Takara Tomy TG Series Announced - Fall of Cybertron Optimus Prime and Jazz

I'm listening. Wonder if Shockwave will get a separate release here too. It would be hard to believe the Arms Micron version being the only release.

A good paint job would help quite a bit with these molds, and considering the rising costs of them I'm much more open to importing at this point.

I'm not holding my breath for chrome, shiny paint however...

pics or it didn't happen...

Although I'm not sure a nice, shiny coat of paint can make these lackluster figs the jam either way...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'm not holding my breath for chrome, shiny paint however...

Full Metal Hero says that chrome is "confirmed".

Flux Convoy wrote:I'm listening. Wonder if Shockwave will get a separate release here too. It would be hard to believe the Arms Micron version being the only release.

Good point. That will be an interesting one to see how it's handled. I wonder if the Arms Micron figure will just be integrated into this TG line.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'm not holding my breath for chrome, shiny paint however...

Full Metal Hero says that chrome is "confirmed".

So it's like Henkei then? OK then.

btw I wish TakaraTomy had gone with a designation other than "TG"

Are North America figures different somehow to those we get in Europe?

Ravage XK wrote:Are North America figures different somehow to those we get in Europe?

Only the packaging is different, the EU Deluxe cards are smaller than the rest of the world's by 1/6th. The figures are all the same.

Good news. This opens up the door for metallic paintjobs and extra paint apps that make these small crappy figures actually worth buying. How about a G1 accurate FOC Bruticus that includes a proper grey and blue Vortex ? I pre-ordered that Takara Shockwave hoping it would have a more cartoon accurate paintjob like Henkei Cyclonus colors.

Ahh yes, the EU doing its thing to save cardboard.

Can Takara make them bigger too?

mooncake623 wrote:Can Takara make them bigger too?

Upsizing molds? Wouldn't that make them a KO company?

Sorry guys, but no ammount of metallic paint or chrome can save these figures from their irregular size. One jazz should not be looking RTS Jazz in the chest unless its a scout, pass just as I passed on the domestic version.

mooncake623 wrote:Can Takara make them bigger too?



Upsizing molds? Wouldn't that make them a KO company?

they've downsize molds before(Energon Megs) so why not!

mooncake623 wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:Can Takara make them bigger too?



Upsizing molds? Wouldn't that make them a KO company?

they've downsize molds before(Energon Megs) so why not!

Only once, even that was exceptional. Don't get your hopes up.

mooncake623 wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:Can Takara make them bigger too?



Upsizing molds? Wouldn't that make them a KO company?



they've downsize molds before(Energon Megs) so why not!



Only once, even that was exceptional. Don't get your hopes up.

Oh I don't believe for a sec they will... but again i can hope

Sodan-1 wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:I'm listening. Wonder if Shockwave will get a separate release here too. It would be hard to believe the Arms Micron version being the only release.

Good point. That will be an interesting one to see how it's handled. I wonder if the Arms Micron figure will just be integrated into this TG line.

Considering the Arms Micron figure is being released the same month these are supposedly coming out (December 2012), I don't see it happening.

TakaraTomy is moving Shockwave to their Prime line to get more figures out for that line because he appears on the show.

Rated X wrote:Good news. This opens up the door for metallic paintjobs and extra paint apps that make these small crappy figures actually worth buying. How about a G1 accurate FOC Bruticus that includes a proper grey and blue Vortex ? I pre-ordered that Takara Shockwave hoping it would have a more cartoon accurate paintjob like Henkei Cyclonus colors.

Well he's going to be on the Prime cartoon so I imagine the toy's colors might be changed to reflect that version rather than the G1 cartoon.

Randy

What about Cybertron Starscream...they upsized him from a Voyager to a Supreme...

Not Has to Tak version, but close enough.

Kibble wrote:What about Cybertron Starscream...they upsized him from a Voyager to a Supreme...

True, but I still don't see TakaraTomy do that to every single figure.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:True, but I still don't see TakaraTomy do that to every single figure.

Neither do I...especially from a small deluxe to a regular size deluxe. but I didn't want to miss out on the convo.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kibble wrote:What about Cybertron Starscream...they upsized him from a Voyager to a Supreme...

True, but I still don't see TakaraTomy do that to every single figure.

Neither of the figures talked about here have been upsized or downsized. They were all separate molds. They're extremely similar but they're separate molds.

Flux Convoy wrote:Neither of the figures talked about here have been upsized or downsized. They were all separate molds. They're extremely similar but they're separate molds.

Meaning? That the design was altered?

Kibble wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:Neither of the figures talked about here have been upsized or downsized. They were all separate molds. They're extremely similar but they're separate molds.

Meaning? That the design was altered?

See, that's where the difference between retool and separate mold enters a grey area. SL Galvatron could very well be downsized from Energon Megatron from the design sketches on, using the same design cues but executing them in two different sizes.
Starscream is a bit harder to properly place, as the differences between the Voyager and the Supreme are quite numerous. It is possible that TakaraTomy went ahead with an earlier version of the design, and that Hasbro refined it for the Supreme.

I do hope they upscale Optimus to a voyager just like they did with Soundwave. I'll be getting that Blaster, but not Soundwave and Soundblaster, the deluxe Soundwave is good enough.

They don't need to upscale all the others, just Optimus (and Ultra Magnus). Eventhough I already own Optimus .

e-Hobby has revealed the first images of Takara Tomy's Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron TG01 Optimus Prime and TG02 Jazz. These redecos of Hasbro's Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Optimus Prime and Jazz feature new metallic paint jobs. Images mirrored below.

Hmph. Would you look at that. They're better than the U.S release. I'm so surprised.

Yep, although I don't agree with them dropping the blue from Jazz entirely, these look significantly better than the Hasbro versions. Too bad they cost more than twice as much.

primes a pass butt jazz looks amazing he is definitly on my want list

I already own the American versions, but man, those look beautiful.

SPRINGER112 wrote:primes a pass butt

And with that, my coffee has passed through my nasal passages.

Jazz looks mucgh better than Hasbro's version. However I'm uninterested in the mold itself.

Personally, that Prime is too shiny for me to feel like it belongs in a war.

But that Jazz has an extremely accurate deco, unlike Bizarre Blue Jazz we got from Hasbro.

Mkall wrote:Jazz looks mucgh better than Hasbro's version. However I'm uninterested in the mold itself.

Why you no what this c00l guy?



Sideswipe is sad now.

I never felt the need to get Hasbro's Optimus Prime but I must admit I like Takara's.

Not a line I plan to collect, but I always love how they handle their collaborated series. Because when they do something like this, they add that eye candy element that makes me think they are worth having on display. But until then... I hope to see their equally amazing packaging.

That, and this is the kind of paintjob I wish they had done with the Sixshot reissue. Second thought - I hope that if they make a Japanese version of that reissue, they use this redeco style. That, and turn the chrome guns a metallic white. (Because then I'd buy it regardless of packaging style and box art.)

Well, that Optimus does pretty much everything that I was trying to accomplish with my custom painted one. Plus it has that nice shiny paint. Jazz looks pretty good too, though I prefer the blue to the purple. Oh well, might as well pre-order these.

Wow, I must be the only person who just can't stand that purple-ish gray color on Jazz. I do think the shinier white looks better (though I wonder if the actual figure will look like that), and the additional paint apps are wonderful... But I just can't get over that color, I think Hasbro's blue is better than that. Of course I wonder why we couldn't just get a properly colored version with black and blue colors. Also the color looks more washed-out that the color in FoC, at least to me. I guess I'm just too much of a G1 Jazz fan?

As for Prime, I think he might be too shiny. Really though, I'd rather have the overly-shiny Prime with the silver parts instead of the depressingly sucky light gray on the Hasbro one. That said I really don't like Prime's FoC look, so I'll be sticking with WfC Prime. That said I would consider getting FoC Prime if they made a voyager version with a improved transformation (not just an upscale).

That jazz looks so much better

Hotrodimust wrote:That jazz looks so much better

I totally agree. If it wasn't such an awful mold, I'd buy this one too.

GuyIncognito wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:That jazz looks so much better

I totally agree. If it wasn't such an awful mold, I'd buy this one too.

They really arnt that bad I did like them when they first came out but they grew on me

GuyIncognito wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:That jazz looks so much better

I totally agree. If it wasn't such an awful mold, I'd buy this one too.

The only thing I don't like about the mold is the sculpting of his head. The rest looked pretty nice, down to the TRON tires.

Why can't you be in America with us to get better toys from you than Hasbro, Takara? If you design toys like the ones shown, could you at least sell them at hard to find places?

Yep, definitely sticking with my preorder. Takara wins...again.

I'm getting to the point where I'm considering skipping all Hasbro releases entirely. With Takara, I always have to wait longer, but they're always so much better. Sure, it means that I have to pull off some ugly Arms Micron ports from their AM figures using pliers, but it works and they end up looking soooo much better (even with stickers) than the stuff that Hasbro has given us.

Hasbro focuses on price, Takara focuses on accuracy. For me as a collector, that makes Takara the clear choice, especially now that I'm not collecting as many lines as I used to (most of my catching up on lines I missed in the past is done now).

HOLY CRAP!!!

They don't actually look half bad. Well done, Takara.

Still a 'no' mind you.

Wow, these look so much better than the hasbro versions and I like both them especially the jazz.How he looks is much more accuate to the game version.
I like the Optimus too and is again better than the Hasbro version.
I am more willing to spend on the Takara versions than the Hasbro versions because they look better and are nicer to look at.Well done Takara !!