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The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego

Transformers News: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego

Sunday, October 21st, 2012 11:26AM CDT

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Bulk-springer or is it Springer-head? Either way this upcoming Lego Creator set seems suspiciously similar to the Transformers characters Bulkhead in robot mode and Springer in vehicle modes. Is this a case of Lego ripping off Kre-o that ripped off Lego? Take a look below.

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Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432653)
Posted by Flashwave on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:36am CDT
Aww, this is lEgo's usual pattern, but I think if any of the, coulda pulLed pff transforming brick builds, it woulda been Lego...
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432656)
Posted by CMBcheetor on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:42am CDT
I'd definitely get this over any Kre-o set, you just can't beat LEGO-thats why every block product is made to be compatible with them. I always hoped Hasbro would partner up with LEGO... but they like making their own money. Just borrow some Kre-o :BOT: panels and build Springer
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432659)
Posted by That Bot on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:54am CDT
I wouldn't really consider Kre-O a ripoff of LEGO. It's in the same vein as Mega Bloks and K'Nex's building blocks. It's basically LEGO, but they get different licenses and have some different parts. On the other hand, this is definitely a suspicious-looking LEGO set.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432660)
Posted by Tresob on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:56am CDT
Although I do prefer the quality of Lego bricks over Kre-o pieces, I have a little hint for Lego's marketing team:

No Kreons, no sale.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432663)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:14pm CDT
from the looks of it it doesnt transform so im out. Yeah im sure the lego ones will be better but if i had to chose id go kreo since they include actual transformer heads. But until either line make the "figures" transform i could care less.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432664)
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:23pm CDT
I'm a collector of LEGO and as is probably obvious these don't transform. The LEGO Creator line includes a bunch of pieces and instructions to build three models from them (similar to Kre-O), the emphasis from the Creator toyline is creativity and classic building techniques. Interesting how Energon Bulkhead was a Springer homage and now LEGO makes this. Personally I think LEGO is tipping their hat to Hasbro or something. Also this set will surely have rubber tires unlike some of the Kre-O sets
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432667)
Posted by noctorro on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:30pm CDT
L-A-M-E

I thought they would make Transformers Lego's right after the Slizer figure line.
Which lateron became Robo Riders, and then Bionicle and now Hero Factory.

Slizers did kind of transform to fit their space ships AND THEY DIDN'T NEED RE ASSEMBLY TO TRANSFORM. This what they're doing now is kind of silly.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432668)
Posted by craggy on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:31pm CDT
if LEGO is intentionally ripping of Kreo stuff, I'm going to guess that they didn't see how well those sets sold before doing it.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432670)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:46pm CDT
Lego ripping off Kre-O is like the pot calling the kettle black, despite the basic building brick design being in Public Domain.

Seriously though, so it has a few similarities, and already you guys are yelling rip-off? I never heard you guys complain about certain 3rd Party toys.... >:oP
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432671)
Posted by Grimlock64 on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:51pm CDT
Crap, I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for this. This intrigues me.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432675)
Posted by That Bot on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:57pm CDT
noctorro wrote:L-A-M-E

I thought they would make Transformers Lego's right after the Slizer figure line.
Which lateron became Robo Riders, and then Bionicle and now Hero Factory.

Slizers did kind of transform to fit their space ships AND THEY DIDN'T NEED RE ASSEMBLY TO TRANSFORM. This what they're doing now is kind of silly.

The Throwbots folded in half and tucked their arms away. Not much of a transformation. The...Vahki? Whatever their names were, the drones from Bionicle 2004, they had a bit more transformation. They turned from biped to quadruped by bending backwards and flipping their arms and heads around. LEGO has never been much for engineering actual transformations, since the whole point of LEGO is to build and rebuild in different ways. That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432678)
Posted by Nyancatron on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:08pm CDT
KreO, Lego... whatever.

When is a building block company going to do them so they don't look like ass?
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432680)
Posted by f-primus-unicron on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:22pm CDT
hey people why so many complains?
if lego wants to make Kre-o like sets, let them do it, since as you said, kre-o is itself a rippof of lego
and about the quality of lego or kre-o
i think they are similar, i had some years ago some lego parts that broke just 2 montsh after, and i havent hear anything bad about kre-o.
and whata bout the kreons? just because they are g1? thats it?
c'mon if you really whant a transformable robot the build it(is possible in both, lego and kreo)
and if you dont wanna to spend your time building it, just buy a regular transformer figure and thats it
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432682)
Posted by Super Megatron on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:32pm CDT
Ah, the circle of life; the great rip-off circle of Kre-o/Lego-Lego/Kre-o-Transformers/Diaclone is now complete!
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432683)
Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:42pm CDT
That Bot wrote: That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.


Hey, if you want a brickformer, just hit up ebay for some G1 stuff.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432689)
Posted by r3devi7 on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:11pm CDT
Not the first Lego Creator robot set... doubt its the last either. Will buy this one if I happen to see it. The only reason I have bought any Kreo stuff is the Kreons, must have the 3 seekers in everyway possible lol The sets themselves are pretty lame if following the normal instructions. Plenty of tuts out there to make Starscream, Megs, and OP sets better.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432692)
Posted by dragons on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:18pm CDT
looks like this but better bot mode
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Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432696)
Posted by That Bot on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:22pm CDT
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:
That Bot wrote: That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.


Hey, if you want a brickformer, just hit up ebay for some G1 stuff.

I was waiting for that. :P
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432701)
Posted by Mindmaster on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:52pm CDT
Hilarious. Friggin' hilarious.

But I'm not a fan of building blocks, so neither Lego or Kre-O is going to get any money from me.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432711)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 21st, 2012 @ 3:23pm CDT
Sadly better than Hasbro's Springer's, that's for sure.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432716)
Posted by XDMan on October 21st, 2012 @ 3:37pm CDT
There is also Diablock, Built to Rule and another TF themed building set (which is canceled).
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432720)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on October 21st, 2012 @ 3:52pm CDT
XDMan wrote:There is also Diablock, Built to Rule and another TF themed building set (which is canceled).


You must be talking about Block Town, with redecos of the Skyscorchers and Axelerators.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432734)
Posted by Bowspearer on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:06pm CDT
LEGO is in no way ripping of Kreo here. What people forget is that LEGO have a history of doing transforming robots (the first one which comes to mind is a thechnics transforming truck set [8852]) since at least the 1989.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432737)
Posted by RAcast on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:11pm CDT
Bowspearer wrote:LEGO is in no way ripping of Kreo here. What people forget is that LEGO have a history of doing transforming robots (the first one which comes to mind is a thechnics transforming truck set [8852]) since at least the 1989.

We know, and nobody is questioning that.

The entire point of this thread is not that Lego has made a set like this, but that it's GREEN.

It bears far more than a passing resemblance to Springer, lol.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432740)
Posted by Bowspearer on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:35pm CDT
RAcast wrote:
Bowspearer wrote:LEGO is in no way ripping of Kreo here. What people forget is that LEGO have a history of doing transforming robots (the first one which comes to mind is a thechnics transforming truck set [8852]) since at least the 1989.

We know, and nobody is questioning that.

The entire point of this thread is not that Lego has made a set like this, but that it's GREEN.

It bears far more than a passing resemblance to Springer, lol.


That's debateable. I think the reason people are jumping to that conclusion is because it's green and has 3 modes, including a helecopter. However the truck mode is radically different from Springer's ground mode and the robot mode is also vastly different from Springer's in terms of colours and look.

I'd agree that you could definitely say that it's "inspired" by Springer, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say it's a rip off.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432741)
Posted by craggy on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:40pm CDT
I do wonder why there's a news article about a transforming robot toy that isn't made by Hasbro on the front page though.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432749)
Posted by El Duque on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:02pm CDT
The truck mode isn't all that Springer-ish, but it is Bulkhead-ish as is the robot mode. The whole set seems to be a mish mash of the two characters.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432751)
Posted by Noideaforaname on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:26pm CDT
Ehh, these are really thin similarities. The only thing really Bulkhead-ish is the underbite/mouthplate, which is really common in mechas; the pickup truck isn't at all anything Bulkhead ever turned into. The green is just military green, which is a very common choice among vehicles and mechas as it could conceivably be used by most of them.
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Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:43pm CDT
I was trying to see the jeep mode as Hound or Brawn, but that's just grasping at straws.

But in addition to the slight bot-mode resemblance to Animated/Prime Bulkhead, I can't help but be reminded that Energon Bulkhead (first use of the name?), was called Sprang in Superlink since he was a Springer homage. That part must be a coincidence, but it's a weird one.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432756)
Posted by craggy on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:53pm CDT
and in the Prime cartoon Bulkhead is a former-Wrecker. I think they might be twins separated by universes.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432765)
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 21st, 2012 @ 9:06pm CDT
the only way any of the companies could ever make a proper transforming figure to vehicle set would make it an expensive 2000+ piece technic set for it to look decent
or go with the bionicle
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432767)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 21st, 2012 @ 9:44pm CDT
Until someone makes one that transforms like a transformer, I'm not going to care. So far, the only one I've seen do that is one big K'nex set, released back around the same time as Beast Machines.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432771)
Posted by f-primus-unicron on October 21st, 2012 @ 9:59pm CDT
there are a lot of fan-made instructions for lego and kreo of how to amke a transforming figure using them
so i still dont get all this complaining
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432772)
Posted by TulioDude on October 21st, 2012 @ 10:09pm CDT
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:They've been doing those sets with enough pieces to make three different things for a while now. Giant robots aren't a new thing either. That is remarkably similar to Springer, though.

This.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432773)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 21st, 2012 @ 10:15pm CDT
I see no rip off.

After so many years, it was legal to be a brick maker, like Lego. (I forget what year, but it was rather recent.)

Oxford (the company that produces Kre-O for Hasbro, Megablox for Rose Art/Wal-Mart) hasn't ripped anyone off.

Lego making kits that create a vehicle mode and robot mode is not a rip off either. Heck, if it transforms, they're one step ahead of Hasbro.

All's fair game at this point. *shrugs* Now...if Lego had molded an Optimus or Bumblebee head, then you'd have something.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432799)
Posted by Bowspearer on October 22nd, 2012 @ 1:43am CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Ehh, these are really thin similarities. The only thing really Bulkhead-ish is the underbite/mouthplate, which is really common in mechas; the pickup truck isn't at all anything Bulkhead ever turned into. The green is just military green, which is a very common choice among vehicles and mechas as it could conceivably be used by most of them.


And I think that's the thing. There's often one big rey area between originality and ripping off which is inspiration and in a huge chunk of that is going to be coincidence.

How much of this is inpsired by the same things that inspired Bulkhead and Springer? How much of this is going to be common to other things that we as Transformers fans have just come to strongly associate with certain things? Those are 2 big questions which need to be answered in the process of answering the question about the originality of this LEGO set.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432802)
Posted by noctorro on October 22nd, 2012 @ 2:00am CDT
That Bot wrote:
noctorro wrote:L-A-M-E

I thought they would make Transformers Lego's right after the Slizer figure line.
Which lateron became Robo Riders, and then Bionicle and now Hero Factory.

Slizers did kind of transform to fit their space ships AND THEY DIDN'T NEED RE ASSEMBLY TO TRANSFORM. This what they're doing now is kind of silly.

The Throwbots folded in half and tucked their arms away. Not much of a transformation. The...Vahki? Whatever their names were, the drones from Bionicle 2004, they had a bit more transformation. They turned from biped to quadruped by bending backwards and flipping their arms and heads around. LEGO has never been much for engineering actual transformations, since the whole point of LEGO is to build and rebuild in different ways. That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.



Yessss, Throwbots, that's what they were called elsewhere. And the Vahki were kind of cool. But those limbs are great to make transformation movement. The other bricks can be complete doors and windows. I don't see a problem with Lego trying that first.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432806)
Posted by robotmel on October 22nd, 2012 @ 2:06am CDT
El Duque wrote:Bulk-springer or is it Springer-head? Either way this upcoming Lego Creator set seems suspiciously similar to the Transformers characters Bulkhead in robot mode and Springer in vehicle modes. Is this a case of Lego ripping off Kre-o that ripped off Lego? Take a look below.

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:D
Great to see 3rd Party producers of a potential Transformers homage getting front paged once again!

Thats number 2!! ;)
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432863)
Posted by Screamfleet on October 22nd, 2012 @ 9:04am CDT
Lego actually does intentional homages sometimes. I dont know if this is the case. It's hard to call it coincidental though. I feel like they made it green, because red or blue might look too much like optimus. Green is a decent color to go with. We all see springer, but honestly, he's a much more obscure character these days. Still Lego did make a minifigure that resembles JEM, and black knight figure with a red boar symbol on its shield, the same as the one that monty python black knight had on his chest. In this case, I bet the designer isn't aware of what they did.
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Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 22nd, 2012 @ 11:50am CDT
Screamfleet wrote:In this case, I bet the designer isn't aware of what they did.


I don't know about that. There is no way the people who design the lego sets aren't massive nerds.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1432926)
Posted by That Bot on October 22nd, 2012 @ 2:02pm CDT
Doesn't mean they're Transformers fans.
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Posted by Screamfleet on October 22nd, 2012 @ 3:32pm CDT
Exactly. I have friends who are huge nerds. They don't all know who Springer is. Geez, some of them probably couldn't tell you which symbol is autobot or decepticon. Though they could tell you what year Frodo's 111th birthday was and stuff like that.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1433100)
Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 23rd, 2012 @ 10:59am CDT
That Bot wrote:Doesn't mean they're Transformers fans.


You only need one of them to be, though.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1433139)
Posted by Grimlock Shakur on October 23rd, 2012 @ 2:43pm CDT
this is funny, finally Lego is trying to get a piece of the big a** pie, Lego should of done the Kre-o stuff from the get go! but I guess it was a risk they were not willing to make... I think the Lego stuff is just built better, don't get me wrong I have some of the Kre-o's but mostly it was just to get the freakin Kreons! haha now we know what Kre-o stands for! KO! for knocking off Lego in a way... :lol:
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1434115)
Posted by Scaleface on October 26th, 2012 @ 8:23am CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:from the looks of it it doesnt transform so im out. Yeah im sure the lego ones will be better but if i had to chose id go kreo since they include actual transformer heads. But until either line make the "figures" transform i could care less.


The company making transforming Lego Transformers is Kazi. They seem to be the only one who figured people only want to assemble them once. They made about a dozen new and "homage" characters... and they can transform!

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Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1434381)
Posted by Anonymous on October 27th, 2012 @ 2:07am CDT
Scaleface wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:from the looks of it it doesnt transform so im out. Yeah im sure the lego ones will be better but if i had to chose id go kreo since they include actual transformer heads. But until either line make the "figures" transform i could care less.


The company making transforming Lego Transformers is Kazi. They seem to be the only one who figured people only want to assemble them once. They made about a dozen new and "homage" characters... and they can transform!

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Apart from Optimus, the robot modes of all the others look like they were put together by Stephen Hawking. I do however take your point about building a set piece once then being able to transform it properly.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1434407)
Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 27th, 2012 @ 4:21am CDT
How can you possibly talk crap about DESTROY FOEMAN?!
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1434410)
Posted by Anonymous on October 27th, 2012 @ 4:27am CDT
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:How can you possibly talk crap about DESTROY FOEMAN?!


Please forgive me, i was wrong to question the awesomeness that is Foeman #-o
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1434521)
Posted by Noideaforaname on October 27th, 2012 @ 1:06pm CDT
Eh, if you want transforming toys get the mainline figures. The whole appeal with the brick-built toys is the actual building; that's why Lego's Creationary game and Creator series are popular while "true" transforming sets are practically non-existent.
Re: The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego (1434535)
Posted by That Bot on October 27th, 2012 @ 2:32pm CDT
I disagree. I think engineering a building set that can convert between two (or more) forms without rebuilding it is pretty cool. Back when I was on the Bionicle forums, there was an entire building contest based on that idea. If the idea ever made it to retail, they could include instructions for 2 or 3 different transforming models to keep with the "building" theme of Lego.

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