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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 9th, 2017 @ 2:53pm CST
Topspin: great transformation, and his jet mode works, considering what it was designed as. Very awesome figure and I want a Twintwist for him, like all you guys.
Kup: not bad. he looks better in the review, but I'm still thinking he will be the weak one from this wave that I get (I think the only one I'm not getting from the wave is Quake)
Roadburn: nice new head, I want throttlebots, so this will do.
Quake: awesome paint and head for those getting him!
Perceptor: also really good looking and another I can't wait for. Love the adjustable microscope!
Broadside: I really hope Chefatron's bad at that review, because that jet mode is atrocious. The carrier and robot modes look pretty awesome though!
Sky Shadow: simple, yet awesome looking. I wonder if he and Overlord can swap, like Sky Shadow's top can have Overlord pants. Either way, I'm getting both. Come on leader Deathsaurus!
Can't wait for the titan masters. I love that little line! Wave 3 they really hit their stride
Posted by RAR on January 9th, 2017 @ 2:56pm CST
Here are some examples :
http://www.tfu.info/1990/Decepticon/Gut ... uncher.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1990/Decepticon/Spa ... ceshot.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/Rou ... hstuff.htm
The way they have base modes and the interaction with the mini-vehicles just reminded me of the current toys. As well as how Krok has gained the altmode from his partner Gatoraider.
This line or a future one could do very similar things with something like http://www.tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/Sky ... hopper.htm
We have already had Micromaster/Targetmasters in Generations why not Micromaster Headmasters (Titanmasters) too ?
Using Skyhopper as an example you could have a voyager Helicopter with a brand new robot mode which opens up into base mode still (compatible with the current line) and the Micromaster base commander figure that interacts with it but as well as being a jet and mini-robot it could also be a head.
Just a thought anyway... then using the idea you can borrow some ideas from the Micromaster and Actionmaster lines and give us characters like Countdown. Which would make for a very interesting leader concept perhaps.
The other thing is that some characters had more than one companion so you could weave that idea in with the Micromaster combiner concept too.
It might work best for Voyager figures though as Micromasters are a tiny bit bigger than Titanmasters so might be a bit big to make heads for Deluxes.
I would also suggest that they keep the hole in the foot going forward for all future tiny figures though.
The other observation would be how much Tricerashot is like a Actionmaster Companion figure too so more like him might be fun to find another place for too - even if it is in RID-17 instead of a Generations line.
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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Broadside: I really hope Chefatron's bad at that review, because that jet mode is atrocious. The carrier and robot modes look pretty awesome though!
Sky Shadow: simple, yet awesome looking. I wonder if he and Overlord can swap, like Sky Shadow's top can have Overlord pants. Either way, I'm getting both.
I think it maybe possible to alter the Transformation for the jet a bit and I plan to pop the tail plains off it and swap them to the proper way around if/when I get him. But the renders do look like that.
I wondered the same thing about any possible future Thunderwing/Diatlas/Overlord version too. I also notice some supremely cool possibly fan mode potential for the base mode to become a pretty mean looking H-Tank with a few minor changes to the parts transformation - the result would look very Animated Shockwave/Armada Megatron like.
I wonder if that is like that as it's the seed of the Diatlas vehicle mode some people think it also has.
Posted by william-james88 on January 9th, 2017 @ 3:05pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Broadside: I really hope Chefatron's bad at that review, because that jet mode is atrocious. The carrier and robot modes look pretty awesome though!
I have some bad news, I was looking at 3d renders and everything we have seen of broadside and that is indeed his jet mode. It makes no sense, especially since the stabalizers are facing the wrong way. Depending on how the hinges work, I will try to remove and reatach them in a way that makes more sense. What puzzles me to no end are those fake kibble details on the robot shoulders. They dont serve any purpose in the aircraft carrier mode and add ugliness and confusion to the airplane mode. They could have easily been made of actual jet kibble instead, adding to the jet without removing anything to the robot.
Sky Shadow: simple, yet awesome looking. I wonder if he and Overlord can swap, like Sky Shadow's top can have Overlord pants. Either way, I'm getting both. Come on leader Deathsaurus!
Thats very smart, I had not thought of that!
And yes, I too am so damn eager for Deathsaurus. I just love Dragon Formers!
RAR wrote:The other observation would be how much Tricerashot is like a Actionmaster Companion figure too so more like him might be fun to find another place for too - even if it is in RID-17 instead of a Generations line.
That is extreamly astute! I had not thought of that but it fits perfectly. And maybe thats why Hasbro didnt care to repeat the same gimick in both lines. I do chuckle at the idea of action masters having the alt modes of their companion. That would mean Blaster turns into a jetpack
Posted by bodrock on January 9th, 2017 @ 3:06pm CST
They were loaded up and after wading through the piles and seeing the trees rather than the forest, the toys seemed to part like the sea to reveal two straggler Legends figures from this wave - Kickback & Bumblee (I woulda gotten Roadburn!). I reached for them when I heard a voice...!
Some young lady tried to get me to return some items without a receipt but with my ID. I ran...
...into a short line and exited, having bought Bumblee.
Scale-wise, he's perfect! I just wish he was a VW bug, I guess....but I don't $65-want that.
(That was not a pleasant shopping experience, Walmart.).
Posted by william-james88 on January 9th, 2017 @ 3:12pm CST
bodrock wrote: (I woulda gotten Roadburn!)
Congrats on the purchase but just to let you know, Roadburn wont be coming out for 2 months or so domestically, he is part of the next wave.
Posted by RAR on January 9th, 2017 @ 3:18pm CST
william-james88 wrote: I do chuckle at the idea of action masters having the alt modes of their companion. That would mean Blaster turns into a jetpack
A jetpack alt mode isn't so crazy - how many times did that happen in the 2000's after all (usually to Optimus) ? so why not a Blaster with a Jetpack mode - might be a way to make a deluxe blaster he could have some other mode too like a Satellite phone a space jet form too.
But running with the idea - how about Bumblebee as a Helicopter decorated in the colours of an actual Bumblebee insect.
Again their is some made sense to that as he also had a Targetmaster companion who was a Helicopter too (and so did Hotshot with Jolt).
Also Rescue Bots has had Bumblebee as a Motorcycle, Racing Car and Dinosaur too... so why not make him an actual flying bumblebee.
But perhaps there is a seed of another idea in there for future legends class toys to have a actionmaster backpack style 3rd mode - sort of like how Combiner Wars Legends also do stuff like become chest plates and guns and the like - why not a backpack ?
( I guess Wreck Gar sort of already does that to Sky Reign)
Posted by bodrock on January 9th, 2017 @ 3:19pm CST
william-james88 wrote:bodrock wrote: (I woulda gotten Roadburn!)
Congrats on the purchase but just to let you know, Roadburn wont be coming out for 2 months or so domestically, he is part of the next wave.
That explains it then! Thanks wj88!
The young lady had offered to buy me something (Kickback) for getting involved, but I've known way too many cons to play along. And I would've gotten him for the kids when I remembered how spoiled they are.
Posted by Kurona on January 9th, 2017 @ 3:32pm CST
I'm not sure how well it would work in execution though; there are some whose robot modes have kibble indicating an alt-mode completely different from their partners (Krok, for instance, had jet-mode kibble despite his partner being an alligator). Arguably this isn't much of a problem because it only applies to some of them, and for a lot of them it's very vague and dubious what that kibble represents - and their partners are more memorable than a car part that happens to be on their chest, so easy pass.
The real problem comes when the partner looked like... uh...
... yyyyyeah, not the most flattering of alt-modes, is it?
Still, it's working out for Krok; and the idea of merging different aspects of a character's history into one unit has always been fun for me. A sort of compartmentalisation of their concepts and attributes.
So as long as it works, I'm all for it. Bring on a Gutcruncher that transforms into a huge badass jet that eats seekers for breakfast!
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 9th, 2017 @ 3:36pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And of course, the stock photos are just retouched from Hardhead's and Skullsmasher's:
btw Look closely at the amount of steps between the two releases
I don't believe it's photoshopped. Rather, they simply didn't bother to change the pose. They probably just took the Hardhead toy in CAD, recolored it, and then switched the head. Pose already done. Same with Krok.
Posted by WreckerJack on January 9th, 2017 @ 4:46pm CST
Also I am so going to leave him on my desk in mircoscope mode to fake people out.
Posted by Kurona on January 9th, 2017 @ 4:54pm CST
WreckerJack wrote:I gotta have Percy. I have been wanting a Perceptor for a long time and this one looks really great. I kinda like that he's a little skinny because that reminds me of how he looks in the comics.
Also I am so going to leave him on my desk in mircoscope mode to fake people out.
He's actually specifically designed after the appearance he's had in IDW since AHM all the way up to MTMTE; note the shape of the gun and the angled elbows for instance.
Posted by RAR on January 9th, 2017 @ 6:06pm CST
Posted by Powermaster Swag on January 9th, 2017 @ 6:53pm CST
Posted by KVO Prime on January 9th, 2017 @ 7:45pm CST
Topspin: I have Mech Ideas Apex and Geminus. Quota filled.
Kup: I like the alt mode that's more reflective of his G1 self, but I'll wait for Takara if they put out something, otherwise, the generations one with the 3rd party head is enough for me.
Roadburn: I think I'll get the 3rd party combining throttlebots, this is a bad retool of a bad bumblebee anyway.
Quake: Love the head, easy pass though
Krok: would love this but I can tell the QC issues will be same as skullcruncher sadly. I'll get the other one that's the jet.
Sky Shadow: Generations one is good for me. Waiting for Overlord.
Perceptor: LOVE IT. waiting to see if takara will do better deco
Broadside: It's as good as we're going to get at this price point folks. Aircraft carrier mode and bot are great, jet is a sacrifice.
KVO Prime
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 9th, 2017 @ 8:30pm CST
WreckerJack wrote:Also I am so going to leave him on my desk in mircoscope mode to fake people out.
Awesome idea. Rewind goes with me a lot of places since people actually think he is an MP3 and I have the headphones plugged in.
This guy will make an awesome - and disguisable - desk figure
Posted by Cobotron on January 9th, 2017 @ 8:36pm CST
YOu know what's funny? Back when he was a Microman toy, that was the whole point!D-Maximus_Prime wrote:WreckerJack wrote:Also I am so going to leave him on my desk in mircoscope mode to fake people out.
Awesome idea. Rewind goes with me a lot of places since people actually think he is an MP3 and I have the headphones plugged in.
This guy will make an awesome - and disguisable - desk figure
Finally found a few TMs at Walmart today. Had an employee scan them to see if they were legit. He did and said he had just entered them this morning. I went to the register, Ptero rang up but, Overboard did not. the cashier just scanned Ptero again and called it a day.
So weird that this problem is so spread out across the country.
Oh! And all this new stuff that's getting revealed. Love it! I'l have one of each please.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on January 9th, 2017 @ 8:40pm CST
Posted by ScottyP on January 9th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 9th, 2017 @ 10:03pm CST
KVO Prime wrote:
Krok: would love this but I can tell the QC issues will be same as skullcruncher sadly. I'll get the other one that's the jet.
Yeah, you might want to re-think that unless you are willing to wait on one becoming available for a reasonable price. I was thinking along the same lines, but a search on ebay only turned up 1 seller selling the entire TFCC 3.0 set for $600. That was it. Not a single other seller. Nothing on Amazon either.
So, you might want to pick one up just in case you can never get the jet version. The last thing you would want to do is pass him up now, give up on the jet later and then pay secondary market prices for a short packed figure.
Posted by william-james88 on January 9th, 2017 @ 10:24pm CST
Powermaster Swag wrote:I just got Astrotrain, Fangry and Sawback at my Walmart! I got Sawback (Lione) and Fangry for $2.97 because they didn't know the price and it wouldn't scan. I even told them that Toys R Us usually have the Titan Masters for $5-6.99!
Awesome! I always like to see the good guys win, you were honest and it still paid off. Why did they pick that specific price, do you know?
KVO Prime wrote:Broadside: It's as good as we're going to get at this price point folks. Aircraft carrier mode and bot are great, jet is a sacrifice.
KVO Prime
I like a guy who says it like it is. KVO Prime 2020!
Cobotron wrote:I went to the register, Ptero rang up but, Overboard did not. the cashier just scanned Ptero again and called it a day.
Intersting, I thought you were staying away from straight redecos (maybe you werent). Does that mean you have chosen to get all of TR? Do you have the other 2 TMs?
TF-fan kev777 wrote: The last thing you would want to do is pass him up now, give up on the jet later and then pay secondary market prices for a short packed figure.
Smart thinking! Especially with how popular these toys are and the snafus with distribution (on the retail side), if Krok interests you, just get him now and you can always sell him a year later when more collectors decide they want to get into these toys (check how much CW Prime goes for, he's the voyager with the lowest production run).
Posted by Cobotron on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:08am CST
Never was. Krok is a sure win. You had me at black and purple Deceptigator.william-james88 wrote:Intersting, I thought you were staying away from straight redecos (maybe you werent).
Pretty much.Does that mean you have chosen to get all of TR?
Not yet. Things are just rolling in here.Do you have the other 2 TMs?
Posted by Va'al on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:20am CST
Cobotron wrote:Never was. Krok is a sure win. You had me at black and purple Deceptigator.william-james88 wrote:Intersting, I thought you were staying away from straight redecos (maybe you werent).
That's almost selling it to me too, to be honest.
Posted by bodrock on January 10th, 2017 @ 2:42am CST
I think I want a third, honestly.
Posted by Powermaster Swag on January 10th, 2017 @ 7:01am CST
william-james88 wrote:Powermaster Swag wrote:I just got Astrotrain, Fangry and Sawback at my Walmart! I got Sawback (Lione) and Fangry for $2.97 because they didn't know the price and it wouldn't scan. I even told them that Toys R Us usually have the Titan Masters for $5-6.99!
Awesome! I always like to see the good guys win, you were honest and it still paid off. Why did they pick that specific price, do you know?
I really don't know...they went and asked someone how much it should ring up and the guy looked at and said, "Ehh....make it $2.97."
So I got quite a "steal" on those Titan Masters!
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 10th, 2017 @ 7:39am CST
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote: The last thing you would want to do is pass him up now, give up on the jet later and then pay secondary market prices for a short packed figure.
Smart thinking! Especially with how popular these toys are and the snafus with distribution (on the retail side), if Krok interests you, just get him now and you can always sell him a year later when more collectors decide they want to get into these toys (check how much CW Prime goes for, he's the voyager with the lowest production run).
This is the sole reason that I got Getaway from wave 3. Well, that and the $10 Christmas sale prices. Even at a regular $15-$17 price I figure the short packed ones are going to be able to resell for at least their original price in a few years. That being said, Quake and Krok are both instant buys for me. Need more cons and I like both molds. The gator QC issues were nothing a little floor polish didn't take care of on Skullcruncher.
Posted by Allenspurs on January 10th, 2017 @ 2:40pm CST
I just got one for my birthday and I just can't get the fin to stay up,it's just dropping down into the head every time
Luckily I have never had to modify or fix any of my buys so any advice would be much appreciated thanks
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 2:49pm CST
Allenspurs wrote:Has anyone has issues with blurrs Titan master hyperfire, specifically the fin/horn? that pops up when he's in head mode?
I just got one for my birthday and I just can't get the fin to stay up,it's just dropping down into the head every time
Luckily I have never had to modify or fix any of my buys so any advice would be much appreciated thanks
It doesnt stay up well on any version, its a problem most have.
Posted by RAR on January 10th, 2017 @ 3:43pm CST
Posted by Allenspurs on January 10th, 2017 @ 5:15pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:21pm CST
Anyways, I have some issues with Sixshot. The legs have a real hard time pegging together together for a variety of his modes, the tips as well (like when you want to do the spaceship mode). And the tail of Twinferno as well. Also, I had not noticed until now but the dragon heads on Twinferno have an underbite. I would have much preferred they didnt and that the lower jaw didnt go over.
Another thing about Sixshot, that wolfhead blows. It has a tumour growing from under its through and the top has a big hole throughout. Its not appealing.
Anyways, for those still wondering, Sixshot functions as if he wasnt a headmaster at all. If you didnt tell me he was, I would have never known, the gimick hinders nothing at all.
And.... He can (as we all thought) do his 7th mode, the flying wolf!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:35pm CST
Posted by bodrock on January 11th, 2017 @ 3:05am CST
Either way, I'd still say he's a fine update to the G1 original, and awesome in the face. Great articulation, I assume?
I don't plan on buying him, but I'm prone to impulse-buying -- I just bought a 3rd Gnaw, ferchrissakes!
Posted by King Kuuga on January 11th, 2017 @ 7:47am CST
william-james88 wrote:Ok, so I got all of wave 3 I was gonna get except for the legends class which havent shown up yet. The best is triggerhappy, no doubt. But mine has the same gun twice, so I will return it to walmart to see if the other one there has 2 different guns, and will report it to Hasbro so that they get their **** together.
You got a Triggerhappy with two of the same guns? That's interesting, I got a Twinferno with the same problem. (BBTS fixed it for me thankfully) I wonder if it's a widespread packaging error this wave.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on January 11th, 2017 @ 8:10am CST
william-james88 wrote: And the tail of Twinferno as well. Also, I had not noticed until now but the dragon heads on Twinferno have an underbite. I would have much preferred they didnt and that the lower jaw didnt go over.
Twinferno's tail taks some finessing. It will stay together eventually, but it involves a lot of squeezing and minor, minor movements.
As for the underbite, I think it's awesome. It gives those dragon heads so much personality. And when you open their mouths they just look excitedly happy about everything!
Posted by DestronMirage22 on January 11th, 2017 @ 9:19am CST
Posted by o.supreme on January 11th, 2017 @ 9:55am CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 11th, 2017 @ 9:59am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 10:14am CST
King Kuuga wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ok, so I got all of wave 3 I was gonna get except for the legends class which havent shown up yet. The best is triggerhappy, no doubt. But mine has the same gun twice, so I will return it to walmart to see if the other one there has 2 different guns, and will report it to Hasbro so that they get their **** together.
You got a Triggerhappy with two of the same guns? That's interesting, I got a Twinferno with the same problem. (BBTS fixed it for me thankfully) I wonder if it's a widespread packaging error this wave.
It is widespread. I just went to Walmart to exchange it and the new one I got has the same 2 guns again. I will wait for a restock (a month or two) to see if the guns are different then.
DestronMirage22 wrote:Since Sky Shadow is a pretool to Overlord, do you guys think he can still form Overlord's super jet mode?
It seems you can only have the tank under the jet and not behind it. But we'll see, these toys are so articulated with so many moving parts that we can always fashion random fan modes from them.
Posted by bodrock on January 11th, 2017 @ 11:58am CST
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:william-james88 wrote: And the tail of Twinferno as well. Also, I had not noticed until now but the dragon heads on Twinferno have an underbite. I would have much preferred they didnt and that the lower jaw didnt go over.
Twinferno's tail taks some finessing. It will stay together eventually, but it involves a lot of squeezing and minor, minor movements.
As for the underbite, I think it's awesome. It gives those dragon heads so much personality. And when you open their mouths they just look excitedly happy about everything!
Silly TWINFERNO LOL
Posted by o.supreme on January 11th, 2017 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by Kurona on January 11th, 2017 @ 12:19pm CST
Just... in retrospect, this would probably have seemed impossible when CHUG started out and we just got the main stars plus a few other guys from 85. At most we'd get a Hardhead redeco of a Cybertron toy that didn't really work for Hardhead but the alt-mode sort of worked so we sort of accepted it?
To be at the point where we get a full remake of the 1987 Headmasters as one of the main lines in the current franchise is just astonishing to me. It's friggin' cool.
Posted by o.supreme on January 11th, 2017 @ 12:32pm CST
Kurona wrote:A bit out of the blue, but does anyone else find it kind of friggin' awesome that we're at a point where we're not just getting new toys of 1980s Transformers characters, not just of the obscure 1987 guys when most people stopped being interested, but completely accurate ones that are the main focus of the line?
I think its completely awesome. CW was well done enough to bring me out of a 10 year absence of collecting the toys, and TR has made me want to continue. For me however I stuck with the original series until the end of the 4th year (or the 1987 series). Fortress Maximus back then was a highlight, and I couldn't wait to see what came the next year...what would be the "Biggest" TF in 1988...
Sadly there was none, plus the fact that the animated series had come to an end, coupled with the fact that now I was 12 (1988), and in the sixth grade and it all-of-a-sudden wasn't "cool" to play with toys anymore, so that's why basically 1987 was the last year I collected initially. Sure PM Prime and Piranacon looked neat, but there really wasn't any draw in the smaller scale HM's, TM's and even the newer Power Masters were kind of "Meh" to me back then, and Pretenders to me were always lame, I feel even the same way today about Pretenders.
Now however for the TR line, Yes its great. I do take a small bit of exception with Hasbro remaking Skullsmasher into Krok (a reimagining of an Action Master). I still think there are too many good characters from 85-88 to use, we don't have to start throwing Action Masters in the mix quite yet, but its *hopefully* just one. I had a friend in highschool who was faithful up until the end. It was 1991, we were 15 and he was still collecting Action masters and I was like...why? Those things are garbage. I still feel that way, but if anybody out there likes to collect em' more power to you, I just don't think they have the same level of appeal/resonance as earlier characters do.
Posted by Kurona on January 11th, 2017 @ 12:41pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Now however for the TR line, Yes its great. I do take a small bit of exception with Hasbro remaking Skullsmasher into Krok (a reimagining of an Action Master). I still think there are too many good characters from 85-88 to use, we don't have to start throwing Action Masters in the mix quite yet, but its *hopefully* just one. I had a friend in highschool who was faithful up until the end. It was 1991, we were 15 and he was still collecting Action masters and I was like...why? Those things are garbage. I still feel that way, but if anybody out there likes to collect em' more power to you, I just don't think they have the same level of appeal/resonance as earlier characters do.
Krok is pretty much just because he's the leader of the Scavengers in MTMTE imo. Same reason we got Swerve in Thrilling 30; if it wasn't for the comics, he wouldn't be here.
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Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 3:15pm CST
o.supreme wrote:It was 1991, we were 15 and he was still collecting Action masters and I was like...why? Those things are garbage. I still feel that way, but if anybody out there likes to collect em' more power to you, I just don't think they have the same level of appeal/resonance as earlier characters do.
Interesting, I keep hearing that fans hated the action masters and I often see them in worst toy list, simply because of the terrible marketting plan of removing the transforming aspect from transformers. But that doesnt at all translate to secondary market prices. There must still be a big interest in them since they are expensive as all hell on e-bay, way more than complete characters from 85-86. That Action Master Optimus is really expensive.
There must be a big collector demand somewhere.
omega666 wrote:Not a fan of this guy's reviews. I prefer videos to start out in alt mode and transform them into bot mode. I don't care about what they look like right out the package.
I think the logic is that the reviews are there to help if you have difficuly transforming the figure and all these come in robot mode, so thats why he starts that way.
Anyways, thanks DMax for showing me how to plug that hole (it felt so great!).
However, in the end, I am not a huge fan of Sixshot. He is really really G1. Those toys have a charm of their own with their limited articulation, but making them more articulated and leaving it at that becomes off. Like all the modes kinda look like ass and they all looks like the same mix of parts and colours without really looking distinctive. I would have preferred an actual update where certain modes had their own really cool specific detail. It would have been great if they just reworked a few things to make certain elements fit better and look less off, like the forearms in space ship mode for instance.
And that tank mode is super odd in how the legs are transformed. It feels more like a fan mode since there isnt an actual connecting point, if someone can confirm that it would be great!
In the end, my favourite mode would be robot mode, followed by Truck and then spaceship, tank, wolf, gun/submarine. Flying wolf is actually a pretty good mode, better than the actual wolf, since it has a more mecha look (like a Power Ranger zord) rather than being an oddly proportioned wolf.
Posted by o.supreme on January 11th, 2017 @ 3:28pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Interesting, I keep hearing that fans hated the action masters and I often see them in worst toy list, simply because of the terrible marketting plan of removing the transforming aspect from transformers. But that doesnt at all translate to secondary market prices. There must still be a big interest in them since they are expensive as all hell on e-bay, way more than complete characters from 85-86. That Action Master Optimus is really expensive.
There must be a big collector demand somewhere.
Some Action Masters on the secondary market do come with a hefty price, of that there is no debate. However...it stems more form the fact that this was when the line was winding down, and thus nearly not so much product was made. We talk here about tail-enders. AM's were a "line-ender". Not that they were hard to find, but for every 1000 kids who bought Optimus in 1984, there were only... say 100 who bought the same character as an Action Master 6-7 years later, the supply met the demand of the times. I feel sorry for fans of Action Masters today. It is definitely an expensive niche to be involved in.
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 3:37pm CST
o.supreme wrote: It is definitely an expensive niche to be involved in.
And it can be an even more expensive niche than people think when you bring in action master elites. Have you heard of those, they were Europe exclusive, so that just makes things even crazier.
Posted by o.supreme on January 11th, 2017 @ 3:44pm CST
william-james88 wrote:And it can be an even more expensive niche than people think when you bring in action master elites. Have you heard of those, they were Europe exclusive, so that just makes things even crazier.
Oh yeah, there used to be a seller at conventions famous for charging $1000 or more for these individually (My favorite Transformer was bastardized as Omega Spreem, so yeah I'm well aware of them) . He always proudly proclaimed he was happy not to sell them. I wondered to myself always...then why are you even offering them? If you want to keep them, do so...Oh well he probably still has them .
Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2017 @ 5:01pm CST
All thanks to the changeover from Aaron Archer's team to John Warden's team, with all those things you speak of the current team doing now for Titans Return (and all the things they've done for Combiner Wars) being things that the previous team didn't do either because they didn't think they could be done (either well enough or at all) or because they seemingly didn't really want to do those things (i.e. - line-wide G1-based Scramble City-styled Combiners, a new G1 Sky Lynx, line-wide G1-based Headmasters, etc.).Kurona wrote:A bit out of the blue, but does anyone else find it kind of friggin' awesome that we're at a point where we're not just getting new toys of 1980s Transformers characters, not just of the obscure 1987 guys when most people stopped being interested, but completely accurate ones that are the main focus of the line?
Just... in retrospect, this would probably have seemed impossible when CHUG started out and we just got the main stars plus a few other guys from 85. At most we'd get a Hardhead redeco of a Cybertron toy that didn't really work for Hardhead but the alt-mode sort of worked so we sort of accepted it?
To be at the point where we get a full remake of the 1987 Headmasters as one of the main lines in the current franchise is just astonishing to me. It's friggin' cool.