million USD + ?

The only thing they don't know how to do, is lose money.
Don't spew Bologna because you don't like Optimus Toys, or are butt hurt you can't get asian exclusives with out paying for the extra cost associated.


Great ways of striking arguments against what I say when you both do not bother looking at all the facts! :lol: Such as this link explaining why they have seen a sharp decrease of an estimate 200 yen per share, which also impacts the amount they offer their share owners. Something that has them saying "we want to make money, but we need to adapt if we want to make a solid profit in the end." LINK: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/business/T121008002198.htm

Which leads to my point. Takara Tomy has seen a steep decline in sales from April to October, which has forced them to refocus on their business plans. And while they say only 25% of the market are young girls, it does not mean the 75% are young boys. It means that they need to refocus on targeting those who seek out aftermarket pieces while focusing on those who want to play with their TV-series promoted pieces. (And FYI, both times I went to Japan had me near-religiously visit their Transformers aisle.)

Point being to this person is that by promoting this prototype, they are not trying to appeal to just the Optimus Prime fans. They are making it in hopes of expanding past their current G1, UNITED, and PRIME lines... By creating something that may allow them to expand the fanbase once again. However, he chose to snub the remaining 99% by saying that there is only one Transformer and that making this prototype means that they are listening to the market... Not the fact he has the chance to obtain another piece for his collection. Because as we speak, the item is fine and will sell well to select members within the Japanese market and secondary markets. But it would not sell as well as the Fortress Maximus reissue, or if they were to find a way to recreate the molds for select characters that fans are asking for.

And Rodimal? Your assumptions about me were as funny as the statement about how companies are out there to make a profit. :lol: Because I have stated that me not backtracking when it comes to my soon-to-be-AFA-graded-Transformers-because-I-hope-to-pass-onto-my-future-children collection has made it hard for me to both want one and not want one. Plus, my only dismissal of this piece involve the legs and feet! Not the fact that it is another Optimus Prime.

Point being... If you both know me, then you know I support his collection, as well as think this is a fine adult-oriented Transformer... But I cannot support his need to snub those who do not share both his love and enthusiasm for this character. :lol:
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431092)
Posted by RodimalToyota on October 16th, 2012 @ 5:50pm CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
roBROmanceFTW wrote:Wait...huh??? It's not easy being a toy company. Hell, it's not easy being a company. Period. First and foremost, Has-Tak is out to make money. Secondly, they will not often use the name of an obscure character to push sales. Lastly, repaints and minor alterations to existing molds return higher profits than starting from scratch. Even third parties are capitalizing on this notion. If you don't like GT Prime, so be it. But to argue that Has-Tak only releases OP and Bee is just being asinine (not strictly referring to the above quotes though.) For the 1% who only collect OP toys, only 1% collect strictly Dinobot toys, only 1% collect Powermaster toys, only 1% collect Godmaster toys, and so on and so forth. The fanbase is huge. Most of us collect bits and pieces from all over the Transformers multiverse. However, I'm willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of Transformers toy consumers are kids, even if they themselves are not the customers.


RodimalToyota wrote: :BANG_HEAD:

5.2$ a share, 96 million shares, 3.37% dividend?
a current Q3 net profit of 17Million USD + ?

The only thing they don't know how to do, is lose money.
Don't spew Bologna because you don't like Optimus Toys, or are butt hurt you can't get asian exclusives with out paying for the extra cost associated.


Great ways of striking arguments against what I say when you both do not bother looking at all the facts! :lol: Such as this link explaining why they have seen a sharp decrease of an estimate 200 yen per share, which also impacts the amount they offer their share owners. Something that has them saying "we want to make money, but we need to adapt if we want to make a solid profit in the end." LINK: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/business/T121008002198.htm

Which leads to my point. Takara Tomy has seen a steep decline in sales from April to October, which has forced them to refocus on their business plans. And while they say only 25% of the market are young girls, it does not mean the 75% are young boys. It means that they need to refocus on targeting those who seek out aftermarket pieces while focusing on those who want to play with their TV-series promoted pieces. (And FYI, both times I went to Japan had me near-religiously visit their Transformers aisle.)

Point being to this person is that by promoting this prototype, they are not trying to appeal to just the Optimus Prime fans. They are making it in hopes of expanding past their current G1, UNITED, and PRIME lines... By creating something that may allow them to expand the fanbase once again. However, he chose to snub the remaining 99% by saying that there is only one Transformer and that making this prototype means that they are listening to the market... Not the fact he has the chance to obtain another piece for his collection. Because as we speak, the item is fine and will sell well to select members within the Japanese market and secondary markets. But it would not sell as well as the Fortress Maximus reissue, or if they were to find a way to recreate the molds for select characters that fans are asking for.

And Rodimal? Your assumptions about me were as funny as the statement about how companies are out there to make a profit. :lol: Because I have stated that me not backtracking when it comes to my soon-to-be-AFA-graded-Transformers-because-I-hope-to-pass-onto-my-future-children collection has made it hard for me to both want one and not want one. Plus, my only dismissal of this piece involve the legs and feet! Not the fact that it is another Optimus Prime.

Point being... If you both know me, then you know I support his collection, as well as think this is a fine adult-oriented Transformer... But I cannot support his need to snub those who do not share both his love and enthusiasm for this character. :lol:


Actually the sharp decrease is from

An increase in the percentage of sales devoted to income tax expenses from -0.74% to 2.27% was a key component in the falling bottom line in the face of rising revenues


http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?ticker=7867:JP

My response was to this assumption...

That is the thing, P-P. Takara Tomy DOES NOT know their market in account that their stocks are worth an estimated $5 a share. And one part of that is in part of the fact they do not really know their market. Because if they did, they would have put out an actual reissue of Sixshot and not the one that was released in the Asian market.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431189)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 16th, 2012 @ 9:34pm CDT
RodimalToyota wrote:My response was to this assumption...

That is the thing, P-P. Takara Tomy DOES NOT know their market in account that their stocks are worth an estimated $5 a share. And one part of that is in part of the fact they do not really know their market. Because if they did, they would have put out an actual reissue of Sixshot and not the one that was released in the Asian market.


*facepalms* Funny how you accuse me of making assumptions when you know absolutely NOTHING about me and how I do my fact findings. Plus, also, this better suits my need to know why they are not doing so well stock-wise: http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/english/ir/ ... 17p_en.pdf

My point is tied to what they said: They have seen a sharp decline in sales within Japan, and a sharp increase in sales in other areas. Are you saying that this has nothing to do with the sharp decline of their stock value because you assume that I am making an assumption? :lol:

Point being is this: The marketplace only exists as long there are buyers. Buyers want different versions of Optimus Prime, so Takara Tomy made "Super GT" Optimus Prime. But if they only focus on Optimus Prime, then they are ignoring the rest that make their own marketplace exist. And right now, the fans are requesting C-108 Artfire, C-114 Fortress Maximus, and D-98 Sixshot.

And besides... Out of the 1,000+ registered Shmax members that have their collections listed, only 7 own the "Asian premium" Sixshot. This pretty much says that they missed out on a chance to improve sales in Japan when it comes to their Transformers line, as those within the marketplace wanted either an Encore Sixshot or one in "2010" Predaking-like packaging. Something I hope they do before the 2013 report says that they lost more profits in Japan. >:oP

So yeah... If you are going to accuse me of making an assumption, don't make an assumption that has you believe you know what I am saying, and so on. ;)
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431837)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on October 18th, 2012 @ 6:15pm CDT
Lol. It's amazing what anonymity has done to disagreements. :P

Diem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So it's instead for a series called Transformers GT?


I can either alleviate your desire for continuity or make it worse; there is not a single mention of the word Alternity on either of these images.


Well, if this is true, then maybe I don't have to include him in my collection. It'd save me a load since I'm already going to be forking over all funds for Banzai-Tron, Galvatron, MP Soundwave, MP Audicons, Asia "Imports," and TFCs Uranos.
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431855)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 18th, 2012 @ 7:03pm CDT
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Lol. It's amazing what anonymity has done to disagreements. :P

Diem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So it's instead for a series called Transformers GT?


I can either alleviate your desire for continuity or make it worse; there is not a single mention of the word Alternity on either of these images.


Well, if this is true, then maybe I don't have to include him in my collection. It'd save me a load since I'm already going to be forking over all funds for Banzai-Tron, Galvatron, MP Soundwave, MP Audicons, Asia "Imports," and TFCs Uranos.


It is true on account that the line was completed long ago, and they are capping it off with exclusives that did not make it into the series. >:oP Plus, they are also trying to go a new direction with their Transformers lines, so it is safe to say he is not a new Alternity.

So when it comes to this line, I can see them adding Topspin, Lockdown, Smokescreen, and me adding a padlock to my wallet if/when they do. :lol:
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431906)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on October 18th, 2012 @ 11:13pm CDT
Ooooooooh! Lockdown! That sounds great!
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431916)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 18th, 2012 @ 11:55pm CDT
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Ooooooooh! Lockdown! That sounds great!


100% agreed. And I am not one for Decepticons. ;)^
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431972)
Posted by daimchoc on October 19th, 2012 @ 5:50am CDT
Image



Optimus Prime, Nemisis Prime
Ultra Magnus, Toxitron

c/o Drillbit from TFW2005
Re: Takara Tomy Super GT Optimus Prime (1431978)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 19th, 2012 @ 6:04am CDT
Finally! A Toxitron! :grin:

Wait... It's a car...

I'm still waiting for my radioactive RTS Prime Toxitron repaint.

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