TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences
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Site sponsor TFsource dropped by to let us know they have received some information from Takara regarding the recently listed UN-32 Artfire and how it will differ from the Million Publishing Exclusive version.
TFsource wrote:Although we don't have a picture yet, we have some details from Takara Tomy on the differences in the Million Publishing vs. United Artfires.
We have learned a little more on the Million Publishing vs. United Artfire details! Coloring will be different, Million Publishing will include two partners, Nightstick and Sparks, the UN version will include one, likely "Nightstick" but that is not for sure. The million publishing version will be limited, UN-32, will not. There may be more differences such as packaging, etc. If you want to change your preorder accordingly, please email customercare@tfsource.com now, so that we can modify your order!
http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/4225/
http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/4693/
Pictures of the Million Artfire can be found below, no picture on UN-32 yet!
http://millionhero.jp/tfg2012/artfire.html
Credit(s): TFsource
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Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392206)
Posted by Kibble on June 21st, 2012 @ 9:40am EDT
Posted by Kibble on June 21st, 2012 @ 9:40am EDT
It's odd Takara is pulling the rug out from under MP like that. While the two little buddies are a nice touch, I don't think the extra one will be worth $70 to me...especially when you could just find his original mold and redeco him yourself. I'm about 95% likely to be canceling that MP preorder...
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392218)
Posted by Mkall on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:05am EDT
Posted by Mkall on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:05am EDT
I'll be getting both. One will be Artfire and the other will be Shattered Glass Inferno.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392223)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:17am EDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:17am EDT
I'm giving some serious thought to cancelling my preorder for the MP one. Any clue when that's coming out?
I'd really like to see a picture of this to decide which one I want. I don't really have any warm, fuzzy feelings for Arty and the $100 price difference between the two is really steep. It's cool we're getting a Classics Artfire, but I don't know if I really need to shell out the dough for the priciest one available; not if I have a choice.
I'd really like to see a picture of this to decide which one I want. I don't really have any warm, fuzzy feelings for Arty and the $100 price difference between the two is really steep. It's cool we're getting a Classics Artfire, but I don't know if I really need to shell out the dough for the priciest one available; not if I have a choice.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392227)
Posted by It Is Him on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:35am EDT
Posted by It Is Him on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:35am EDT
Yeah, I'm with Kibble. This whole thing is rather strange.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392228)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:41am EDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:41am EDT
Me too, I really wanna see the up close comparisons between the 2. 
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392234)
Posted by triKlops on June 21st, 2012 @ 11:12am EDT
Posted by triKlops on June 21st, 2012 @ 11:12am EDT
looks like this will be my cost effective alternative instead of the MillPub one
would like to see some flicks before i plunk down the cash though
would like to see some flicks before i plunk down the cash though
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392252)
Posted by Flux Convoy on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:02pm EDT
Posted by Flux Convoy on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:02pm EDT
Hey folks, here's some information that isn't really useful information so there. Oh and one of these is missing a Target Master. Maybe... There, all the facts, just for you. 
I'm sticking with my initial order until we see what's up and can actually gauge what we want based on actual useful information and/or pics.
I'm sticking with my initial order until we see what's up and can actually gauge what we want based on actual useful information and/or pics.Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392261)
Posted by gothsaurus on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:18pm EDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:18pm EDT
If I were MP, and Takara released nearly the identical exclusive... I'd switch it TOOOOooooo.....
HAULER.
Odd that we're suddenly getting THREE new retool/redecos of this toy. Will that set a record for this size class?
That will be six. Trying to think if anyone else in the "classics" lines has gotten that many in this size class.
HAULER.
Odd that we're suddenly getting THREE new retool/redecos of this toy. Will that set a record for this size class?
That will be six. Trying to think if anyone else in the "classics" lines has gotten that many in this size class.Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392267)
Posted by Mkall on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:29pm EDT
I think Classics Prime may still hold the record. Classics, Henkei, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime, Crystal Convoy, Shattered Glass Prime and Black Convoy (not counting the cancelled Autobot Black Convoy)
Posted by Mkall on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:29pm EDT
gothsaurus wrote:If I were MP, and Takara released nearly the identical exclusive... I'd switch it TOOOOooooo.....
HAULER.
Odd that we're suddenly getting THREE new retool/redecos of this toy. Will that set a record for this size class?
I think Classics Prime may still hold the record. Classics, Henkei, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime, Crystal Convoy, Shattered Glass Prime and Black Convoy (not counting the cancelled Autobot Black Convoy)
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392269)
Posted by gothsaurus on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:35pm EDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:35pm EDT
I guess I need to cheer more for Hauler then. That would tie Prime!
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392271)
Posted by Flux Convoy on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:49pm EDT
I'd be right there with you. I want Hauler pretty badly. Seems like it would be a perfect figure for the club to do. Not only has he had a profile in the club magazine but he's in the last storyline as a background bot. Specifically issues 41 and 42. I'd happily pay out for him.
Posted by Flux Convoy on June 21st, 2012 @ 12:49pm EDT
gothsaurus wrote:I guess I need to cheer more for Hauler then. That would tie Prime!
I'd be right there with you. I want Hauler pretty badly. Seems like it would be a perfect figure for the club to do. Not only has he had a profile in the club magazine but he's in the last storyline as a background bot. Specifically issues 41 and 42. I'd happily pay out for him.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392361)
Posted by Seibertron on June 21st, 2012 @ 4:48pm EDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 21st, 2012 @ 4:48pm EDT
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392367)
Posted by DMSL on June 21st, 2012 @ 5:00pm EDT
Posted by DMSL on June 21st, 2012 @ 5:00pm EDT
Wow didn't know Takara would pull a Hasbro and release an "exclusive" repainted figure in the main line. It is a huge price difference as well. I do like the extra Targetmaster but for that huge of a price gap i am not sure. I'll wait till i see pictures and then i will decide whether i change my pre-order or not.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392371)
Posted by Kibble on June 21st, 2012 @ 5:08pm EDT
Posted by Kibble on June 21st, 2012 @ 5:08pm EDT
Although is this a huge price difference over there? It's not costing them $140 if they order it directly...
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392389)
Posted by Stormrider on June 21st, 2012 @ 6:08pm EDT
Seven. Don't forget Asia Hasbro is releasing a blue version as Hotspot.
It's about 2000 yen difference ($25) and it is more difficult to obtain the MP version. You have to buy the MP magazine, cut out the coupon and then mail it in with 6000 Yen. I agree with everyone else, this seems very strange for Takara to do.
Posted by Stormrider on June 21st, 2012 @ 6:08pm EDT
gothsaurus wrote:If I were MP, and Takara released nearly the identical exclusive... I'd switch it TOOOOooooo.....
HAULER.
Odd that we're suddenly getting THREE new retool/redecos of this toy. Will that set a record for this size class?
Seven. Don't forget Asia Hasbro is releasing a blue version as Hotspot.
Kibble wrote:Although is this a huge price difference over there? It's not costing them $140 if they order it directly...
It's about 2000 yen difference ($25) and it is more difficult to obtain the MP version. You have to buy the MP magazine, cut out the coupon and then mail it in with 6000 Yen. I agree with everyone else, this seems very strange for Takara to do.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392428)
Posted by Kibble on June 21st, 2012 @ 9:11pm EDT
I agree it's still strange, but if the difference was only $25 I'd probably opt for the fancier exclusive with extra buddies.
Posted by Kibble on June 21st, 2012 @ 9:11pm EDT
Stormrider wrote:Kibble wrote:Although is this a huge price difference over there? It's not costing them $140 if they order it directly...
It's about 2000 yen difference ($25) and it is more difficult to obtain the MP version. You have to buy the MP magazine, cut out the coupon and then mail it in with 6000 Yen. I agree with everyone else, this seems very strange for Takara to do.
I agree it's still strange, but if the difference was only $25 I'd probably opt for the fancier exclusive with extra buddies.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392446)
Posted by quickmixed on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:20pm EDT
Posted by quickmixed on June 21st, 2012 @ 10:20pm EDT
I'm holding on to my preorder. I display my exclusive figs seperately so I need an exclusive Artfire to go with my exclusive Stepper. I was willing to pay the initial price 2 months ago and still am.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1392540)
Posted by Arlekkin on June 22nd, 2012 @ 2:59am EDT
Posted by Arlekkin on June 22nd, 2012 @ 2:59am EDT
Am I the only one smelling Arms Micron here?
Maybe the new takara version will have the panels on the back painted red instead of white and maybe finally we will get the ladder instead of the water gun/crane.
Maybe the new takara version will have the panels on the back painted red instead of white and maybe finally we will get the ladder instead of the water gun/crane.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393721)
Posted by El Duque on June 25th, 2012 @ 9:46am EDT
Posted by El Duque on June 25th, 2012 @ 9:46am EDT
In our second piece of Artfire news for the day, it sounds like UN-32 Artfire may not be happening.
If you thought Takara offering a non-exclusive version of Artifre was too good too be true you may have been right! Last week pre-orders started appearing at on-line retailers for UN-32 Artfire, which was followed by news of what differences we could expect between the Takara and Million Publishing versions. This all seemed a bit odd since a Takara general release would step on the toes of the Million Publishing exclusive.
Now word is reaching us that UN-32 Artfire may not exist. Takara has denied the release via their twitter account, and Allspark member (and e-Hobby employee) Hydra had this to say:
It sounds like the Million Publishing exclusive Artfire may be the only game in town.
If you thought Takara offering a non-exclusive version of Artifre was too good too be true you may have been right! Last week pre-orders started appearing at on-line retailers for UN-32 Artfire, which was followed by news of what differences we could expect between the Takara and Million Publishing versions. This all seemed a bit odd since a Takara general release would step on the toes of the Million Publishing exclusive.
Now word is reaching us that UN-32 Artfire may not exist. Takara has denied the release via their twitter account, and Allspark member (and e-Hobby employee) Hydra had this to say:
I don't know who decided that the supposed regular release of Artfire would only have one Targetmaster, but there is no regular release of Artfire coming. Million posted it on their Twitter account on the 21st, calling it out as a false rumor. I heard the same thing directly from TT staff, so you can safely assume that there is no normal version of Artfire on the way.
-Hydra
It sounds like the Million Publishing exclusive Artfire may be the only game in town.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393723)
Posted by Seibertron on June 25th, 2012 @ 9:51am EDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 25th, 2012 @ 9:51am EDT
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393726)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 25th, 2012 @ 10:03am EDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 25th, 2012 @ 10:03am EDT
Glad to hear this exclusive is still an exclusive.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393729)
Posted by fenrir72 on June 25th, 2012 @ 10:09am EDT
Posted by fenrir72 on June 25th, 2012 @ 10:09am EDT
Was this an April Fools joke? Wait, it ain't April anymore......... 
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393735)
Posted by Stumpybot on June 25th, 2012 @ 10:22am EDT
Posted by Stumpybot on June 25th, 2012 @ 10:22am EDT
somebody done f***ed up this time. Whats that i see in the distance? a tidal wave of pure nerd rage?
this sounded off from day 1 to me. TFsource was the main source of info, the MP exclusivity being so close and the blatantly flipping off the fans that they know had dropped the money. i hope the truth of whats gone on come out, coz a lot of shops were taking preorders for this
this sounded off from day 1 to me. TFsource was the main source of info, the MP exclusivity being so close and the blatantly flipping off the fans that they know had dropped the money. i hope the truth of whats gone on come out, coz a lot of shops were taking preorders for this
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393759)
Posted by Rated X on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:14am EDT
Posted by Rated X on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:14am EDT
Was I the only one that kept my MP pre-order and was happy for everyone else who was getting the united ? If this was backlash from "nerd outrage" I hope CHMS gets in on the action. I dont condone greediness.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393765)
Posted by Mkall on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:23am EDT
Other shops wouldn't've taken orders unless they could get solicitations from somewhere. So the next question is who was giving sellers false information?
Either way I'm glad I kept my Artfire preorder. Though now I'm sad that it looks like I won't be getting a SG Inferno
Posted by Mkall on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:23am EDT
Stumpybot wrote:somebody done f***ed up this time. Whats that i see in the distance? a tidal wave of pure nerd rage?
this sounded off from day 1 to me. TFsource was the main source of info, the MP exclusivity being so close and the blatantly flipping off the fans that they know had dropped the money. i hope the truth of whats gone on come out, coz a lot of shops were taking preorders for this
Other shops wouldn't've taken orders unless they could get solicitations from somewhere. So the next question is who was giving sellers false information?
Either way I'm glad I kept my Artfire preorder. Though now I'm sad that it looks like I won't be getting a SG Inferno
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393766)
Posted by El Duque on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:23am EDT
I don't think it's any sort of backlash. It seemed fishy from the get go that Takara would release the figure when Million Publishing already had their exclusive on the way.
Posted by El Duque on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:23am EDT
Rated X wrote:Was I the only one that kept my MP pre-order and was happy for everyone else who was getting the united ? If this was backlash from "nerd outrage" I hope CHMS gets in on the action. I dont condone greediness.
I don't think it's any sort of backlash. It seemed fishy from the get go that Takara would release the figure when Million Publishing already had their exclusive on the way.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393810)
Posted by xyl360 on June 25th, 2012 @ 12:29pm EDT
Posted by xyl360 on June 25th, 2012 @ 12:29pm EDT
I call BS. The online shops had frickin' model numbers!!!
'UN-32' didn't just come out of nowhere, it came from Takara, period. I'm betting they did plan on a retail release, but Million complained to Takara (due to the horrendous price difference) that it would kill sales/value of the 'exclusive' they thought they had, so Takara pulled the plug on UN-32 at the last minute to please them.
'UN-32' didn't just come out of nowhere, it came from Takara, period. I'm betting they did plan on a retail release, but Million complained to Takara (due to the horrendous price difference) that it would kill sales/value of the 'exclusive' they thought they had, so Takara pulled the plug on UN-32 at the last minute to please them.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393827)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on June 25th, 2012 @ 1:02pm EDT
Actually, UN-32 can be easily deduced as the next one after UN-31 Beast Megatron as such number always follow simple logic. That doesn't take away the fact I'd like to know what's going on, and who was messing with everyone's minds.
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on June 25th, 2012 @ 1:02pm EDT
xyl360 wrote:I call BS. The online shops had frickin' model numbers!!!
'UN-32' didn't just come out of nowhere, it came from Takara, period. I'm betting they did plan on a retail release, but Million complained to Takara (due to the horrendous price difference) that it would kill sales/value of the 'exclusive' they thought they had, so Takara pulled the plug on UN-32 at the last minute to please them.
Actually, UN-32 can be easily deduced as the next one after UN-31 Beast Megatron as such number always follow simple logic. That doesn't take away the fact I'd like to know what's going on, and who was messing with everyone's minds.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393836)
Posted by xyl360 on June 25th, 2012 @ 1:17pm EDT
True, but it's still an assumption by all of the online retailers if that's the case. How were they to know (or assume) that it was UN-32? Maybe there was something else in the same wave/coming out first which would have had UN-32 as a model #?
I'm just saying, it seems really odd to me because everything about it made it seem like they had valid info from Takara.
BBTS still has their preorder up for UN-32 by the way, but I'm sure that will change soon (likely today).
Posted by xyl360 on June 25th, 2012 @ 1:17pm EDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:xyl360 wrote:I call BS. The online shops had frickin' model numbers!!!
'UN-32' didn't just come out of nowhere, it came from Takara, period. I'm betting they did plan on a retail release, but Million complained to Takara (due to the horrendous price difference) that it would kill sales/value of the 'exclusive' they thought they had, so Takara pulled the plug on UN-32 at the last minute to please them.
Actually, UN-32 can be easily deduced as the next one after UN-31 Beast Megatron as such number always follow simple logic. That doesn't take away the fact I'd like to know what's going on, and who was messing with everyone's minds.
True, but it's still an assumption by all of the online retailers if that's the case. How were they to know (or assume) that it was UN-32? Maybe there was something else in the same wave/coming out first which would have had UN-32 as a model #?
I'm just saying, it seems really odd to me because everything about it made it seem like they had valid info from Takara.
BBTS still has their preorder up for UN-32 by the way, but I'm sure that will change soon (likely today).
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393874)
Posted by zodconvoy on June 25th, 2012 @ 2:27pm EDT
I kept mine but was glad to see a cheaper option available. It never made sense though. A Stepper/Ricochet maybe since it's been a year and there's different things they could do to change up the Jazz mold (like using the second head that has thus far only been used at Botcon) but Artfire can't be different enough and still satisfactorily be Artfire in both cases. Not while coming out at the same time.
Posted by zodconvoy on June 25th, 2012 @ 2:27pm EDT
Rated X wrote:Was I the only one that kept my MP pre-order and was happy for everyone else who was getting the united ?
I kept mine but was glad to see a cheaper option available. It never made sense though. A Stepper/Ricochet maybe since it's been a year and there's different things they could do to change up the Jazz mold (like using the second head that has thus far only been used at Botcon) but Artfire can't be different enough and still satisfactorily be Artfire in both cases. Not while coming out at the same time.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393920)
Posted by Kibble on June 25th, 2012 @ 3:51pm EDT
Posted by Kibble on June 25th, 2012 @ 3:51pm EDT
Hard to say what exactly went down, but I gotta assume it was more than pure BS if someone was feeding TFcurse specifics that they were in turn passing along. I can't imagine they woulda been putting out random nonsense from an unreliable source. Wonder how many canceled their pre-price increase preorders, though, in favor of this one that's apparently not to be.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1393943)
Posted by gothsaurus on June 25th, 2012 @ 4:38pm EDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 25th, 2012 @ 4:38pm EDT
Again, here's hoping it's an Encore release of the G1. That dude is WAY overdue. Glad I didn't cancel my preorder... and honestly, I really do enjoy pouring over those books in spite of my lack of knowledge of the Japanese language. (outside of a handful of kana I've been slowly working on.) The behind the scenes and unreleased photos have been groundbreaking. Revelations. Love that stuff.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1394032)
Posted by Stormrider on June 25th, 2012 @ 7:24pm EDT
Posted by Stormrider on June 25th, 2012 @ 7:24pm EDT
This is the second time this month that communication between Takara and their international retailers has not been correct (that we have seen). What's going Takara?
As I mentioned last week, I wonder if UN-32 will be Hotspot.
xyl360 wrote:I call BS. The online shops had frickin' model numbers!!!
'UN-32' didn't just come out of nowhere, it came from Takara, period. I'm betting they did plan on a retail release, but Million complained to Takara (due to the horrendous price difference) that it would kill sales/value of the 'exclusive' they thought they had, so Takara pulled the plug on UN-32 at the last minute to please them.
As I mentioned last week, I wonder if UN-32 will be Hotspot.
Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1394099)
Posted by xyl360 on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:06pm EDT
THAT would make sense, they may have miscommunicated the name/details somewhere down the line since Hotspot would no doubt be using the same exact mold
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Posted by xyl360 on June 25th, 2012 @ 11:06pm EDT
Stormrider wrote:This is the second time this month that communication between Takara and their international retailers has not been correct (that we have seen). What's going Takara?xyl360 wrote:I call BS. The online shops had frickin' model numbers!!!
'UN-32' didn't just come out of nowhere, it came from Takara, period. I'm betting they did plan on a retail release, but Million complained to Takara (due to the horrendous price difference) that it would kill sales/value of the 'exclusive' they thought they had, so Takara pulled the plug on UN-32 at the last minute to please them.
As I mentioned last week, I wonder if UN-32 will be Hotspot.
THAT would make sense, they may have miscommunicated the name/details somewhere down the line since Hotspot would no doubt be using the same exact mold
.Re: TFsource News: Million Publishing vs. UN-32 Artfire Differences (1394239)
Posted by gothsaurus on June 26th, 2012 @ 9:42am EDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 26th, 2012 @ 9:42am EDT
It would be awesome if I didn't have to track down the Asia exclusives outside of my usual Japan haunting grounds. Bring on Hot Spot!
